this is unacceptable for the settlement and for china, but until putin crossed this threshold, i think that xi jinping has already calculated that the continuation of the war is beneficial to china, because the usa and europe are now occupied with ukraine. what affects their economies, but as we saw in the example of the policy of zero covid, all those can turn its course 180° when something dramatic happens, for example nationwide protests against him and against his zero-code policy, so the more ukraine succeeds on the battlefield and the stronger the unity remains of the transatlantic community and its allies in australia and japan, it is all the more likely that china will begin to withdraw its support for russia and express a desire to switch to the side of those who will win due to the restructuring of geopolitical power, and russia can no longer be considered a great power. china will want to take advantage of the new

economic opportunities that will appear as a result, everything depends on the victory of ukraine on the battlefield, this is the direction in which events are moving now, well, mr. ambassadors, if we are talking about china, we can not miss one more extremely we are talking about an important player, or, well, we are talking about president erdoğan, president erdoğan is trying to maintain the so-called constructiveness in communication with the kremlin, and he is perhaps not the only one who succeeds in this. what will be the real non-declarative policy of turkey regarding the russian-ukrainian war? we in nato talk about turkey as a bridge between east and west, and this is exactly the role of turkey in relation to russia and ukraine, the ability to be a bridge between east and west is one of the factors that makes turkey such geostrategically important for the transatlantic community, cardigan, his

policy is much more transactional and not collective from the point of view of security. his approach to nato is that they support nato and therefore support nato friends, receiving something in return in a transactional way. that is, it resembles the foreign policy of donald trump, although in contrast to trump erdogan really appreciates nato and appreciates its strategic importance for turkey quality strategic importance of turkey for nato for you and for those of us who were brought up in nato during the cold war our opinion has always been based around the idea of ​​one for all and all for one ah we are a community of values ​​we defend democratic and economic freedoms and we must be on the side of what is morally right agrees with this and yet emphasizes his difficult

neighborly situation they say look on our borders, here is a series of iraq, the south caucasus , and across the black sea, russia and ukraine, so our approach is somewhat different. a valuable mediator, because we are against war, this position is very similar to the german one, and as we said earlier, there was a lot of pressure on germany to change its course and fully support ukraine, however, in the case of turkey, we heard how president zelensky himself welcomed the mediation of president erdogan, in particular when concluding the grain of the agreement when putin was also grateful. i think that the moment will come, although not now, when russia will finally be ready for real negotiations and all of nato will welcome the ability of erdogan or any

other turkish leader at that moment to be mediator and therefore lead to opening a dialogue both with ukraine and with russia, i think that it is also very good for the alliance that the nato member countries play such an important role, and because of this, putin's viche is going through the roof, so putin is trying to drive a wedge between turkey and the rest of nato and bring it closer to russia, but he fails because turkey provided ukraine with critical military aid throughout the war in the form of drones . the mayor also rhetorically supported ukraine and consistently condemned russia's invasion of ukraine condemned the violation of the territorial integrity of ukraine condemns the occupation and annexation of crimea and calls on ukraine to become a member of nato children not to mention the closure of the

turkish straits for russian warships that are not based in the black sea of ​​course it would be better if turkey under the leadership of murdogan fully supported all sanctions against russia but i must say that they appreciate the net benefit of supporting turkey, which is obvious. turkey is definitely in the camp of ukraine, but i also see value in maintaining a line of communication with russia, if it hurts me it was not recognized. as far as i understand , the system of rationality that works in the west does not work, to put it mildly, regarding assessments of what is going on in putin's head. i am not a psychiatrist, i cannot diagnose his next steps , but we can see that he is trying to adhere to his old, maybe even stalinist line but this is a question of how far and how long he will actually go

in this direction. i am also not a psychiatrist, i think that putin's goals regarding this terrible invasion and aggressive war have changed now his main the goal is probably to survive the physical and political are two sides of the same coin and all this is thanks to the amazing courage and efficiency of the ukrainian military and the national determination of the entire population of ukraine. putin received terrible advice from his special services at the beginning of the war. he thought that he would be able to achieve a quick victory by capturing kyiv and decapitating the government, instead he suffered failed miserably and now he's stuck in this war of attrition that he can't win and if he can't win it, it's the end of him many analysts in washington have begun to say and to write that they consider the possibility that the entire russian federation will collapse will

