we can increase the quality of weapons or increase the quality itself, well, let's say the quality of certain types of weapons that will be delivered to us well, i have not seen such in russia. maybe i don't see that there will be scanders, new scanders. i don't see that new calibers are being assembled, new calibers with new qualities, yes they will be the same, but the number of people is only fully armed , the number of the same artillery equipment is large in them, and here there will be a war between quality and quantity . by your quality, which by their quality advantage. and that is the question. by the way, we are not the only ones talking about this. it is not only there that the same president austin, uh, our president, not only lloyd, has written very well about it so far. minister well, yes

, the secretary of defense of the united states and now the secretary of state of the article that came out there well, literally there 10 days ago she said that in principle time may be playing in our favor and therefore we need to hurry in order to have a better position in the future in the negotiations, you know, i read about the fact that while we are waiting for help from our partners and we are obsessed with help, let's say ukroboronprom has already developed and tested in practice uh, a drone. can shoot enemy machine guns from the sky at enemy positions, this is also some kind of micro, we now know little about what ukrobo does - ukroboronprom heard about drones that can fly and hit targets at a distance of up to a thousand kilometers, there, too. well as i understand that something is being done, but i want to ask you as a specialist, and specifically from law enforcement

, to ask your opinion about the story about denis borisovich kileev, pavlo was shot in kyiv, and there was an article blindly by jordan, i think everyone read it there, who in english, who in translation. i don’t know if there is a translation, well, in any case, i read it in english. and you know, it causes strange feelings on the one hand. why voice such nuances for people who do not know anything about intelligence or any internal issues, please explain, well, american journalists interviewed them, they gave these interviews, they made an article. why was this said , because apart from misunderstanding in society, it did not cause anything, because we are not specialists in this and we do not know many nuances, which mr. budanov and other participants of this event obviously know about discussions, please, you understand. yes, any journalist, any journalist, he needs sensation, he needs publicity and he needs material that will attract attention to the publication and which will be quoted in the world, this is his money, this is his money and his works and

that's why when they receive such information, well, you and the journalists, you understand, yes, you put it out , you will receive such information, you check if this information is valid, if it is definitely confirmed by some sources there, you publish it, and you are proud of the fact that you received such valuable information in principle the washington post has already done so. he received information that, in his opinion, is sufficiently valuable, which is quite sensational, on the one hand, because, in principle, here is a russian businessman, a punk, who worked for the main administration of development but what was he killed later by the security service of ukraine, how do i feel about all these stories? well, how wild was the comment of podalyak about the lack of cooperation, the lack

of coordination between the gur and the sbu, yes, here this really speaks to the huge problems that exist in the intelligence community of ukraine. if this was the case, let's say this comment impressed me the most, and it's unpleasant to impress. i 'm being honest. the head of the same security service of ukraine was ivan bakanov, let's hope that under the current leadership the situation has changed and it was possible to reach the consensus necessary for work. thank you very much, mr. viktor, for this extremely meaningful conversation. of our anton korenevich marathon lawyers - internationalist ambassador of special assignments of the ministry of foreign affairs

glory to ukraine, ambassador, we congratulate you for a long time , we will not drag the cat by the tail, so to speak, the european parliament adopted an extremely important a symbolic resolution on the creation of a special tribunal to investigate russian and belarusian crimes, including official crimes against ukraine, but what is this resolution filled with, in particular, how declarative is it, how much will it affect the process of creating a special table, well, first of all, the text of the resolution is very good, very high-quality and contains all the key elements which are important for us. at this stage, it is very important that this is the first special resolution of the european parliament that is dedicated to the issue of creating a special court exclusively for it, because before that we had four resolutions of the european parliament as a whole on the situation in ukraine on the legal consequences of russian aggression, and there was support for the creation of a special tribunal on the crime of aggression against ukraine, but there was no special act, now

