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and destroys city after city and we feel that we are our defenders, they are running out of weapons, unfortunately, iron is damaged we have no right to delays and i have already repeatedly emphasized that it would really be fair to thank you for what you have already done but i thank you 100 time, but we still need it, we pay with ukrainian blood we can put the war on hold, we need artillery installations we need anti-missile installations very much to protect the ukrainian sky and i thank you very much for all the weapons that you sent to us, every installation helps ukrainians to fight terror, yes, time is what is a
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weapon in the hands of russia, so we must speed up, time must be with a trump card up our sleeve, such as air defense systems, artillery installations, armored vehicles and tanks t is what we need, we are counting on you we ask you to speed up our help, dear ladies and gentlemen, this is the first time i am addressing you in this format, and i am addressing you not as the heads of the defense departments, but as the ministers of the ministers of defense, the defense itself, which liberates and grants freedom to our to the civilized world, i know that you share all the values of freedom, we all dream of this freedom. i know that ukrainians dream a lot about the future for their children, but now, unfortunately
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, they no longer have children, so we all dream together now about the future. we invest in the future, we invest in the new world order, we understand that you do not want what is happening in ukraine now for you, for yours, and for such a future for your children , that is why we must understand what kind of war ukraine is waging for all of us, not only for ukraine, but for the countries of the whole world, russia wants e to use their right to destroy the people and they openly declare this, they violate any and international law, they commit international war crimes, and that is why ukrainians are now in battle afraid of ukraine, because ukrainians are fighting now in order to show you an example of how don't be afraid we are our forces that tried we just want to show that
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hatred can be countered and that's why we and i have to hurry up we have to do it we have to act as soon as possible because it's the father or mother who protects their children they will act as soon as possible, they, the children, will know that their parents are here and now in need of this or that, armed, of this or that help, these are our people, we all continue to believe, dream, love, we believe and hope that freedom will come for us and for all of you, for each of our allies and members of the anti-putin coalition, we oppose this hatred, we oppose the kremlin's snarl, because the kremlin must be defeated, ladies and gentlemen, you are extremely strong people of powerful states, and i know your courage, i appreciate your every
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effort and what you have done, i know that very it is difficult to make the decisions you are making, but they are depriving russia of its strength, so we can today, you can start this policy today to take away any possible force from russia, we can bargain for a certain amount of this or that weapon, but we must not hesitate and provide we need support, we ask you for it today, we hope that the results of today's meeting of rammstein the eighth will guarantee us the confidence that we will crush this russian terror and bring our victory closer , so please be as accurate as possible in with your decisions, strike exactly as
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our fighters do on the front lines, and everyone is now working on their front. are they office workers, are they salespeople, are they generals, everyone works on every front, each of you now when he heralds freedom. glory to ukraine, i applaud now mr. president unfortunately for ukraine, there are certain things. thank you, mr. president, of course , we will continue to stand side by side with ukraine, we will defend the principles of democracy. responsibility for our actions, so today, as usual, we will take a short break, thank you. 35 on the
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clock, there was a pause, the meetings were held there . rammstein just spoke. he addressed the defense ministers of the group of countries that help us. of legal programs , the ukrainian center for social development , ihora. once again, the president said that time should not play against the russians, as it is playing now, but it should play against us, so we are grateful for this grant help, but weapons are also depleting, weapons are depreciating and we need more weapons, in addition to the fact that we have already been given your reaction to rest. well, let's start with zelenskyi, that is, i am asking for the correct statement of the president, in fact, he probably indicated the key points that are important for ukraine and indeed, time can be used
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in a different way, if we were sure that certain deliveries would be made to us in the next month, then time itself played against us, and if we do not have such confidence, it plays it is clear to russia, which is accumulating these newly mobilized people, conducting some kind of combat reconciliation with them and then hoping to throw all this cannon fodder directly to the front, so the president seems to me to have placed the emphasis very correctly, and judging by the reaction of those present, they fell on prepared ground and let's hope what is this pause by the way, which they took now yes they took it in order to count the number of leopards that we will get after rammstein now each country will say how much it gives and they accordingly, they will reach some number, well, just kidding. but it is clear that there is very serious preparatory work going on there, and it seems to me that there should still be pleasant surprises for us, since all the people who gathered there and all the ministers of defense understand that right now it is really very important the period is coming on the battlefield, this period can
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be used by both the russian federation and ukraine, everything must be done so that the russian federation does not use it to its advantage in any way. the principles were hoped for. what were they talking about and what was our general staff working on for a very long time and our ministry of defense working and all those personal contacts that have been in recent times ? well, they were not just contacts, but some very specific substantive things were discussed there and the game what austin said caught the minister defense of the united states, what is the most? well, he already said there about brands and some other technical equipment that is provided to us. well, but there is not about a wide list. he mentioned well, we saw this already wide list today. in the morning it was published there, in addition to bradley, there are also strikers and a huge number of habibs, that is, in principle, you know, if you draw such a conclusion , we see very large deliveries, if you count, we are talking about almost four there, with something like hundreds of machines that are given to us by various countries , primarily the united states, but they put in a lot of effort there
