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that he and his wife jill expressed their condolences to the families of the victims and to ukraine in general in the plane wreckage in brovary. he said that they express their deepest condolences to the families of all those who died in the tragic disaster. well, he also reminded that the united states will continue to stand with the people of ukraine in the face of the tragedy. how long will it take? well, indeed, eternal memory. once again, i feel for the relatives and friends of those killed in the plane crash in brovary. 24 people are in the hospital, 14 people died, and also the minister of the interior goodbye denis to the monastery and eternal memory. thank you for being with us, we forgive you until friday. it was vasyl, winter and the big ether . take care. well, in a few seconds, the bbc from ukraine brings you to your attention. good evening. we are from ukraine on the bbc. news ukraine olga palamaryuk works in the studio in london and today in the program the tragedy in brovary
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fell near the kindergarten, a helicopter led by the ministry of internal affairs at least 14 people died, including a child , the cause of the plane crash is being investigated , the main versions of the violation of flight rules, technical malfunction of the helicopter and intentional actions and zelenskyi began an address to the participants of the economic forum in davos with a moment of silence for those who died in brovary this morning in brovary, kyiv region , a helicopter crashed, the tragedy occurred near a kindergarten, according to the information of the president's office, the helicopter was flying on a business trip to one of the hot spots where hostilities are currently ongoing in there were nine people on board, six
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members of the operative group of the ministry of internal affairs, as well as three crew members among the dead minister of internal affairs of ukraine denys monastyrskyi his first deputy yevhen yenin and state secretary yuriy lubkovich, in general, after carrying out identification at the place of the helicopter crash, found 14 dead, including nine crew members, among the victims is one child injured, 25 people, because during the tragedy, children and employees of the institution and the disaster was first reported by local residents on social networks, later they told journalists who arrived at the scene of the tragedy that they heard an explosion and a bright flash, so they were surprised. because there was no air blast before that alarms at the place of the helicopter crash, a large-scale fire broke out, and the staff and children whose parents took them to kindergarten in the morning were evacuated. it is currently unknown what could have
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caused the disaster. the investigator is considering several versions, technical malfunction, violation of flight rules and intentional actions, but first of all, they need to gather together and examine all the wreckage. rotorcraft are scattered in yards bbc correspondent victoria zhugan was at the scene of the tragedy and this is what she saw this morning parents were taking their children through this yard to the kindergarten and now from the playground the bodies of the dead are being carried out here, the smell of burnt metal or plastic can still be heard, and from the site near the garden, the wreckage of a helicopter. we also saw a charred helmet. residents of these houses describe that in the morning they first heard a rumble, then
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an explosion, and then a red glow lit up the whole sky and later they saw how in the fog and smoke parents and children were trying to escape away from this kindergarten and the people we talked to say that today they felt as if february 24th happened to them again, some families came to see, they say they know the victims and could be in their place, there was fishing and the flag was big and they heard nothing more do you know anyone who works or sent children to kindergarten? i only know the nurse who worked there. they went because she just left the office in the kitchen. well, they will check that she is doing her work and i have their office nearby. with the entrance where fragments of the helicopter hit, her eldest daughter was supposed to go to the lyceum next to the kindergarten, but minutes before leaving she heard an explosion and the little one tells me to find the helicopter and is walking. well, not like usual
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, she says that her husband ran to save the children and workers of the kindergarten a after that i went to work, but at first it was full of circumstances, i just don’t see the child there, eyewitnesses say that parents with children tried to run away from the kindergarten, brought in injured children and that many of them received burns, residents of brovary are brought to the scene of the tragedy flowers and toys, law enforcement officers, rescuers do not stop for a moment, their dead chief denys monastyrskyi himself often worked at the sites of shelling of the russian federation, a very patriotic man did a lot for ukraine, carried out police reform, this is a great tragedy for ukraine, for his family, the minister was a friend of president volodymyr zelenskyi and well known to a number of leaders in the west, today they send their condolences despite the death of the leadership of the ministry of internal affairs of monastyrskyi, his deputy yevhen yenin and state secretary yuriy lubkovych in the president's office assures that this
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will not affect the work of the ministry. of the tragedy, what is known about the accident and its consequences at the moment bbc correspondent viktoriya zhugan is with us on the video link what are the latest data about the tragedy good evening well, you already mentioned the final figure that we heard recently, but i would like to remind you that during the day we heard several different numbers about the dead and injured from officials and officials, from the head of the kyiv ova to the president's office, and it may be that the number you announced is not yet final because people received burns people are hospitalized. therefore, it is possible that the situation can
