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rotorcraft, the mayor of the city, ihor sapozhko, said that the plane crash in brovary took the lives of 14 people, not the 17th - not the 18th, as previously reported, this is updated data from the state emergency service as of 3:45 p.m., according to the information of the state emergency service, one child was among the dead, earlier there were reports of three and even four of the dead children, it is reported that 25 people were injured, including 11 children , the search and rescue work was completed, the state emergency service announced today that during the day, information about the dead and injured was contradictory and they differed, perhaps by the end of the day, they will still be updated we will follow up to find out. well, for now we have a video. it is probably the first seconds after the helicopter fell in brovary. the
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rotorcraft of the state emergency service with the leadership of the ministry of internal affairs on board had an accident in a residential quarter of the city of brovary. this morning, the helicopter fell near a kindergarten and a residential high-rise building. all nine were killed. at the beginning, updated data of ten people who were in the helicopters were reported, including the minister of internal affairs denys monastyrskyi, his deputy yevgeny yenin and the state secretary of the department yuriy lubkovych, the causes of the accident are currently unknown. the sbu is considering three versions of the violation of flight rules, a technical malfunction of the helicopter, deliberate actions to destroy the vehicle . already to our broadcast of roksolana, please join the broadcast of svoboda live roksolana, what is the situation in brovary, do you
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have a word, hello, please, the situation in brovary, next, the rescuers have already finished school rescue operations are currently underway here, utility workers are eliminating the consequences of the morning plane crash . actually the frame of this helicopter, this is the upper part of them in the morning during the day when we were working here, we saw that the screw from the rotor fell off the entrance itself, now it has already been removed and lo in front of our eyes, they continue to remove the last remnants of this upper part , because we understand that from the impact on the building of the kindergarten, one part of the helicopter
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fell in the yard of the kindergarten, and the other, the upper part, where the screws are, fell here near the residential building and caught one of entrances ago, right now they are actually continuing to eliminate the consequences of this plane crash. well, in the morning, it was first reported about 15 , then about 16. well, in the end, about 14.5. 14 i apologize to the dead, including one child. they also reported on the wounded, in particular, in the brovarsky district hospital, the head doctor told us that 24 people were taken to the hospital, and among them, some of these people were taken to kyiv. they mostly treat burns and sores, as the head
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doctor told us. well, he also told us that there were also sick and injured people who were in a serious condition. we can listen to the head doctor. one father and a d- d- a girl. this is a difficult family. they are uh-year-old girls. five well, they are sitting like that, four, four, six years old, well, they are younger, and one girl with her mother and another child were without parents, guardianship, sadna , and some of the wounds were sewn up. -e reactions because we have these couple of children. we put them in the neurosurgery department because there was a reevaluation. well, there were nausea, vomiting, like a concussion . well, now they have already had static therapy there, they are now resting, it is a normal phenomenon, they walk there, but they are under supervision for a day or two so that in principle such
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threats to life, i am not the one who left us, there will be no one in the meantime, people continue to refuse flowers, candles and toys, because there was a child among the dead, at first they reported about three dead children, then the data was clarified and it turned out that in fact one child died, because it was a kindergarten and the kindergarten started its work at eight in the morning, and the tragedy happened at approximately 8:20 a.m. 15 years ago, just as the children were having breakfast. and here are the people. this is how the dead are buried. well, how was the day here today? what happened during the day ? see in the next material just
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at 8:10 somewhere we sat the children down to eat. about four of them. only today i sat down the children to eat and heard a goal. i look at the glass and at our roof. well, it is visible from this side on the roof. but he touched us and i saw only he was sticking out and he flew on. i fell on the floor and the kindergarten started to burn and i closed the windows, grabbed the children, we ran to the basement but i knew there were people there and we were already in the basement let's send men here who ran to us help to evacuate the children from that part of the kindergarten building, this is the part of the
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kindergarten building from which the fire started, according to eyewitnesses, the rotorcraft touched the building . well, then the fire started and took the child away as soon as i left the kindergarten. this was the other side and here a helicopter appears and i see him flying like this, you can say over the school like that, from there to there like that, he flies straight and i'm like that well, just not to the kindergarten, just not to the kindergarten and he lands, he lands right in the center of the kindergarten and falls there. it was very scary. well, i ran i even went to the group on the second floor to look for the child. i didn’t find them. everything was in smoke, i searched everything, realized that he wasn’t there and already, well, the neighboring group had already started to burn. that is, this is a completely different side of the kindergarten and it has already started
