the voice of the secretary of the committee on national security , defense and intelligence was on radio svoboda and traditionally at the very end. i urge you to subscribe to the pages of radio svoboda in social networks instagram telegram facebook twitter viber and two channels on youtube radio svoboda and radio svoboda ukraine svoboda life will return to the air tomorrow, cinema, television, sport - it's education, free people have a choice, choose what you want on megogo, art in the country of war, a series of documentary films, each of which will tell about one of the ukrainian artists, artists who did not leave for

border and continue their creative path in ukraine, the impression is that history just entered now, and at some such moment where everything just gathered into it as linearly, so what happened there that we remember then was a kind of drag, but as if it is now everything in one moment and we see that well, everything repeats itself, but how the place and meaning of the artist and his work change. in a country at war, see in the new tv series from the studio docnotfilm, the association babylon 13 has become art in the country of war from january 16 on weekdays from monday to friday at 11:10 on espresso, i'm iryna koval, mother, wife, host of the espresso tv channel, and i'm also a volunteer. our soldiers at the front need a lot of things every day, and that's

why part of my life today is helping the armed forces of ukraine, and i'm very grateful to my colleagues that they support me in this, the war found me at home in irpen, an alarming suitcase was packed, but that did not reduce the excitement, explosions every minute, the gostomel airfield, russian fighter jets , i have a cold basement in my window, then leaving under shelling from irpen, a month of being thrown by relatives and in the end i ended up in lviv, returned to the airwaves and started volunteering together with my colleagues, helping our military is now an integral part of life, we collect drones and thermal imagers, weave nets, and on weekends we are going to prepare vitamin teas for our defenders at the front, we all cut fruit together, clean up berries, we whip everything and pack it is always very happy to think that

in a few days this tea will warm ukrainian soldiers, everyone of you can help even a small contribution to support the army saves the lives of our soldiers and brings our victory my greetings to all my name is anna valevska you are watching espresso i am yours traditionally thank you very much for the unconcerned position as for me this is the main thing that saves and unites us with you is the self-government program about exactly how people organize themselves do not wait for it to happen by itself everything will fall from the sky manna is from heaven, and everyone organizes and exercises self-government at their own level, and of course, namely local self-government as an organization and part of the government in the country, too. the topic is very interesting because we have pro-russian

deputies who still sit in both the supreme and local councils. well, they got rid of their mandates in the supreme council, but in the local councils we have a lot of people who were elected from the opzzh from sharia and they continue to sit there almost a year of a full-scale war in ukraine medvedchuk spoke, opened his mouth and started writing articles about whether this meant or was it worth paying attention to it at all. well, the syndrome of the arresting officer of the advisers got divorced. let's talk to me on the phone viktor bobrenko is the director of viktor's political analysis bureau greetings political scientists 40 if you watch us on youtube, then react, put your likes or dislikes there, who likes or dislikes, write your opinion, it is important for us that people join or i am convinced, i always say the most important thing

is participation. she can be positive, a negative person can express a negative opinion, but she is not indifferent, does not pass all the main points, viktor, i want to discuss with you the events of this week, uh, they are so significant, it is clear that in parallel with the terrible events of the war , shelling and tragedies, there are parallel events that actually led to and will lead to such negative processes, and it is also worth talking about them. well, the verkhovna rada deprived five deputies of their mandates viktor medvedchuk andriy derkach our compatriot with you is rynat kuzmin andriy aksyonov in them, due to the deprivation of citizenship, we remind you that the president deprived them of their mandates, but the rest of the pro-russians continue to sit in the supreme and in local councils we have a small plot, let's see how it was, and then your comments will be waiting for . the verkhovna rada of ukraine stripped the mandates of

four pro-russian deputies from the opposition platform for life, which was banned by the political force, and thus prematurely lost the powers of viktor medvedchuk, taras kozak , andriy derkach and rinat kuzmin, who were recently stripped of their ukrainian citizenship, all were accused of state treason viktor medvedchuk tried to escape from ukraine shortly after the full-scale invasion, but was later detained by law enforcement officers russian politicians were exchanged for 200 captured ukrainian defenders taras kozak fled to russia even before the start of the war, he is also accused of an attempt to loot national resources in crimea, another fugitive people's deputy, andriy derkach, the security service suspects him of managing an agent network of the russian general staff, which was supposed to help the occupiers seize ukraine in the united states, they believe that derkach was a russian agent for more than 10 years, but rynat kuzmin is not at all ashamed to publicly support the criminal invasion of our country for according to the information of the investigation, kuzmin voiced in his speeches and spread