it is therefore definitely this is a step forward and this is very serious support, but you just showed the results of the vote, i think they are more than eloquent and they show that this is the position of the absolute majority of european parliamentarians, this is the position of the european parliament. i believe that the very important provisions of the resolution are, in particular, in particular appeals to the eu institutions, in particular the european commission of the european external action service, to strengthen the work with ukraine in order to find the most acceptable legal and technical solutions for the creation of a special tribunal, therefore this is a very important resolution, which i hope will speed up the movement of the need to create a special tribunal you know i would like to ask you as a lawyer , an internationalist, as an e-e ambassador with special assignments from the ministry of foreign affairs. please tell me how to explain these constant refusals from officials of various countries of the european union about the fact that we are ready to provide something but we did not

receive requests from ukraine or we did not receive a request from poland, germany says about leopard tanks, now in the netherlands they say we are ready to provide ukraine with f16 fighter jets but we did not receive a request from ukraine and there are a lot of such moments when, well, it seems that the question rests on some document that someone somewhere did not sign or did not know what to sign . how to explain it in human language, because it takes a lot of time. here you are. give us a request for now it will be written while it will be directed while it will be considered well, as if we were already ready why i somehow it can be done faster is everything like this, do you know any words that have to veil something well, i can only answer on that track regarding the track on which i am working on responsibility for non-trivial crimes and, in particular, for the creation of a special tribunal, everyone knows the request of ukraine, which is very clearly and as clearly articulated by the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi, minister of foreign affairs dmytro, a colleague of the representatives of the president's office about people's deputies, the prosecutor general,

about the fact that we need a special report on the crime of aggression against our state , that is, here. our position is absolutely clear, absolutely transparent. it is clear to everyone, and i don't think that there are any questions, requests or anything else that could be important . everyone knows our position uh really now we have to sit down at the table uh consultation negotiations in which we have already done and continue to do so in order to look for effective legal and technical solutions for further questioning and in the end, to create a special ugu p embassy , ​​going back to the history of the special tribunal, which model do you think would be effective? well , the key difference from other, so to speak , previous tribunals, in particular those that investigated crimes against the civilian population in the former yugoslavia in rolandia and so on and so then the war there was already ending, that is, and as far as i understand , the key story is the key difference

from the current situation that the war is ongoing. perhaps it will continue for quite a long time. well, accordingly, access to war criminals who belong to the top of the kremlin is, frankly speaking, limited as to how to be er well, you know, i think that it is important to talk about the fact that for us the model of creating a special tribunal is acceptable, which is as international as possible, that is, which involves the maximum involvement of international partners in its creation, whether through the mechanisms of the united nations, to learn the mechanisms for a multilateral international treaty, that is, for us, the more international participation in the creation of the tribunal , the better, because ukraine itself such a tribunal definitely cannot be created, this tribunal will have a significant feature and differences from the tribunals that you specifically

mentioned, as well as the yugoslav irish one, because it will deal only with the crime of aggression, that is, the crime that caused all other serious international crimes committed on the territory of ukraine by the russians war crimes , crimes against inequality, crimes of genocide, etc., and accordingly, the yugoslav, irish, other tribunals covered precisely war crimes, crimes against lviv, we don't have genocide the need to create a tribunal for these categories because there is an international criminal court that deals with these three categories. in other words, by creating a special tribunal for the crime of aggression against ukraine, we are closing the gap that currently exists because there is no international court or tribunal that can judge specifically for the commission of the crime of aggression against ukraine well, regarding the question that the war is going on, yes, the war is going on. but i will give one good historical example, er, the london sea games - a declaration on the need to attract er nazi criminals to be held accountable for

crimes committed during the second world war was signed on january 13, 1942. the relevant mechanisms were created in 1945 . then please tell me, well, the tribunal is clear that the one who will be asked should be the defendant at the tribunal. it is about putin and lukashenko. will they be put on an international wanted list? i understood that putin can leave his country for a long time and never at all. leave well, but can spectribuva take place without the presence of, say, one and the other accused in this case of genocide in unleashing a war against ukraine. will it be stated in the statute whether the terminal will work on psent or not. although the majority