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change. well, actually, the next question is what is the condition of the victims of the plane crash. what is known about it? maybe you managed to talk to someone with relatives from official information, we know about the numbers people who went to hospitals and about the dead, but probably the general impression of the consequences of this disaster can be described by the phrase of one of my interlocutors, or maybe the interlocutor or it seems that this phrase sounded several times a day burned but alive or burned or alive this is how they described the state their acquaintances or acquaintances, acquaintances , or people whom they saw just from their windows, residents, neighbors with whom i spoke explain that shortly after they heard the explosion, many people ran
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ran to the kindergarten and began to help to evacuate, to get children and workers out of there even before the rescuers arrived, and then they continued to work with the rescuers, and in fact , we do not know now about the number of such people who participated, who helped and perhaps received a minor injury but did not go to the hospitals , because as my the interlocutor whom we quoted earlier, her husband helped there and then just went to work. well, we know that one child died, many more children were injured, so what is the situation with them in what condition they are, we have information about the fact that some of the children were evacuated and those children who were not transported to hospitals. they
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were in a safe place. they have set up such a center for help and information and support for the victims - it is in the lyceum, which is located next to the kindergarten, besides, in this lyceum , offline education has recently started, and in fact, there are kindergartens around these blocks. well, we saw a lot of teenagers who willingly talked to journalists and told that during the training they had already seen the consequences of this explosion and someone said that they were there trying to provide first aid. well, we understand what to say about the causes of the disaster . the investigation is considering what are the three main versions that you have already voiced and in the ukrainian public
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sphere so far there have not been any broader explanations, that is, there are three main versions - it is that there was a technical malfunction in this rotorcraft. another version is that it could have been a mistake when driving the car or it was a deliberate destruction of the vehicle, that is, that someone deliberately damaged and caused this situation. production after a tragedy involving one of the models of this helicopter in 2016, there was a certain technical malfunction that the manufacturer eliminated, but despite this, a number of countries still stopped buying them, and in ukraine, the then minister of the interior avakov continued to purchase uh helicopters of this manufacturer, although not the model that
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actually had the defect, but this version is being announced today not as the version of the investigation and not as the main one . so far , there are no final conclusions and the spokesman of the air force emphasized today that there will not be any in the next day or two because there will be an investigation and usually in plane crashes the investigation lasts quite a long time. the investigator is currently collecting evidence, it is possible that you saw it on the spot somehow this process is taking place , i had the impression that from several blocks away there were a lot of people in uniform. that is, we could identify at least national police officers who literally stood under every entrance on every corner with e
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with a4 papers and talked with people , took notes. we also talked on the spot with representatives of the security service of ukraine, which is investigating this incident and the entire territory, for the whole day. at least a little after four o'clock, all this was fenced off with such tapes, many people were not allowed in unless they were residents of this building, this is a fairly large area on which there was a lot of work , that is, at the same time, people were rescued and evidence was collected. well, just so that you can imagine the scale of what happened not far from the garden there are fragments of metal hanging on the trees. thanks for the video of bbc correspondent victoria shugan about the tragedy in brovary, what is known about the helicopter that crashed in brovary on the air of the
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telethon air force spokesman yuriy ignat noted that it was an airbus h225 super puma. these models have been supplied to ukraine by france since 2018. an agreement with french partners with a total value of 550 million euros was signed by the then minister of internal affairs, arsen avakov, over the next three years, ukraine received 55 super puma helicopters, 21 of which are the h225 model they were handed over to the state emergency service to the border police of the national guard, the state emergency service used these aircraft to extinguish large-scale fires and other emergencies and more we will ask the aviation expert, contact us bohdan dolinze. welcome to the air. airbus h225 super puma. what kind of rotorcraft can you tell us specifically about this model
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, that is, the 225 model? in fact, this is a fairly large and powerful helicopter, if you compare it with soviet helicopters which ones are still used in our country? that is, it is a helicopter of the same class and size as the conventional mi-6 or mi-8. that is, the length of the helicopter is about 20 m and the height is about 5 m. it is capable of lifting a useful weight of about 11 tons. it is actually very a powerful machine is capable of transporting 22 passengers including crew members. this is usually used either for specialized cargo transportation or for transportation in a passenger configuration, that is, it is transported in the cabin, or there are also modifications for the so-called sanitary, that is, for the transportation of sick, wounded or patients who are in a critical condition to the place of assistance well, among the versions of the
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tragedy, the technical reality of the helicopter is voiced in particular, that is how the procedure for checking such aircraft is carried out is it possible to notice these malfunctions before departure? how often are rotorcraft inspected? here, in general, the procedures that take place with helicopters are selected according to the general requirements and operating rules of the manufacturing plant. here they note the various stages of its inspection, that is, in fact. before each flight, the helicopter is not always is it a helicopter? is it an airplane or some other type of beauty? elements, in addition, the captain of the aircraft or the commander himself conducts the inspection automatically and he also has the right to perform any other inspections that he deems appropriate if, in his opinion, there are any problems with the ship