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, and sweden put in a lot of effort, canada put in a lot of effort, basically britain. in this regard, we see this light armored vehicle that can be used for two purposes, on the one hand, it conduct of offensive actions, let's remember, er, unique, er, very successful, our counteroffensive that was in kharkiv oblast, yes. when we liberated a significant part of the temporarily occupied territories, it was carried out precisely at the expense of the light armored vehicles that were provided to us by the partner countries. respectively, we were on the other side of this whole doll of armored vehicles , it will significantly increase the mobility of our troops, including on the front line, for example, in order to repel any possible attacks there from the russian side federation, that is, it can be seen that work is being done with all two directions, and let's give it the same number that our commander-in-chief spoke about, he called there somewhere 500-600 of these e-e bdr and bmp yes, it is largely closed here as of today, the
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key now is the moment. how quickly will they be delivered to ukraine, but according to your information, which i saw this morning, the american bmps are already in europe, that is, in principle, they can be delivered directly to ukraine within a long time. and from the point of view of studying there and we manage manage i think it will literally take a couple of days for our military, since they already have experience working with such equipment, well, american or european in general, and it should not cause any big problems there, so the layout of light armored vehicles is very interesting. now we wait accordingly . thoughts and approaches are also changing, but they have now gone on a break, it may be that after that break there will be a decision to provide us with e tanks and long-range missiles . look here, the key one was yesterday the meeting between the head of the pentagon and the german minister of defense, the sand minister of defense said that this is what i understood personally from him and
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from his ministry in general, and as well as from germany as a whole, there are no special reservations about providing tanks to ukraine. yes, there was a certain decision in the bundestag, but now no one from that germany does not ask that they directly give us their tanks, let's first agree and then the european countries will be able to start collecting all the tanks in order to then unite them in some certain groups and transfer directly to ukraine. it seems to me that there is a general conversation about this heavy armored vehicle, since there are questions about missiles and so on. well, they will be considered in narrower groups and with a specific country. and the issue of heavy armored vehicles is a complex issue, it is a question that concerns all those ministers and mainly in most of all those countries that are present at rammstein today, thank you very much, mr. igor, we were told that you should go already, his rater commented on everything that is happening now in germany, there is a meeting in the rammstein format, thank you very much mr. igor , head of political and legal programs of the public organization ukrainian center for
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social development, well, our social development now directly depends on defense capability, we must first survive, then continue our development, so we are all watching what is happening now in germany, how much will they give us what kind of weapons, so that we, uh, now go confidently to victory, british intelligence counted and counted 50,000 wagner fighters in ukraine, such information from them claims that the russian private military company wagner has under its command up to 50,000 militants involved in the war in ukraine and thus it has become a key component of russia's military campaign . as a compulsory subject during the preparation of the national multimedia nmt test in the 23rd year for admission to institutions of higher
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education, the minister of education and science serhii shkarlet stated that the very first subject the national subject will also consist of two compulsory subjects : ukrainian language and mathematics, as well as one optional subject, the history of ukraine, a foreign language, english, french, german , or spanish, physics, chemistry or biology . it will be necessary to make a choice during registration at the nmt. we want applicants to discover your best abilities, so there will be two compulsory subjects, ukrainian mathematics and a third subject, what is mathematics for? well, okay, this is the basic base, don't count, ukrainians really like to count money, but today we had petro cherny , a military expert here, who always draws historical parallels when we ask him about the war. well, because everything repeats itself and not knowing history is, uh, reliving it again and again, that is, banging your head against the same door, the same walls and if we don't teach our children history, then god forbid our
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future generations will have to do the same as we are doing now, namely fight fight back survive die unfortunately we have a plot yes, we were told that we can now look right now and all together about the fact that ukraine can count on an increase in the supply of heavy weapons from western countries in the near future, we are now seeing a parade of announcements. it seems that the countries are competing to see who will announce more, who will be louder , who will be more. nato also said about this that the aid will increase and has such a potential that announcements about new supplies may appear today according to the results of the rammste meeting. let's remember, let's see the plot, the story, the new year for ukraine began with inflammatory gifts from partners, the
