what is quickly adequate and british, including tanks, will enter ukrainian soil , the president of poland spoke in favor of providing a nato security guarantee to ukraine, and andrzej duda supported ukraine, supported our president, and at the economic forum in davos, what are these now there may be security guarantees while we are outside the bloc from nato, well , first of all, it is important that we can in principle receive these guarantees from nato and enter into a conversation with such a conversation by the alliance itself, why i emphasize this because ten points of our peace the president is actually talking about the north-agnostic alliance, but only about several countries, and it seems to me that there is a mistake in this, because we are always looking for a format for ourselves at a time when this format has been ready for a long time and it should not be planted, it should be pushed and finally finally to find in

this understanding that only a single shoeless umbrella can be under the umbrella of another ancient alliance, no others that will not work with budapest and did not work and even more so it will be difficult and in principle difficult well there 2-3 countries to take on the same guarantees. we will always know that it is like this from side to side. yes, there is a zombuffer zone , and the european friends and partners themselves speak about it directly. and they also saw it only within the framework of the alliance, but we understand well in why does this guarantee mean that article five an attack on one country provides for the response of all god willing someday 31 with ukraine and this means that this attack is not only on one state is happening all this is actually what should be and consists of the biggest guarantee eh security in our case, when they have a commercial war, although unfortunately, it is currently difficult to talk with the alliance of communication with our active military military and military actions ms.

solomiya thank you for this conversation on our air solomiya bobrovska was on the air of espresso people's deputy of ukraine of the profile committee on issues of national security, deputy head of the council delegation to the nato parliamentary assembly next, we will talk with andrii smoly, political expert, international lawyer, mr. andriyu i welcome you to our broadcast hello good evening glory to ukraine glory to the heroes well, if you heard a little bit of our conversation, now there are many statements from different countries about the announced aid packages. we are waiting for heavy weapons. what are your impressions of the last days and expectations? they didn't give us for many months, only we asked for it, i'm already silent about spring, but summer and autumn, in particular, there are heavy weapons, in particular

, bmp tanks appear very often now, we are talking about certain types of missiles , in particular, with a certain range, then i would say in general, what are the messages, the messages and the information that we will receive today, it is rather positive, it is even very positive, we see how in fact some states are even competing with each other, who will we say, who will deliver or promise us some kind of weapon sooner? well, tanks are generally separate in principle we see history now in essence as the same poland, for which we give them a huge thank you, it is simply great, it is literally fighting with its teeth, it is literally gnawing at us tanks, which in the end i still think the federal republic will agree to supply germany to our partners who have become a mountain today. i see it politically and on any international platforms,

including in the same davos. well, i just kneel down to thank them. tell me about germany, do you know this position? perhaps due to their internal politics and, in principle, geopolitics, germany for many months could not get out of the coordinate system that you attacked, which was built not exactly for years, but probably tens of years , since the time of gerhard schroeder, a completely different model was being built there, and in principle even the steps that germany is taking as of today, they have already moved forward from the coordinate system that was being built, but less, but we understand that smith has changed . they are late, but one way or another i am somehow

convinced that the situation will change in a week or two and the situation will change in our favor because, well, many countries are already asking for it. clearly said that some types of weapons, in particular , tanks, they are ready to put there even without germany's consent, if she exerts this pressure, this is a political demonstration, you know in the end if it will happen, uh, in fact, why in principle is poland doing it, poland understands that if she does it, it is for germany this will be a political blow because, more than anything, the germans will want to preemptively act here and definitely give permission for the supply of the weapons that ukraine and the whole world are asking for from them today, mr. andriy about the tribunal let's talk about the tribunal for putin, accordingly, the resolution was adopted today in the european parliament, uh, this

special tribunal should be created in order for russia to answer for its crimes and there also for lukashenka, not only for putin well, the first step should be the creation of an international special prosecutor's office what does this resolution practically mean for us well, let's say frankly that the european parliament is more of a political body, it's more of a body that doesn't create something that doesn't produce something and it's more like this a declarative political body that demonstrates a position and here, um, i understand that, in principle, as of today, it is too early to talk about any real mechanisms, but let's look even at the figures that the european parliament demonstrated today. 472 members of the european parliament voted for this resolution and only 19 were

against 33 you will receive that is, it demonstrates that, in principle, we are no longer what we are half a step away from pressing the situation , pressing the decision on the creation of this special prosecutor's office and, in principle, special of the tribunal as such, this is demonstrated by the concert, but if you look at the cross-section of the states in principle , it demonstrates the consensus that even the absolute majority of 90%+ of states and politicians on the territory of the european union are ready to speak clearly. we as europe must create a specialized prosecutor 's office . should accordingly prepare all the possibilities for holding such a special tribunal, and the most important thing in all of this is that today they really started talking about lukashenka and belarus, because before you know, they tried to bypass this

