six from the point of view of providing and repairing our, i will say our ukrainian leopards, two , that is, this rex will be done without the permission of germany in literally a few seconds, and the consequences will be such that if poland , for example, is the first to do it, germany will still, er, hmm, go this way and allow it already post facto and the blacksmiths will join this because today there is no reason for germany to violate its relations with its closest partners within the framework of nato and the european union. that is, it can be just such an ok to anticipate let's say so before that a decision that she does not dare to take now, a step ahead thank you, maria zolkina mykhailo, you were with us on the air, we summarized the results of the meeting at rammstein, this is the

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a military analyst in the central defense of israel, the former, congratulations, mr. gel. good evening. give ukraine leopards and we generally talk about it on our air all the time, what kind of idea in principle exists , why don't they give these leopards, look, we see that on the surface, some political solution is clear, so we can goes to the depths from this surface to dig, and here we are, eh, the new german defense minister said that the countries that promised to give ukraine leopards have no problem with the germans, so that the ukrainian crew there started training, that is, why are such applications made ? well what is this, how would such a square scandal be, that is, we will not give it strictly unilaterally, and then it is about the fact that you can prepare, plus, he reacted positively suddenly

, with poltenberg, the general secretary of nato, he says that the question itself, how would these leopards at least that's as positive as it is, here we have a moment. well, that is, if it's weakly categorical, the second thing will be rejected here. as it seems to me, it's a question from time literally . it seems to me that a week is two or three days. the fighters are holding the front , yes, it’s not necessary to spend, what does it have to do with it? release the leopard, release the leopards, but in some sense the purpose of this political decision is how to explain it because there should be some real explanations, see when we talked about a political decision specifically for germany, the germans, well, if we were talking about a categorical refusal, it is clear that the germans want to be last that is, to stay in the

tails, that is, who will give you desks, that is, they have, uh , historical trauma from the second world war, any weapon can be viewed differently in one way or another, but you this is the collective consciousness of the tank in front of pantsir - this is a weapon of aggression - this is a weapon of spray - this is what made them able to conquer all of europe and for what in essence they ordered then a and they want then well, they are again salt often you are his volitional decision and he doesn’t want it . in the history books, we understand now everything that they are doing. strictly speaking, the events of all these people will be written on the first pages of textbooks so that when it will be written that the germans surrendered the tanks, he was the last through i'm hungry after great britain, after france, and after the united states, that's why i'd like him to be there somewhere, the tails, how would it be? i did n't depend on him. as if not

counting this on someone at the end there, they are not the main one, that is, it is all great britain, the united states, and they started it, they passed it on. they were the main locomotives here, someone moved everything , not germany, that is, they are at least one мотивов это вопросы how does it seem to me? not a politician. it seems to me that what is happening in the heads of this person and those close to him is happening at the same time. i am saying this once again. everything indicates that this is a question to be suppressed. yes, in the spent days or weeks, these are precious. well, how is the nomenclature of weapons perceived at all? in rammstein, they suggested that it can be considered er masturbation weapons, look at er separation of offensive and defensive, this is such a journalist, political separation , military does not separate weapons, offensive and defensive, if we talk about it, weapons in the potential of the control entry of the ukrainian and there is at least 70,700 combat armored vehicles, all of which are possible, including

all allies and partners that have just agreed, including excellent models of combat vehicles, and of course, it does not cure nonsense to this, they can fight tanks , they will destroy them in iraq, there were presidents when they faced t-72 tanks and came out victorious in battle, that is, they destroyed them thanks to such a missile, i don’t even consider humvee all-terrain vehicles which ukraine, by the way, also used in its control offensive operations as a weapon of breakthrough after breaking through to enter the operational space, this is a powerful reinforcement , really if we are all these, the sums that will be improved are complex, the area comes out to be about four and a half or five billion dollars is colossal , that 's a lot, well, in a one-time package, it's like a package of aid.