hostile propaganda through social networks, in addition, the parliament prematurely terminated the mandate of people's deputy andriy aksyonov, who previously wrote a statement of his own accord, according to the sbu, aksyonov has a russian passport, he is also involved in the pseudo-referendum in donbass in 2014, viktor bondarenko as do you also assess whether what the deputies have already done is enough? well, about andriy derkach, about the fact that he, uh, is trying to do this on behalf of the uh, russian federation, i spoke back in the 2000s. yes, when he, and he actually from 1994, from young people, he is a deputy and has become deaf and can express, remember in sumy region, they said that there he is the guardian of the north, because the northern

highways could not be anything to him, he was even appointed as a fireman in school they also took the top er, well, under the patronage of derkach, er, it’s different to be there and all the deputies, all the mayors, yes, everything is there. anything north of the highway, everything had to be negotiated with derkach. lives 14 years ago, 14 heads of communities of a total of 51 passed from derkach community in sumy oblast 14 passed from uh such a block our region uh well here in sumy oblast our region is called our crab and it's derkachovsky though let's be honest let's be honest these are the heads and these are the heads of the community these are the

heads of the community there are uh from them there a certain number of deputies or the majority of deputies . well, there, deputies were elected in different ways . but what we must remember is that many of those who came from derkach, they actually went for themselves, yes, they used derkach as resources as an opportunity and likewise pzshki in the regions there are a lot of passagists, they uh actually play mm uh, they have a dialogue, they are not pro-russian, they are their ideology - it 's uh, just uh, uh, nablyudechki with a blue glue stick, remember how ostap bender did yes, that

is, they came behind the dragons, they simply used some part of the description as a resource there that they have there, well, in sumy region it was 15-20% who supported pro-russianism, yes and these people used or uh, our region, on the one hand, i was very pleased that there were oppositionists in the verkhovna rada e deprived of mandates but with on the other hand, i say that there are many places in the east of the south of ukraine where the passengers took some kind of e-e mandates or shariiv people or our region somehow in the sumy oblast, well, our region is very well represented, in fact, these are not pro-russian people, these are people who used people’s pro-russianness as a resource for in order to enter local councils, but in fact they are ideological ideological fighters for

banknotes, well, or such paternalists, yes, there is papik derkach, he decides everything, and we will obey him here, viktor. so, then it means that there is nothing wrong with them sit in the local the councils, because they are not agents there are open, they simply left from the force from which it was convenient, or are they still waiting for me, anyway, to order such and such kozlov, which or, well, some of them are smaller, the total, a smaller part, which went er that they thought that er russia is the fraternal people. yes, they should be expelled, and the majority of those who thought, well, we are here, there, something there where they er got into the

majority formed the majority formed how if the local governments, yes, they should be expelled anyway , so that the second one would not be one, it was just treason to expel them. do they still have to bear some responsibility? at the state level, a law was passed that opzzh everyone, everyone, i repeat everyone who was once already eh well, they must eh lose their powers, just as eh as germany at one time prohibited everyone who was eh to join national socialist parties they don't have to hold any public positions just for the heck of it the law was equal in psg. everyone go for a walk. well, how

can you come out on your own right here? years there or there or at all since the creation although we play like that petro oleksiyovych also participated there too well i don’t know i don’t know that there are a lot of people here even well who is now in the democratic parties in the pro-government party well there are many who has it in their biography and how the question is how to write it yes, how to register them, we know how interesting it is to me, anna valivska, you were a deputy in the sumy district, yes, i was a deputy twice, and we don’t have such a library, this is a matter of reputation, we constantly raise it yani panchenko, it didn’t matter where to open one’s mouth on on which channel do we now see it in the occupied territory? i am talking about the reputation of a journalist, as well as the

reputation of a deputy. it is important, but these people are the same balytskyi in zaporizhzhia as well as here in sumy oblast kharkiv any councils they didn't just sit in the councils, they spread these narratives by the way, the next regiment of the vasylkis, on may 9, where they fought, the memory of kozhedub cannot be touched pushkin i remember i remember how my students came running to me and brought handfuls of st. george's ribbons. i say well, the gallows will be burned by the girl herself. well, what did they give her somewhere in the university? give a handful of these eh well, she brings trouble over there i'm there fu-fu over there dude go personally sleep she was burning there and i was pleased that my students bring me this filth and

smoke victor in my presence still i don't have an answer to the question how right, and in order to preserve our democratic course, and morality and everything else and reputation, after all, this is the place to settle this issue of everyone , it seems like an option, how is it to register them, to fulfill them now and not allow them to run for office in the future, because now those who are dying for ukraine and then everything will be eaten there was a government again, and not only that, there were many passers-by. even our countryman, the deputy hammer, is now sensitive there, the most important military officer there, they have already joined all the armed forces and are fighting. well, they are fighting, of course, all of them are somewhere in the rear. but somewhere or in chernivtsi, there in transcarpathia, but oh well they hold there that i, uh, emphasize that a law must be adopted. according to