situation, to bypass these persons, but today they are actually putin's partners, partners of the russian criminal terrorist army. also, i think they will not be bypassed anymore, and this is also a very important signal, of course. the european commission should work as much as possible with these results, work with these data and of course, the leaders of the european states must still be going to talk about it and work out some kind of mechanism in accordance with the european regional law in accordance with how is international law to really come to the point of creating this essentially special court, but the fact that it is very necessary today for a security structure in the world

is that criminals must be punished and that there must be some legal solution, the main thing is not just political, but legal from the side of civilized states i think today no one knows about this, and the european parliament clearly demonstrated this today, so far this is a political decision, but how to get to the legal one, after all, what kind of court will it be, who will it be on the basis of, what will it be created based on the opinion the minister of foreign affairs of germany, there should be representatives from different countries , prosecutors, judges, and this court should be outside of ukraine. in your opinion, when will this court be created , and physically, where? today, the political signal must continue to work. the european commission and the governments of the european states must really work to reach a

certain consensus on what needs to be created . that russia has committed, that putin has committed and that the russian federation has committed on the territory of ukraine. that is, we are talking about what is actually quite a lot of links and this chain in order to reach, in principle, at least some initial court hearings. in my opinion, we will be frank on it takes a minimum of months, first of all, to really create such a structure, to create such a body that you were engaged in, for this you need consensus, for this you need decisions within the european union, and then , accordingly, such a prosecutor's office must

investigate and must work with those data and those with those array of crimes committed by russia, of course unequivocally. we must understand that such and such a prosecutor's office and such a special tribunal will work outside the borders of ukraine. it will work everywhere or be based in one of the states of the european union. which state is it ? must come to this in the european commission and, accordingly, come already to the meetings of the heads of governments or the heads of the ministry of foreign affairs, as is often the case with other issues, and then , accordingly, this special prosecutor's office will to work in some country, which country is it ? well, here we are not going to judge or predict, because this decision will be made later, but we will be honest that it will not be quick. european bureaucracy , unfortunately, it is such a rather heavy

machine that he starts his work for a very long time, so i say it again. i think that we should count on months and this is a minimum . andriy. thank you very much for this conversation. you explained all these points to us. andriy smolii, political expert, international lawyer. we talked about the tribunal for putin, let us remind you that today such a resolution was adopted in the european parliament well, for now this is a political decision thank you andrii smoliya and oleksiy kucherenko i invite you to the conversation we welcome you on our air e p oleksia christ is baptized i congratulate you i welcome you in the yorda river so many events i read read yours, this is such a hot post about the dismissal. oh my god , your dismissal is about kobolev. please tell me what you still don't agree with. the only thing i will

remind our viewers is that the ex-head of naftogaz of ukraine, if you remember andriy kobolev was such a person in our country, we were informed of the suspicion, he is accused of embezzling almost 230 million hryvnias, they informed nabu, well, these are illegally assigned awards, so we understand, because the awards were actively discussed in the media . oleksiy, what is wrong with the suspicion? you are criticizing , let's be serious. something happened, well , you understand that i, the team and the driver personally, since the 15th year, we tried to prove to society that the support of the kobelyaks is essentially an advantage and that way where did they drag the nak naftogaz, it led not only to colossal failures and losses, it also led to enormous damage to the energy security of the country, because i am now the head of a temporary special commission specifically on energy security, we are investigating this issue and we know practically everything, we have

handed over all the materials to the law enforcement agencies and the government, and now look, they won't satisfy me. he took office for 8.5 years. he came in the 14th year. they wrote out a bonus for themselves by the board in the 18th year. see how much there is, 200 e-e 216, where it seems there is a million million hryvnias, that's what they shared tell me, please. we have the right to investigate such things for five years. well, how can the state be competitive, how can the projectivity of law enforcement agencies speak if five and a half years have passed, he made an example of himself in may 18. nabu that it is illegal , they are based on the results of the audit, which was actually conducted by the state at our request, now it

will be the third time more than once, and the state has admitted that the premium was illegally calculated, that is, there is an evidentiary basis in nabu and usap, and there is usap, and i hope they will prove these and deduct from kobolev from all other members of the board, this amount is much more, but i draw attention to other states as well. my grandfather did a second audit in the 21st year for the period of 19-20 years. i have the results of the commission in the hands of four hundred pages of this study and the conclusion of 75 billion uah not paid to the budget by nak naftogaz, this is the kobolev period. by the way, 226 billion uah of inefficiently used funds, why is

