if all the world society is on, but do you also think that this can happen, let's say, before the deoccupation of donbas, or now the order does not have such a priority, you know, i have such a belief. it is my personal opinion that this will happen before the deoccupation of donbas, and it is actually connected the current configuration of the situation on the front we already has a rather serious effect on the enemy and let's say this in the area of ​​the kherson triangle, the enemy cannot build up to a certain limit that guaranteed the inviolability of this area its forces and means, because we are constantly striking it, destroying it and destroying its infrastructure with its command centers, places of concentration of personnel . thus, we have already created the prerequisites for our promotion of the supply of such weapons, which have already been declared and transferred to us, which indicates that we will expand the geography of such strikes, and the supply itself uh, armored vehicles say that we can

do it again, you or even the specifics of the terrain, well, let's think. it's one thing to fire the same armored personnel carriers or tanks somewhere on the streets of uh, those places once upon a time were called the cities of donbass. and it is quite another to take me to the early operations in the steppes of southern ukraine, this is a much easier task, given that we can already, in a practical sense, talk about the time of providing us with f-16 or other western aviation equipment, such is the algorithm of it seems the most expedient . thank you to serhiy for this conversation. serhiy, a county military expert, a member of the peacekeeping posts and a reserve colonel, we were in touch in the espresso studio . not yet cinema, television, sport, music, education

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actions than now when strikes are made exclusively on military critical infrastructure used by the kyiv regime, taking into account the technological superiority of russian weapons by foreign politicians, what decisions are these the solution must be understood, it can end in a world-scale tragedy that will destroy their countries, arguments that nuclear powers have never used before weapons of mass destruction in local conflicts cannot be taken into account because these states did not face a situation when there was a threat to the safety of their citizens and the territorial integrity of the country, first of all, the topic of the exclusive spirituality of the russian people is not disclosed, i do not understand why, maybe in other telegram posts, i cannot read them volodya's entire telegram channel is on without uh-uh, we understand that the statement must be complete, second uh-

uh , i also reacted to this today. if nothing can be countered, it is necessary to counter it. i have long opposed weapons . there is their logic in this. we have nothing else . well, then we are blackmailing you with nuclear weapons. for example, the russian leadership conducted such a dirty bomb information operation when literally several of them, and by the way , also accused the ukrainian leadership of preparing a nuclear bomb, but according to my observations, there is a consensus in western countries i think that he is relying on the information that was received through diplomatic channels that all the official nuclear states, well

, including china, which is closest to russia politically, not only geographically, but politically, they have demonstrated it is unequivocally that this cannot be, that is, what will be applied - and the fighter johnson literally this week made it clear in an interview with the european truth that the event in such a way, well, that is, that they conveyed the corresponding position to the kremlin and obviously said about the readiness to inflict well, it actually looks like a rather complicated scenario, but i will remind you that in september of this year, the ukrainian generals of zaluzha zabrodsky emphasized that even a tactical nuclear strike will not stop ukraine's actions to restore its territorial integrity, that is, in this

matter, everything is enough. well, i think clearly but i consider this statement of volodin in a complex way. that is , it is uh, accordingly, they obviously have a week coming to an end. well, like everyone else in principle, they are also trying to demonstrate that they are working the weekend, he says it's just that a person got drunk on friday night and woke up in the morning. this is our favorite explanation, it's about medvedev, we won't talk about it now, but what medvedev called yesterday a national war is what's happening. its foundation because russia is very active, at least speculating on military-historical topics, but it all started on monday viktor medvedchuk news. then, to a certain extent, andriy larion picked him up because of the fact that there will be something so extraordinary, extremely terrible, and

now we see a definite end to this and no, then there was informational hysteria that putin would go to st. petersburg and say something like that. well, he didn’t say anything, that is, he didn’t say anything new, that the banders rule ukraine and uh, they are neo-nazis, well, that’s putin’s news, that’s exactly why , volodya. well, i think that’s already the case er, formally, formally, i'm not saying that the budget should be used, but well, obviously there is an information plan and they are following it. but it cannot be connected with the attempt to press on certain circles in berlin, let's say to stop the transfer of leopards, that's what they are talking about there about weapons there it's not just that there, well, you're going to supply them with weapons, this is a global catastrophe, we'll destroy you all, then they're children in that case, i mean, the appeal is not to ukraine, you don't know, let them use western nuclear weapons of anti-western countries against ukraine regarding ukraine