happen, but the debate in washington has changed radically before. they said something like oh, we will not provoke putin to escalate this war and he can use nuclear weapons and then even attack the territory of nato and now russia will collapse as a result of this unsuccessful war, therefore, i think that putin's goal in this war is to survive. for this, he hopes that if enough russian soldiers are thrown into battle and even if they die tens and hundreds of thousands, it will not matter because in the end many ukrainians will die, the economy will suffer, the civilian population will not be able to tolerate it anymore and ukraine will finally capitulate. putin believes that he will find a way to declare victory, but this will not happen thanks to the military victory of ukraine

and the solidarity of its friends and allies we will see that putin will have to adjust his goals and i'm guessing that eventually he will say something like ok we really won we showed the west that we are not going to just stand by and let them take from us in ukraine, we destroyed the nazis, no matter who putin considered them to be in ukraine, we wiped out the west of the nose and held some territory, no matter how small a piece of ukraine he talked about, passing it off as a victory, and then he will go further if he survives and think about how to return to ukraine and in another way in the future, but he will not succeed because russia will be incredibly weak at the end of its fiasco in this war. and the united states and in particular the headquarters of nato understand what is happening in reality on the territory of russia, in particular it is about the formation of their military groups and what

is happening in the kremlin plus or minus they have accurate information i do not have access to secret information that i had before but judging by the recordings of conversations of russian soldiers on the battlefield when they call their families or talk to their comrades i believe that nato headquarters and washington have a deep understanding of the terrible morale of the russian military, that even wagnerites complain that they are being used as cannon fodder if they take a step back then they get a bullet in the back. as in stalin's time, everyone knows this, we constantly hear about it in the media , and based on my previous experience working in the government, there is no doubt that the usa and its nato allies know much more about what is happening in the russian army, what is happening inside the kremlin is

much more difficult to understand because it is not easy to intercept relevant messages, it is not easy to penetrate the inner circles at the highest levels of any government, and even more so the russian one, through espionage through agents who can visit and transmit information but it is certainly easy to understand the pressure putin is currently under, i myself hear from my own environment that now even at the level of ministers in russia, not to mention the oligarchs, there is deep indignation at putin, putin, you have destroyed our lives. we will never be able to live like this, we lived before, you are destroying the reputation of russia, i constantly hear about this state of affairs from various people, even from heads of state, so i think that there is a deep awareness of how serious the problem is, in which putin found himself

. that is why i took such a hard position in this interview, as i already said in response to your previous question, i think that putin's goals have changed and now he just wants to survive. unfortunately, i have to end our conversation with another one. that matthew bryza worked for them on the air of the espresso tv channel, ex-adviser of the secretary of state of the united states, former director of european and eurasian affairs at the us national security council thank you very much, we will continue our analysis, a political scientist who andriy piontkovskyi is in washington. glory to ukraine. andriy andriyovich, i congratulate you on the espresso tv channel. glory to the heroes. good evening. well, we see that the final synchronization of

the civilized world, which is going to give extremely specific answers to russian aggression against ukraine, in particular, it is about the supply of weapons, has taken place. in particular, it is about the huge financial forum in davos, so how do you see the current unfolding of situations, people are difficult, the pancreatic economic forum there pashchenko of the economy, they talk only about ukraine, only the victory of ukraine, this is very new characteristics. we have been watching this struggle of two concepts in the west for a whole year. the task will not release the fires , it is clear to everyone that the so-called defeat in practice is by the pustilskiy hitler's putin's company, the genocide of the ukrainian people, the destruction of its cities, civil

кто и вот наконец мой слышит i'm just from the main cars chancellor scholz peace can only be achieved by defeating russia the prime minister of finland from the sledge maria we don't know when the war will end we know what's located pobedy ukraine of the second election we simply don't have a general secretary should provide the maximum help not in ukraine offensive harvesters and so on and so on and so on, this is the consensus police eh zapody you know in moscow and have drained attention to the rhetoric of the last days of moscow’s our figure eh they already practically recognize this situation , the account of a nuclear state is frightening, it cannot play, well, we will take it all with us. the whole world, uh, i choose everything in the cemetery and so on. it means

that they heard the signal and did not understand that the impel is standing in the near future. well, i am still наставил еще psyc nuclear threats are absolutely empty blackmail if kissinger announced that after the victory, ukraine has every chance and there is a need for its accession to nato, well, this means that the situation has really changed radically, there is already a clear geopolitical determination, the follower is already on the shocket conception, something in the style of peace negotiations, introductions and so on. he remained a realist, then realists are ready to give way to strong totalitarians in some ways. as a realist, he understood, quote yours. back in july, he said, "that is the major change of the 22nd geopolitical year" that on the map of europe