the case not opened here ? 75 billion direct underpayment of the budget is the conclusion of the state auditor - i did not come up with this, you understand, and that is why there is, uh, no, there is a hole 226 billion that were not paid into the budget, there is a great damage to energy security, which you say, but he is suspected for the award for stockholm arbitration , which he can in principle appeal, he has already sued for this award with the state auditor, the labor service, the courts, the state service recognized that the award is illegal, so it seems to me that nabu and sad should definitely deal with this award, but what prevents them from moving on and find an answer to the question where is our huge money, which we paid for you, the increase in gas production is not so to speak, why did not

this increase occur, but its reduction occurred, and why is the budget paying off these debts now, this is the law that was adopted in the summer , the scandalous law of 203 billion hryvnias we put in the budget the deputies at the request of naftogaz and the government to pay off these debts from the budget, in fact, you understand. crazy other suspicions. after this performance, yes, listen to you and include, but you said a very important thing. don't joke anymore, because now, in the conditions of war , energy security is a key issue. and this is already an article, or is such an accusation very serious? how could they be released abroad? 8.5 years, and whoever is doing it will rake it now, fortunately, it is a damage to energy security, can you

explain to us in simple words very quickly, look, if ukraine were to raise the issue, the state campaign of the subsidiary of nak naftogaz produced 20 billion cubic meters of gas, as they promised when it started program 20 in the 20th or 16th year, we raised the price of gas, then groysman's government did it in order to increase it, if we were to extract this gas at all now, there would be no problems with work, you understand, well, there were minimal ones, and now it produces in ukraine, not 20, but 13 billion 12.5 cubic meters of commercial gas, and we don’t have enough gas, and that’s why chernyshov managed to agree with the current head of naftogaz to buy this gas at $800 for $1,000 per 1,000 cubic meters. that is, this is a direct loss, a direct damage to the state and a shortage of gas that we may not feel because it is very warm this winter today, you understand, coal also provides insurance, but

unfortunately, i guarantee you that for the future the heating season, because there will be problems with russia, we will have problems with gas , and this is directly related to the failure of this 20x20 program, so i definitely guarantee you that i, as the head of the temporary special commission , we will investigate it, we will prove it, we will hand it over to the national security council, the sbu in nabu, but i want to finally punish the adventurers, as for 8.5 years they milked huge sums and fooled the whole nation. in accordance with colossal problems and without budgetary support, he cannot live, he does not help us, but we help naftogaz not to become bankrupt. by the way, in technical default, that is, bankrupt. here is another consequence of work, but i want to ask another question besides kobolev,

but when something happens, there is always someone baptizes what is happening or silence or kindness, who else should be responsible for this is what you say for the damage to energy security, let's track this story kobolev was formally hired by yatsenyuk's government in the 14th year without a competition without this is it the 14th year, then in the 16th year groysman already extended the contract with him and the price of gas - this is the groysman government on april 28, but there is one more question and from kobolev in the 20th year for four years the government already extended the contract of the galya press without competition without audi after this extension for four years, kobolev worked for one year, then the government realized that you were adventurism, he fired him, you know how much and what damage under the contract was compensated by nak naftogaz. what do you

think, what is the figure for the compensation of mares 218 221 million kobolivs sign naftogaz charged for the fact that he was fired, but why was it a mistake to appoint him? no, that's why i believe that the supervisory board voted at least politically, because it is a collective irresponsibility that led to very serious threats to the energy industry of ukraine . by the supervisory board, the supervisory radik so far , because it is being formed, only as far as i know, the competition was held, and moreover, those members of the supervisory board who worked in the previous, the same infamous clears, then the chairman of the supervisory board , applied for the competition

the council that sanctified all decisions from koboliv , she still works like this. sorry for the sadomasochism and if the supervisory board, but during the war, why do we need an independent supervisory board with imported members? nak naftogaz as for the financial condition, thanks to the budget entrepreneur, it is more or less stable. i will purchase gas through imports, because we do not have enough . and actually as a result of such a policy, here is the picture for you. it is not very optimistic, and i hope that the chernyshov plan understands

this. how much is there? 400 60 million euros is a restructuring that did not take place last year's scandal when the support really wanted to pay this money, but it was not there, you understand, and as a result it fell into technical default although all state companies and ukrzaliznytsia and ukrenergo restructured their financial obligations in the same way as nouns, one nak naftogaz really wanted to pay this money, you understand, that's why it is separate due to this default . we will listen to him. well, it seems to me that he understands what he is doing. we are ready to support him as much as possible, but there definitely cannot be such a system as there was to turn a blind eye to the hopes of the leadership of naftogaz.

