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and the possibility of personal communication with the espresso team, click to sponsor and become part of the community with a ukrainian perspective. congratulations, this is the freedom of life. my name is vlasta lazur. search and rescue work at the site of a rocket attack on a residential building in dnipro has been completed, as of now, 45 people are known to have died. what is happening at the moment? at the scene of the tragedy, a few minutes before the broadcast, we will add a correspondent from the dnipro live in the sbu named the names of six russian soldiers who may be involved in the attack on the dnipro russian edition of your story found these soldiers, two of them agreed to answer the journalists' questions about what these soldiers said, whether they admit their guilt and whether they are afraid of the court. well, almost half of the residents of nine countries of the european union want a quick end to the war, even at the cost of losing their territories to ukraine. these are the results of a
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sociological survey in what does this mean to europe and how does it relate to the help that these countries provide to ukraine about it in svoboda life today search and rescue work at the site of a rocket attack on a residential building in dnipro was completed about it today the state emergency service stated that 39 people were saved, including six children. 45 people died. this is the latest data from the head of the regional administration. six children were among the dead. 79 people were injured. in addition, it is reported that 47 reports of missing persons were received, 18 of which were found to be these people died and four people were found alive, another 20 people are still being searched for, let me remind you that on january 14, a russian missile hit a residential building in dnipro, the military says that it was a kha-22 cruise missile fired from a bomber
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tu-22 from the kursk region of russia the day before, the spokesman of the russian president, dmytro piskov, commenting on the attack on the dnipro, said that the russian military does not attack residential buildings, while there are numerous evidences and testimonies that indicate the opposite , russian troops are destroying civilian infrastructure and killing civilians. well, what is happening right now in dnipro, in particular . at the scene of the tragedy, anastasia plyushova, editor-in-chief, social dnipro, anastasia, joins the broadcast. good evening from my greetings. good evening . around 1:00 p.m., the rescuers completed the search operation, which took almost three days for me. there is no special equipment near the house, the tents of the emergency services were also removed.
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of them, six children actually died in the city's hospitals, currently 28 injured, 10 precincts in serious condition, the condition of the woman who called after a day, we saved, the doctors say that many are improving we have not disappeared, there are still two interests , four of them are children, not identified, 15 circles, five children remained orphans, guardianship is being arranged by relatives, two children are currently under the care of the state, and today they said goodbye to the honored boxing coach mykhailo konovsky in the house, people organized an action to appeal to the international community and ask for more protection of our sky, more anti-aircraft defense, about 30 people came to the rally, they were both residents of this house and just people from the dnipro who came from other areas city ​​of anastasia, please tell us what
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is known about housing or about some kind of shelter for those people who have lost their housing in dnipro . and the social department of the city council is definitely taking care of this. also, a lot of volunteers and realtors have expressed their help, some are ready to provide housing on a free basis at least for three months, some are ready to provide housing for women and children on a permanent, long-term basis free of charge, and the hostels of the city and region are ready to shelter people's families and even open their own the doors are open and there are also three points of inviolability, but they have beds for people who suddenly have no way to come somewhere or come, they can come to these wastelands around the school. they surround us around the house - this is the 130th school, 111 and the assault sports sports complex of the anastasia truck thank you
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very much anastasia plyushkova, editor-in-chief of social dnipro live from dnipro, tuned in to us thank you well, the house hit by a russian missile in dnipro will have to be partially dismantled, the mayor of dnipro boris filatov told about this in a comment on radio svoboda for his in the words of the people who lost their homes, the local authorities offered a dormitory with a philately house, we talked now a day, listen to an excerpt of our conversation, i lived in victory all my life and i know what a victory is, they built a residential complex, well , it is such a very, very large house, but it was built in blocks, one block was built 76 year, second in 73, third, 75, let's say separate houses that were er, well, united in velika, such a house was built in queues, so after we do an instrumental survey, we er, we will be able to er
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finally decide what we are going to do, but already now, a visual inspection, an inspection, we can say that i think that we need to actually dismantle about 240 apartments, i will not waste time to tell about various technical details, because i the mayor has information there, including technical information, and i think that since it is a panel house, he was led and therefore, it will be necessary to dismantle partially, not the whole house , because let's say so in the last entrances. and now there is heat and then we -e we supply and electricity, well, 240 apartments, i will say that it is very, very much. i just talked to people. we are thinking about what to do next, how to help them, including financial aid . well, not the whole building 100%,
