that is, we cannot currently rehabilitate or treat something because it has not yet completed such a complete reaction . um, or to work with very clear clinical pictures, or simply to provide such psychosocial support, such support . this can be emphasized, and even criminalization there always begins after the fact, when something happened, then it happened . for example, like the american soldiers who

were in afghanistan and vietnam, and the greater number of suicides among them did not occur during the period when they once were. yes so when when they were already in the well-being of the american country. that is, you want to say that they lacked something to me when the consequences of this trauma they no longer tolerated certain circumstances that are usually normal are perceived as the norm, and there is experience of helping such people, of course, it is doubtful, but our state is ready to help. in this way, to ask a question. well, i think that again, if we recall exactly how the ganges syndrome arose, it is primarily social support from the state or something about it mines of veterans so on the side specifically and precisely er organizations that is, it must be some kind of movement, an ideological movement that deals with support even from well, from the side of the state, no, i don’t know , it could be pension support, some

a package of social guarantees, sanatorium-resort treatment, what else is important, is it possible some kind of professional training or retraining in order to integrate into a peaceful life? there will be a discount upon admission, literally the amount for studying at a university. for example, many people go, let's say so here, you know, we need to change the paradigm a little in our country. that's why i'm afraid that in our country , public ptsd rehabilitation is very often the military, because it is difficult, they are immediately referred to psychiatry, and that is why we have e-e, maybe you will agree with me when and with us, on the first plan, if such a complex case is, then to psychiatrists, and psychiatrists he always

strives for the middle of his life pathologization of the process. that is, it is inevitable, and that is why the state will also win by changing the psychiatric paradigm to a rehabilitation one, a social psychological one with elements of clinical psychology, so to speak, clinical rehabilitation or something. this is actually what worries me about the ability, because the ability is there. but the way in which the state can implement it is sometimes scary, look very well, the most effective measure is socialization, successful socialization of the individual as a full-fledged and useful member of this society, what does it mean that a person who left out of 100, from that state, she entered society and it is necessary to communicate , yes, there is a job, there is an environment to admire, there is a hobby

, there is a place to spend time, a person went to his favorite job, then went to the gym, did something , went to the cinema, got his education hung up, that is, if well, if this is implemented, there will be no problems at all , you know, now you were telling me, it occurred to me that in our society there is, and has been for a long time, another problem . integrated in society for 60 years and all honorable retirement is if yes that's why they fight for this place er there was a culture shock sorry for talking about myself but i lived in china for four years worked there and when i saw the first in the center of beijing fashionable district of fashionable restaurant glass shop window i see how my granddaughter and my grandmother are sitting, crying, eating something, and how they

are playing football in the parks, does it mean that there is football? age, this is an example. i suddenly realized that after the war we need to integrate many people, including pensioners and veterans of society, to give meaning to their existence . to integrate each other is a very, very valid idea, because even before the war, long before the war, i liked the idea that, well, what is it? we are from donetsk, you hear donbas. we are from lviv. we had you in our ass. i apologize. we are here . that is, we are all ukrainians, this is the first thing, and if we want to live in one country, we need to integrate one with the other and uh, and not separate, it is possible, gentlemen. can i ask? actually, there is a lot of time left. i am very interested, really. can i ask you? and are there any positive consequences of the war, well, apart from those that we have already hinted a little at them that we

can, well, i don't know, at least use it as a resource, like baggage that will be with us for the rest of our lives and use it for the development of some personal progress, are there such things that war gives us? i understand that war is not bad, definitely, but even you know, there are still some bright things for me, what do you think that this could be my answer, you know, it is more ethno-psychological, social and political than it can be, there is a concrete psychological main issue that is being solved and in fact it can already be it has been decided in ukrainian society who is your own and who is a foreigner, since all the questions that were before this were related, how do you know if you will be there before? yes, yes, here and there. and who are you, what kind of ukrainian are you, and not what kind of ukrainian , and now you give the second solved the problem solved the problem is it already solved positively my favorite is the question of the ukrainian

