it was a super falsification of the election because people didn't believe that lukashenko won 80% and the collebla was put forward by stefanovska. well, who is such a tykhanovskaya person? who is an absolutely unknown housewife? yana doesn't own the terminology. what is the concept of the police ? what kind of political program? voted for the alternative, just like that, the alternative. you, that’s not the figure behind that, that’s not the leader. yes, who has ideas, ideology, what will come to belarus, that’s why it’s elementary, well, i’ll tell you that of course here is the beginning of this intrigue, it developed nicely on the part of the russian fsb, the truth. well, then who started it, and then it started that they did not hit the level of the people, the people consolidated as a nation

. above that with the level that the russians were waiting for , because everything was already ready, probably the symbolism is the case of this devastation, she made up all of it, they wore white ribbons as if on swamps. bilestyak and that's when a million went to belarusians ahead of me , people found it as usual and it was takaya, you know, you know , it’s all over europe, oops, oops, and putin had to make a decision, which he made, he was scared, i didn’t take risks , or so they already shouted about the russian party as putin would have kept him as a national hero. well, he didn't , because he also understood that everything that you are under the national flag, the people will see lukashenko, well, this will also be an example for russia, and khabarov was already beaten there. damn, all kinds of problems and just like an ordinary dictator

strusov brought the responsibilities, but there were already na na na live belarussians stood in the case of what and he held lukashenko, that's what the situation was and now you see that what happened further and further . eh, kinebish officials, eh, i didn’t set certain conditions, i even had to accept his language, it’s not by accident, but i’m watching this video after how it would have been written well, i don't say that. well, yes i take into account that i was recruited there, this tsapka is magical on the same day and 11 were taken to lithuania. they also gave security right away. everything was

created . this is not done spontaneously. that this is the policy pursued by moscow and berlin, and in the 20th year, in the year 1900, paris, berlin-moscow was created, and belarus was in fact already untied, and they say that there is no doubt especially in the 20th year, when the occupation began in 2020, not in 1900 and oh , i'm sorry. and here it is, when it means that the whole group was outside the border, and it was supported by germany. politics in the same way

as what bismarck once said, he once said that in europe only twelve exist, this is germany and the russians, the rest, it does not matter. well, this is rough, it seems, according to soldafosk , it was said, but this policy remained it will ring softly of gas metering, the policy of decarbonization, how to close all secondary power plants, how to open, germany is the complete owner of energy and the whole of europe , it would receive gas from putin and superficial members, here are these two, these are the regime, they are the owner of the entire energy structure of europe. the so-called supporter is financed by this group, first of all, because it is hired, it is necessary, speaking suprax, the lukashenka regime

says that this is a dictator, that he is there, that's all that's right. well, you have to adjust. when it ends, when it ends, it's not the military days . you have to go there on the shoulders of the national liberation forces. you can't go there. the politics with which america began, for which bismarck actually began, with which kohl carried out and everything , that's what all the intrigue and politics with which we are now watching and notice, on the 17th, moscow took troops to belarus, colossal troops from the far east were imported in fact, your occupation of the belarusians was full of silence, complete silence, not in berlin , not in paris, not in brussels. what is this strategic cry for nothing when a foreign army entered

here, right there, the border with poland, with lithuania, from latvia, from ukraine - this is at the junction of the junction, the troops are standing here the beginning of the war is elementary things, it is proven by history that you are silent and that i speak out, and all their agents are there, hilarious, all of this is bleah, putin will not attack ukraine, this is a bluff, this is all wrong . here at first they sold belarus, but then they bought belarus and it occupies it, they put their missile there, they all attacked ukraine, the situation is such that for moscow, moscow is waging one super-superrussian war against ukraine. there is a source of ukraine, ukrainians are standing and now it’s over, everything is settled in ukraine , before that i must say that

this is a hysterical moment, it hasn’t happened in 100 years, even when it’s time for me she is 18 years old although he was also a critical moment for the russian empire . europe must immediately understand the ball, america must establish mutual understanding among themselves, we see what is being fought, these are the three borders outlined and voiced by the states and returning to the question what does it matter for the entire planet? i fly because when these mordor crumbles will be with to everyone else, this will be the second situation of my colleagues, this will not happen when this