there is a new magical in russian precisely five new great powers or giving it one of the most powerful and effective armies in europe, this completely changes the situation, including the team, now the questions are wrong, not that ukraine should be accepted into nato after the victory, because it is a guarantee of the security of ukraine, ukraine must be accepted into nato, and it is understood as a serious violation of the guarantee of the security of the west, because at the moment it will be threatened . от еготого грозы the last day together with the only strong and effective european army of the ukrainian army and all this was understood in the west and this turn is not random, they are all one of the second in the same place they kept repeating the same thesis that

ukraine solves the task of our security, as he accidentally said that yes, we will see it with money, but ukrainians pay with blood, and if they don’t stop, we will have to pay someone , this is the west, this is the sentence of the putin regime in favor of your version testifies to an unprecedented meeting of the general , the commander of the army, and his american visa, he is the chief of the joint american staff, milli generala's brand. what do you think could have been discussed? well, we understand synchronization of reinforcement and certain guarantees, but your vision is from more, so the holy one is nothing, these two generals discussed a specific plan, a specific offensive operation , this is what day once narrowly spoke more places back in the magazine interview, remember i am standing eight hundred kilometers from melitopol, i am ready

to go this way liberator the city will hack the russian baron system by itself, turning the rupirovka into the crimea and the kherson region . er, today's presentation is a set of requirements of 300 tanks, 700 revolutions, and many 600 hz. i think that the two generals have already discussed the specific course of the operation. gerasimov's general staff and, accordingly, an attempt to somehow rebuild its aggressive offensive operation against ukraine, the possibilities that

russia will pelt with corpses in a mob of others as military others have nothing left well, except for nuclear blackmail, it is just the usual background. well, the second thing is that many people consider that the appointment for gerasimo will see you here, the determination of moscow to switch to the clutch, the meaning of gerasimo corresponds to the friend, the escalating struggle within the military-political command between the ministry of defense and the group of handsome professional criminals and him wait for wagner to be beautiful , i'm leading, i'm not against ukraine, but during the ministry of defense of russia. to the audience where prigozhin was awarded the general-heroeschyny called and things are not the general staff but he is going further this if

the statements he already i will rush to the administration of the president said that there pavel priidetely who are thinking about how how to lose the war he is coming to power in russia that is why that is why there in addition, moscow is developing more politically . promised and i do not wish that i am not clear that in a mini-spell i am such a mini-military coup because i am going to gerasimov rather than waiting for the participation of general pavlov, whom putin shot for the position on the front of this participation of putin, he also fired beautiful balls, the saint attacked no more in further putin, because putin well, how should schiller's love be explained so that he is to

blame? the generals forced putin to return gerasim to his post. well, after 2 days, a handsome man fell to him and partially overplayed this situation. the task of the situation is to change the entire political non-military elite, and after losing , the loser of the russian war will take over from you. as the only greek warrior who tried to win all of this, of course , the russian armed forces are weakening and approaching defeat. well, on the other hand, we understand how great the authority is the same that he and gerasimova, who are currently working in a tie, but until today, they could not do anything with the

opportunities at the general staff and the ministry of defense of the russian federation. i think it is an order of magnitude larger. why did they wait and not commit this or that act against the same prigozhyn? here they are, and they asked to do it. the conflict between professional soldiers and fighters loyal to me personally, it was a joke, they were the head of the frame, the leader, that we went out near the german beauties. the need to remove his ego, a hyper came to him on a common to him, we jerked off a pistol with one cartridge and rom would have been needed in a cell , they committed suicide with screams hey

hitler well, this was hitler, our hitler turned out to be much more drooling about our rom turned out to be much more determined that сейчас очень интересное well, you are a political drama, germany , the night of the 34th year of long fires, it is repeated in russia only, as it seems to me, with the opposite outcome, so that long knives are used not by philia and exver, but by long knives, and precisely by privozhentseva. militants are very similar to this, well, in the end , it doesn't matter to us who wins, what matters is that they destroyed each other and brought the end of military resistance to russia and the so-called leningrad speech, he was extremely vague, there were some omissions, he promised that he would i know, we are about to start a full-fledged armageddon, but everyone here is unusually like that. he had a speech. why does he constantly expel the