communists because we know the biggest disaster as an already independent state all these 30 years we always know it from a-a people who are trying to renounce the communist of the past and people who are trying to return or popularize this past, that is, the communists of the west and east of the south, there is the center of the road accident , that is, and all the questions are actually in that post-colonial consciousness when some communists who simply stopped being communists because the soviet union was shut down and they stopped being communists, and others suffer because of this, and that is why the eternal original communist-nationalist and other ideologues have always led to the fact that the question arises: who is theirs, who is foreign, who is greater, who is smaller, who is better, who is worse

i.e. now, when they win , a new formation of ukrainians will win. what is the main thing, that is, not those who forever atone for the fact that they voted for communists for 70 years or were communists themselves? or those who are nostalgic? but actually a new formation of ukrainians who choose ukraine, defend ukraine and create yes, and here they are. it is these people who will then offer us a new discourse of ukraine and it will be called, as far as i'm concerned, an ethnic triumph . nostalgic, but all communists, that's what it's all about. that's why, in my opinion, this question is now being solved by a new generation and

a new victory, and even more. the last thing i'll say is that the main thing is that thanks to modern achievements and victories, we ourselves can start to believe even more in past victories we were very often skeptical of them, and this will be a modern victory and a victory for the heroism of the past - this will be a way to solve many questions that we as psychologists will call historical trauma or something else. that is, we will choose from the communists are the main culprits of all this. i am also doda, and any war, war in general, especially this applies to the society that is being attacked, that is, the position of the victim, first of all, it unites society around some center or, as i really like, how to proceed said ethnososo ethnic , that is, there is ethnic unity

, secondly, this uh, traumatic conditions by themselves act as a catharsis, that is, cleansing, cleansing, rethinking, a change in worldview, and the third most important thing is that it increases humanism humanistic views, that is, it emphasizes people's views, people's worldviews on uh-humanity, that is, people begin to treat each other more humanely, like homo sapist from dachomasapiens, this is a fact, and well, as for our current situation, i believe that uh, i i'm waiting i'm not what i'm hoping for i'm sure it will be like that , by the way, i recently traveled to europe and our european colleagues also expressed this opinion, this is a unique chance to integrate into europe and become a european country, this is an objective fact, discard this soviet and decommunization is a fact for

today, it must happen by itself. that is, by default, it is already there . look who is burning immigrants in the west, mostly. it was also communists. well, that is, youth and youth are not in conflict. i have not seen any such conflict. at least in those social networks, that is, some old lady who voted for communists in lutsk or lviv all her life and was herself a member of the company, now she meets kharkiv residents and tries to tell ukrainians from kharkiv about putin, although she was a communist all her life until the 90s. that is, this is the generation that we should automatically forgive but ask them not to say anything. well, if possible, if you don’t want to go. the

fact is that i will add the aggressor to this topic as one of the technologies of attracting and returning people who remained in the territories currently not under our control in the temporarily occupied territories what are they doing, they bring their monuments somewhere yesterday, i put them up in my opinion, not in nikopol, they bring a ready-made monument to put it in the square in skadovsk, they also brought it, put up a monument, someone, here's your idol, this is our idol , that's the same connection with that communist past. whatever it was, it does not apply to the lives of our parents. it is not the idea of ​​communism. decommunization should happen by itself. they know that this is our situation. well, they also have technologists and psychologists working there, so as not to break this thread. of decommunization, they bring these statues , put them in the middle and worship, please , this is our idol and the calculation is exactly what it

is about, but this is already hope for the usual . i regret only one thing that the time of our recording is coming to an end, and i would like to talk more, but i think that you and i will meet with both of them and talk for sure , because the topic and the field that you represent it is eternal and always interesting and certain. well, i am not a problem for problems, but it raises certain questions. i will remind you that today our guests were in italy lunyov, a clinical professor of psychology, a member of the ukrainian academy of sciences, a research fellow of the kostyuk institute of psychology, the national academy of pedagogical sciences of ukraine, and mr. yuriy irhin is a forensic psychologist with many years of experience, you said all my life, i’m not trying to add them to you, i’m just conveying how nice it was to work and talk with you, and

yuriy, i really hope that such this time will come, at least a few decades after we win. as your dear father, the kingdom of heaven, probably said that after the war, there will be such a small, but uh, mercy, do you remember in viber, just what? well, let's hope that ukraine is waiting for it with the best with best wishes to all of you at the beginning of the new year, we say goodbye to you until the next meetings at the marathon, the only news continues. i congratulate you. my name is ruslan smyschuk, most of the time i work on the eastern front, that