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but we will dismantle about 240 apartments, but for this needs to be done once again as an instrumental measure, and with the people who lived in these apartments, who lost their homes and who, let's say , were so lucky to survive and they need somewhere to live, we have now offered a dormitory for people , one of the highest in our city. construction akademika, there are about 500 cities, but you know. i already told your fellow journalists that well, we have such an amazing city, that is, people always unite when there is a big trouble, that's why well, for example, in the first night, uh, we gave shelter in points of non-violence, it's 130-111 the school and the children's club stormed so that you understand, no one came, everyone was sorted out, relatives, friends, acquaintances , everyone left, there was no one in the points, it is not broken, now the people are tightening up, we are
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resettling them, there are some cities, and hm, food and warm clothes, and volunteers bring and just townspeople they bring, well, well, it’s amazing, i ’ve never seen a people’s union like that . watch the full version of our conversation with boris filatov on the youtube channel of radio svoboda. in addition to the consequences of the tragedy in the dnipro, we also talked about the problems with shelter in the city and corruption in the dnipropetrovsk region against the background of the war i will remind you that recently we conducted searches of the regional party leader valentin reznichenko. according to filatov, they cooperate successfully with reznichenko, but the city mayor called the issue of corruption rhetorical. and what about filatov complains about the complete lack of communication on the part of the central authorities, well, i will remind you once again of the interview with filatov, watch it in full on the radio freedom channel on youtube who is directly involved in the attacks on a residential building in the dnipro the security service of ukraine the day before named six
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russian citizens who, according to the sbu, are involved before the missile attack on the dnipro on january 14, the military belongs to the 52nd heavy bomber aviation regiment, it is stationed in the settlement of shaykivka in the kal region, the russian edition, important stories, found those soldiers who in the sbu blames the attack on the dnipro, two of them agreed to answer the journalists' questions, in particular, this is major oleksiy ivanenko, 35 years old, according to the sbu, he is the commander of the aviation plant of the plant of the 52nd heavy bomber aviation regiment, but he told journalists that he has been retired for three years agreed to answer the journalists' questions, this is dmytro golonkov, 44 years old, according to the sbu, he is the chief of staff of the aviation squadron of the aviation group shaykivka olenkov, when asked about the shelling of the dnipro, he began exclaim that crimea said it was russia, and then this is what he said. well, i want to
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ask you, er, that i am an engineer of the 52nd heavy body armor regiment, that's right, you don't even hear it in ukrainian. -ukrainian всё раво нас всё остенное тоже наш что участь от нас вы доставчийте что сейчас 40 человек перевод на днепре in this grief, that's what you want, you personally don't feel sorry for these people who died in the dnieper сейчас 40 человек прод завалили iryna dolinina, a
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journalist of the russian publication important history has already joined our broadcast, iryna good evening good evening, what do you write about your building ? i managed to get in touch with him, he did not answer the calls for three more eh, how do we think that something was wrong with them? when we contacted them one by one, we added comments to the text eh. so not specifically authorized, he even included a threat in response said don't walk in my forest and don't scare the squirrels. here's another man, er, said that he's a schoolboy and preparing for the olympics, and that's why journalists don't care
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about him. it’s not high-quality, trying to imitate a child’s voice, that is, it’s just crooked, in fact, and another one. when we got in touch, he said that, in fact, a check with a disability never served in the army . here's the story, but it's true those contacts, that is, we checked before that . you call a person and make a mistake, then the person does not begin to explain what he is filming, where he is, for example, which olympics he is going to and which olympics we are going to, that is, we offer that we are with them, too. in general , we contacted them and they simply did not give up on them we are talking now, we are just demonstrating on the screen. these are the photos that your
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publications published. i understand that these are all the photos you found and identified them from open sources. they found photos of sami in the networks a-a-m-m with the help of some methods they found a photo that they had already deleted from their accounts and double-checked that it was definitely not, double-checked the data published by the sbu that they belong to that regiment the 52nd, which published the cross of the sbu, er, tell irina, they were generally surprised that those who called them asked about participation in the war, or did they all already have some kind of legend in the form of the olympics, er , and they were already ready to the fact that they can call. that's what feeling you have left after the conversation, but here is such a moment that the sbu published the data and the account was just for a minute, because if
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someone would drop it, either all the servants or anyone familiar then he will call, they will already know, so it's just literally in 5 probably after 10 minutes, when he did not appear and i already had the phone of the first person , i already called him, it was ivanenko, one of those who spoke, and he, in my opinion, did not know, that is, i felt your intonation to his surprise, and - and i am the first person to whom we reported that he was accused of shelling the dnieper, and then unfortunately, i was just thinking, why did we get the answers because these people either contacted each other if they discussed something or someone told them that there was already a second conversation, only the first one was mine i didn't know the first look - that's it now , we're showing him his photos, and he told you that he's been retired for three years. what do you think, he's sincere, he was telling the truth because the sbu is making accusations, but we don't really know, maybe whether