this law, there must be restrictions on certain categories of citizens. let them appear in the european court of human rights. is it fair to not recognize them? that is, everyone who , for example, from a certain number was a party of regions or because of the possibility of running for office in the future. oh, that’s right, that is, it’s a preventive measure, but it’s necessary. well, everything must be arranged so that they, you in the european court of human rights, cannot win, so that they cannot win, just like the people who support the russian federation and ukraine... admits that everyone who once supported the russian federation is an enemy of the people and who once, even if he is now from the armed forces of ukraine, will say yes, i love ukraine, you bitch five years ago you gave out the damn guard ribbons, it's all your fault 150

mps collected signatures in the verkhovna rada , oleg dunda collected them there, but if i'm not mistaken, these parties are also there in his biography, well, now he is in the pro-government party and it's good that he fulfilled this mission, now in the verkhovna rada they collected 150 signatures for that to deprive deputies of mandates from all pro-russian parties, here we see how they voted, this meeting was initiated by oleg dunda, and they collected 150 signatures of people's deputies, and they appealed to stefanchuk, the head of the parliament, to remove the powers of deputies from prohibited of russian parties, well, the parties are already de jure prohibited outside the law, and the deputies are still so and medvedchuk, the same derkach, until this two weeks ago, they were also deputies. well, we see the voice, yes, the eu is the homeland for the future. the trust of the servant of the people. they gave a little, but not

a lot yes, viktor. well, what’s next. it ’s just an appeal to stefanshuk. well, it seems that they went to those parties. parties are prohibited by law. in my opinion, this is the work of the security service or not. how can they be in the parliament? well, where are they, yury? they are elected deputies in the parliament, that is they are in the parliament until yura, there is still no law that prohibits them from being in the parliament, they will be parliamentarians, that is, well, de jure, factor yes, make friends, marry a girl of easy behavior and you will be reproached for you're not a prostitute, you're not a prostitute, you got married, yes, but uh, de jure , she's a wife, de jure, they're deputies, other people elected deputies of easy behavior, now who will be responsible, people or

deputies, no, yes, now people answer little else. and no, i'll tell you one embarrassing thing something that i may say now, and it’s a lot for me, it’s more oh-oh-oh-oh-oh bad bad when in 2019 people voted for zelensky uh, there was an alternative well, there was one alternative, they don’t even name the candidate, yes, uh the army is the language of faith, for example, i voted for the wrong candidate, yes, voting for the army is the language of faith, but the majority of people voted for a negotiated settlement, er , to see peace in putin’s eyes, and putin heard it, and that is, everyone who

voted for zelensky in march 19 they voted for the war and it's not the fault of these people yes, uh, so that we share the blame and responsibility. but these people should have some responsibility. well, everyone who votes then uh. well, at least it is possible that many had different motives. for zelenskyi, well, it won’t be worse, eh, eh, eh, eh , we’ll vote yes, at least we’ll laugh. well, you have the right to say that. we wanted easy solutions. we wanted everything to be beautiful. we voted for the last name.

of the people yes let half of our people they are now well, they won't admit it if i say you are guilty of that, stop, not guilty, well, indirectly, yes. what you do with us is a legal status of some kind. yes, but you participated in it, you defended it, you mutilated it, and putin came and drowned. what did he think that the majority of the ukrainian people was ready to accept there ? he will agree on a middle ground, but putin thought that in the middle is not even the dnipro, but there is something else there, he will give six regions to the poles, and he will take the rest to his empire , and here are all those who in march 19th came to the elections and said there let's agree on sredinke, well, because of this, we vote, they, uh, well, they brought the war closer, viktor, i still wanted to discuss this topic with you, there is not much time, but in short

, in principle, otaka, the position is not very responsible, and both the voters and the authorities pay for it, then the rest of the ukrainians , for example, those who are dying now, and i hear and read from the soldiers what they say, yes, we fight because it is a matter of honor, but then when they come back, what do they see, what is happening there in the government , er, at different levels? if everything goes well when when we will win, we will go abroad. even this is heard here, too, and here is the question of the professionalism of the responsibility of the government, well, any government, now it is a question of advisers . arestovych wrote a resignation letter this week, yes. and what do you think about this person? i generally like it this institute of advisors is so dubious, there are a bunch of advisors , where he took up with the president's office, which advisor. as you can see, the president's office did not explain anything, after he said that it was our ppp in the dnipro that shot down the rocket and that's why it