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to burn. everything will be. thank god, my child is already they had time to get down from the basement because it was very close. i was taking my granddaughter to school and we just left. we were probably somewhere at 8:05 or 8:07 and they were flying right over our heads. i thought it was a jet plane and it was flying and literally. well here we get meters 500 maybe less and such an explosion such an explosion and fire and very high somewhere above this building rose 12 floors and everything smokes everything he sees immediately he came there to the kindergarten i was waiting for him at home waiting for me not to say what can i do to help him then mom i went out into the street
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and started bringing my children to my house. i don't know what to do with them. your teacher is there. her head was broken in the back. there was blood on ogurtsov for five more . i gave first aid. helped the children they treated me with peroxide, gave me bandages, gave me candy, calmed me down, wrote down the names, found the parents, uh, my mother ran in. well, the emotions were simple. that the rotorcraft fell between a kindergarten and a residential building in the city of brovary, we can say that there were nine people on board the rotorcraft belonging to the state emergency service, among them the leadership of the ministry
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of internal affairs, all the services of the national police, the state emergency service, the prosecutor's office of the russian federation and the sbu are working and we are establishing the reasons for the helicopter crash. the cabinet of ministers at an extraordinary meeting today appointed the head of the national police igor klymenko to perform the duties of the minister of internal affairs. we will talk about this in more detail today. a working group to control the investigation. this was announced by prime minister denys shmagal . raid, and the sbu stated that among the versions of the tragedy, a violation of flight rules, a technical malfunction and deliberate actions to destroy the vehicle. well, if we talk about the dead who were on board the helicopter and, in addition to the three heads of the ministry of internal affairs, minister denys monastyrskyi, his deputy yevgeny yenin, and state secretary of the department yuriy lubkovich on board the helicopter rotorcraft also died tetyana
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shutyak, she was the deputy head of the patronage service of the ministry of internal affairs of ukraine, also mykhailo pavlushko. he was the head of the department of protection provision of the department of internal affairs of the security of the national police of ukraine , mykola and anatska and an employee of the department of communication of the ministry of internal affairs, a photographer, on the pages of the deceased in social networks, friends leave memories of them and sympathize with their loved ones . well, in addition, three crew members died : pilots oleksandr vasylenko, kostiantyn kovalenko and ivanka syanov, the head wrote about it dsns serhiy kruk and i will now quote more information about one more deceased, it is reported on the official website of the ministry of internal affairs, it is specified that ten people died, including an older commissioner for particularly important matters of the department of internal security andriy marinchenko andriy marinchenko the helicopter was flying to one of the hot spots of ukraine where hostilities are ongoing, deputy head of the president's office kyrylo tymoshenko said today,
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later the chief of police in the kharkiv region, volodymyr tymoshko, said that the plane with the leadership of the ministry of internal affairs was headed precisely in kharkiv oblast , anton gerashchenko, adviser to the minister of internal affairs of ukraine, joins our broadcast by phone, my congratulations and condolences to you because you knew denys monastyrskyi very closely and you worked with him in the ministry and the rest of the staff where you also knew thank you, this is a huge loss for families , for friends, for ukraine, it is a huge loss for the president and for the party, a servant of the people and because denis monastyrskyi evgeny is yury yanukovych, they were the support of the president from the first day of the war, they did everything possible to protect ukraine on their own , they put a huge
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at this time we cannot speak with precision about all the details of what happened when we were necessarily established by the ministry for a year working in normal mode, although of course many people whom the minister knew personally for a thousand employees when he awarded before started my heart is very sad but our struggle continues and ihor kornenko, performing duties between the minister of affairs somewhere, will now do everything possible so that we multiply all the good things that denis monastyrskyi started , he is our whole team p gerashchenko and how are you what do you think about this disaster in the context of that? and what could have caused it? how could this happen? what does it look like? i don't want to guess because, well, there's no need to give when there are black boxes. i don't know at the scene of the disaster. there are witness statements. there are video recordings. different and that is why now all this is being compared will be determined exactly what it is that is why i do not want
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to do it now of course if there were no two places i would not have flown helicopters to the front and started also did not happen in this case the consequences of the linguistic war will remain but were there in the background war again, did the leadership of the ministry of internal affairs have enemies or did someone want to destroy them, you know , every day when the minister was in his department, the ministry of your affairs, it was every day i could list the rocket as it converts such , that is why the destruction of the place of internal affairs and all those who protect our enemies want ukraine, or should we review the security protocols for senior officials after that, so that, for example, the minister and his deputies do not stay together or fly together? we know that in many countries of the world, well, for the highest state leaders have such rules or should they be