rotten world will not remain and this empire will be the end of everything, everything will happen again, everything will happen again at first, it can be like zelsin's democracy in russia. what kind of democracy could there be? so now when we say eh war eh ukraine will return all its land all russia will be settled there will be a new government there democrats will be announced everything will last 5-7-10 years everything will be peaceful and again with this is the matrix - this is the scheme of the empire until it will be founded. this is goethe's egalitarian mentality , which is very important. this mentality is for this time and will be today, as it is for the other mongol horde. this is a military state. this is a military state. time has been lived tsar nicholas and

said we are russia есть вооненее государ что межадить това энергосударство - this is an aggressive country that bets on its policy of seizing territories and their use before that borscht and not betting on the influence on the whole world of the so -called communist idea, the world revolution and so on , i did not spit on the communist idea. this was a russian imperialist idea, which to me was only a form on which the russian janissaries climbed. well, they set such a task. in this form, now i myself where is the war? well, we see what idea, what ideology, what kind of propaganda from putin, here he is gray in the eyes of america . all the time there will be a danger for europe, for all mankind, and all the time there will be warriors

, that's why now i'm a sucker, this is such a machine when it's over, everything depends on ukraine and depends on the democratic holiday hookah , but it's very drunk because i'm flying europe and the united states are processing time. i think that what mr. zno said is also important here, there is also a chance to a certain extent when he said that the russians underestimated the belarusian people themselves in 2020 when they combined this whole plan that was well it is obvious that what is happening, that these are some technological ideas, that at least if they do not want to get rid of lukashenka, then to significantly weaken him, the national reaction of the water could not have been predicted . and by the way, in 2013, when putin insisted that yanukovych renounce the

association agreement, well, they signed the agreement, but there would have been no revolution in 2013-14. yanukovych would have calmly led ukraine to where he wanted but this itself is an underestimation of the peoples of the former soviet union. maybe it creates a chance for the empire to be unable to recover. on the one hand, it is an old chance, on the other hand , it is finite. the empire sees that the national movement is being rebuilt and is trying to try . he won't allow it, because that's what zanosnye sladovych said. and you, uh, i think that in moscow , ukrainians and belarusians were treated by russian people all the time. cut it, he counted for quite a long time, he woke up much earlier, he began to iron on that, uh, i still yes, since the first war with ukraine, or

just like that, in belarus, the soft-pawn institutes worked hard, and it was stronger than in ukraine, although belarus was so strongly ethnic there is no sacred division. let’s say this. i was not as fashionable as ukraine . there was no such thing. in general, the west is the east, and from this you can take advantage of what was done in part from 2014. belarus was so much better . not territorial and it's cultural, it's homogenous, there were no strong divisions, you remember western and eastern belarus, that's why i think that the russians treated them, that they can go to belarus without problems, and without it , how can i attack and expreonovati in fact, starting from 12 and after that when putin came to power, and they

began to renew the institutions of uzdeniya , so strong as the growth of rossotrudnichestva, so the russian peace center, which worked in a lot of cities and in ugomlyu and in anna's birch, but they milled such centers, the gorchakovy fund, which patrolled the consideration of cultural cultural programs for russification by the way, in belarus the active action of other such uh-uh about russian uh-uh pro-russian organizations were like that so how is it necessary to have peace with russia, the russian union of the union state, and moreover, lukashenko allowed it after the events in ukraine took place in 2014, the russian belorussian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate appointed after

2014 pavlo sobsky yaki as metropolitan in fact, his appointment was filaret, who is more, less, less, who has such an internal position about the belarusian state, and with the arrival of paul, in fact, the russian glorious church became the leader , and somewhere after the first war of the russian version , lukashenko himself prepared the land for the pro-russian revolution, but eh, this is a mental code cultural codes and the conditional preservation of statehood and the creation of statehood , which began in 1991, the first building of historical memory without looking at the pro-soviet pro- russian decline in belarus in in belarusian schools, cultural codes have been taken , we can say that these are such archetypes, they are not there, they are formed inside the belarusian society, and as soon as

the window of informational, political silence was opened, after all, goethe 's cultural codes won when we say over cultural codes by russian cultural codes, then in belarusians, that nowadays russians are not in any way, i am not from russia, that there are a lot of people with whom i talked in the 20th year that were patrolled for belarusian ideas, i didn’t say na- it’s not important, viburnum, this is about putin predionete человек головное they will drop lukashenko and then we'll figure it out, that's a stretch, well , uh, such a motivation was first of all, lukashenko is an enemy, and putin is a skill, he can be an ally, we can deceive him, we can use him , and how to change the situation in belarus and then they will build a democracy without understanding what russia is. well, navyt valier tsypkalo said that there are elections in russia, there is a right-wing person, and the democrats,