to say that there is something grandiose of a universal level. but this is a powerful, very strong package, stronger than many others that were with uh, good, different patterns, moreover, for example, a swedish archer who knew for sure that they would be practically considered the best self-propelled guns in in their class, they have a great advantage, as they differ, and so on. there are other salvos of such high caliber, even modern panzergobytsy that cannot pin down very quickly , they can turn around to strike strikes also quickly uh-uh uh-uh get away without putting yourself under counter-battery fight , that's why yes, it's powerful, strong, good packages, where hundreds of combat vehicles and other different systems are very powerful , as far as it can be considered that this is similar if you

carefully consider this entire list, move it. here is an example. it will be effective. and concentrate on one area, that is, you will see how it will be deciphered. so we see that the americans are somehow hinting, well, they are hinting, well , someone from the country is looking at us. you understand what the alkaline general staff of ukraine does not hint that there are direct negotiations going on. everything is clear to us, they know very well the needs of the general staff of ukraine and what needs to be transferred, so we see that this is a list of some avengers, this is a specific area, that is, there are many of these weapons, indeed, there are enough of them for so that it would be possible to gather a-a to those brigades that are in ukraine, it is known that not all the forces hold the front of ukraine, there are parts that are getting ready a-a the communication passage is being converted for some part of it

in order to go to such an operational level to go to the counter introduction, the creative level - this level that connects the tactical level, strategic and useful, you smell it exactly, he also said about it that it will be very difficult but impossible, and yes, this year, which offensive events of ukraine will be able to be here, but it will be very difficult. according to the point of view of the government milla, that ukraine will not be able to liberate all its territories this year, and they said yes categorically if you read the analog he said that it will be very difficult, that is unlikely, but very difficult, well, look, i said yes yes, that is, uh, he is a conservative in his statements, that is, people of such a level and such a rank are not conservative at all. look, if it is not possible to leave ukraine, yes, he will say, look. i said, if it works, he will say, look. they were able to do it, it’s difficult to do it, they were able to go through this path, these odors, these thorns, so i

would n’t, i wouldn’t have fooled these words. really complicated, no matter how the world has not seen it for a long time, in principle, here it is, as far as possible , that the forecasts are justified, that the russian armed forces may actually attack, that they are just preparing the instruction, well, look now in we have a hundred of the general staff. yes, let's look at the official, as if given, or to say that this is the problem there in bakhmut and in general , the eastern direction in zaporozhye, the former plus was activated. we have cadres , as they asked to speak there . directed the artillery, broke their formations, the offensive did not retreat, but our genstv itself admits that the offensive began, well, the zaporozhian direction of the enemy was not successful, but they will move there

i hope that the birth will be successful, everything will be adequate and respond competently, if we are talking about some large, large , superseding operations, about which, well, now, here are the throws, for the last few weeks, they said that you will start to hear a lot of excitement there the lviv landing near odessa is all in the hands of the kremlin, look again, they crossed something out there: 300,000 that they would like to mobilize and could not, 250,000, this is accurate just to fulfill the losses of their bloodless units narcopilated territories so that only the territories live or goes into the offensive at the tactical level of bakhmutskaya from the direction of zaporozhye, this is still the entire tactical level a-a mm-m this number is 250,000 a-a this is not so that they deploy an offensive group, let's say, in the northern direction and those more is involved in odessa, but the military is how they consider it. here are all the options. this is the most fantastic . near odessa, that is, it will end for them with

the maximum probability of failure, including the northern border, as if they are not left without attention. this is unlikely, but could there be any such mannerisms, which many are now talking about , that russia will take some steps to divert resources from ukrainian armed villages in the belarusian direction to the northern annexation of ukraine? to concentrate on the donbass is such a tactic. of course, they use it all the time . here are all the questions about what a group is preparing there, what kind of field forces are being created so that, uh , probably not yet maneuvers, now they have aviation there conducting exercises and so on well, this is all being done, well, now there are reports in the media about, er, we are ready to mobilize, a printed summons , that’s all, now, in general, semi-fantastic stuff about

tanks, how soldiers are transported in tanks, i’m like, well, this is nonsense, like, uh, of course, that’s all questions like the questions are so and so, indeed, they are there maneuvers, exercises, that is all connected with whom, so that ukraine does not guess its northern border, it is standing on its own, holding some subdivisions, and of course, ukraine has a devastation that is also in the west. what do you think, in principle, in this situation which are now established, which are real goals between themselves, with themselves, putin will tighten as much as possible, and to escalate the escalation, the very fact of mobilization, which began in september, as it would have been said, this is how the plug would have been. yes, he i could go to the disqualification, i could go to the disqualification, well, i chose the path of escalation, and then they will delay it as much as possible. that is, they ask, uh, they say that the gur says the second wave, they have mobilizations, there are memories, since their mobilization did not officially end, they cannot

