the people who are on the walls and were in this helicopter should be discarded if there is only an error by the crew or a technical malfunction in the plan, well, something went wrong, you know how there is wiring, there is lubricant , something well, this is already technically for further analysis so that this does not happen, but here is the first version against the version, it should be worked out more thoroughly and quickly either confirmed or denied. it seems to me that during the next week, next week, we should hear at least something primary , and at least veiled what happened that's why the helicopters are captured, there should be black boxes a-a theometry e-e negotiations with the crew at least to understand what happened, did the crew control the fall of this helicopter, did they report to the ground if, for example, we have some problem or did it happen all at once and no one understood anything i think that next week we will hear something, but

the investigation may last a very long time. well, the main thing is that at least certain hints were voiced, so to speak, just at one time i had to communicate with the polish by experts who studied the course of the investigation of the so -called smolensk disaster, that is, they were not directly involved in the investigation. yes , but they studied the course of it and different versions, so to speak, we understand the main difference between what happened in brovary and what happened in smolensk was that the poles could not for a long time to get normal access to the fuselage and so on, the russians dragged it out for as long as possible, dragged it out, dragged it out, and so on. so to speak, in the case of something, there was no plastid on the plane in which the president of poland and the top leadership of the

republic of poland were traveling, and ivan, here we are moving on to another . and the plastids were not detected, well, that is, for a long time, the three pushed the polish investigators away from the place of investigation, but the russian soldiers, who were waiting for them, kept the perimeter guard, they were on the bodies they took out the credit cards of the dead poles and withdrew cash from the nearest atm. well, they didn’t have any things left. well, you know this, so to speak . from ukraine, no, ivan, look here, for a moment, we understand that there is a certain protocol and fields, and they began to adhere to this

protocol extremely strictly, that representatives do not have the right to enter the same board say well , we understand almost all the political polish and the establishment, that is, not only the president died, dozens of leading polish figures who represented a very specific team were killed, well, i would like to believe that the russians would not be able to implement some malicious plan from behind, so on our territory , in particular, it is about brovary, but how similar protocols work, in particular the protocol so to speak well, the minister and the first deputy minister should not travel in the same vehicle is it an airplane is it cars and so on and the second point eh well how seriously are we ready to prepare for a possible terrorist war, why i will say

because what the russians have done recently, they withdrew from all possible conventions that they signed in the council of europe, and one of them is extremely important, in particular, it is about the support and financing of terrorist groups, very good with you we probably remember what happened when the soviet chekists stormed western europe in the 70s, that is, it is enough to remember ulrika maingov 's group and it went away. they wanted to wait for some kind of convention charter . i think there was more like this, you know, they are wagging their tails. what ah tactics are you sanctioning us, then we generally go out to wait. for one

helicopter. well, we are in a state of war now . a meeting with the local leadership. i don't know whether it was poltava, kharkiv region or there. it's closer there to the hot spots. if everyone flew separately in a rotorcraft, then i understand that our anti-corruption authorities tore these ministries to pieces. yes. that is, you allow yourself budget funds here, right? cheap, cheap flight there, for example, uah 5,000, well, that’s serious amounts there and back there and back constantly do not move, the leadership of the ministry of solar fines constantly moves south, north, east, west, some meetings by car it is inconvenient and takes a lot of time, and secondly , the minister, even in peacetime, is

an extremely preoccupied figure without exaggeration. it doesn’t matter who it was the late mr. monastyrskyi or someone else, there are many things, meetings, and every minute, every hour spent with the minister is it is not always possible to communicate with him, even the deputies can catch the minister to communicate as much as necessary, and here are such comprehensive flights on e , transportation by car allows you to solve many issues that previously could have been spent on how in two or three days, while you are a minister, he caught the union. and he has an urgent council in the cabinet of ministers. here he is called by the president. something has happened there. it is necessary to fly to the commanders on a business trip. and so they used the opportunity, but you see. unfortunately, such a story happened logically . thank you, thank you, mr. ivan. an extremely interesting, high-quality and useful conversation for our tv viewers. i would like to remind our tv viewers that ivan stupak, a military