, there is the position of sergey lavrov, who gave a press conference and he said that zelenskyi has nothing to negotiate about, but there is nothing to discuss separately in the case of ukraine, but if the event makes some kind of proposal for us, then we will to discuss, let me remind you that the first such message was that in december 21st, when it was proposed that the west should not just refuse the expansion of nato, but also withdraw from those countries where it received a military presence after this expansion . in temples, at the solemn prayer for the health of vladimir vladimirovich putin, order, well, the logic is something

like this. of the world gymnastics championship but i think that in this sense the germans no longer depend on the opinion of the kremlin on the opinion of their fellow citizens . the issue of the transfer of weapons, in particular, the leopards, is still there. well, the fluctuation that should be used is used by russia on its part, and i will remind you that there is a russian-speaking diaspora of several million in germany . i think that now because of it, the russians too they are actively working because they work according to the

principle of compost, that is, not directly. putin is calling scholz. he can directly communicate with macron there. year, well, actually, yes, and not at the end, yes, but uh, i think that, for ukraine, this should be a signal that ukraine has something to do, it should work because of approximately one million of our refugees who are in germany, they there, as they said in the soviet union is on a good shield and well , it is enough for itself, that is, in what sense are they not trying to live on social security? they are looking for

a job. there was a rally in front of the bundeschancellor's residence after rammstein ended. since it ended, it must somehow be directed through various steps that would be supported no less by ukraine. by the way, about rammstein, do you really think that rammstein ended exactly the failure to resolve the tank issue or the fact that the ukrainian military will be trained on the leopard still says that an informal decision is already being made. in such cases, you know, i always ask to go back to a year ago. we heard that a year ago we actively saw maps in including in the german press. yes, and then they corresponded to the reality in general, as russian troops would enter, and it was indeed

implemented later, but there were also predictions that ukraine would collapse, the armed forces of ukraine won't last. that is, it was all a process of making sensitive military and political decisions in the western world, it really has an unprecedented character in this case, because the scale of the war is also unprecedented , and if we calculate that olaf scholz what eh well known as eh well, he is quite a cautious politician. well, if only because he was also the minister of finance in the previous coalition government led by angela merkel, that is, he must count not only money, but also moves, as preferentialists or chess players, he accordingly stands out for himself such a perspective that will be as acceptable as possible for him, and if we talk about the fact that a year ago, i want to refer to this statement made during the last

economic forum yesterday by the former secretary of state of the united states, e.e. henrika, who said that ukraine should be in a state of starvation, has no reasons to oppose this now, and that a year ago, if we look at the statement of the number of lives, they were of the exact opposite content, he does not hide this, this is also a variable for a year, and it is obviously not a personal position, right away we can say that a person is almost 100 years old and he is able to change his position and western politicians should also take the example of injera skis, who is to a large extent a world icon of geopolitical thought and about precisely because he was always able to change his position, well, actually, and i think that shuttle diplomacy thanks to which kiytsider entered the history of international relations to a large extent, and he tried to be flexible in his position, but the reasons are that you

agree with the explanation of self-oxidation, as he says, you know, i did not want ukraine to join nato because i did not want for the war to take place and now that the war has taken place also what did i try to do why did i try to prevent why should i oppose this is a logical explanation for you a logical explanation in the paradigm of western political thought because on the one hand there is a desire for dialogue there is a desire to hear the interlocutor but on the other hand on the other hand, there is a humanistic component, that is, it is not possible for me, for example, kizisher in this sense. well, so to speak, a pensioner in a square . he has been a pensioner for a long time and he can change his opinion, we are more interested the opinion of those who make real political decisions here and now and us. that is why we need to tell them. your position affects how many

ukrainian citizens die. this is how the president continues in our country, as you say. this is how we continue the battle, the struggle, the battle of good and evil. you can choose. are you on the side? good, and then there should be a proactive position. are you on the side of anger, then you stay away, but this should also be communicated by the relevant persons or the president or the minister of foreign affairs. because when it is communicated by numerous advisers, it is communication. even through twitter as a tool of the west communication with the western establishment is communication to nowhere. well, in my opinion, that is, we still have to come to uh. i would not like the war to last so long that we come to this during the war, but due to our internal evolution, we have to come to that in this in the case of the current ruling team, the life of the international of ukraine did not begin

on may 20, 2019, but was even before it, and there are a number of former ministers, prime ministers , defense ministers, secretaries of the national security council, and presidents who are fully conscious and fully capable of conveying information to the highest lizi all the more so in our country, russian aggression has created a unique situation when they listen to ukraine, maybe they don't want to, but this is such a large-scale war that no one can just be like the three famous monkeys. well, what do you think the russians are interested in now about large-scale wars? this property was localized in the east and in the south, so that they would try to come to some sort of agreement again at the expense of such a localized conflict, do they not think they claim such goods , they need success first of all, which is possible in

including selling within the country because in reality, as far as i know, it is mathematically impossible to calculate where the limit of losses is, what is the percentage of the total population there, well, it is clear that if such a country is as large as the russian federation , then even 1%, that is, it is already more than about about one and a half million this is already a lot here, it cannot be calculated, that is, we can see that they were preparing to solve the issue in three days, maybe four, well, in hot pursuit in order to change the executive managers in to put your puppets in ukraine at the highest, highest level, and already with their hands, according to the principle

, they are not there to act and say no to the west. look, the trident is in place, the blue-yellow flags are in place, everything is in place. signed some documents, they say again we are ready for life black sea fleet we are ready for life for the russian military presence there, well, some gangs are running through the forests, well, you have such gangs running through the forests well, this is the logic of russian propaganda about what you have there is an agrarian being hanged well, there is nothing strange about it and there is such a protracted war , that is, on the one hand, putin has no way out. he is also promoting the thesis that a nuclear state cannot lose. although it is nuclear. yes, because it is nuclear. that's why it's the first thing and the second thing, well, anyway, even though the vast majority of the russian population lives according to the principle of living well, they don't have anything and they start

