then a crime against humanity against ukraine, because what is happening today in ukraine is genocide, you started calling it that. in the same way, hitler exterminated jews , not only jews and gypsies, other nations during the second world war, emotion, they saw that there would be a big trial against fascism in the same way sooner or later there will be a process in russian in russian for me in fascism which we are now observing and which we have become witnesses for the genocide of the ukrainian people, thank you very much gennady korban ukrainian state politician, businessman, was on radio liberty, thank you very much, thank you very much, oleksiy arestovych submitted an application for dismissal from the post of freelance adviser to the office of the president of ukraine, i want to show an example of civilized behavior, a fundamental mistake. so, he resigned in social networks, adding a photo of the statement, the

press secretary of the president of ukraine, serhii nikiforov, comments ukrainian pravda stated that the president's office granted the arrestee's request and released him . the rocket that hit a residential building in dnipro was allegedly shot down by ukrainian air defense forces. later, he was arrested or apologized and said that he had made a mistake, but his statement was widely reported on the kremlin media . announced the collection of signatures for the resignation of the arrestee, obviously the arrestee was valued at the bank. well, for example, at the end of 2022, the head of the president's office, andrii, said that arestovich was in his city, that he has his army of supporters and communicates with it very professionally, the detainee's statement was jokingly called soothing at the beginning of the invasion , arestovych often repeated the same

thesis that active hostilities in ukraine would end within 2-3 weeks, this became the reason for numerous jokes and memes, but these reassuring statements seem to have been played by the zaristovach as well. 2-3 weeks passed and the war continued and what happened next. issues of strategic communications in the field of national security and defense, or is he simply not an expert in these matters, and then why is he an adviser on lawyers ? as a freelance adviser, we will now discuss the political component of this whole situation with volodymyr fesenko, a political scientist. my greetings . the arrestee, and if you agree, then why was he so valuable? well, you have to ask those

who are at the bank. it's hard for me to say, i know what you are, too. i watched yarmak's interview. here's his statement about the arrestee, well, yarmak appreciated the arrestee i think that if narestovych was a freelance adviser, that means yarmak valued him. i will remind you that arestovych worked for a long time as a representative. well, as such, the de facto speaking head of the ukrainian delegation in the tripartite contact group was , er, an informal speaker from the presidential the team from the president is on various tv broadcasts. i think that they were evaluated in this sense. it seems to me that the prime time of the arrestee was in march-april . well, maybe

i was a little hasty with the rainbow assessments, but there was a lot of it. i would say that he was a smart sober material, he had certain insides, how he lashed out at extremes in his assessments of an aristocratic arrestee, a talented figure, a rather intelligent person, a person who is a person who is a wonderful media character and wanted to say an artistic person. but at the same time, he is a very controversial figure, very controversial, and sometimes everyone is an arrestee. sometimes he is admired .

with the information about the alleged air defense missile that hit the dnipro, you understand, here i think that medina's character varestovych overplayed in principle enough, let's say, a sufficiently experienced military expert, he really is like that, and she has experience the information is certain and he is intelligent enough . you can evaluate different uh-uh situations, another thing is that sometimes he wants to be a great strategist or demonstrate uh-uh that he has some kind of inside information and then everything is carried by him, then i would say a small one without whiplash in the arresting officer of the coast guard over an intelligent person, educated on so this is his contradiction, but one thing is the aristocrat himself in all his contradictions, another thing is the reaction to what happened, this is also indicative. i think that there should be a lesson. and for the amount of the arrestee himself if he wants to engage in politics

he keeps on repeating, otherwise nothing will work for him . the naked nerve of the war, the emotion of the war manifested themselves. well, the enemy presidential team called this situation to arestovich. he turned out to be such a very, very acceptable, attractive misha, by the way, in the same role. he also appeared for the russian propaganda unfortunately for the media, the fact is that a tragedy has happened, and that is why such situations must be approached very responsibly, very delicately, not in a hurry to give out any unverified information. you know right away what the problem is with such hype. he overshadowed the significance of this tragedy. that is also why there are problems and this is what you said is a lesson for the future not only for the arrestee. you said that such a thesis is interesting. if he wants to engage in

politics, he should no longer allow such you know the mistakes. and i have often heard in political circles recently that the president's office is actually considering an arrestee as a candidate for such a sparring partner. i don't know a competitor for the elections. you object to the ban, you think it’s not so, i don’t agree, well, i understand the psg, poroshenko’s party, you understand all his supporters - this is what you need to understand . he is a reflection of zelensky’s popularity, first of all, and the popularity of the wartime he was perceived as the president's voice, well, one of the president's voices announced that it would be