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russian military will soon receive them, but there is a nuance. on january 6, the united states announced a record three-billion dollar aid package, which in particular included heavy equipment, 50 infantry fighting vehicles, which the americans themselves also call tank killers, one hundred m-113 armored personnel carriers, 18 self-propelled and 36 towed howitzers in the wake of the usa, germany has informed about its desire to provide ukraine with an infantry fighting vehicle, this is about 41 bmp-marder they are capable of moving at a speed of up to 70 km/h, armed with a gun, a collimated anti-tank complex, and an optical sight. but the main thing that the ukrainians expect from the germans is the provision of the leopard-2 combat tank in the western media. disputes continue in the western media. bloomberg, citing its sources, writes that berlin will soon officially announce about such a decision , while the german media claim that chancellor
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schulz is not yet ready for this step, and they should give the opportunity to sell their private film, and i think it will be in the near future. i hope that this issue will be resolved at rammstein and i hope that other countries will also receive permission and that rammstein will also announce the transfer of telepards and i hope that we are only leopard 2 from the most massive tanks in europe and the world together with the american abrams . but unlike of them, the german one is easier to maintain, they run on diesel fuel, and they can be repaired relatively close to europe. on january 11, during a visit to lviv, the president of poland said that as part of an international coalition, he would provide ukraine company, i.e. 14 leopard tanks, but germany still has to allow it, since they are also their development, i plan to hold negotiations on the supply of leopard tanks to ukraine with representatives of several political groups during
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my visit to berlin, such processes require long discussions, but the pressure must be constant, for example, the decision on giving the petrivs took about 1.5 months from the germans, they said that the patriots were going only to poland, but after pressure they agreed to give them to ukraine, in addition to poland , spain and finland promised to give the leopard to kiev at the same time prime minister of great britain, based on the results of a telephone conversation with president zelensky, announced the transfer of 14 challenger 2 tanks in the coming days, london will begin training the military armed forces of ukraine to use them, they also promise that part of the batch will arrive to us soon, there are even certified hash ammunitions, which, well, in general, were specially created in order to hit and disable enemy armored vehicles at much greater distances up to 8 km, and also extremely effectively fight against cover. it has probably the most possible
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and protection from all because it is generally one of the heaviest tanks in the world and western tanks were created precisely in order to destroy the soviet equipment as efficiently as possible out of four, they were designed in order to have more armor protection to have a greater range of discovery or target detection, or partners from the beginning of the russian for a long 10 months, they refused to provide tanks to ukraine . due to an unofficial agreement, the countries did not want to be the first to transfer these weapons due to the fear of an alleged even greater escalation on the part of the russian federation. this concept was unexpectedly destroyed on january 4, french president emmanuel macron told volodymyr zelenskyi that he would hand over heavy armored personnel carriers amh-10rc, which are also classified as wheeled tanks, however, for ukraine, the non- nomenclature of the provision of equipment is still vitally important, and its quantity
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and items are extremely important precisely for conducting offensive operations e- the commander actively talked about the fact that we need 300 tanks, 700 bmps, 500 systems, and we understand that european countries are ready to help with such a number, and we we are slowly becoming stronger precisely because of this e-e military foreign aid, partners about helping ukrainian air defense, president biden promised the zelensky patriot battery, known for its high efficiency , will provide another one. shoot down ballistic missiles, which currently our air defense cannot do. what caused the terrible tragedy in the dnipro, the russians fired an x-22 missile at a high-rise
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canada is going to buy anti-aircraft missile defense systems for ukraine, two such batteries are already in service with the armed forces of ukraine and give almost one hundred percent effect, so that the same air should appear on our air natalya ligachova, head of the public association detector media, let's talk about the threat to freedom of speech and i before that how will we see her, i hope we will see, i will quote what she said about the control of the television space in an interview with the publishing house, the head office increased the control of the television space both in digital and in cable, the exclusion of digital broadcasting of three opposition tv channels in particular, our express without adequate explanations. and it is absolutely unacceptable that a single marathon, which was a positive phenomenon at the beginning of the war, is fully controlled by the state in an annual mode. on the one hand, the presence of such a single voice is good, but on the other hand, some information does not reach the consumer and he starts looking for other sources in particular, those that spread misinformation and cause harm . but even in the telethon there are problems with
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observing the standards of journalism, i believe natalya yosypivna, and they do not always provide verified information, so svoboda the words are if it is not contrary to the legislation and does not pose a threat to national security, but at the same time there is a narrowing of pluralism in the television space, noted nataliya ligacheva, commenting on the threats and control by the state of the information information space for publishing, does we have a headquarter, natalia, for what is criticized what is wrong with him? in the union, we will now talk about the media with natalya ligachova, the head of the public organization detector media, congratulations to mrs. natalya, we congratulate you. good day. how are you
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doing those 100 years without seeing each other? tell me, please . now we will talk about internet media a little later. do you think that we should do a really single marathon now, probably in the first days of the invasion - it was good know-how and it gave a certain positive informational influence, but now a year has passed and the marathon remains, three channels remain disconnected, and for sure this situation needs to be changed, how can it be changed in your opinion? until the end of the war, and he already said that just yesterday, in an interview with the kyiv post, kyryla tymoshenko, deputy head of the president's office, said again that we just have to live with it, it's another