continue to catch people and eh, they will send them to the east, and the novoeast of ukraine in the occupied territory, eh, but the idea of ​​​​extending them as much as possible is given when the west, for some dirty reason or some of their naughty eh, or some kind of activism will happen some events, economically, some , well, they can’t reach ukraine, that is, they take time as much as possible. in order to withdraw influence from ukraine , the president of northern macedonia managed to talk to the balkans about kosovo and the republic of serbia, and i see certain dangers in the middle east thanks to our colleagues, russia is growing, so by the way, we should not

forget about africa there, for example, in the central african republic, there are strong positions of that beggar, nice to the prime minister, eh, in general, it’s a good time, officers, and we know that we are on the first place, so how is there well , we have so many such black spots , it is not clear what is actually happening, so this is not new, we have had examples in history, of course, russia is interested in having points of tension , having points of instability, having points such uncontrollable chaos. as much as possible in the world, it did not allow the world to concentrate on the russian-ukrainian war in israel, as the current defeat is read, she understands this iranian danger, the danger of the fact that only cooperation with russia will only strengthen the russian readiness to help serana because it is imperceptible none uh, the reaction from jerusalem, well, look, we need to separate the military, of course, if we

look at what the israeli military is talking about , it is mostly clear that they are not combatants there centuries of terrorists, and i discuss veterans, such as routines, working moments, and ram , how the main enemy of the publication is viewed, if the internal publication of the military is dedicated to the end of the morning, and everything that is connected today is something from the public. не этого времение i couldn't dare what kind of comments people write here, citizens of israel, it 's clear that oh-oh secondary level, all citizens of israel are такой, that's how they would be because of the fact that the enemy played a threat to israel, that's right, and what's the matter the existence of threats in israel is simply not simple. the rival is economic, what is political, i don’t think that these, as you would see, some have changed, they have changed everything . well, i do not contact the

tesco army, that is, it is contacted by israeli officers. and not only what do you think, in principle, here is how far it is possible to consider that all these threats are russian, that i have done, the state does not lose this bravado or this is still the preparation of some plan in case of defeat no, well, look, well, the usa says that they lost in vietnam, the soviet union lost in uh , in afghanistan, israel left, this is considered to be an otratic general in israel, it lost , and left lebanon, too, well , israel is a thief let's say here is the competence to give accurate answers here , well, one way or another, he left, as it were, from lebanon, just like the americans, lisa , vietnam, that is, we see how our state is here, yes here it is only china he gave in the suit and lost the answer, uh, um , and things like practice me if i'm

wrong, but it seems that by then maus had already blown an atomic bomb, but when he lost to vietnam, it seems that i was in no hurry to use uh , against the anti-vietnam, that that is, we have many such examples in the world. and of course, a nuclear state can lose. do you allow such a serious escalation with the use of weapons of mass destruction and at what stage ? let's just dispute what the ukrainian generals say, as well as the syrian and others. at the highest level, they said that such a threat is just formal . but one way or another, today all the people who are engaged in analytics and reviews or directly connected with the army, with power structures, and especially with

intelligence and so on, agree that the chances are not high, in the end, not high but himself the fact that there is no such possibility . of course, they do not make it zero, that is, even if you only have two percent if there are 2% probabilities, or there is one percent probability if the probability is equal, then it is very low. of some questions, when we can't always understand what is behind the theorems, the kremlin's decisions, thank you and gal levin, the official defense of israel, a military analyst, they are in touch. and now we will talk about what happened in davos, a rather important topic a forum where ukraine was in one of the central positions, it is very important, of course, to realize that now ukraine continues to be at the center of world politics, we will talk with people's deputy of ukraine iryna herashchenko greetings, mrs. iryna good

evening to all viewers of live espresso espresso you see professional in fact if we are talking about live and about er-e dovost, the journalist directly under er-e asked a question to mr. shults two days ago during a session in davos regarding when tanks will be provided to ukraine and there was no such direct answer, we see that , unfortunately, today in rammstein confirmation of this non-answer regarding tanks was recorded as well, unfortunately, unfortunately, and how do you explain it a-a i am very disappointed with this position a-a important of course, germany declared about the fact that in the fall ukraine will receive a billion euros of support, including military

support, but germany continues to live in this paradigm of historical guilt for the two previous wars, and they are the formal talks of german politicians they repeatedly say that they still believe that the steps there can further increase russia's aggression and irritate russia. it should not be done, and it seems to me that we must continue to work very actively with the german elites to prove that russia only understands the language of force, and in this case, the german understands tanks this contribution will be peacemaking and not that we will push russia to a new aggression, the aggression is ongoing, the war is ongoing, everything is very difficult, and actually the tanks here will definitely not stand in the way of any kind of aggression that the russian federation is clearly planning during the dovol forum, we heard the words of the

