tv [untitled] January 19, 2023 10:00pm-10:31pm EET
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hmm, hopes of the west to re-educate russia, i.e. , to force it to act by, to play by their rules. that is, there is an understanding, but the understanding that, in principle, now is a moment when putin’s alternative operation and transplanted victories of ukraine are all there is not yet everything is still an illusion that somehow it is possible to er well, let's say that the situation cannot be resolved in a non-radical way , that is, each round of escalation on the part of er putin shows that it is impossible. in order to overtake these events and to create a new course of war, a pre-dogma
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of confrontation with russia, when putin should be afraid of the actions of our partners and ukraine , this does not yet exist. i think that this is due to the fact that there is no final strategic definition here, and human factors and it is possible to have some illusions of your own, and we have already talked about this, and in the case of certain countries from the crimea, germany, it is also present in france, in some predatory countries in spain, but hmm, to say that they influence something and i would not take it that is, it is just unfavorable for us the accumulation of various factors that still prevent the adoption of a final strategic uh decision thank you very much for such an analysis oleg chanshur the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine was on radio svoboda thank you whether
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international military support will be able to collapse the russian front in ukraine and what to expect from tomorrow ramstein my colleague zoryana stepanenko recorded an exclusive interview with an official representative of the pentagon, where and in butler, colonel, colonel, spokesman for the joint chiefs of staff of the united states, listen to an excerpt of their conversation in of the heads of the defense departments of the nato countries, as well as at the meeting in rammstein farmachi, as is known , general milli spoke for the first time with his ukrainian colleague valery zaluzhny , who told what the current situation is on the battlefield. how would you characterize the current state of affairs at the front and also the defense needs of ukraine met for the first time after several conversations over the past year, so in a certain way they already know each other and how do they do it
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two military men are sitting at the table above the map leading a fairly objective discussion, but you asked me about the situation on the battlefield, perhaps the first thing to say is outside the battlefield, i mean what russia is doing against the civilian population of ukraine, this is not part of the battlefield of the russians. how do you feel? you know very well that they personally bomb women and children, civilian infrastructure, electrical networks without a military purpose, this is the first thing we should pay attention to, because it is a fact and this must stop, this is not the situation at the front, this is a difficult situation in ukraine, now let's return to the battlefield the front line is generally immobile, you know that in the east there are centers of terrible violence in bakhmut and near the flint where the russians and ukrainians continue their offensive, but at the moment the front lines are generally static and skirmishes and artillery battles are taking place through them. you mentioned the contact group on the defense of ukraine, its next meeting is scheduled for friday, what decisions can we expect from her
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? president childrowdown offshore and there will be more than what ukraine needs and the united states is only part of the total support so our defense secretary lloyd austin is chairing this meeting and he's talking to the various defense ministers some of the defense chiefs general mille mickerivnik will sit with them and go over the details each country will contribute to this, you know that ukraine seeks to restore control over its territories within the limits of 1991, that is, including all of donbas and the crimean peninsula or the united states and its allies are ready to support ukraine in these efforts to achieve its goal and when, in your opinion, it will be possible to finally reach it, as president biden said, all that is needed and as much as it will be needed, ukraine will have support and this is its obligation to ukraine and
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the international community another thing we are talking about is that the sovereignty of ukraine is inviolable and therefore we will continue to support ukraine, and you will see on friday how our support continues to come, the representative of the national security council of white house of representatives john kirby said that according to american intelligence, russian troops did not completely capture soledar bakhmut of the donetsk region well, as for bakhmut, it is easier to confirm . in general, the russian side has been claiming for a long time that its forces control the city, while, for example , the armed forces of ukraine say that the soledars and for soledar are still fighting. what is happening in the bakhmut area, we traditionally monitor this and the officer of the freedom battalion of the national guard of ukraine, andrii illenko, joins our broadcast. my greetings to andrii. good evening
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. at the end of last week, russia officially announced that it allegedly completely captured soledar, tell me how the situation in the bakhmut area has changed since then, or have you noticed any major changes no cardinal changes about, for example, the fifth such a single such that it differs from what was two weeks ago or a month two months is already coming for half a year and half a year, the enemy did not succeed in encircling bakhmut than yes, there are very difficult moments, the enemy actually throws here what he has left of direction, and our god on the 15th of the national guard today and the
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national guard of all other security forces all continue to keep the definition of work. well , there are of course, the days are very difficult, but the enemy carries big dads. and our defense loses contact with you from time to time, but if i understood correctly to summarize, nothing fundamental has changed in the last week in the direction of bakhmut, because it is so the most intensive ones continue for andriy, also the leader of the private military company wagner prigozhin , he said today that his mercenaries allegedly captured the village of klishchivka under bakhmut in the donetsk region, he passed it off as a great victory, i don't know if you know anything about this, so let's stop quoting prigozhin endlessly . you see shit well, he is there, he is a
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representative of the russian forces there, he is at the front , where is he, yes, but his mercenaries are there, let's push back from the well-known of our general staff not all the time, prigozhin said prigozhin moved his left little finger and we have to immediately react and talk about it, the war is going on, heavy battles are going on, we need to focus on the messages of our general staff and our official representatives, what everyone is saying . i am interested in the idea of combat actions in which the ukrainian army is heroically holds the defense heroically inflicts losses on the enemy displaces his offensive potential destroys the best of his selected parts that are now here you have the abilities because now all that is left is i am not a commentator statement of some asshole beauty or something else let's listen to someone. our messages from our generals, our representatives, and they are repelled by them. and what is the enemy saying?
