16 about the 16 dead. three of them are children . more than 25 people were injured. now they are providing all the necessary medical assistance, and volunteers have opened a humanitarian headquarters in brovary lyceum number 10 next to this kindergarten. doctors, psychologists , police officers, rescuers, you can also a-a drink warm tea, eat there, they provide all the necessary assistance, and volunteers deliver to police officers, rescuers, e-e, humanitarian aid in in the form of water, something to eat, and we talked to the spokeswoman of the national police of the kyiv region, here's what she told us, let's listen to the dead, all tragedies are among the dead. i, too , and children. currently, the head of the

police of the kyiv region is working on the spot. criminalists. our criminal police will investigate the matter. the security service of ukraine. what are they doing now? police officers at the scene, we will establish possible witnesses of this tragedy, photos, videos, look for pencils who may have seen this. and we appeal to everyone, please. if you witnessed the tragedy if you saw exactly how yes he behaved like that where did he run away how exactly please inform the police now we will also work on the identification of the dead and what is known as of now is that today the government will hold an extraordinary meeting at which the minister of internal affairs a-a they say that he can to become one of denis mostyskyi's deputies and we will continue to be here on my own, maybe we will

also try even after the victims go to the hospital and ask them about the first uh what they heard what they saw because a lot of children were injured pansy dmytro well if you you can still hear us. the helicopter fell directly on the building of the kindergarten or near the kindergarten. and these children who died, where were they? well, that's what we heard, and let's even ask the operator to turn the camera. in the other direction, you see this building, and if we manage to show it there uh, the walls burned down and the helicopter fell into that part of the building, and uh , the uh wall has been destroyed there now, and the rescuers are working there on the spot, they are using rescue cranes to remove the fragments of the roof that was uh, destroyed by

the fall of the helicopter, and how do we reported here what to show, he flew over the roof and fell somewhere near that part near the playground near the entrance of the residential building there are now the wreckage of the helicopter and the investigators are conducting actions to collect the evidence base and so that's it. this is the information we know dmytro didora correspondent espresso at the scene of the incident in brovary, where a helicopter fell today, the helicopter crashed, three children and the leadership of the ministry of internal affairs were killed, a total of 16 dead - this is a number that has already been confirmed, and now, the cabinet of ministers appointed an acting minister at 3:00 p.m. the head of the ministry of internal affairs was informed about this by the spokeswoman of the prime minister olga kuryshko, i quote the government will be this afternoon, she said that it is expected that the meeting

will be held around 3:00 p.m. until the approval of the new minister by the verkhovna rada . one of the deputies will probably perform the duties of the minister of internal affairs. well, among of those who died during the helicopter crash in brovary three from the leadership of the ministry of internal affairs, three pilots from the state emergency service and three persons from the number of assistants and guards of the minister serhii krug of the state emergency service reported on facebook that 15 people were killed according to the police, this was still at 12:30, but now there are 16, the remaining number among them are three children, denys monastyrskyi , yevhen yenin, yuriy lubkovich, and the crew of the state emergency service, oleksandr vasylenko, kostyantyn kovalenko , also died. ivan kasyanov well, regarding security, one photographer was also there, according to ukrainian pravda sources - this is still unconfirmed information, and the minister's assistant

and the minister's security, we will return. volumes of gas for the heating season this was reported by the head of the company, oleksiy chernyshov, quoting excellent news from davos, gas will be enough, it was agreed on the reservation of additional volumes of gas needed by ukraine for this year's heating season, according to mr. chernyshov, during the forum, a number of meetings were held with international institutions and leading energy companies companies, i quote, and the european bank for reconstruction and development have agreed on financing mechanisms for the purchase of additional volumes of gas necessary for ukraine with our western partners of the hebrews, norway, the usa, germany, france, canada, and great britain, about financing purchases with leading oil and gas companies, about