observer, an employee of the security service of ukraine, worked for them live on the espresso tv channel. on the fourth of the 15th year, we inform you about the most important thing, we are going further, mykola volokhov obdula, the commander of the terra reconnaissance unit, who is currently in donetsk region , is informing you about the most important thing. operative information about what is happening now. well, of course, from what we can talk about live, i think that i will be able to talk about something for about 30 minutes. i myself came from accompanying the development and with counter-battery fire of our offensive measures, they simply worked with all calibers on

them, and with helicopters and pions and artillery barrels, the tanks worked and had little. and there are battles all over the world, and on the one hand, i want to reassure and please a little that we have certain modest but achievements. yes, i imagine , mr. mykola, what you put into the words about difficult hellish battles, probably there is no one in this world right now in such a hot hot region, in particular

, it is about artillery shelling , the use of aviation, and so on. what is happening now in soledar, please share what you can share, well , look, oh, about soldier, this is not the direction where i am standing directly . your comrades who are standing in that direction and the information, you know, is quite limited, even when communicating with each other. i know one thing that, uh, battles are being fought, and a certain line of defense is occupied, and it is held, it is held successfully, because it was prepared in advance there now there are now concentrated forces of ukrainian artillery and aviation and i know a lot of groups and some of them right above the successful and best

ukraine, the air development group that works there, the most modern means that are provided to us by the allies, the most modern means that we we produce, can you imagine something already, and ukraine itself produces it, maybe on an industrial scale, maybe at the level of volunteers and, uh, the military themselves, who works on it, but there is already something in the plan for a mikadze drone intelligence also uh, that's why you rather know , i wouldn't say that direct conversations are sad conversations, rather they are tuned in, you know , tuned in to a hard struggle, but with the belief that this struggle will end in victory, mr. commanders, what are the enemy groups who are now trying to to enter soledar and what

does this information that i possess represent again, what can i say that these are wagner's assault groups mixed with the regular armed forces of the russian federation, they use, i don't know how, in my opinion, all the military dirt that it is only possible that they send their soldiers to certain death, they throw meat at them, they do not spare their soldiers, this is an absolutely normal tactic for them, they actually use it wherever they can. that's why i feel sad because the coefficient is really in our favor for one dead ukrainian, they lose 10 - 15 sometimes and 20 people, but think about it, we have the best people, and they have those people whom even they themselves believe are unworthy of life and let them go, probably death, mr. mykola,

what is the situation with artillery parity, yes since the beginning of the war, the statistics were rather disappointing at first, but then the situation leveled off, if you take bakhmut soledar, what does it look like now, what does the enemy have and what doesn’t, because sometimes you have to read one or the other. secondly, so to speak, our fighters say that the enemy does not really run out of ammunition, that they use what is in soledar, what is in bahmut, not saving too much. when our unit was under kherson and with the period when we did not yet have a sufficient number of heimers and a sufficient number of advanced means to attack their

warehouses and logistics and i will honestly say what i saw and more a-and i will also not say that the enemy directly still hidden in artillery means , i won’t say what they feel directly, you know how loud phrases hunger there is, that they ca n’t answer that we have more now than they do, but they spared using artillery means, eh, they are more modest they are trying to copy our system. they are trying to introduce fire adjustments to shoot more surely than before. they spread their fires and the positions of their fire means . that is, they don’t stand there. it has gotten worse and this is a trend, we are doing something right and they are losing opportunities, so they are trying to adapt so that with the

reduction of resources they do not lose efficiency, but i do not think that they will succeed in this. by armored vehicles, in particular, we are talking about both bakhmut and soledar, we are talking about the latest t-80s or t-90s, well, look in that direction. where i worked today, today one tank and one tank were advanced from their side . who does not know beben - this an armored combat vehicle, if you don't know what exactly this is a technology factory, i always say to babies, if you are a military man, and we were able to put more against them , they have technology. it is not possible to lead simply to such conditional intelligence

bringing the matter to the point of seizing the territory, uh, eight bmds and four tanks, it was just a matter of spitting, remember the offensives on kyiv when they marched in whole columns. and now everything is much more modest. yes, there is equipment, but they protect it, and it is connected with the fact that everything that applied to this spot, it is destroyed very quickly on the front lines in the fortifications, there is no infantry equipment, they are afraid to let you down , mr. commanders, you mentioned that we have additional lines of defense. echeloned defense yes well, because we understand that a lot of relatives of our fighters are simply worried like this and we understand what possible scenarios are being discussed here, i can say