more accurate and correct for the president's office, yes, and that's why it's basically the pandas of president zelenskyi and vice versa, you zelenskyi and it could be well, first of all, poroshenko's party workers well for them, arestovich is the personification of evil in all its manifestations, and he is constantly reminded of it, although at one time he supported petro oleksiyovych. by the way, he was close to his team, but now it's the opposite, and by the way, i think he is also an ideological enemy for them they also perceive something critically. if he were to run together with the president. by the way , zelensky himself, aristovych himself, said about this that if zelenskyi does, i will not run for office here. said

figure plan that can play on certain sympathies of some of its supporters, which have become less in my opinion and the time of stardom has already passed but nevertheless he is cute aboyatelny a-ah and he has his own audience, as evidenced recently by a survey and the center of intelligence i do not i think that this will be enough for success not only in the presidential elections, but also in the parliamentary elections, if it is some project of the arrestee, but the ambitsion is not a team player, he is such a character that there were many in ukrainian politics, narcissus, he wants to play alone, always be a soloist, and politics is still a collective game. by the way, zelenskyi understood this very well at the beginning of his career, when he did not have any political experience, but he, er, had previously been a team player in another business and in in politics, this is also

an aristovych in him. no, i myself, and this is also one of his problems for his further political career. by the way, he is quite audacious today. he is retiring, he said what he said when i was last once he resigned, well, relatively speaking, he left because he had several returns there and came to the president's office, yes. so when i resigned six months later, the invasion began. he is probably hinting that he will return again, or is he joking like that, it's strange. oh, maybe i will immediately refute my memory i remember this situation for no more than six months. well, at least a lot has changed. you know, this year was so busy that we no longer remember. well, maybe the details of what happened when and so on, but i remember this very situation very well. days before the start of the war or there after

i think it was a few weeks in february, when he made public statements that everything was wrong. it was just after , let's say, they started to slow down, well, after the surge in january of last year, what a race - exactly a year ago, do you remember how they tried to detain there at the airport on poroshenko well, the prosecutor’s office and those who prepared this whole special operation failed, heck, that’s how you can call it, they failed with this. and the arresting officer was very annoyed by this, and he did it sometime later, it seems to me somewhere in february, at the beginning of february or within this february, he criticized the presidential team, saying that it is necessary or demonstrated to take on such things, in principle it is correct, i can agree, but here is the question: i go, i don't go, or i am with you, or not with you, this is exactly what reflects him nature, i say, he plays by himself eh and

eh, you know him, this wind is political or the wind of his moods carries it either one way or the other, i will not be surprised if somewhere there eh after the war already eh in a year or there after some period it will carry him in some other direction such a person, although i say it once again, he can play with the audience, but he really has such an appeal for a certain audience and he is smart in many things, he is, well, when i hear his interview, i am a lot too. i accept but with on the other hand, this is the same thing again, this is the same kind of showing off for this uh-uh, bender's snobbery as in half with khlestakov's snobbery. sometimes he shows himself so much that everything uh-uh, but here he starts drinking uh-uh, and that's exactly what destroys him

in the end, thank you very much for volodymyr fesenko's comment, we talked about resignation thanks to oleksiy arsetovych, the world economic forum is underway in davos, switzerland. for the first time since 2020, the event is being held in the traditional offline format . more than fifty heads of state are currently in attendance. eu zoryana stepanenko, she keeps track of her form in davos, starry my greetings, is there any news for kyiv good evening ? completely new challenges, how to prevent an economic recession, which, accordingly, is dragging on due to the war in ukraine, inflation is already being observed all over the world and the crisis will only intensify if russia, which has unleashed hostilities , does not lose, warned the international

community, the first lady of ukraine, addressing from the stage to the influential delegates of politicians , businessmen, noted olena zelenska that not everyone uses their influence to end the war and gave the participants of the forum letters from her husband, the president of ukraine, where the ukrainian formula for peace is written in addition to the chapter the message from the european commission of the president of switzerland was also received by chinese vice prime minister olena zelenska, who asked to pass the letter to xi jinping and also said that russia had no intention of stopping its aggression on the borders of ukraine, adding that it continues to cause pain and suffering to ukrainians, with thousands of children whom we must protect from destruction of their connection with their relatives to the motherland, which russia is doing by giving thousands of ukrainian children for adoption, illegal adoption to a russian family, and this is not just an attempt by russia to erase to remind them of who they are, this is a crime against