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the enemy will wage an information war, he needs to spin the situation, sow panic, despair , mistrust, and he should be quoted less . we include you in order to find out live and refute these messages that are spreading through e-e and telegram channels and social networks and other means of information that also affect and as you say directly affect the information picture, including in ukraine well, i answered your questions, the front is standing, the ukrainian defense is standing, the enemy is standing, it is not having any success, and bakhmut is under ukrainian control, the representative of the cancer of the white house, the same john kirby, he said today that american intelligence has confirmed that they are monitoring the same
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situation, that they confirm that fierce battles are being fought in the direction of bakhmut, and already today they are promoting the thesis that the russian troops actually attacked ukrainian positions with their targets, do you have an understanding where do they get so many people from, it is some kind of constant reinforcement, but i hear every time from your colleagues in other military that the forces prevail 3-4 times, well, the reinforcements are taken from them because we are 40 million for maybe less. i fully admit that it is less, but that's all one thing, they have a population, well, at least three times more than ours, so it is obvious that they have the ability to mobilize cannon fodder , therefore, in this regard, they simply have more , but they do not have that fighting spirit, some of us
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do not already have modern nato weapons there uh there was no name, unfortunately, unfortunately, the bad connection is interrupted, but i understood that the battles continue in the bakhmut direction, the forces prevail, but the ukrainian troops are holding the defense andriy illenko, an officer of the freedom battalion of the national guard of ukraine, connected to us live from the bakhmut direction, thank you very much well, and the russian troops they don't stop shelling bakhmut and its surroundings, meanwhile, there are four points of invincibility in the city with old- fashioned generators and hot food. this is reported by the correspondent serhiy horbatenko, a correspondent of radio svoboda who works in donetsk region from the city, says that the evacuation is ongoing, but only one unit agrees to leave
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do we need more water, we need more, and we look so clean , it's normal well, we need to wash up, we still have some left, now you are in bakhmut, this is the number one point of fame, they come for us to heat, charge our phones, we have wi-fi there is starklin, they can contact their relatives. we also prepare dinners, hot tea, coffee, we have thermoses , we can cook, we cook porridge, we cook with meat, we have canning, we can have cucumbers, we took out tomatoes, here today in us we try dumplings guys dumplings were brought to us yesterday, so today we are trying to warm them up, all of bakhmut needs water, we are left without water, you
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know, without electricity, people have already somehow existed, they make candles there, here we need fuel, this is the second fuel point , because we have generators, this is what you see, this is the whole the world is a generator, the service staff is so attentive, god bless the girls there , that’s what they give out for tea, how much patience is there, how much is there , what is the service? she will ask 10 times. it's good nastya, by the way, they gave me a friendly welcome anyway, thank you vinnie, yes, tell me how old you are, one point, do you have access to the internet, do you somehow learn
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remotely? we study by ourselves, we pass everything . we study. well , we came from the village of klesiv, sarnensky district, the church, we brought living water, we brought food, food packages, warm clothes for the military, warm clothes for the people, and we want to thank all our partners because we do this good work together. thank you to the mission of the margas church, the word of faith, warsaw . thank you, uh, to our american friends from america, the city of sufl, the church, a light for the world. may god bless us. there is no time
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to pray and we leave, we provide hygiene products for local people, food, food , we have bread twice a week, which people also receive, we as employees almost get to every day we, for example yesterday we came under fire, well, in general, more or less, we were protected by a building, but it was very difficult to get around the city, they thought. well, while we are still working and trying to benefit people, because we no longer have people to work with, well, in general, we believe in the armed forces because we want bakhmut . it was ukraine will be and we will always be ukraine, well
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, another almost detective story, the intelligence of ukraine learned that the president of russia, vladimir putin, gave an order for a full-scale invasion and, in particular, about the intention to attack kyiv on the morning of february 24, from ukrainian financier and intelligence officer denys kireyev, this is stated in the article of the world street journal, the publication is called a russian spy or a ukrainian hero, the strange death of denys kireyev, kireyev took part in russian -ukrainian negotiations. circumstances, journalists of the publication refer to their conversations with officials, representatives of the special services of ukraine, the united states, family, friends , bodyguards, and business partners of kireev, according to his journal island, a 45-year-old banker denys kiriev gave the head of ukrainian intelligence, kyrylo budanov, information that helped protect kyiv. on february 23, it was kireev who said that putin had given the order