well, what kind of a democrat is there, none the less, these are the methods of manipulation, the deception itself, they are the bottom existed, but you are less than me, the cultural codes of the national team won, it is very important, because in fact belarus showed itself, and belarus showed itself as the nation and this nation lukashenko , this is now, this is the greedy one, as now, in fact, ion performs the functions of the russian military administration, and so on. such an internal policy, which was carried out by the same babich kalib, he was appointed as the temporary head of any administration in chechnya, he destroyed all those who speak belarusian and who have anything to do with symbols on here are absurd, absolutely idiotic words, we don't have such words, how is it used to write the situation , pavlo belovus was arrested, who was engaged as a spokesman for the sale of

national symbols. i was arrested and jailed for spreading the word, and even though extremism is still rampant because of everything, we can’t get rid of him. they were arrested because he was policing a national idea that threatened the stability and security of belarus. when the slogan of belarus is alive is now recognized as extremist and almost nazi, that's all. that's it. the pyramid was performed by a certain lukashenko after 20 years, and it pursues exactly the same policy that muravyov the hangman pursued in his time. in the history of belarus, this

is the uprising of kostusya klinovsky to oppose the russian occupation of the russian aggression, where does kriminovsky stand, my brothers said to the people, "you will live freely when the muscovy will not stand over you and today we are watching it and belarus does not understand goethe, we understand free fertilizers and for all this the first and ukrainians and belarusians paid with their blood for what we the ukrainians and the belarusians are oppressing your freedom , and this must be remembered. now we are moving with everything to a new one. i am confident in the healthy formation of a regional civilization and in goethe's regional civilization there is definitely no place for russia, because it will be everywhere the source of extermination and destruction of those of the state segments of the statehood of the nation of belarus of ukraine, here i want to comment on one thing, i

remembered bilous, this is where the national beacons were sold, that means his accusers are extremists, there is motorism, and nationalism means nationalism. всё могу и так далее что это говорит это is said in those who returned to the 1930s, because in the 1930s we even had nationalism, it went like this wording under which it was possible they are being shot and killed every day in belarus, 30-40 people are arrested every day, not because i do not recognize myself as a limit, because there are no more resources, resources do not allow for a thousand, and for every day, a belarusian is arrested, but who is arrested like this? people they don't call the zoo, they

throw out the animals, they put a grenade there, they run into the apartment, everyone on the floor, they beat and destroy the sanitary ware, they put the furniture with a complete coup, uh, well, that's what this is for attention, it's an occupation, there, it's correct, absolutely , lukashenko is just actually fulfilling the role the occupation administration accompanies its people with such an occupation policy , they prepare the square yes, novograd, i know a grandiose war, no matter how much resistance there is, because they are not afraid of resistance, lukashenka is afraid that when he starts a war, he will fall . genocide, this time is important to understand. but to europe in ukraine, i am

flying to ukraine, this time is important to understand because, er, i have such an opinion that well, here are the people who think. people in even this is the first period in ukraine's history when such a failure by international organizations arises, uh , about this question, i'll tell you one story, uh, so we had such a free home, the rpc village, larisa evgenivna, uh, she was sitting in a vacuum, that's how i was a political slave, i converted later after this of all congresses, i didn't accept anya's citizenship in the soviet one, and so i talked with her, uh, on the idea that they were planted together with the camp, i told such a story, their signals at the stage in this camp. there, a man is hanging around, uh, he sends people out as they brought bread, and now they bring them several

books for everything, here are sheds, your brother brings bread, this is the time when the doors are opened, three criminals with knives are brought in and take away everything is silent and that's how it was three men with knives, i'm organized troika organized 1000 people not organized not just prisoners i don't want to do anything i wasn't starving but the very fact that and why uh-uh korea isn't opposed do you understand why except for this adversary what is the occupation what is that systemic displacement and control over every person, this is something that must be understood as a very terrible phenomenon when control over every person is resisted, when violence occurs, when everyone is arrested at ulytka, the bald

fear and the people are not organized, because a part of it is sitting on the sidelines, a part of it was expelled from the border , leader extermination and in this situation, uh, witches, but do not recklessly accuse the people , it is necessary to embarrass the regime of the occupier, these are those who are carrying out genocide, these are the ones who must be accused, and i must remember the competition a the people here are already suffering because they say that he got on the board. but this is a difficult period. it is not necessary to survive. you must gather strength in any situation. that is how i told that story behind that laser for three days of their lessons. they took away the bread, and then they still united and the victory, so for this we need a share to gather strength. i think that eh, this time in belarus it is on