's how it is now. and today we will talk about a safety zone in your home, these tips that can save your life during the arrival of shelling or the fall of missile fragments are the most important. in my opinion, to realize the following , all further rules work only to ensure their accidental arrival or a single hit or fall of a fragment of missiles shot down by anti-aircraft missiles. if your settlement is under constant artillery fire, the only reasonable advice can be this, evacuate, this is what the streets of the city look like , where russian artillery is constantly pounding, life here is a game of death lottery every week sometimes every day those who could not or did not want to leave die on the streets of such cities, sometimes they hide

in the same streets, so once again evacuate if possible , unfortunately, none of your actions can 100% protect against possible death during shelling, you just have to realize this, but it is a few things and rules that can significantly increase your chances of survival in the event of an attack or shelling. for example, like here where a russian missile hit the conventional rear area , damaged houses, unfortunately, there are injured, but fortunately there are no casualties. adhere to certain safety rules, collectable, guarded, if it didn’t sound strange, but

often this is one of the safest places in the apartment, because it is in these rooms that the rule of two and sometimes three walls works, that is, between you and the ammunition, two walls even after breaking through the first fragments of the projectile and the first wall and the blast wave breaks friend and thus save you. this is what people who managed to survive the shelling say about it. the two-wall rule works. we slept in the corridor and it works. most of the shower rooms in ukraine are covered with such ceramic tiles . remember in the event of a powerful impact, this tile can fly out and injure a person if there are tiles in these rooms, as well as a hot water boiler or a gas boiler - this is not the best shelter another safe zone - these are external and internal corridors if there are two or three walls, just like here, but it is better to

remove all unnecessary things from them in advance, you may have to run out of the room very quickly, and it will be bad if they get confused under your feet, it is better to equip such areas in advance, place chairs or mattresses, an emergency suitcase, a first aid kit, a lantern or an additional source of light to work out the rescue route so that in complete darkness you can jump to the safe zone and then quickly gather and leave the premises during the air of their alarms stay in these shelters or nearby oh hello hello this is my colleague tetyana ignatchenko at the front she works from 14- th year as a soldier. and in recent years, as an official of the regional military administration, i have endured such a thing that it is better to be funny than dead, that is, the guy fell down and put his head in his hands, this is also by the way thing that well, by the way, i won't say that she

saved, maybe she helped, that 's for sure. this is how tetyana's apartment in kramatorsk looks now. russian rockets are constantly hitting the city. they immediately covered all the windows with sandbags . in principle, it will somehow keep the lamps there at least that's how the windows of people in all my rooms look like, it's also worth taping the windows in case of an explosion, this will stop the transformation of glass fragments into shrapnel, do it if you haven't done it yet now the apartment is more like one of these, do you know a small fortification, or is there a warehouse for the management of information activities of the regional administration, but as an experienced person who has seen with her own eyes and through reports tens of hundreds of cases of civilian deaths in the combat zone, tetiana is convinced that the best

option is to protect herself from the arrival or avoid shelling to evacuate them let's sum up find arrange a safe zone in the room according to the rule of two or three walls in a safe window during alarms stay in the safe zone or as close as possible to learn it, arrange evacuation routes from the premises, it is best to have two or more of them, realize that your life is more valuable than any property, be ready to evacuate if guns start firing at your settlement, this is the most dangerous option of shelling . artillery shelling is the only thing guaranteed that can protect your life, this evacuation to safer regions , nothing else guarantees protection against the death of the chikalik during the arrival and explosion

of the next projectile, find out about evacuation from local administrations and emergency services. they work on the front line and are often under fire. be alive and well. on december 1, 1918, in a train car, the secretaries of the councils of the two ukrainian states did not sign the accession treaty before. and already in a month and a half, the zluk act of 1990 year, the ukrainian people united by a living chain, today the enemy is trying to divide and destroy ukraine, but we united and became stronger, our drive to victory is unstoppable happy cathedral day the war in ukraine does not look at all like in the movies , it is a dirty, cold and terrible war, it smells