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, he can request an inspection of each individual specific equipment, in addition, if we if we are talking about helicopters or even airplanes, then they have even more complex forms of maintenance checks. that is, this attitude is periodically, once in a while, or once every three months, every six months, or after a certain number of flights in trade winds or the flight of hours, they go through more complex different stages of inspection, it may be the replacement of some equipment, it may be the removal of the inspection test, and then the equipment will be returned if it shows everything correctly . we wait until a specific part breaks or fails, as a rule, in every spare part, because each system has its own so-called resource . and even this somehow applies to the fact that even electronics, that is, conditionally, when it comes e-e operating time, for example, 5,000 hours. this means that certain systems must be removed and replaced with new ones or those
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that have passed the appropriate inspection and certification , and the equipment that was removed is sent to the relevant manufacturing plant, which conducts full diagnostics for the restoration of this equipment and can assign the so-called additional resource, i.e. the new equipment can work for a conditional 5,000 hours after the appropriate e-e inspection and service at the manufacturing plant, he determines that it can still work conditionally thousands of hours, but due to the completion of these flight hours, the equipment must be removed and sent back to the manufacturer's factory or replaced with a similar new one. almost the entire system is built in such a way that each part has its own unique serial number and the time of its operation in the air or the number of landings or calendar days, it is clearly fixed in specialized it systems, as a rule, and no one waits for the details to the authorities, as a rule, even all these checks, routine
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work and technical work. they are completely the same in such a way that the necessary parts can be removed , serviced or replaced, and at the same time , this morning in ukraine there was a strong fog, and even the local residents were talking about it , what is the probability that the rotorcraft could touch the roof of the building, as some suggest. low above the ground, well, look, we see that taking into account the full-scale e-e war of the russian federation, as well as the risk of using certain air defense systems, as a rule, the procedures require certain specialized modes of operation the use of aircraft, including this applies to flights at the so-called low altitude, which guarantees the impossibility of detecting the removed ships of the air defense system, here is the enemy, and of course , were there any factors, weather conditions,
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human factors or other factors that led to aviation disasters now uh, it may be that this version is absolutely the same as any other versions, that's because at least the preliminary investigation must be completed, according to the commission with the events under consideration. as a rule, of course, the deadline is the follow-up can last from several weeks, this is only for previous versions, and if we are talking about a full-fledged investigation with a complete study of the entire chain that leads to an official event, then if it is a victim disaster, then we see that the average term is such the investigation takes from one year, sometimes one and a half or more years. well, in summary, everything is said as briefly as possible. how reliable are these helicopters ? about 30 countries of the world, including both in the
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military e-e various units and in the civilian sector, if we talk in general about the country that exploits, it is mostly the countries of the european union, but at the same time there are e-e countries from other parts of the world, including japan, canada used an ancient helicopter. here it has the appropriate certificates of its e-e admission to use and european certification bodies, including canada, japan and other countries. it is allowed to operate in the united states , that is, to say that this helicopter is not meets certain technical or other characteristics for use in the world, there is no. there is no prohibited use either , and in principle, just during the certification, one or another radiation vessel or equipment proves that e-e from the air is safe in our country, it has the necessary procedures regulations, as well as processes that ensure
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safe functioning, if it turns out that at least some of this technology has one or another flaw from the point of view of design, then as a rule, the use of such technology is generally prohibited in all countries of the world i.e., there were no such prohibitions regarding this helicopter , and there was no talk about the fact that there are any conditions that determined that this helicopter does not meet the general gender requirements for flight safety, everything is done every day, it is not clear , aviation expert bohdan dolin was in touch with us , thank you for a conversation and on an on -board rotorcraft, as we said earlier , denys monastyrskyi was the minister of internal affairs of ukraine. he headed the ministry of internal affairs from 2021, and at the time of his appointment he was 41 years old. before that, monastyrskyi had never worked in the law enforcement system, competent in the field candidate of legal sciences, he had no political experience monastyrsky himself, according to his own words, was the first to inform volodymyr
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zelenskyi on the night of february 24 about the full-scale russian invasion of ukraine, what consequences will the loss of the head have for the ministry of internal affairs, analyzed by pips correspondent svyatoslav khomenko i would say that the appointment of denys monastyrskyi was the most typical and such a characteristic appointment of president zelensky, at least if we are talking about the period before the great monastery war he was young at the time of appointment, he was only 41 years old. he was competent in the field of law, but he was a theory theorist before his appointment . he defended his phd thesis . he taught at the university. he was a recognized legal expert. he participated in the reform of ukrainian law enforcement agencies. enough experience politically. and we remember how important it was for president zelensky back then, who said he was bringing new faces to power, and he replaced another factor in his position er, arsena avakov, who has been in this position since 2014 and is currently one of the