that in my practice i have never been in such a situation that and we often work from advanced positions so that, for me, it really was the last frontier, you know , and behind it there is a clear field, there is nothing, uh, our command, uh, you know, it is also developing all in ukraine ukrainian soldiers and the military is developing quite quickly. we are forced to do this if we want to, er, squeeze out a victory. that is probably the mistakes that were once made. maybe they were taken into service there in 14-15 years and now er, they are really engaged in this. you don't need to worry even if you know how it is in the war, if it's primitive there sometimes you have to retreat in order to go forward, the harrow is really furious in

other areas, spares are prepared and i would tell those who are worried what to worry about it's not worth it, but it's worth thinking about what can be done for in order to speed up the victory, mr. mykola, i would like you to clarify if it is about the needs of our servicemen and specific units, yes. well, this information is rather for different for different volunteer communities, which should now be given a certain organizational emphasis in order to help you in particular, well, here i know the answer is clear, because it is impossible to buy anything from that volunteer, they cannot buy anything from what has a very effective effect on the acceleration of victory, for example, there is cao m109 paladin, it is impossible

to buy, it is possible to buy abrams, eh, no way we can’t get it here, but it is possible to purchase those tools that increase the effectiveness of the weapons that we already have, if once in 14-15 years, everyone bought them, remember the night vision devices, the thermal imagers, the collimator works. because many people own such weapons, they were small arms these sights and ethnic sighting devices have increased the efficiency, now we have enough artillery to start the guns for all this, and in order to increase the efficiency of the use of all this equipment , it is necessary to find the enemy's control positions of fire, this is done with the help of drones, drones can be purchased on the civilian market. for example, we use more djs. i am a chinese manufacturer. there are many technical

problems that they once had . at the front, buy them drones, let them learn how to use them, reconnaissance and orientation , situational on the line of contact in the area, is very important, well, they will help significantly with this. i believe that the armed forces are equipped with socks, body armor, helmets, er, everything, and so a this is the kind of special equipment you know, innovative special equipment, of course, it is worth providing those who have it but do not have it. thank you, sir, commanders for your service and for participating in the live broadcast of the espresso tv channel. of the live marathon of yuriy vasetskyi, a horting coach, an eyewitness to the

tragedy in the dnipro, a person who saved his pet. what were they waiting for, they had to finish the conversation with the commander of the unit, who is now in the direction of bakhmut. so, coach yuri vasetsky was walking nearby. when a russian rocket hit a house in dnipro, he just heard a terrible sound and ran to the epicenter of the explosion. he knew that rostislav, whose man he was training, lived there. he got out to the third floor of the burning building and in addition to my pet, i saved two more people, not yuri. i may have made a mistake. it was very scary, it was terrifying at that time , precisely on saturday we have scheduled

sports and health activities with the students of our club, where we conduct training and after the self-health event, giving the children and parents, we decided to go for a walk with our project manager along the embankment so that did you understand this 18th house? in general, the residential area of ​​victory is a sleeping area, only bedrooms. there are no businesses there at all, only houses , kindergartens, schools and small shopping centers . m from the place where the fifth rocket hit, but after realizing that it was an approach and they should see how the building was burning, how the cars that were parked near this building were burning, that is, the decision was made instantly, well, this is me now , so i have the opportunity to tell, a week has already passed about this and then it was shocking, something like that. i don't

know what to call this state, uh, knowing that my co-worker and my pet live there, well, the decision was made to run there instantly and try to do something, at that time i still didn't know where i was running how i run because everything happened it was smoky, i repeat, there were a lot of private cars that were burning on the first floor of this building, there was a dispensary and also a shop was located in the council well, this is where it all started, mr. yuryu, do you know this so-called, i don’t know, banal display of heroism, that is, you are one of the heroes, man - a civilian who did something that a lot of people would try to avoid, you entered a burning house after the russian shelling , smoky without knowing at all how everything will

unfold in order to implement one of of the basic commandments, so save your neighbor. so you ran to the smoky stairs and began to advance on 35, in general, they smoke the stairs. -e fortunately , there was a visor left over the dispensary, he hangs it on it. it is on the first floor . in general, there is something on it on the second floor. the apartment was equipped with iron bars from factories and vandals, and this became an obstacle for evacuating the child and