the very essence of russia's fatherhood, it will not be possible to avoid punishment for what it has done, the president of the european commission also assured from the stage and said that the sanctions will ensure the regression of the russian economy for decades to come, ursula fonderlein also recalled how after the invasion many prophesied that kyiv would fall in a few days, but all these prophecies, she said, did not take into account the moral and physical stability of ukrainians . continue to help ukrainians to hold on as long as necessary and help to restore energy to the infrastructure, as well as to participate in long-term reconstruction, calling on the private sector to participate in this. and by the way, a lot of businessmen and businessmen sat in the hall, as usual, at the nadav forum, even russian merciless attacks on

civilian infrastructure in the winter period did not shake your determination. your country has changed over the course of this year, inspired the whole of europe, and i can assure you that europe will always stand with you. ukraine received from the european union 3 billion euros is the first tranche of a multibillion-dollar loan, the amount of which, considering that it is granted in a third country, is unprecedented . as you know, this money will not go to military needs, only to humanitarian aid, so that ukraine can stay afloat, pay salaries, pensions, and also support the work of schools and hospitals. defense needs, who is the german chancellor in davos now, and a number of allies of ukraine are now using personal contact to convince him to transfer german tanks to ukraine after all, the president poland said today that he hopes for a

positive decision, and the leader of lithuania emphasized that this cannot be delayed, and the german vice chancellor, by the way, commenting on this topic today, said that if a number of countries want to provide ukraine with western german tanks, then accordingly, if they want to this is a way to help, you don't need to stand in their way, why should we allow it to be done well , robert habyk was asked whether germany itself is ready to provide its tanks to ukraine or whether the leopards will go to ukraine from germany then he moved away from the answer to this question . well, vitaliy klitschko met with khabyk, and after this conversation, the mayor of kyiv wrote on his social networks that ukraine should wait for good news, this is zoryan's intrigue. thank you very much zoryan stepanenko, live from davos, where the world economic forum is ongoing, thank you almost half of the residents of 9 eu countries want a quick end to the war in ukraine, even at the cost

of ukraine losing its territories. as i said, polling centers were conducted in nine eu countries, portugal, austria , the netherlands, poland, spain, france, germany, italy and greece, so more than 60% of the inhabitants of austria, germany want the war to end quickly, the quick end of the war in ukraine at the cost of territorial losses , greeks also support 54% of italians 50% spaniards 50% in the netherlands 48% of citizens are against ukraine giving up its territories for the sake of a quick end to the war in portugal 45%, and in poland 42%. what does all this sociology tell us about how it can influence on military aid for ukraine from the same eu countries, where it turns out that the residents are not ready for a quick peace, even at the cost of

losing their territories to ukraine. and what kind of sociology is this from the citizens of european countries? explain these results of the poll when the europeans say we need a quick peace even at the cost of losing your territories. well, you know the poll was not only about ukraine, but actually about other issues that worry europeans, and it seems to me that there are literally two numbers, i will tell you they will be absolutely clear 93% of the europeans they think that it means them, they more precisely feel a kind of threat to their standard of living and 46% of europeans believe that as a result of covid-19 and it is not the russian

federation against ukraine, their life has already worsened and actually this is the answer to why they want peace as soon as possible, maybe in ukraine, well, something will have to be lost there, because they are definitely not going through the tragedy that we are going through, well, everything here is completely understandable, and that's exactly why when you showed this infographic with numbers where germany and austria is on one side and poland is on the opposite side, or the poles are neighbors, you don't remember the very painful divisions of poland and the soviet occupation. well, actually those crimes that even time after 1991 is believed to have been committed by the russian federation, i'm not saying about the baltic states here. unfortunately, they did not present. here, but about germany and about austria, especially, and especially especially in the light of such a scandalous statement of the minister of foreign affairs of austria that it is necessary to

balance uh-uh, it means a response to the aggression of the russian federation, because uh, they say after a certain time from the russian the federation will somehow have to live together and it must be part of the european security system. the germans have the same thoughts, and before that, the germans are still blamed for the second world war, and i think that the slow realization of what they created the holocaust, and they are actually one of the architects of this war, because they were set up by the interests of not only ukraine, but even their allies in yesina, the baltic countries of poland, who warned that the russian federation was gaining momentum there and revanchism and resentment and other such things which will lead to a disaster, you remember very well that even after the first maneuvers on our borders in the spring of last year, i missed the lesson, i'm sorry, um, mrs. merkel

signed the agreement and actually gave the green light nord stream-2, the sole purpose of this project was to deprive ukraine not only of money, but also of protection, because in the event of a conflict between ukraine and the russian federation, the export of energy carriers to the west, primarily to germany , could be affected. personal interests, the corruption of certain politicians , even in the same germany. no one has canceled the schlueder factor, but of course the old man only has a misunderstanding of what ukraine is. that it is a separate nation, in particular, in terms of culture and history, which is not here persecution of russian-speakers, because you know very often even those who are more or less familiar with ukraine, even sympathizers, they talk about some kind of separatism in donetsk and luhansk, which never existed and, in principle , could not exist. that is why all these things are cultural, some kind of misunderstanding, strategic