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most powerful people in the country, and here it is worth understanding that if arsena avakov's management style envisaged concentrating his value and powers in one hand, i will remind you that the structure of the ministry of internal affairs belongs to and the national police and the national guard, and the emergency service and the border service, then the management style of the monastery could be written rather as general management, coordination of these departments and the remaining trust in their leaders, in the leaders of these constituent parts the ministry of internal affairs is the same as the minister, he was different when, for example, shortly after his appointment, he conducted a lesson on road safety for children at school, it is impossible to imagine all the roles of arsen avakov, one more factor denys monastyrskyi advocated the legalization of the arms market in ukraine, but after the victory, as he said to imagine to myself such a position from someone from the senior generation of the ministry of internal affairs, well , brother, it is still impossible, and one more interesting fact about denys monastyrsky, in an interview with the washington post at this time, he said what exactly
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on the night of february 24, he told volodymyr zelensky that a full-scale aggression had begun, that russian troops were coming en masse to the ukrainian border, if we are talking about yevgeny yenin, then he was a figure of a completely different nature, actually ensures the existence of the functioning of the state as such in 2002 yevhen yenin graduated from the academy of sp who eventually worked in the special service, then he devoted 10 years to a diplomatic career, and then in 2016 he became the deputy prosecutor general and as a former diplomat, he was responsible for the international cooperation of the prosecutor general's office after his dismissal from the prosecutor general's office yevhen worked at all in the structure of the ministry of foreign affairs, he was a deputy minister, and shortly after the appointment of denys monastyrskyi, he joined his team. it is clear that the new head of the ministry of internal affairs will need some time, it will take more or less time to enter mainly due to the fact that we are talking about a structure that has hundreds of thousands of members, this is, as i
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said, several extremely important departments at once, but now nothing indicates that the system of internal affairs bodies and state power in general is in some kind of critical danger, even despite the whole terrible tragedy, and the fact that it was klymenko who now became acting minister shows that right now for the ukrainian authorities it is not about the logic of peacetime when the minister of the largest law enforcement is the head of the largest the law enforcement body of ukraine could become, for example, a person from the topic and or some political appointee will form the department, at least now, a person in uniform, a person from whom it will be primarily the performance of such a basic law enforcement function, and not, let's say, pr, even if it is very necessary, and at this time, klymenko, you are a person who is different from monastyrskyi and videmin , he is a person from the mia system and blood from blood and krut from flesh, even though he came there 25 years ago from the army he is the general of the police, he forms the national police, i.e. the largest branch of the ministry of internal affairs since 2019,
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he was not associated with any high-profile scandals or political ambitions. if we are talking about who can become the next head of the ministry of internal affairs, then here it is necessary to understand that we are entering the cosine of speculations, moreover, they are not entirely correct, we just lost minister monastyrsky today, we can only think about the logic of the next appointment, maybe someone from the team of denys monastyrsky, who was aware of the affairs of this department , will become the minister and we are ready to pick up on this at the far end of the dniester. it is possible to get rid of ihor klymenko in this appointment. perhaps the new minister will become some political activity. we can recall that before denys monastyrska was appointed a minister, he was the head of a specialized committee of the parliament , now this committee on law enforcement is headed by serhii ivanushas, a deputy from the people's servant, and it has long been said about him that he can change the deputy's chair to the position of the executive power, not just any
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a completely unexpected appointment in one word let's be frank, the answer to the question of who will be the next minister can only be given by volodymyr zelenskyi because formally the candidate of the next minister should be submitted to the parliament by the prime minister well, but we all understand that positions of such a caliber and such a scale must be created by the proposals of volodymyr zelenskyi in today's conditions in today's ukraine . there are several directions in war, and every death is the result of war. the tragedy in brovary, the president of ukraine spoke at the world economic forum in davos , zelenskyi began his address to the participants with a moment of silence in memory of all those whose lives were taken by the tragedy and every day the war is taking away and he answered the host's question about whether he is worried about his safety after the incident in brovary, the
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support for ukraine in the war with russia will continue indefinitely, however, he did not answer the question about the possible supply of german leopard tanks. should transfer western-style battle tanks to ukraine if it asks for it, official berlin is still delaying this, and already in tomorrow's issue we will talk in more detail about the economic forum in davos, what are they saying about ukraine, how does russia's war against ukraine affect the
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