same medvedev, nothing needs to be signed, enough silent silent acceptance of tacit consent well, what about evaluating medvedev's clutch? and no, it's absolutely not interesting, nobody. but you, the priest, rightly emphasized how you put her putin, uh , in st. petersburg, but he looks like me. he was in shock after the first major defeat of the russian army with approaching good will when they were thrown out of kiev, chernihiv, and i confirmed that the first thing that they could not otherwise survive last week he suffered for the first time in his 23 years of stay in the guests of the two heavier apparatuses were defeated first at night 60 on january 11 when

they were weighed down by gerasim’s shoi-guing and demanded the immediate dismissal of the comparative ones to return to their position in the federation, they made amends, and the second when three days later prigozhin came to him with the above-mentioned demands and demanded that the crimean program be terminated if flights from the side you have a geeky fighter company and they will release an official statement of both feats, uh, after this two things , remember, he is no longer the same person. in the multi-voiced world, we already see, er, russian political military elites, this criminal society has not plowed yet, and here the plow has been dropped twice in one week, for the sake of beauty, only to obnaglevat such an emphasis and ego, as i said, our conversations have already begun. he unfolded already the attack is not only not in ay purely military leadership on the morgensteben of

arrivals in the presidential administration. the appointment would be absolutely unnecessary, they would not know how to react to it, and in general, it continues all the time on patriotic sites, there is quite a positive coverage of beautiful children, in this environment of crazy patriots, he recruits cars and this cynical expatriates me and i once again already мне мне есть i see his plan. he understands the version of the loser, but he planned it in advance. he himself planned the video of hitler's future . russia's losers are the losers of russia. what will the loser russians tell us ? traitors from the general staff from

the presidential administration, this is what he will be playing for many more years in russia, so he understands that yes , er, ukraine will return its territory, it will return to the border er, the west will ensure the security of ukraine with its own security by accepting ukraine into nato and the baron's harsh system but what is going to happen in russia , no one will go there anymore, let themselves go, eh, frogs and vipers eat whatever they want. what, yes , no, not in ukraine. maybe let your criminals indulge their will, all the more so that huge trillion assets of the property of all former putin are being released. gerasimov can play a specific role in this whole matter. it is possible that gerasimov was simply dismissed from a certain

position and given a specific task. the war against ukraine. we give you some deadline in order to show this or that bloody result 2-3 months if you do not succeed, well, accordingly , then so to speak you are not retired the rekosovsky camp was in a dinner position and received him there one of the key prophet gerasim has already shown himself as a military leader as a driver we all this crazy plan eh first days of the war well, putin is also responsible for the very idea of ​​war for the divinely good hatred in ukraine but the planks are this an idiot with tank columns , my soul’s wedding, and gerasimo, by the way, graduated from the academy of the general staff, it was the tank department, well, yes, it’s a uh, a kramatny crane.

demonstrated, and you repeat once again , gerasim was not put in order to run in ukraine. gerasim already gave shoigu mud, this is more. it was a mini military coup. the history of hitler's fascism, who won in a good year, i am the exmer and became the chuer himself. this is the main intrigue, the intrigue in russia, all the more well you understand that after arguments and communication, well, the fate of the war is already true absolutely well, i agree with you, and a very characteristic indicator of what is happening in the kremlin is not some kind of leak of information, because there is no way to check it, there is an absolutely specific official

answer of piskov to the trolling of our president zelensky, who said, and maybe putin is already like that so to speak, it is not real. or , so to speak, putin is no longer there, and literally in a couple of hours, a hysterical statement came from the kremlin press secretary, they reacted, you know, to such things according to no official reaction protocol it would not be enough to follow the plane, just zelensky said this phrase that will become a celebrity patrol. i think that the military political leadership of ukraine follows putin . indeed, there is no putin after

the night of january 10 on january 11. handsome, this pitiful smokchek posle etogo there, or his doubles walked around the cemetery, i don’t miss him, i don’t miss him, and you don’t have anything, directly in the physical sense, but in the political sense, zelensky is absolutely right and he spoke with the knowledge of the matter after these two apparatuses put to putin, there is no president putin in the kremlin. unfortunately, i have to end our conversation with the next one. i am grateful to andrii andriyovich for this analysis on the espressova tv channel. in washington meetings, the time of our program has run out, stay tuned to espresso tv channels my colleagues work for you non-stop, take care of yourself and your loved ones see you on the air