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introduced in ukraine, i can say that we did not have such security protocols before and now i think this tragedy will be the very fact in order to make such protocols for the minister and the first deputies did not fly together as it would be it is correct for the safety and control of such important ministries to say this about the changes that took place in the system of the ministry of internal affairs while it was headed by denys monastyrskyi, first of all i wanted to say that the man from monastyrskyi was very an honest and open person, absolutely executed, never heard of any corruption. ministry between injuries, crystals , years, no investigation, etc., well, a professional professional lawyer, never violated
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the law. what challenges or even risks does this tragedy pose for the ministry during the war, is there a threat that there will be any gaps in the work of this institution when it performs a very important role in the defense of the country, i repeat once again that the ministry is fully committed to acting as minister ihor kovanenko knows very well the entire structure of the ministry of internal affairs and cooperates with the leadership of the border service of the national guard of the emergency services, therefore absolutely this decision of the president of the prime minister of the cabinet of ministers is very correct, therefore there will be no problems here. a problem for hygiene and lyudkovich and childhood monastyrskyi, this was the future generation of ukrainian statesmen who were very professional, who took and did what was necessary, what do you think
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why, why? to carry out the duties of the minister of the national police, and not, for example, one of their deputy ministers. it seems that there were five denis monastyrskyi well, they are deputy ministers. i think that the presidents, the prime ministers, they considered that the appointed games klymenko will be the most losing. i from i thank you very much for your comment. anton gerashchenko, advisor to the minister of internal affairs of ukraine, was on radio svoboda.
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so far, we have no information about the missing children, where the identification work is being carried out, all the children are now in another educational institution, the relevant services are working with them, the parents are also coming there, lists are being compiled, so far there is no such information about the disappeared as missing, but the investigation work continues er, directly zavaliv pulled out three children aged 6-7 years old from there in the kindergarten and
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helped them, and then he called me and said that i had passed, there were a lot of cars, they were obstructing the passage with plot devices and we helped them we greeted the cars and rearranged them. well, to come, we gave them candy, calmed them down, wrote down the names of the leadership and employees of the ministry of internal affairs. there are those who died in the plane crash in brovary. they flew a super puma helicopter with the serial number 54. what is known about these rotorcraft? the manufacturer and supplier of super puma helicopters is france. super puma is capable . carry up to 24 passengers, excluding pilots, according to the spokesman of the air force of the armed forces of ukraine, yuriy ignat, these helicopters were transferred to ukraine in 2018, then as part of an agreement over 500 million euros ukraine was supposed
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to receive, among other things, 21 super puma helicopters well, as david cenciotti writes, he is an italian, a well-known italian journalist specializing in aviation issues, and he writes that the first two super puma helicopters arrived in ukraine on december 20, 2018 after major repairs and modernization in romania, how many aircraft are currently delivered is unknown, he writes, but he says that it is known that as of december 2021, ukraine had 10 such rotorcraft in service, in particular, four from the guard and another six from the state emergency service. i would like to remind you that among the versions of the causes of the disaster, the sbu is considering a technical malfunction of the helicopter , including the aviation expert bohdan dolinze, who is in touch with us. good evening, my greetings. bohdan, tell me how plausible the version about the technical malfunction of the helicopter seems to you as a specialist and deserves a dovirus. in general, draw conclusions which may be in the door, this may
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be one of the working versions, here are the real authors who caused it, it will probably be more precisely understood within a few days, maybe a week, if we proceed from the general statistics in the world, a technical malfunction is usually the cause of ten dashes 15% of all plane crashes. that is, it is such a small part of all disasters that occur in the world. 10-15%, you say it is a technical malfunction . it is known specifically about them because today i had to read a lot of information, in particular, that in some countries of the world they have not proven themselves very well , that some countries have temporarily or permanently refused to use them, as far as all this corresponds if we talk specifically about this model, that is, it means the