reserving the necessary volumes, these after the plane crash, everything that was buried there and the remains of the rotorcraft, we attach the frisian game, people's deputy of ukraine, member of the verkhovna rada committee on legal policy, ihoru falls we congratulate you, maybe unkind, unfortunately, unkind , now we will see you or hear us, yes , absolutely, well, the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelensky, has instructed the security services of ukraine to cooperation with the national police to find out all the circumstances of the tragedy and expressed his condolences to all the relatives and friends of the deceased, mr. ihor, how do you think the process of appointing a new minister will go now, we understand that the matter here is not in different personnel stories, so to speak. well, there must be a minister in the current

critical ukrainian situation appeared as soon as possible, well, most likely, it will be adopted for sure at the first upcoming meeting of the full-fledged verkhovna rada of ukraine. when will be the next plenary session, before that, a meeting of the committee should take place first of all with issues of law enforcement, which were once headed by the deceased denys monastyrskyi when he was a member of the verkhovna rada, the submission will most likely go to this committee and only after its consideration will it be considered by the verkhovna rada , a new head of the ministry will be appointed. but it seems to me that already today it was announced that the cabinet of ministers will literally today appoint a temporary acting minister of internal affairs because a country in a state of war cannot be without the acting leader who is admitted to state secrets and is included in the stake. that is, these are the key issues of the security of our state, so we

agree with igor, on the other hand, we will always remember the smolensk disaster whether we like it or not, but we understand that the enemy does not disdain such methods, in particular , it is about his barbaric attacks on our civilian objects well, accordingly, are there any chances to establish, so to speak, an additional, so to speak, possibly terrorist specifics of this disaster, this is the security service again announced that she has already started a pre-trial investigation of the said issue, a criminal case has been opened, a corresponding criminal proceeding has been registered in the register, but i strongly believe that the investigation will have many questions necessary to establish this, first of all, is it a terrorist attack, is it an accident, or is it negligence ? route over the breweries over the city was it legal was it

a violation of the flight rules or was there no violation of the flight rules was it observed the appropriate did you mention the smolensk disaster kudos high five which here i want yes to hear and establish the key questions whether the regime of e-e secrecy was observed taking into account the fact that the highest authorities of the state were flying with a rotorcraft, were the appropriate weather conditions observed for the indicated flight, was there no damage to the detailed apparatus, or if it was, was it intentional , was it not intentional is it possible that there is some kind of defect in the type of the corresponding rotorcraft, eh, or will the witnesses be interviewed, most likely, the witnesses of this disaster will be interviewed, respectively, to the question of m.m. with answers to the question of whether it burned in the air or fell there are many questions, indeed, the investigation will continue , an appropriate commission will be formed, which should give answers to all these questions, in principle, i am sure that this is an appropriate challenge

to society and, accordingly, a challenge to our law enforcement officers and, accordingly, a challenge to judicial experts, i do not have any even there, there is a shred of doubt about the expertise of the forensic medical experts who will work on the research of the specified issues. but still, in my personal opinion, it is the public and transparent hmmm prose of the specified the question must be answered by the relatives and the society, er, regarding our dead , let's not forget, after all, you correctly announced that we are in a state of war and the enemy wants to destroy everyone and everyone, and they will not er, let's say so we need to develop some additional security protocols for the leadership of the state as soon as possible, which should be adopted in the conditions of war, at a minimum. it seems to me that an example is that they should not fly. is it impossible for

the minister and the deputy to fly on the same plane ? the minister or the leadership, for example, of the verkhovna rada, that is, it should be divided in order to secure the state in a state of war from the possibility of losing the direct leadership of the state , so to safety and the ability to preserve our leadership in conditions of war. the manager is on the same board, and there is also, from the information that is available , they flew to kharkiv region, so if there were also assistants and a photographer, it must have been some kind of visit. so maybe it is worth limiting these visits . now, such important officials for of the country's security, what else should be in these protocols, uh, well, first of all, as i already announced, there should definitely be separate sides, this is, first

of all, secondly, some kind of official necessity. the leadership of the ministry of internal affairs, but i know that personally, from the 19th year of denys monastyrskyi, he was, let's see, we can analyze with you, he was absolutely not some kind of person who lived in the living room for haiku, he was a completely sober thinker he was an innovator and the bills that we together with him promoted in the verkhovna rada, which were adopted with my participation and with his participation, they show exactly what he lived only with one goal and worked with one goal, to achieve that level of legal awareness and ensure the rights of citizens who are in front of us, in front of the leaders, in front of every citizen .