having one. i could not pull out this grill, as if i did not try. unknown guys iron. we already pulled out these bars when we were three, evacuated a small child, now i already i know. yesterday we met. what is zakhar who is 6 years old? mother irina was evacuated. by the way, she is raising her son just like the yaroshenka family. i climbed up to the third floor, uh, got into the third floor. well, i didn’t understand who i would find there, or would i find rostislavich? rostyslav was lucky, very lucky that at that time he was already in his outerwear, and as far as is known now, he was already going to the

tutor when the explosion rang out - well, their building is a banal nine-story building that was built back in soviet times. that is, we performed with blocks and it was the block on the block that fell and made such a safety triangle for him from where and i already evacuated him evacuated what it looked like that is you took him in your arms took his hand well i took his hands so i did a superficial inspection as much as possible at that time to do because i understood that this house has gas equipment, i.e. kitchens there with natural gas supply, they are electrical systems. i understand that there could be an explosion, moving between the floors , cars burning from below, which gave off acrid smoke exactly on this part, because the wind was pulling a draft right into the yard and not in the direction of the dnipro embankment, that is, i led him to

the window, through which i climbed and held him by the top of his clothes and handed him to the guys downstairs, and they quietly evacuated him. well, what's next already caught me, mr. yury, i know that you are trying to organize a fundraiser to support the affected dnipro people, i will ask our editors to take out the account number so that our viewers can join the collection, please tell the story of this dnipro woman, iryna, whom we saved with her child zakhar from the second floor. that is, we did not know her at all, we met yesterday, er, during the conversation, it became clear to me that she is raising her son all by herself, that there is no help there, and if rostyslav is nadiya yaroshenko , she is ours and he, as a pupil of our sports club, joined and all sports

organizations, international organizations, because we have a very extensive network, our sports network , volunteers joined and collected enough money to support them right now, have something to live on, rent a house and everything else, ms. iryna, unfortunately , does not have such resources, and it is through you channels that i want to appeal to all charitable funds to all caring people so that they, if possible, make a repost, provide information and help this woman, because well, we really have modern times to raise one it is very difficult to raise a child alone. and considering that there is no token at all, there is nothing, all the savings were lost during the explosion of this rocket. well, there is a very, very sad financial situation, so if possible, all the funds that have the opportunity to connect is not to help the victims of this cursed attack. dear

tv viewers, the number of the card to help the victims of dnipro. you see, you see mr. yuri on your screen, returning to the story about yours. well, i don't know heroism - it's still not something that can describe your situation. you saved people, so you got out alive, father is crying i don't know what kind of psychological state you were in, and here it goes on and on and on i have a fierce hatred, well, in general , it happened that now for me i have already repeated myself once and i will say it again there is no such nation as the russians at all. for me, they are all scumbags, and their country is a country of filth, and i am more inclined to the fact that our armed forces need to act

like an eye for an eye, an eye for an eye, only if there is an influx according to our structure for our civilian ladies, for our children, there needs to be an answer, i don't know what kind of radicalism, but i see for myself that this is not some kind of war, according to the rules of war, it's not some kind of operation, this is exclusively genocide, genocide of the ukrainian nation, by means of terror. and all a with such it is impossible for the country not to agree not to conduct any negotiations nothing she must disappear thank you mr. yuriy for what you have done thank you for strengthening our faith in humanity thank you for being yuriy vasetsky, a horting coach, an eyewitness to the tragedy in the dnipro, who saved several people, he broke into this

house destroyed by a russian missile and was simply saving people, for which we thank him, well, now our information and analytical relay will be picked up by our wonderful group of novices , it is still possible, there is important news. so today the largest medical evacuation of patients from kherson to lviv oblast took place, all the patients , the elderly who were in the medical facilities of kherson and its surroundings, the head of the lviv military administration, maksym kozytskyi, informed about this, i quote, all the patients, the elderly people who were in the medical facilities of kherson and its surroundings, were brought to the lviv region by a special train now the floor goes to ania melnyk, who will present a lot of extremely different and important news to ania. i congratulate you on the floor. thank you antina for a few moments together with the team of