of modern international criminal tribunals, except for one special tribunal fan, do not work for life, but i think it is important to understand that in in this situation, the indictments themselves, indictments , and arrest warrants, will be a very important element on the way to justice. well, we understand that various situations can happen, which can actually lead to the fact that the defendants will be on the dock to meet me i would like to clarify to the embassy. well, they created a tribunal. god grant that the model will be as effective as possible. we understand that the composition was chosen or appointed. all honest, decent, conscientious and active people, and that's what happened after that. well, the first meeting took place, if only for a long time. held these meetings in order to establish the key story about the act of unprovoked military aggression, which was accompanied by

numerous war crimes against the civilian population, the key task now is to create a special terminal on moment, i think that after the special terminal is created, it will be able to act quite effectively and quickly, since the crime of aggression is quite simple to prove and it is understandable members of the international community, especially in such a situation as we have russian aggression against ukraine, when it is the largest aggressive war in europe after the second world war and when we have essentially unanimous condemnation of this act of aggression by international organizations, in particular in the resolution of the un general assembly, therefore i i think that the investigation process itself will not take much time and will be much faster than the investigation process of war crimes, crimes against humanity, and

the crime of genocide. well, actually, you know. what i wanted to ask is that lukashenko always tried to distance himself from putin on the issue that he was not involved in the resolution of the war. and here he goes together with putin, and it is very interesting whether there will be other people accused of the initiator of this war. in fact, these are the leaders of the propaganda of the russian we are talking about the ministry of foreign affairs, headed by lavro and lavrov, their information army, and we are also throwing the puck at other people in general, recognizing russia as guilty as a state, because in principle, we see today that a bunch of russians support special operations and are happy to wash away not to the council or not to the council, but they are going to die on the territory of ukraine in this unjust war well, the fact is that we really see such an approach in the resolution of the european parliament, such an approach of the european parliamentarians from the point of view of international law can only point out that the definition of an act of aggression includes the provision of one's territory of your state to commit an act of aggression against a third state, that is, from

the point of view of international law, this is an act of aggression even if you do not directly participate in hostilities. it seems to me that from the point of view of international law, it will the answer is as to who can be a defendant in the dock of a special tribunal. it should definitely be the higher political and military leadership of the russian federation, because the crime of aggression is precisely the crime of those persons who can respond to orders for the start and introduction of an aggressive war, who exactly will it be definitely this should be decided by the judges after the creation of the special court. but i think that the names you mention should obviously be of interest to this court. thank you very much. anton korenevich was with us, an international lawyer, the ambassador from the special instructions of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, er, well, it's actually an important topic, and it's very important here that, of course, the ball experts and our international partners have worked on this matter. so happy for putin too - this knife

should hang not retreating, but actually how the threat of ukrainian ukrainian weapons hangs for him was not in vain, of course, putin put the circle of his dacha in the odintsov air defense system in the same way . he should display some kind of moral a warning from this tribunal and must understand that there is no way out for him, as they say, or i'm taking you to the registry office, or she 's taking me to the prosecutor, well, it's obvious that his mother took him to the prosecutor, i antin read about what the newly appointed minister of defense of germany pistorius spoke and said about the fact that they did not reach an agreement on the supply of leopard-2 tanks on the territory of our country, and with such details, the topic with leopards 2 is overgrown with some nuances, and how much germany's position is not understood here. that, to be honest, hands do not go down. i think that they do not go down to our er, well, to our officials who are dealing with this, but it is very strange that the key stage of the war is actually under threat, the entire european continent. putin will definitely not stop, and he definitely did not stop in ukraine and at this moment, well, the

appointment of the minister. i understand that olafsholz's game government is starting to think of something and the state of those who simply need to give ukraine and forget about this issue, i think that we can simply criticize the beans, yes, but a certain loftholz has certain visions of his own, in particular he is primarily the chancellor of germany and does not work in our ukrainian government. well, unfortunately, only with the help of instruments of international public and non-public pressure, we think that the germans will be able to be swayed to a cardinal decision, here it is not even a question of germany handing out tanks to vasyl, so that germany gave permission to other states that are ready to supply leopard 2 to supply them in the country because the key story is, so to speak, the final signature of the state of the manufacturer of those tanks well, let's hope that they will still press the rings and in the end rammstein in itself is of course an important