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superkuma 225, it is quite a large helicopter . to date, there have been more than 171 of them manufactured there. they have been making all the helicopters for almost how many years, 15 will soon be 20 years. how it is mass-produced . that's it. if we talk about the operators, today it is operated by more than 30 countries of the world , about 15 countries use it in the quality of civil aircraft, and about 10-15 of these countries use it specifically in the defense security sector that is, it is a military application, it is an application in specialized services , for example, in the same fire service and emergency services. that's it. if we talk about specific countries that use it, it is mainly the european union country, but in addition to them, there is also everything for operators and airlines from japan and canada that is, we are talking
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about the fact that this is a fairly common helicopter in the world. here it has the appropriate certificates that confirm the safety of its use in accordance with these regulations from the point of view of flight safety and aviation requirements and regulations and not only in the european union, because we see that since they are used in japan and canada, that is, they meet the relevant norms and requirements of the legislation of these countries, if we are talking about canada, then in principle these are almost similar requirements to the legislation of the american civil aviation administration, that is technically, there is no reason to believe that this helicopter or specifically this model is somehow worse or less safe, now the time of operation in general is almost 20 years, this court is aware of only four incidents. in fact this is the fifth with this aircraft 5 - it's not enough, well, just for understanding, i don't know
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what the statistics are in general, there can't be too many or too few if the aircraft is proven, for example, that it is dangerous to perform of flights, for example, as everyone remembers, even before kavid, there was a situation when several planes of the most modern modification of the boyang airline were hit by the authorities, as disasters are connected with certain aircraft control systems, and then for almost a year and a half the plane was completely suspended from operation and while the manufacturer's plant is after the completion of the investigation and the event, all airlines in the world have suspended operation, all identified technical problems have been eliminated, a completely new certification has been carried out, and in fact, it was already there during the beginning of the pandemic from 19 this aircraft was actually returning to service from the point of view of
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flight performance. that is, it is absolutely very regulated, it is clear the procedure if there is any negative component in any aircraft. is it an airplane or is it helicopter that can pose a threat to flight safety, in fact all the operating countries stop operating this aircraft , we see that with regard to this helicopter, in principle, it continues to be operated there not only in ukraine, but also in other countries of the world where it was supplied, that is, in the plan of some e- is that this helicopter is somehow different from other helicopters today, it is not necessary to say well, i am also here just i want to add that this helicopter has been repeatedly engaged for transportation and it is difficult the wounded and also for the transportation of the first persons of the state, as i am talking now about ukraine , it was actively used before this and even during the war, in particular, everything is correct, everything
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is absolutely correct, in principle, if we are talking about helicopters, the state emergency service, then this is a very targeted skewer can be used in completely different situations, it can be the transportation of seriously injured or critically ill patients, it can be the transportation, for example, of certain biological materials from the donor to the patient for an urgent transfer, here are the helicopters of this airline, that is, the emergency services, but there are fewer types, they can generally be used for landing on specialized positions , for example, such equipment on the roofs of hospitals in order to very quickly deliver patients directly to the intensive care unit or deliver appropriate materials for, for example , conducting organ transplants, which in principle have been quite actively used in ukraine for several years to save lives, in
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addition, these helicopters are also involved in of specialized tasks, that is, it is an aerial search, for example, detection or use against certain fire-affected areas , that is, a helicopter can lift up to 11 tons of useful weight, it can be equipped not only with medical equipment, it can use other useful types of equipment that allow it to be used how many targeted and not only conditionally there is an evacuation or medical helicopter bohdane well, then you know the question, this tragedy well, as always, it provoked a lot of discussions in social networks, someone says that now everyone the second user on the social network turned into an expert on aviation issues because people began to describe and research and make some preliminary conclusions, saying that somehow he did not fly like that, he somehow did not fall like that, he should not have flown there at all or should have flown there and the
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mig helicopter made an emergency landing but for some reason he didn’t do it . let’s say from what you saw in open sources, well, there is a video of this helicopter flying over the breweries . what you have seen and heard so far from open sources. yes, look at the information that has been available from open sources so far. unfortunately , it does not allow identifying the specific cause of the radiation event. led precisely to the fall of the helicopter because, in principle, these were voiced by the security services of ukraine, the bases and scenarios that are currently being studied . there it falls under any scenario, that is, it can be both internal and external factors
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