interests which did not coincide with ours, but they created such a background against which the opinion of the citizens of the european union is formed to this day, the further they are from russia, the less they care about what is happening here. to this sociology, i will remind you once again that more than 60% of austrians in germany want the war to end quickly and here. why i focus on germany is because the german government. countries and so on. how do you think that such a consensus in german society in austrian society can somehow now influence the readiness of these governments and the authorities to transfer heavy weapons to ukraine, the same tanks , olafshol can now conditionally speak and say well you you know, my citizens are 60% against the end of a long war, if i put

tanks there now, the war can last a very long time . well, you know. to the insanity of the polish government and did not add tanks to ukraine well, if such an argument is made by some fluent pole, then why not say and rely on sociological data, and here too . too germany does a lot and uh, too little. and about 41%, well, in fact, the majority of those who think that what they do is just enough, but you know, another disease of europeans is, above all, fed up with uh, western old europe, this is the emphasis of diplomacy. 52% of germans believe that there are not enough diplomatic measures made by ukraine and its partners in relation to the

russian federation in order to resolve this so -called conflict 34 believe that it is enough and only four believe that it is too much and of course that the ukrainians are definitely there, they would, if they voted, ask for these four percent ago, it is certain that scholz will try to levitate, but on the other hand, we see increasing pressure on him from european partners, especially the united states, for a reason mr. ustin is flying to germany, he will participate in rammstein in this group, which votes in which way how quickly will aid be provided to ukraine or is it provided more precisely or is this format already working, and of course what will work here as well and our british partners, they clearly understand the price of putin's promises and these peace yes called for ukraine, because peace would not be needed in ukraine, because peace for ukraine would mean the next war in the spring, i don’t know

whether in a year or two, we need victory , that is, the liberation of our territories, and then there will be peace that will last at least a few decades, because if russia remains in the borders of which it exists, it will pose a threat to us , and even if it falls apart , it will pose a threat to us, but of a different nature, yes, refugees there or there, what, what, what, all the other such soft threats are so-called, so yes he can defend himself, i mean old scholz, these statistics show that he listens to his citizens, but on the other hand, you know, in fact, that is the essence of leadership when you talk to your citizens and when you explain certain decisions that need to be made that may not be very pleasant, let's remember the times of the second world war, how the americans were not very willing to participate in some war in europe, but actually, the political

leadership understood that this conflict would embarrass the united states, and therefore it is necessary to prepare to prepare the citizens, well, the opinion of the citizens, and then actually not. to take part in this war actually. it seems to me that the leadership in europe in this is precisely to understand the danger not only to ukraine from the russian federation . thank god, the majority of our partners understand this, but also to form the opinion of our own citizens, because this is a joint process, not only do we have to listen to the citizens, but we also have to explain them well, but here is your personal opinion. you announced it yourself, just said that in a few days there will be another meeting in the rammstein format this week, ukraine will receive tanks, i am not referring to the british ones, but the german ones, which everyone has been talking about for a month now. well, i am more inclined to say that mr. offshol will not be able to keep the pressure on himself and at least he will remove this

a ban on the supply of tanks by other countries, because here the question is that there is a system of expert control that does not allow countries that even bought e-e weapons in one of the countries without its permission to transfer or transfer or do something else except directly to own territory there or as allies and actually this can be a solution such as the coalition, and the most important thing, you know, if you look at the number of tanks that european countries have, there are definitely leopards , it all seems to be about 300-70 for the germans there in second place is spain, there are about 320, followed by finland with 200, and 100 is, well, old, but for us they will also be useful. and those that are not actually preserved, and there are a few in poland. actually , if these countries say so, they will make a decision and

for themselves, they will allocate not such large amounts for us, then it will be a significant help, and most importantly, it will be a precedent, because you know , until february 24, they were afraid to give us some powerful systems there, the same artillery ones, they are talking about hymers, but he even lost the battle, but when saw the successes of ukraine and, on the other hand, the atrocities of the russians, then they changed their minds and now we have heimers, we have patriots. well, not yet actual, but the decision has been made and the tanks. i think it will continue. seaking helicopters have already been handed over to us by the british there were some rumors, let's say. but i think that it was most likely just such information. let's just say that in kyiv, even the apaches seemed to us british. i don't believe in this case. oleksandr, we will live with the smell of rammstein. oleksandr gara is an expert

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