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it is true that he is retired, or is this also a legend, it is difficult to verify, because when he simply understood what he was talking about, that is what he is being accused of , then we could just be the first reaction, the first ones, eh, that he invented this legend for the idea, he could of course, although he is 35 years old, he could in principle how to retire in the military, he talked about all this very nervously, that is, i saw him that he became nervous, at first he said three years ago, then he left the whole conversation about the fact that i don't remember anything, it was a long time ago, i have been associated with the army for a long time, a long, long time ago a long, long time ago that 's why i don't know how much it is possible to believe him, that is, in this case, if he believes the sbu, or if he believes this, alexey ivanenko. of course, i believe more than the sbu. what do you think of these people? they are they are afraid of the court or they are afraid of each other, judging
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by the words of this friend who was shouting about crimea, he seems to be either ochen, well, maybe he was a little drunk. on the dock, they were definitely nervous because they were now in the center of attention, and they were nervous. i think not because they think that someday they will have a fair trial, but rather because they will have some problems at work that someone will ask something, and maybe there will be relatives and acquaintances, that is, it is just such a reaction of people who were not publicly known, and suddenly everything is discussed, their photos appear, then more likely a reaction. i do not think that they ah-ah, they are worried that they will be judged. here it is, and yes, it seems to me that i spoke the longest dialogue through which i spoke later. i also think that
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he was drunk, i could hear him rather than all the alarm clocks in the background, who were helping him there, answer to questions here but fear most likely just because of this attention they are afraid that they will be punished and tell me please what do you think is it possible to somehow establish the involvement of each person based on open data now? conditionally speaking how here he shouted i didn't press the button well, it's still understandable who and what did eh and understand eh whose fault it is absolutely the spring of chewing gum still need to be proven or it's complicated from open sources here is the chief of staff, and he is wearing a mask, and he is very nervous, as he said this nervy with fur that i pressed the button, well, it’s quite likely that a-a conditionally pressed the button a person eh-e with a more a-a low position yes that’s eh-e that’s why it’s easy to
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say so eh-e it’s clear that a-a higher commands always i have to answer, even if he says the plane here, the prime minister, i didn’t sit down to watch the other performers, for example, and here’s who directly pressed a-a, it’s quite difficult, but in principle, um , i think you can a-a find out from maxim who also serves in this regiment eh and try also them for example eh either they will call or they will try to contact them somehow, but the probability is very small, ah, well, i think, i hope that the sbu will still provide some data, uh, in detail, when they will conduct more investigations, i know from personal experience, too, that when i discovered something in the social networks of the russian military , and there i either wrote something to them in the comments, asked them or just tagged them, then several hours passed and they safely deleted
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all their pages, and only there were screenshots . as in your case, here are all six people with whom you tried to contact and talk to them. they, too, have all already deleted themselves from social networks. you were the first and the last to talk to them. here is oleg tymosynon, the highest-ranking colonel. his data was published by various ukrainian channels that are also engaged in an open source investigation. there osint joly is even different from the channels and his data was published on the old social networks, his wife’s page , his son’s page , and they started to delete it very quickly. public a-a he has not answered anywhere, that is, it was not at all impossible to get in touch, and yes, the page is certainly not cleaned, but there are methods that help with some information even from remote parties - it is still very difficult to delete the internet there something forever, that's why some website templates are made by different services, and that's why,
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for example , we published their photos, here are some of them, some of which have already been deleted from these pages for a long time. irina thanks for the comments. edition which identified six russian soldiers who may be involved in the attack on the dnipro thanks to the head of the dnipro defense staff, who is located outside of ukraine gennady korban, a native of dnipro, announced a $25,000 reward for information about the russian soldier who fired a rocket at a residential building in the dnipro gennady korban joins to our broadcast good evening good evening mr. korban why did you decide to announce this award because ukrainian law enforcement officers should also do their job regardless of whether there will be a reward or not, what is your motivation? in any case, people
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who engage in similar things should have material motivation, therefore , first of all, government bodies act according to their own methods. yes, but i first i will not see that this reward will be given to the so-called non -state structures, parallel structures that conduct information first, and there are such structures in ukraine, thank god they appeared and work very effectively because, in principle, i received the information in the first literally on the same day, in the first hours, regarding, first of all, the entire personnel of this regiment, and i already received information with a 95 percent probability about the person who directly covered the launch. that 's all they did in general.