fell, the house, er, so that we know we did query er last year, by the way, exactly in january last year a year before well er a year and er i don't know how as of now but then in january 2022 in the office of the president 572 people worked part-time in the staff that is, you can imagine how much more is the president's office than any ministry? well, in my opinion , this is all a perversion . this is not a constitutional position. yes, he is like the head of the president's office. well, he is like a

chief office manager who is only responsible for to know where today er and with whom zelenskyi is meeting, well, in essence, yes, the office is the office manager of any firm, his main mission is a sign, absolutely everything is included. and the government er and well, de facto there is a vice king. yes, here is the adviser of the adviser, yes , in fact yarmak is zelenskyi’s chief adviser, and here the adviser is responsible for this because he er, what he blurted out, it was picked up by the russian all their propaganda and it is very useful to them. who is responsible for it now? secretary-secretaries or who no no no no no one will answer for this not only that

arestovych is like a beautiful person he went into politics, we understand that if a party is created under him , this 5% party will gain a hundred pounds because, well, the arrestee has a lot of uh, well roughly speaking, i once came, er, for the first time after the deoccupation of sumy oblast, they came to kyiv sometime in april and i watched two girls walk with pillows and they are playing on the pillows, that is, you understand, that is. kind of reassured and that means he has 5%, he will go into politics anyway, he will still stay with the president's office and what he wrote there oh, i'm leaving, i made a mistake, i'm leaving, it 's good politically and someone will think come on, he'll be nodding his head there, like, yes , like, damn, well done, he went straight

like a european politician, he'll still be eh. the last interview he gave to siginim. damn, i just, i was just in awe of him, well , he's a genius. he's back. so what ? yes, i apologize for the mess. but you do you understand who is there right now, there are trolls ? yes, either medvedchukovsk or poroshenko are trolling me, and then he repeated three or four times in the interview to put medvedchuk and poroshenko in a row, that is, you understand why where where uh well, how is dima he is a demonized person and of course poroshenko must be framed here and arestovych will continue to carry out this mission, he will be a media killer for the president's office, for this he needs official uah 30,000, which is paid to an assistant there, to

be independent, he pays envelopes with fluff for the fact that he will continue to work for the office of the president, he will not go anywhere victor, i thank you for the fact that this is the first buffer party between zelenskyi and others, and secondly, this party will be when it will come to the parliament to help zelenskyi, this means that you and i will have a lot of work , because this is also a question of choosing pillows with which to hug our people, then they choose these pillows for the parliament and in various councils, and then they wonder why we live so badly. thank you viktor bobrenko, even anya and they even wonder where it comes from. we have a war and most of the people don't understand what it's from

. yes, you voted for the war. viktor boborenko , political analysis bureau and historian and political scientist. thank you, as always, interesting and professional. let's continue this topic again. it is very important to us right now. well, in principle, it is important and is a front-line deputy of the regional council, and the scat shurbeko to tell you. congratulations. thank you for taking the time. thank you for the invitation. well, let's start, let's talk about your local self-government about deputies today i am mainly talking about the russians whom we did not elect and now we do not know what to do with such nonsense with them for almost a year of war they sit in our councils but let's start with operational information you have constant shelling there and a few days ago you wrote that and your house was shelled, what is the situation now in zaporizhia, well , in fact, i think that the last two weeks

the situation has become more tense, almost every day we have shelling or communities that are close to zaporizhia or the suburbs of zaporizhia. and a few days ago, two days therefore, in fact, there was already a missile attack on the center of the city, which hit a residential high-rise building. fortunately, no one was injured, there were no casualties, but there is another meter and literally i think that the entrance was completely destroyed, as it was there in the dnipro, and as it was in zaporizhzhia in october, and also according to the general staff report and according to the information of the zaporizhzhia regional military administration , in fact, every day we have shelling of the 15th and 17th population centers in the zaporizhzhia region, we have a large front line, this is actually the entire southeast of the region. nuts, eh the malin community, the gulyaipil community, there is constant shelling, and you associate this activation with the seven because they increasingly began to

talk about a possible next zaporizhzhia, and in principle, these days, one attempt to attack was repelled with that gulya-gulyapillya tokmak what is there in this plan now as far as zaporizhia is preparing for a possible offensive of virtually everyone. i think that the occupiers are generally trying to push the front line every day. this happens constantly. now there is more activation. i think that it is connected with reinforcement on the front line, however, i still think that such attacks are aimed at stopping a possible counteroffensive of the armed forces, because i fully draw parallels with the autumn similar missile attacks on the city, in fact , in order for the city to be in chaos in a panic in order to knock down some logistics flows through the city come on