were in their place at a critical moment. you very rightly touched on history, so to speak, with the necessary security protocols. well, because returning to the smolensk disaster, we remember that many representatives of the polish ruling elite died there and certain security protocols were violated, let's hope that the corresponding consequences will be conclusions will be made in a timely manner. if we talk about the general situation with the corresponding necessary measures . i know secretly or completely secretly and so on and so on well, but in order for this to be done as soon as possible and if we talk about the results of all the necessary examinations, when do you think it will be possible to hear plus or minus clear versions of what happened,

well, at least it is necessary that the relevant mandates, protocol mandates in the context of criminal proceedings were provided by the appropriate expert. i am not ready to say how long this or that examination takes, but considering the large number of dead, the work will be enough for the experts, and this will probably be faster than this explosive examination, there is a dna examination and other forensic medical examinations and measures that are carried out according to the appropriate procedures correspond to the appropriate procedures of criminal proceedings. i would not like it to be fast, but frankly i will tell you because i would like it to be as possible openly as professionally as possible and so that we can say yes, you know, the baby was not thrown out with the water, so that we, having all the conclusions of this commission, could draw conclusions for ourselves and precisely change or

correct those mistakes that could have been allowed er, as a result of the operation of certain vehicles of certain boards, but what the conclusions will be. i am sure that the president clearly stated in his speech that he trusts those services that have taken responsibility to investigate the specified criminal, shall we say, offense. thank you, sir. ihor ihor fries, people's deputy of ukraine, member of the verkhovna rada committee on legal policy, it is reported that the number of victims in brovary has increased to 17 as of 14 information, four children died and nine people who were on board, together with the minister of internal affairs regarding the helicopter crash in brovary, the security service of ukraine announced versions of those malfunctions, violation

of flight rules, intentional, and we will keep this situation under close control , a military expert joins the former experts glory to ukraine, your comments on what happened today and this is probably a signal that we need to review the country. i mean security protocols in general, the behavior of the authorities that are a really big loss. i personally knew that panayenin and mr. monastyrskyi. we talked really. well, really cool people. it's really a big loss. we are also out of sympathy for the relatives of the dead and those people who died directly on the ground under the debris. we are very, very sorry about the technical situation. there are really three versions, the correct ones have announced three trunk versions

, either an error or a technical one, or there is a third-party intervention, and i believe that you know here that the government should do it as quickly as possible and as transparently as possible, even if there are certain facts that, let's say, are not very good in a good world , expose the activities of the ministry or generally high-ranking officials of ukraine, they should be made public as if otherwise. but the shaky trust that currently exists between society and the state can be completely destroyed by such silences, and in war conditions it will be very, very have negative consequences, how long do you think such cases can be investigated? well, in particular, it is about establishing what actually happened, or whether it was the work of some russian subversive group, possibly working with territories of brovary maybe someone pointed out and so on and so on well, i don't want to multiply the conspiracy theory like this, but maybe there really was some kind of tag malfunction well, although, according to

the idea, the helicopter is plus-minus new, how long, mr. ivan, can such things be investigated, well , you know such things it is possible to investigate for years, yes. if there is interest there, it can be dragged out there for several years. but i am sure that if you invite me here, i am sure that it will be an invitation from the employees of the technical company that manufactured these helicopters i don't remember whether it's a eurocopter or a eurobass, well, the european one is not important, they will come and first of all they must exclude one version from these three, that is, the intervention of a third party, if it allows it, then our officials there must go to the state, for example, kyrylo tymoshenko or, i don't know, yarmak or the podolyak plan and say what, according to the conclusion of european experts, they say that nothing was there or i don’t know, it was cut. some kind of wires, yes, or conditionally there, sand is sprinkled somewhere. and there remains either some internal