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the state ones that conduct information intelligence and i believe that such structures are very effective, i believe that such structures need support, first of all, material, therefore, i proposed material material support in order to stimulate their interest although their interest in general is to be stimulated and it was necessary because these people are patriots, it is very deep, so to speak, people interested in finding the truth that is why they need to develop and why not why did we offer you happy birthday then we received please share which editions you have received or do they match the data that russian and ukrainian journalists are voicing in front of you literally. we also spoke with a russian journalist. well, in principle, they are the same data, the
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data published by the security service of ukraine, and not published by a whole series of navigators , pilots, the regimental commander and the chief of staff of the regiment, but i was directly interested in the person who was sitting at the wheel, who was... well, let's say so er, the so- called sniper, as they are called a flier. that is why these data do not match . in a residential building in the dnipro, what is his name, do you remember his name, yes, let's remember the name, i have a record, and how are all the details of his
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family, it's like this, well, lieutenant colonel valery of the guards rykov, he is a pilot , a squadron commander and a sniper, and 95% of the motivation is that he was the one who called the launch . er, this pilot will be specifically tied to the board from which he made launches only if he fell ill or maybe something else happened. indigo was replaced by someone, then it was a second person, but the probability is not high. most likely, the probability is high, rather. what exactly was he who consecrated the launch of the net? from e-e
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analysts who work with open sources yes yes they work not only with open sources they work with different sources that is why they are incorm e-e intelligence yes there is austin there are molfars they dig very deep they have some kind of agency networks, you obviously know. this is how the foreign intelligence service is. they must have their own agents, as well as inform the defense in general. inform napal, well, they probably have some of their own informants at some points of the russian federation, perhaps, i suppose. and that's why they get some more даны чем те которые есть в открытый остачи, well, to confirm for sure or to get, i don't know yet, so to speak, more evidence, probably you are waiting for some kind of verification by law enforcement officers, it's important for you if the sbu also makes this information public, or is it possible
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not only for me, it is important for the whole society, but in fact i want to tell you that uh, absolutely, and even if this person pressed the trigger, uh, there are other people who commanded assaults who were among the regiment commanders their guilt is the same before ukraine, before the citizens of ukraine, these people must receive retribution they must be brought to court or in some other way receive the so- called retribution in order for people who live in ukraine to understand that any similar crime we also order people in russia who live and exist with such orders, they must also understand that retribution will be about punishment by a court or, as you said, in some other way, when you wrote this announcement
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that you are ready to give a reward for information about those related to the attack on the dnipro, you wrote "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth." it occurred to me that it was about some kind of extrajudicial revenge , or did i not understand it so well? we know that later in israel, for example, after the second world war, the so-called compensation bureau arose. er, the point is over nazi criminals and retribution to nazi criminals, so the methods of retribution are different, i do not call for mating stomachs and cutting throats, this is definitely one of the best
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in civilized ways, this is justice and these people must be brought to justice, but it happens that it is impossible to do it and therefore there are some other alternative forms of retribution, i will not list them because i am not a specialist yes, we can all guess about them or something to have in mind here is uh for this you need to create such structures, set them tasks and, accordingly, perform these tasks in a linear way that will determine this structure. and if we talk about court verdicts, you personally have personally, there is faith and hope that we will live to see these court verdicts, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, we will see the trial , i am confident that we will see and witness the trial of the top of russia, not only at the top, but all the war criminals who committed crimes against humanity
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against ukraine because that's what is happening today in ukraine is genocide . we saw that there was a big process from fascism. likewise sooner or later there will be a process in russian in russian neo fascism which we now observe and which we have become witnesses for the genocide of the ukrainian people thank you very much gennady korban ukrainian statesman politician businessman was on the radio freedom, thank you very much, thank you very much oleksiy arestovych submitted an application for dismissal from the post of freelance adviser to the office of the president of ukraine, i want to show an example of civilized behavior, a fundamental mistake. so, he wrote his resignation in doda's social networks

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