former state secret of the united states henriquesi zhive, who for the first time said so absolutely clearly that ukraine should become a member of nato, he previously spoke of such a cautious part of the euro-atlantic structure , but now he expressed himself so absolutely the views of the turnout in a whole layer of informed american experts, politicians, political scientists, it was not by chance that he said so, what do you think, and you, these statements of his were very noticed in davos and a constant subject such a wide discussion during the ukrainian traditional lunch at the main events and panels in general this year, probably for the first time at the economic forum, how much was said about weapons and how much was said about the future of nato, and realizing that the world economy today depends on weapons depends on how the war ends in ukraine and here

it is very important. i think i should also note the fact that it was during the david forum that the so-called tallinn initiative was signed, when 9 countries announced the strengthening of military support for ukraine, including the baltic countries, which are our key lobbyists regarding nato. it seems to me that now is an important time to activate the nato dialogue in order for ukraine to receive clear signals , because you are right in that voicing the position of certain american circles there is extremely important, especially in the context of the fact that the american elections will start soon but uh, nato with skeptics about ukraine remains a very large number of countries of the european union, and their names are obvious, and with these countries it is now necessary to start actively working with germany, including, and what do you think how

to change the point of view of the european elites a-a it seems to me that the best negotiator today is really our armed forces of ukraine, but you know, i had the opportunity to follow several dovus let's say that the davo from last year did not take place in january as the traditional one in may due to the covid-19 restrictions , and for the first time it happened in the same way without russians, without a russian house, without their business, the oligarchy. but there was a lot of talk about ukraine and, first of all, the crimes were recorded in russia. there was absolutely such a shock after buchi. it's important. such emotions are joyful. after the liberation of kyiv, but now the atmosphere is changing a lot and there was not a single speech in which you did not sound admiration for the armed forces of ukraine, so i want to quote and uh-e tails clearance of the vice-prime minister and minister of finance of canada, who very clearly stated that

today and the world there is to learn in ukraine. imagine if the ukrainian armed forces did not oppose russia so strongly, and kyiv would be captured if poland felt today. of the people, etc. it seems to me that this awareness is the result of such honor, courage and devotion to values, more faithfully to ukrainians, they are the best agitator for the fact that ukraine today she is really fighting for those values, well , on which the european union is based as a platform and nato in principle, how do you perceive, perceive the mood in davos, the mood of the western entrepreneurial elite has changed, compared to the

peaceful years. realizing that today's investments are such interventions, even military and armed ones for the ukrainian army. they protect the economy of europe because everyone is suffering terrible losses because of this war, and it is very important that the realization of the possibility of a complete rejection of russian energy carriers is coming already in may on the previous website of such a... well , there were only discussions in this direction, but now the prime minister of the netherlands is declaring that it is possible to completely abandon russian gas and we must move towards this is very important for ukraine, as world elites see the post-war reconstruction of ukraine, and in this context it was interesting that such big business sharks,

primarily in the field of it, managed to come to a traditional ukrainian breakfast. they talked about the attractiveness of ukraine. about the attractiveness of e- hmm, the ukrainian potential and human resources of the highly educated and such are still showing today, well, absolutely excellent positions, but our partners at the same time are very clearly indicated, i would like the government to hear these signals about the importance of the fight against corruption and the transfer use, for example, of this financial technical assistance that is coming to ukraine today. it seems to me that the more transparent the use of this aid will be, the more active the role will be played here, including the parliament as a monitoring and controlling function the more we can count on help from these signals to the authorities, it is very important that they want to know how realistic it is to talk about the reconstruction of ukraine now, when in principle no one knows when the war will end

at what economic opportunities it ends, what will be the status of the parties after the end of the war, and what will be the security guarantees , not even for you and me, but for those investors who will want to invest money in ukraine, these are very correct questions and definitely ah-ah they sounded during the forum and to me it seems that what you brought up is that a lot will depend on when and on what terms the war will end. there is no answer as to what to do with russia. it seems to me that these signals that came from the european parliament this week are very important in this direction. the european parliament adopted a resolution on the creation of a special tribunal regarding the responsibility of both putin and lukashenko, and it is important that this tribunal be created so that it is implemented, but it is obvious that business will come to ukraine