its own. in fact, because there are so to come eh citizens, civilians, the intelligentsia, so this is the turk for whom to kill an anonymous person, of no significance, one 10-20 if this was done, everything was being done, they were working, goethe logs, eh, that’s the same thing, in fact, well, he is fighting his belarussian bots, people who are now eh implementing a policy of terror. i am not between i can't kill you, i can't do it, in fact, here you go, too, it's the urks, criminals who have access, first of all, to weapons, and secondly, unlimited access to their money. it's mmm, well, they say in belarus, it 's such a partisan nation, here they bring examples of the 41st there, 40/4 hours operation concerts, how did they tax the technicians there, in fact,

they looked over the logistics of the germans there, but they forget one thing, there were people with weapons, people had weapons in byelorussians get weapons there are no weapons when you will be in the 20th century, well conditionally yes, then we in what quantities will i drink there is not the one that lukashenko was not able to hold on to power over the inauguration of putin in belarus by the way, thanking you because ukraine at this time is a good, good example when a-a fought back organizations in 2014 for these, partly the army and partly just the same volunteers who compensated for the shortcomings, but the people had a thin maxim, the belarusians will receive weapons in this machinery, unfortunately, there was no uprising again in the 20th year from the in the 14th year of ukraine, all the same,

belarusians fought off the process with all the other systems, the yanukovych system seemed to be so strongly organized, and thankfully the first maidan was fought there, if all the others were maidans, because after all, the ukrainian community was more democratic, the ukrainian state was not let's say classic democrats, but much more democratic and civil tools worked, why did belarus in belarus, the events of the 20th year took place in the conditions of vehicular concentration riots, and in fact there was a protest without armed people against these lessons, but only did not want the maximization of maxim's political will of the organization, because it was just not there were those people who led the way and built a barricade , and even now this giant is simpler not only because there are no material resources for organizing the resistance, although there are examples and belarusian e-e let's say that the partisans, which

by their health and life, of course, this is not a mass phenomenon, this is an individual, partial group, or this is an indicator of what people wanted and will compete only now, no . i think that this necessary resource will appear as soon as the ion appears. что супротив под имется и мог бы очень очень очень очень от another weapon от 2 minutes i give one and a half, even one and a half minutes yes so here are such uh-uh uh-uh uh-uh my remark first of all uh-uh it is necessary to understand that belarus is 28 years old, she chewed in the state internal occupation, here is lukashenko, whom moscow brought to power, he pursued politics for the benefit of moscow, he found the school of the nation, all this is internal occupation, which is a person who carried out someone else's policy, this should be increased, and the second one is counter-weapons, eh, we seriously say when we stumble with our people that the guys are not afraid of mobilization go, mobilize, and weapons will be removed from weapons, everyone will have

a second conversation, this is a good answer and a good ending to our conversation . pavlousova to the belarusian political scientist and expert, thank you for being on our broadcast today, i wish you a successful stay here on ukrainian soil, and we will return to our conversation with the guests literally in a few minutes now i want you to watch the stories that our colleagues made in bakhmut the eastern fortress of ukraine, the russian enigmas have been trying to capture this city for six months now. every hour, even every minute, the occupiers are shelling the settlement with all types of artillery, tanks, rifles of weapons, there is not a single safe house left in the city. despite that, there are still thousands of civilians, our compatriots with you, the espresso film crew visited bakhmut to find out how our fellow citizens live there, how they survive there, the road we need is very high, at

least 120 km bakhmut today is completely controlled by the armed forces of ukraine, but the shooting here does not stop even for a minute, this is exactly the situation in bakhmut, so they are constantly shelling day and night. and we live just when you had a nightmare in general got here, there is no life in bakhmut in the city, there is no communication, light heating, water and gas , any infrastructure or self- governing bodies, here you can only survive from the

cold , just freeze yourself in the apartment. pipes lie in any way, you can get help at humanitarian headquarters and points of indomitability , only here you can feel safe, warm and cozy, which means wi-fi, we have starline, people can see, well, talk to their relatives , he comes to each point of indomitability every day about 100 people like this 17-year-old boy. what about us? you are not leaving yet. there are no acquaintances to go to them. you live here by yourself. there is a family. there is no. mom, i and my grandmother are here in this town. well, this is a part of the river that goes beyond it. bahmuttku now i'm shelling all the city is divided by the bach river