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to begin the invasion of ukraine. in addition , the main target of the attack on the antonov airport near kyiv was known. according to budanov, thanks to this information, the ukrainian side managed to transfer to airfield, additional forces, if not for kiriev, most likely, kyiv would have been taken, bogdanov said experimentally, the comments sharpened the magazine later, bogdanov suggested that kiriev take part in the russian-ukrainian negotiations in belarus as part of the ukrainian delegation, on march 5, kireyev went to these negotiations for the second time, according to the reports of the escalation, the magazine intercepted him on the way. sbu agents disarmed the bodyguards, and kireyev himself was taken to an unknown direction. about an hour and a half later, he was found dead, as general budanov told the night before the belarus called mr. kiriev from the office of sbu counterintelligence chief oleksandr poklad, according to budanov, mr. poklad is responsible for identifying intelligence officers
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who are suspected of working for russia mr. poklad refused to comment, as did the sbu spokesman, citing the law on state secrets for a trip to belarus. mr. kireev, together with his personal security and military intelligence agents, went by car to the kyiv railway station. he told the guards that he can be arrested on the way, don't interfere - he said - according to a member of his security team, the group reached the center of kyiv and stopped near st. sophia cathedral, several minibuses from officers of the sbu approached and ordered mr. kiriev's military intelligence officers and guards to put down their weapons. pereyev was put in a minibus. his guards were lying on their backs on the street when the van was leaving. approximately 90 minutes later, military intelligence officers
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were called to the place where they found mr. kiriev's body. ukrainian media at the beginning in march, with reference to own sources, they wrote that kireev was suspected of treason and was shot. during the detention, at the same time, the main intelligence directorate reported that kireev was an employee of the gur and died during the performance of a special task , denys kireyev was eventually buried as a hero, and president zelensky even posthumously awarded him for his contribution to the protection of state sovereignty and security. it is interesting that the head of the sbu intelligence, oleksandr poklad, who allegedly called kireyev before, refused to comment. the dbr also refused to comment. radio svoboda should investigate such murders. we also asked the dbr and the sbu for comments. murders, we are waiting for an answer. meanwhile, the head of the office of ukraine, adviser to the head of the office of the ukrainian president, mykhailo podolyak, made a statement. according to him, the reason for the murder of
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kireyev lies in poor coordination between the sbu and the gur at the beginning of the invasion. on matters of national security, defense and intelligence roman kostenko romane good evening, the story is really a detective story, well, in the wall street journal what did a russian spy or a ukrainian hero call this publication so who is denys kyiv a spy or a hero? look, if we refer to kirill budanov, and i think that russian spies are not awarded with the orders of bohdan khmelnytskyi, and they are not directly buried with the chastity, that is why i trust kirill budanov, and i believe that here this case, which needs detailed work, will still need and now it needs an investigation and still to understand who is to blame because a person died here, there are many questions, in particular, there are guards, if they were guarding, what does it mean that they were put down, they were disarmed, they had to do it in
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order to protect their client and here starting from the guard, if he knew that he would be captured or detained, how did both the gur and the security service of ukraine look at it, so i say once again that it is a very complicated matter and there are a lot of unknowns that need to be clarified if a person worked, really helped in our state for this, she was found murdered somewhere in the city , well, those who are guilty of this must definitely be punished, based on what you said, i do, well, based on what you said, i summarize from what you said that the employees of the service the sbu killed a hero. there is the same problem. the question is that his detained and i simply answer the question whether he is a hero or not or treason. i say once again that if you him after his death, he was
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awarded an order, if kyrylo budanov petitioned for him, who is directly the head of the guru and they say that he worked for him, then i i don't think he is responsible for his words and i don't know what this person did, so i wouldn't say that he is a traitor. at this stage, it's so sharp jordal tells about what and it was budanov who confirmed that the head of counterintelligence allegedly called kireev before the murder sbu oleksandr poklad we asked the sbu for a comment, we did not receive a response, the island magazine also did not receive a response from the deposit but what do we know about this person, is he still in office, he could probably shed light on this story well, he is the head of the counterintelligence department of ukraine, he i was appointed before the war for some time there, i don't remember. well, after i was there, a person was changed, because mr. general rusnak was the head, and then he became a deputy,
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i think a few months before the war , i remember i think there was a change in management of ukrainian counterintelligence and now he heads this department, which deals in particular with counter-intelligence, protection, visit control, counter-intelligence protection of the country, you say, we don't know if the sbu has anything to do with the murder of kireev, but here is an interesting comment made by mykhailo podolyak, adviser to the head of the office of the ukrainian president. he said that the murder of connected with the fact that there was no unified coordination between the power structures, this is very strange, agree, this is not surprising. this is probably true . i think that they clearly understood this. i remember. it was kept quiet at the beginning . it was a resonance, and then after the full-scale invasion, this topic somehow took a back seat because there really was, let's say, a lot of other news that