meeting, but let's hope that our american friends will somehow be able to speed up the sun well, you see, the poles say that we will give you tanks even if there is no permission from germany, well, we will wait in in any case, today at 18:30 we remind you. we are waiting for the final press conference of today's meeting of the rammstein format and you will see the espresso tv channel in the hotel, wait now pavlo latushko, deputy chairman of the united transitional cabinet head of the people's anti-crisis administration of belarus, belarusian diplomat, mr. pavlo, we congratulate you, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, long live belarus, mr. pavly. well, accordingly, we are talking about the special tribunal for putin and lukashenko 's attention. president, well , first of all, glory to the heroes and long live belarus, if we are talking about the fact that yesterday the resolution of the european parliament was adopted, which

calls for creating a special international the tribunal for crimes connected with the aggression of russia with the support of the lukashenko regime in ukraine is a very important political message, but we understand that the institute itself is not created in this way, that is, it is rather a very serious political signal that was accepted by the absolute majority of european meps for the rulers by the way, yesterday i spoke with the leader of the group , the rapporteur on belarus in the european parliament, peter samouzdravichu, this is exactly the deputy from lithuania, he said that this is a resolution will be sent to all governments, and it was we who spoke about the fact that it is important that it be received by the ministers of justice of those countries that support the creation of a special international tribunal

. the general assembly of the organization of the united nations in 1974 at number 33:14 actually confirmed that the provision of the territory of a foreign state for the existence of aggression from this territory in relation to the third state is aggression. so that international law here is absolutely, very clearly, very unambiguously, it qualifies the activity of lukashenko , the military junta, his generals are bullshit, in olfovich's paw, the chairman of the border committee, and with them, as well as the persons who contributed to the aggression, in the future, it is necessary to finally carry out legal relationship in connection with the victims that happened and is happening on the territory of ukraine, and there may be several

pieces of evidence, first of all, the invasion of russian troops from the north to the territory of ukraine when on february 24 lukashenko opened the border and the russian troops went in the direction of kiev and went through bucha gostomel and irpen and we understand that there is a direct connection between lukashenko's assistance to the russian troops and the terrible victims that were caused by the russians by the military personnel of the territory of ukraine, we should be talking about the shelling of the territory of ukraine and the territory of belarus when lukashenko gave such an opportunity to the russian anti-aircraft missile unit to launch shelling and the russian aviation enters the airspace of belarus and carries out missile strikes . lukashenko himself confirmed that the special forces of the kgb entered the territory of ukraine to

carry out a task. lukashenko 's groups and his military on the territory of ukraine are here. i think that there may be enough facts to establish a direct link between lukashenko's actions and his growth. something in aid of the russian troops and in the victims who were sent to the territory of ukraine. and please tell me, do you know when the minister of foreign affairs died? indeed, belarus was talking about the fact that he was almost the only one. -e chain that connected belarus and western partners and there were some other negotiations, but as of now there will be some contact of lukashenka with the outside world except the russian federation and can we really say that belarus retains at least some pretense of sovereignty in making certain decisions

referring to lukashenka's clarification of his cabinet of ministers and power structures, is it still worth saying that these are already de facto fully under the control of the kremlin and talk about some unexpected decisions of lukashenka for the kremlin? yesterday, by the way, he chose such a phrase, probably immediately frightened that he said it in the presence of lavrov about the fact that sometimes we in this country have communication with the west коммуникация есть, well, i'll tell you from my experience in the words of when we tried to normalize relations with the polish government before the visits at the level of the prime minister of belarus, the head of the parliament of belarus, literally a day before these visits, very serious incidents related to the detention of, for example, military and other poles by excesses on the state

border and we are then in the composition, even a whole list of lists of lists, a list of all the situations that gave us reasons to assume that everything is behind it the russian special services and the kgb of belarus , in fact, if even lukashenko were to introduce himself, he would now try to normalize well, i don't want to normalize, i will say the word, well, establish some contacts that will lead to some kind of weakening of the tough position of the west . the territory of belarus is simply colossal, so i don’t believe even this scenario from the point of view of implementation, if it is in lukashenko’s head, well, we can imagine what putin is saying today lukashenko has normalized relations with the west. i don't think so. but again, lukashenko is under the full financial and economic control of the russian federation. today, 70% of exports go to the russian federation. today, all financial resources and financial holes close the budget of the