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matter, that we really need to influence on the quality of this marathon so that it would not be there after all such a pr of one political force let's say so or the employees of the president's office it is definitely necessary to say all the time that three channels were disconnected and they were disconnected well, without any concrete explanations, there was no relation to the number for this yes, they were not accepted into the marathon, and then they were also disconnected from digital broadcasting. this is unprecedented, and yes, there is no way to correct this situation. i don’t see any possibility. well, let’s be realistic. yes, correct this situation with these channels. i do not i see opportunities until at least the end of the war, and that's why i'm glad that all the tv channels are functioning now, yes, one of them is actually yours, so you are
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functioning at the moment, i think that you will grow, gradually, gradually, gradually, well , people want to care more, have more diverse voices yes, the media, and indeed, although this marathon was positive at the beginning of the war, now more and more they want non-alternative information, because we do not give and you do not give alternative information. er, other media besides the marathon will now recruit simply er, but you said in this interview what citizens are looking for and started other sources, in particular those that spread disinformation, a huge number of people are now subscribed to various telegram channels, a large part of which are up to 10 % or even more well , all telegram channels are run from the territory of the russian federation and then everything is launched, everything from
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frank disinformation to the manipulation of certain how to deal with this, but at a certain moment, all the telegram channels that used to appear as themselves on telegram i read it at the beginning of the war in order to simply observe information hygiene, maybe it’s wrong for a journalist and a television channel, but at least now i open the channel. i know the editor-in -chief. i know who the journalists are working there that i don’t trust. well, half-truths, half-lies, half- obsessed, one woman said , how do you feel about telegram channels in general ? not television, no internet resources, but telegram channels, please. well, actually, how is the leadership of the state coffee in ukraine?
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information hygiene is just a personal citizen, you did the right thing. don't use anonymous e-e tv channels , telegram channels, i read. well, how is a professional who analyzes the media space, but a simple citizen should not read it, but we note that it is really very convenient here in why is it a convenient phenomenon, it is quickly updated, for the rapid dissemination of information. it is probably the most convenient messenger. well, you have to admit it, and that is why people actually use it precisely because the state turned it off, and not the other way around, yes, but still after all, there are other messengers, now you said that we just don’t have much time left to influence, that we need to influence the marathon, what tools of influence are there, who should do it? well, and about
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the media law, and what, please tell us that we can influence it only by civil means. society experts, a media expert, and they have to tell us what, after all, a marathon is one voice, it is controlled by the state, we understand that it is possible to look for information in other sources, but not in telegram channels. this is exactly what concerns the bill on the media was already signed by the president, so i believe that at the stage when it was adopted, it was already acceptable , that is, i personally do not have any very big complaints about it, although there is the biggest complaint that can to be this is really what we understand to be national council well, it cannot be in our country under the conditions it is formed, it is completely
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independent of the presidential branch of power, it was for all presidents, it was generally about the presidential branch and it remains so, but during the war, it is a constitutional body, it is necessary to amend the constitution during the war , you can’t introduce it with him, but still thanks to the fact that this bill became necessary for us to get candidacy in the eu, and those amendments were made to it that insisted on it from the very beginning a large part of the media community, and the medis detector in particular, they still liberalized what concerns, first of all, the regulation of online media, because well, in fact, the authority to regulate both the press and online media has been expanded, and well, in the form in which it is now regulation of online media is more or less acceptable, because there, without a court, they can only block e-e for two weeks, and only
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those e-e online media that are not registered well , i still think that e -civilized online media are not blunders they can register, it's voluntary registration well, for example, the media detector will definitely be registered if you register, then without a court you will not be blocked in any way, or closed for uh, it can't be like that, we understand that there is a problem in our courts well , uh, but at the same time, this affected because we treason at one time could not even do anything with pro-russian tv channels, yes, they sued and won these here so that well, i think that first of all, it will take a very long time to implement this law, there is still a lot of work to be done to adopt it within this of the law. i think that it is possible to work more or less normally. in other words, i do not share the green eye for the concern right now of
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some of our foreign colleagues regarding this law. i think that at this stage it is more or less normal, many believe that it is a direct threat freedom of speech and how do you see it? well, it is clear that in the war regime we all came to different measurements, yes. freedom of speech, but for the future, how can we still not lose it? well, first of all, everything depends on civil society. so there is a great danger the fact that after the war of power the temptation of control over the informational space of television will remain, first of all, it does not control the entire integration space, but television, well, the big uh tv channels, it controls the national national, yes, this temptation will definitely remain and it will depend on us on how civil society will be able to pressure and through his tools and through the council i think that well
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