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simply forgot all these, let's say, all these circumstances before the question here is that i think that this can happen if, uh, we are under poor coordination, which is what he says. apparently, they know more there, including podolyak, what about all the people who, for example, are in the main intelligence department, they cannot even know about them, the security service of ukraine sometimes they do things and there is enough serious fall into the field of view of the security services and possibly due to the fact that the things that he did were similar to some kind of treason , but he did not do them in the interests of the country. the sbu considered it as treason. it is really necessary to understand the murder, if he was really captured by the sbu employees and then he was found murdered, then of course it is necessary to understand whether they did it or did they let him go, the question here is quite serious and
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it is necessary to understand it unequivocally. here i want to quote ukrainian pravda. on march 5, they wrote about the fact that with reference to some high-ranking interlocutor in the power marriage of the bloc and political circles. and this interlocutor told ukrainian pravda that he was an agent. you know why agents are killed, that is, high-ranking law enforcement officers with whom was the ukrainian truth talking, they told it to the journalists in such a way that kireev was allegedly an agent, a traitor, and for that he was killed. and i thought, what if he was a traitor among the pawns? well this is already some kind of extrajudicial execution, yes, we are not accusing anyone of being a murderer, but the facts that we have now really show that there are questions, including the security service of ukraine, if the head of intelligence talks about it and clearly cites the facts , then there are questions to which the club should answer, and
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you are right here that even if he was suspected of something, we are a country in which there should at least be a court and this court should impose a punishment on him, so it is really we should not turn into some i will say the russian federation there. what do they do there? somewhere on the street, on the curbs, as they say, where were they found? well, i am asking the first question here. why didn't the security work? he was given medicine, what can he be detained, then what ? the fact that he was taken by the security service is over, if the security saw that it was a specific security service, here are specific questions for the security service dobudanova he must provide the facts. i think he provided them because the president would not simply award a person with the order of bohdan khmelnytskyi if this person was not a traitor, at least there should be facts and there should be an investigation into how this
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person died, because we should not be like that, that person really helped us, they just killed him and that was the end of the matter, but budanov also quotes him angrily, the magazine says that he does so clearly and vividly emphasizes that allegedly, if it were not for the information from kyiv, the ukrainian side would not have learned about putin's plans more clearly and specifically, you can trust vodanov 100% here that he really had such valuable information that it was his information helped ukraine to gain time, look, i ca n't answer this question for me, it 's not clear why because i know that we had information primarily from our allies, including the completed member, the information is our partners, it's not allies, but partners gave we have full information about what and when it will happen, and kyrylo budanov was quite good at it , and the fact that he said this before the war that there would be a war, he clearly interrupted the facts that were provided to us by our partners. her i just wasn't involved and i don't know, and when we
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even eavesdrop on budanov at the committee, he doesn't reveal to us his historians who told him what, but well, i say once again that if he already talks about it, he openly says that he is a person who helped and the water tells us the same thing, that he was killed, and they tell us the facts, and once again i say that uh, so there are, let's say, there are topics that we need to cling to and we even i was there today with some members of the committee about this uh, we talked about it and we discussed it we understand that the topic is enough serious you can't take it easy to kill a person again we accuse him of being a murderer, but we need to clearly understand this, because he may be a candidate, mr. kostenko. well, you represent a profile committee in the verkhovna rada. i think we'll come back to that. questions perhaps the committee will also have questions for the sbu, thank you very much roman kostenko, people's deputy
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of ukraine, faction, voice, secretary of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence, was on radio svoboda well, traditionally, finally, i encourage you to subscribe to the radio's pages freedom in social networks instagram telegram facebook twitter viber and two channels on youtube radio freedom and radio freedom ukraine freedom life will return to the air tomorrow cinema television sports music education the free have a choice choose what you want on megogo art in the country of war a series of documentaries each of which will tell about one of
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