then let's find out, it's gone. oh, everything is bad, everything. i thank you very much for this conversation on our air. oleksiy kucherenko, people's deputy of ukraine, about the suspicion that the exes handed over to the head of the naks- nak naftogaz andriy kobolev and andriy melchenko is already joining the air , this is the leader atlant psychological support center andrii, i congratulate you. congratulations. please tell me about the rehabilitation of the military that you are engaged in, what is currently the main part of your work and we will now receive mobile groups in all major cities of ukraine and now the work is very different from what happened during the ato because, unfortunately, the whole system was previously built on what it expected when a person reaches the final stage of post-traumatic stress development in order to do something about it later, and we are training groups that work between rotations in order to be a fighter

already now it was possible to gather specialists who work and solve the issue of panic attacks and their social arrangements, and when boys appear in flashbacks or negative feelings caused by stress in the war, everything is resolved and a lot of boys managed to return to without waiting for them to be sent to the hospital and treated for a long time and seriously, it was suggested to do it much faster because the help was provided on time. and very often, the boys literally need someone who knows them and knows how to listen to them, when they break through, they need a person who knows how to do it and it really, really helps. well, besides, it helps families, because the wife, for example , doesn't understand, doesn't know what to do, how to do it professionally, and those whom we teach can do it, and that's how we bring the boys

back into the ranks and we help families we are very, very much reducing the main thing. our task is to reduce this percentage of the onset of post-traumatic stress disorder, and right now this, uh, post-traumatic stress disorder. it seems to threaten absolutely everyone. it is clear that the military, first of all, but many people find themselves in critical situations. teach us , because everyone has someone there at the front. someone writes to someone, i want to support them. well, to be honest , i also have friends, acquaintances, sometimes you don't even know what to write, how to listen properly, like elementary things, but you say that you need to be able to listen properly, like to communicate correctly in order to support a person and to make it easier for him, it is very important for families and civilians to understand that in the military , his state of consciousness and world perception change a lot, it is built around security, unlike civilians, in whom the world

is still mostly about life , they are satisfied and so next is the military world, which is built around security. it is necessary to have a special attitude towards it, that's why civilians simply support civilians. they say that we believe in the armed forces. you are our well-wishers. you are our heroes. everyday simple things, but not to overload with unnecessary emotions, this is very important because in the military world, excessive emotions are a danger, that's why i, because now many viewers are watching, so that you understand with unnecessary emotions, you can literally actually kill your boyfriends, sons, or your daughters with unnecessary emotions, because you you are overloading him, you say oh, i can’t, i don’t know how to hang the curtain oh, and i have a problem here a-a and now he has to go to battle and you

screw him up, he will go under bullets, he will make more mistakes because you are because civilians maybe they screwed him up with unnecessary emotions , but you don't need to do this, simple communication , support, we believe in you and this is what is needed, if guys want to break through and they start talking, they really need people who can listen and can withstand it. very often they, um, don't speak out to their family because they feel that their wife or mother is close to them and cannot bear all this information, and here we really need specialists in our center. we provide free help for military personnel and their families . er, chatbot in telegram, apply, leave an application, and our psychologists pick up the application and respond to it, please, this is so that

you can tell someone about it to civilians , if you need help, it is better to contact or redirect, here, send the guys to us, and you yourself just support and look for everything in telegram if you need to talk, get rid of excess emotions, talk out negativity, atlant in telegram, and some other recommendations for civilians who also now very often find themselves in very critical situations, how not to make mistakes, how to stay bright, intelligent, and there are two parts to this question, the first one relates directly to stress as such , when people get into a stress zone and there are three points that we can influence, this is breathing, breathing control, because when adrenaline is released, cortisol, it affects many different systems, but for example, we cannot we can directly influence the heartbeat or

pressure, but we can influence breathing, that is, we breathe deeper, more deeply, we breathe more calmly, this is the first , second, tunnel vision. in stress, a person sees only what scares him, and is fixated on it, and as if hypnotized by it, expand, divert attention to the periphery or if you are helping someone, just change the topic, change your gaze to something, this is the second moment and the third moment, or imagine the body. sensations and the third moment - it's just drink tea, eat cookies, turn on digestion and thereby switch to the parasympathetic nervous system, which will extinguish stress is during stress, but after stress , when it has already occurred, if we refer to the british system that is used in the british army, it is not grimber, what system did he develop