technical malfunction, yes, a deep internal one, or a pilot error, and this already removes, you know, a certain part of the conspiratorial versions of the hop and cut them off, and then an objective investigation begins to clarify all the circumstances so that they do not repeat themselves in the future with other helicopters that are operated now in ukraine by the same brand of that helicopter. we can do it and so on. well, the question is how well certain routes are protected in our country. so on and so on, this is war, and war is also , to a large extent, work for the highest military and political leadership of the state, be it the cabinet of ministers or the president, or the command of the armed forces of ukraine or the security services, and so on. well, according to the list. well, accordingly, but the enemy is to say the least, he does not shy away from

these terrible barbaric methods. so why should we remember the assassination of president dudayev, and what happened, for example, to president lech kaczynski , because how many years have passed so far? and the final point treated by everyone no, no, that is, the polish investigation was conducted, but we remember what problems there were in getting the fuselage of the plane that fell near smolensk. well, accordingly, the investigation was very difficult, since it was located on enemy territory in russian territory, so you could not fully expand here. i think there should be no problems with this, the main thing is that there is no administrative pressure and this is really, unfortunately, a very negative reason, but it is a reason to carry out a maximum check of what is happening in the economy the first people move in cars, who are they? well, there are cars, helicopters, what are there planes, well, on

planes, hardly, but, nevertheless, check again, this is a job for counterintelligence, send your work there in these directions, ah, this is an inspection of the equipment of people personally, who is allowed to work with this aviation equipment or road equipment, well , cars, we mean what kind of past do they have, or are there no people with certain spots in the past? and there that they worked somewhere, it is not known where or are related to relatives, temporarily occupied territories or in general the territory of the russian federation, no, we just remember that the other day they detained an employee of a scientific research institute. it seems that there is something like this at the academy of the security service of ukraine. it's such a thing as to conduct a transparent, fast, and also a balanced, transparent investigation

, how long does it take ? there is no final result here, it may take years or how many months, days of the week, once again, i am not a technician, i am not a technical specialist, but it seems to me that it is possible to give within a month. well, we are a month, it is 30 days . this is the maximum that can be given, not the final results of the investigation, at least in the interim, we reject that version or, on the contrary, we emphasize this particular version, since the rest are a little unconfirmed, we have a priority. that is, the investigation can go somewhere more actively, but once again we must report to society society demands. look, if such officials are not protected during the war, how can ordinary citizens feel about it? they say oh, that is , they cannot protect the minister. and what can we say about us? that is, it will be a great turbulence

for society. therefore, it is necessary to act quickly and transparently yes we agree quickly promptly and transparently well, accordingly, we would like to ask you about the current situation on the front line or front lines, mr. ivan, what do you think the enemy is preparing now, in particular, it is about the big bloody donbas so-called operation i i am convinced that they will try to continue, as they consider their success in the east, to move on to exit completely on the administrative border of the donetsk region, that is, this this success that they now have such yes, yes, in soledar, it gives them wings like red bull and it seems to them that oh hooray, you can move on, they will try to press there, but there is still such an interesting indicator and the section of the front, it does not matter , it will be south, well, from the kherson region of zaporizhzhya, where private military companies will appear, it will mean that it will be such

a marker that an offensive is planned there as these private companies showed, this is not only about wagner's group, shoigu has his own private military company, and perhaps it is the only one. i apologize to shoigu. it is called redut pvk . it is included in the armed forces of the russian federation. the 45th is in kubinka. brigade, but there it is called the moscow region, the cuban one, er, it was created in contrast to how much wagner began to take all the attention there recently, he tried to take all the laurels for himself, but the military joined in work also began to recruit the content of the deprivation of liberty of people, but already under the auspices of the ministry of defense of the russian federation, and as far as we can judge, they took away from prigozhin this here and there victory, well, such a one in quotation marks between prigozhin and