russian federation. lukashenko lukashenko is interested in as many contracts as possible in the interests of the russian federation . he is now rebuilding industry for militarized industry when this industry will work on the military-industrial complex of the russian federation receives resources for the construction of the third nuclear power unit at the belarusian nuclear power plant without paying for the 10 billions of the previous two units, that is, the deep dependence of mr. lukashenko on putin will lead to his communication with the west to some result. well, i don't believe in this scenario . the demand will be yes . i agree. or rather, we even used it, we talked about it on the air of ukrainian tv channels, while still being the first deputy minister of foreign affairs

, oleynyk flew to switzerland and delivered such a dialogue, they will try to impose such channels , but how effective will they be? that the russian federation, in particular, cream. i don't know whether due to their own paranoia or for some other reason , they are increasingly using medieval diplomatic messengers who are supposed to personally deliver these or other notes so at one time medvedev was sent to beijing. well, now lavrov went to minsk again with an unclear purpose. what do you think lavrov could have brought about medvedev's trip to beijing? i decided there as a friend and we need an ally in the form of china, which will support russia's aggression. we are talking about communication with the west, this is a completely different aspect. lavrov came to a regular meeting, this is a meeting of colleagues of the ministry of foreign

affairs. experience as the head of the information department of the ministry of foreign affairs did not come to participate in such meetings. as a rule, this is a lot baltology, there are many empty protocols of coordination of activities within the framework of the organization, it is in the young nations of the osce, there used to be a site for europe, well now, the role of russia and belarus in the un has been completely eliminated for the simple reason that these are two rogue countries if we are talking about the councils of europe, russia i went to belarus and it never happened, and the office of the representative office of belarus from europe was closed while he was the ambassador to france and was responsible for the work of this office in strasbourg in france, so they can coordinate there and shout louder what are we here for the truth, what are we for justice, but i don’t know who is ready to believe these words, ah, but an interesting fact that there was a one-on-one meeting, that is, over that, eh, according to lukashenko with the laurel, eh, he even put it outside the door

minister of foreign affairs oleynyka, uh, but what they said, of course, we don’t know, but i think that here we can talk about the implementation of the secret protocol that was signed by shaygus khrenin, do you remember that unexpected visit to minsk and the signing of this agreement , according to our average, this protocol imposes fingerboard it is completely secret and its contents are known by literally a few people who say that it is in it. well , earlier it was called the figure of 100,000 joint grouping of belarusian servicemen and russian servicemen. i think that the topic of war was definitely the main topic discussed by lukashenko and lavrov, but he asked for more money. he always

asks for money, money, money, money, because his power is provided by him. he understands that if he is a dictator without a gold reserve, as in a famous movie, then his days are numbered. well, only russia can give a gold reserve . thank you very much, mr. pavlo. for a detailed and interesting conversation, pavlo latushko, deputy chairman of the united transitional cabinet of belarus , head of the people's anti-crisis administration, the belarusian diplomat was with us, that it is from the polish media. by the way, they appreciate lavrov's visit to lukashenko was extremely interesting . lukashenko was clearly stressed at the meeting with lavrov. his body language betrayed him. polish journalists are writing about it. well, maybe we'll talk. let's talk a little. by the way, he looked at lavrov. this video was. i understand it from the meeting between lavrov and lukashenka, or not from this one, or maybe from before, well, lavrov doesn’t look very good either, at least this bug- the yellow complexion is like journalists so

, about lukashenko, he sat stiffly on the edge of the sofa and you together and was clearly nervous when his the interlocutors seemed to be free and relaxed. lavrov listens to lukashenko's answers with the face of a poker player and from time to time only a barely noticeable way of nodding his head lavrov nods because it is likely that the president of belarus says in detail that the russian politician wants would like to hear, well, that's how we'll actually talk, in any case, we'll break off for 10 minutes with antin and get back to you after my colleague anzhelika sizonenko will tell you about the most important news at this hour. anzhelika, please, without words