of sweat and blood, the war leaves its mark on everyone who has been there in military uniform, the end of the eyes, remember what price our heroes pay every day. we thank them, we help them and we must we will surely win. thanks to them, russian propaganda is still being manipulated by us, how not to let ourselves be deceived, beware of all-out conflicts, for example , due to the lack of electricity or the language issue, excessive emotions, a sign of enemy manipulation, provokes quarrels between ukrainians so that to sow aggression and despair, this is how putinism dreams

of destroying ukraine from the inside. observe information hygiene, do not draw into your consciousness everything that catches your eye, do not believe enemy rumors, spread the truth. keep calm and ukraine. war times today the story of olga sumska and vitaly borysyuk i congratulate you i am glad to see you here in kyiv so much we are at the moment every day new challenges now kyiv lives in a way between constant anxieties air between

the threat of shelling between the shelling itself between the attacks of enemy drones and the addition of electricity shutdowns, the electricity in kyiv at the moment, when we are talking to you, is being turned off for four or five hours and several times a day in some areas. as you know , just like everyone else when you read the news in mykolaiv, nikopol, and zaporizhzhia. this is my hometown, i grew up there, compared to these cities, the east of ukraine is simply terrible. what is happening there right now. and you think you can endure all this there, you have to stay in line. relax and low but we always have a full bath of water as a technical reserve. that's how

from the very beginning of the war we periodically drain it to update, then various life hacks appeared and well, we don't have gas in the house so much electricity 20 years ago i once bought for climbers, such a small tile for the highlands with a gas cylinder, that is, when we went to travel with a child who was three months old, i took it with me and rolled it up on the way , quickly prepared food for myself and the child, and now it’s useful. i bought another 10 balloons, uh, and because they are so because they are designed for, that is, they are stored well and this is such a life hack life hack then well, it is clear that the candles are the case, but i recently completely

accidentally watched a video where a person made such flashlights fireflies and i also made such from what two fingertip batteries not only are they not very small, but there is no average coin, you need to buy two batteries and one of the 3v leds. to burn for a year, that is, i soldered and scattered if there is no light such a firefly around the house and you go to yourself well, how can you get to give a master class on these life hacks. took part in the great charity project, ah, i saw a very boring picture of you in social networks where you are singing the national anthem on stage, and it seems that

you have tears in your eyes, and those who are standing next to you, the artists, also have tears, tell me, we all became perceive even the symbols of the country differently during this time, am i wrong or not, that even the anthem we sing now is different, of course, how can it be different. as you say, yes, because this is the perception of the homeland today, according to germany, which was burned and suffered a lot, and this is our soul, our soul sings. the soul of every ukrainian , wherever he is i have not been to different parts of the world, but when you come there, when you go on stage and sing the national anthem with them, they all stand up. they stand up and cry and sing with us because they are ukrainians, what kind of people abroad come to such

events are our people these are our ukrainians are they local locals by the way there were about 30 percent in the hall it was nice er-er the city of palma de mallorca a-a such is our um wonderful mission a-a to raise money for orphanages and now there is an urgent need, let's say, to collect a certain estimate for the purchase of electricity generators for the heating of children's orphanages located in western ukraine, and we were just in spain collecting this money. it was for these houses in western ukraine and not far from the city of yaremche we managed to collect more than €50,000 gathered and people donatyat people came responded and the city bowed to them of course they visited abroad where it is safe where it

is calm there where there are no air raids every day there is no shelling there is no such pain and horror all around you did not have any thoughts to spend some time abroad and whether did you have an idea in italy to somehow provide for your girls, to protect them from this, what is happening? well, first of all, the month of the war, olya with anichka, with our daughter, who is studying . of course, all these nearby arrivals, well, now, in general, one thought, if i wake up, what happened to the arrivals? well, you look at the monitor, the word

arrive is straight as a needle to the heart. b to the western committee and you don't want us to be together, well, after all, women, and then when it got hot when already well, the flights were very close and the house shook like that anya was already nervous and just the proposal from olina's classmate who once studied theater now she lives in italy, and the decision was made to go abroad after all, and olya was abroad for a month and a half with her, and it was somehow easier for me here because, well, my husband somehow thinks about himself. well, we are safer. i already have these explosions, flights. i honestly say that i did not go because the reservoir. well, my neighbor is also my friend, and we have so many apartment buildings left in our house, but there were about 10 men left and we held the defense