lost victory, and everything was formulated in such a context, if they had not intervened in the russian regular parts, then prigozhin could still fight there for six months around soledar, and prigozhin is very, very annoyed by this, and there were reports that a plane to moscow or st. petersburg was trying to find out who how, where, but judging by everything, he did not succeed, well, analysts say that in the coming days, putin may announce a second wave of mobilization. what are your predictions, uh, what will happen there during his last speeches , there was a lot of talk, we all expected that he would say something like that something will happen, but as usual, he has certain resentments towards the west, you didn't understand us, you didn't hear us, eh, we wanted, we want the army in russian interests, blah blah , and that's the end of it. the mobilization in russia has a beginning, but there is no end.

they are mostly latent and hidden as far as they are. i really see that they are afraid that if they announce 500,000 at once, it may provoke certain negative sentiments. i am not talking about mass riots, but russian society is more loyal to the kremlin. they do not need certain waves on the water there, so they will latently spend a little bit more active there somewhere more quiet but 500,000 is not just another plus 500,000 in the eye 500,000 100% are going 120,000 people who they recruited during the last draft of conscripts no, they will just rewrite them, write them in the contract will drive them into a regular part and say well, we increased it by 120,000, that is, for the most part it will be like this, this is a game with numbers accounting, statistics, do you remember this soviet movie, uh, sweet world of numbers , statistics, yes, calculations yes, yes, yes, yes, yes

sweet world also andrii ilarionova, and the discussion was so long, we understand that it was very difficult. a part of our experts criticized the former putin adviser who now lives in the west. the other part said that maybe he is right in some ways. to speak with the voiced hilarionov, a throw or a forecast, well, he had a lot of publications. and by the way, some past ones, i will say so personally, were not completely clear to me, i did not understand on the basis of which he draws such conclusions. and now he has such a story, well, i have seen some publications that there we are conditionally thrown into ukraine, they don't give much, then they don't give , and everything is not given, and everything is bad, although at first i had more trust in him than he, as it seemed to me, was putin's adviser on

economic issues, he was called sherpa he went there to the kremlin and there are many books that describe the power in the kremlin, and it is hilarionov who is mentioned there, his relationship with sorokov. how did she meet there, that is, all these stories seemed to me that he would benefit ukraine more by revealing them to the world how does it happen, how does the decision-making process take place in russia, in which direction, in which direction do they think? yes, what is the mode of plumage there, the swingendi module, the way of thinking, the way of acting, but alas, only i hear more betrayals from him. that everything is lost to us they are thrown and that's all. well, honestly, i don't agree with this . well, if we take, for example, borderline conspiracy scenarios and assume that it was a drop. what is the purpose of such throws? we understand that, well, our special services and the special services of our allies, plus minus, control what is

happening on the areas adjacent to our border territories, yes, and forgive me for any surprise, lord, it should not happen. and this attempt to create turbulence from the inside, but literally yesterday, i caught my eye, wrote, forwarded familiar links to one of telegram channels there, well, subpoenas of kyiv yes, and there, the whole tape is littered everywhere , subpoenas are being distributed everywhere, metro, takata, metro, so-and-so, there, uh, takada hospital , so-and-so hospital, that is, after reading the latest publications, i got the impression that he is trying to make this thing more turbulent , everyone hide everyone will be mobilized. everything is a chapel for everyone. the end is gone. everything is gone. i understand that this is sand. that is, it is an attempt to shake society from the inside. they are not sure that they need to flee the country so that everything will disappear

here. trumpet on the fronts, everything is bad, but if the enemy has won the civilian component yes, if our civilian component is not confident but hides and does not go out into the streets, then you can say that he won a partial victory and this is the kind of victory they are trying to get for exactly what the civilians are not at the expense of the military, namely for the account of civilians is called to shake the rear , pour gasoline on it and then try to set it on fire, but it will not be possible while such wonderful and perceptive experts as ivan stupak are working with us, for which we are grateful to him, ivan stupak, a military expert, a former employee of the security service of ukraine, anzhelika sezonenko, is ready to tell us the latest news and details .