, but still, there are some movements within the establishment, they are present and well, i think which, let's say indirectly, is evidenced by the strengthening of beauty, which shows that he is he er, he shows that he sneezes on everyone from a higher bell tower than putin, and he does this demonstratively, you know, yes, it’s delicious, having not only his army, his media empire, and he also has his own film empire, and that too. i think against the background of that that now the access of hollywood blockbusters is limited on the territory of russia. i think that prigozhin film production will just flourish. and tell me, mr. yevgeny, because you mentioned medvedchuk's article that appeared in the newspaper on monday, this does not mean that the appearance of this article and this concept of ukraine as of a second russia and friendly to russia. are they again returning to this idea that was in

february 2022, let's still give it our compromise that ukraine will exist but as a vassal state and stop the war, just give them medvedchuk eh, well, first of all, we we understand that no one in ukraine will do this, i don't understand at all why it was published well, we are aware that certain information actions they must be correlated with the general information process and i don't understand why it was published article a-a after after sociological polls where 96% believe in the armed forces of ukraine, well, this is with the small exception of a statistical error, this means that practically every adult citizen, and i think. well, children who have already seen all this since february 24, they also support the opinion of their relatives accordingly, well , again, uh, i read it. well, that's how it was.

it was difficult, difficult, not because of, well, she's not interesting. you don't understand. well, if a person throws such a thing, then she must be kind of interesting. she must be bright. well, there such the impression that he is boring in himself well, he is like that and even probably the spies who write to you, they understand what he is like. and you know that according to the laws of the genre, he should be er, well, in the temperament of his client, otherwise they will have a complete imbalance, but it is not in terms of content in terms of form, she does not correspond, well, excuse me , this is a stamp of the spirit of the times, that is, she is simply to show, well, it is possible for putin to put a check mark because putin later said in st. petersburg that we know that

many people in ukraine are aware of the real situation and they are talking about it, that is, who is viktor medvedchuk coma taras kozak coma well mykola now yes we also gave some big interview now he has appeared again but so far viktor yanukovych no maybe he will be from monday well viktor yanukovych i don't think he enjoys such trust as viktor medvedchuk or even mykola azarov , azarov, unlike yanukovych, is public, well, in his networks. he is more active there, his position. well, that is, he is there. you know the impression that they, uh, are also azarov medvedchuk, each in his own way, they sign up every day in receiving russian passports, you know, they confirm that they are being blackmailed by taking them and extraditing them back to ukraine, so they are forced to emphasize their pro-russianness

even more. behaved like people who primarily take into account russian interests, by the way, this distinguished them to a certain extent from yanukovych, why did i mention yanukovych, yanukovych and yanukovych have their own interests of the family, yes, the family came first and for a real person, a real person who focuses on putin, the interests of the kremlin come first, and then his money, this is a conclusion, by the way, nazarbayev is also a good example, he was also never fully trusted because his family's interests came first, forget about a family when there is a slavic woman, but this is their principle of life for these people, but well, you know it on the one hand, and on the other hand, according to my observations, having at their disposal, well, frankly, more than a dozen people who moved from here to moscow they start from the 14th year, russia. i don’t see how russia uses them, well, that is, not yakymenko,

who there actually headed the special services in the kherson region. well, do you understand whether this is a downshift for the former head of the sbu, even if he finished the boards of the military school ? it's one thing when you headed the special service of an entire state, and it's another thing even if you're a former one, and another thing when you headed something well, i don't agree, i think that all these people are idiots, they can't really be used, remember how they performed their official duties here as a minor not uh the mafia is like a criminal trifle. if we are talking about a certain yakymenko or zakharchenko, well, remember. i have seen it in my own life experience, how these people work as a mafia, such a small mafia, that is, they can not adequately assess the situation. what was kopytsky doing, he created falsified polls falsified for yanukovych that yanukovych

liked how ukrainians perceive life now he creates falsified polls for putin, what is the danger of falsified polls polls in that you rely on them to make some decisions, then it turns out that this is a completely different situation. well, in principle, if you are what they say to you, we have a ukrainian sociologist in kopatsk, he has a large database of information, and he will now bring you a real study on what he does is there a left to center real ukrainian in this? he has already worked in ukraine, even here on all the tv channels, interviews, and in different ones, and you have been taking resumes since the 14th year, there is no such thing in ukraine. well, you said, having so many people who went there with shovels has in ukraine but same he worked in ukraine, but he also works in russia, but they used him, you say. they just don’t use them. these people are the same as they were here, they stayed with the ones there, or some punitive person who constantly performs there at pro- gandist shows, but he was saying the same stupid thing here it did not correspond to reality, but

he should make zatulin pay him a salary, but for that he can still pay this salary, i do not know the fsb and he says what he said in kyiv, these people do not correct their positions because their task to earn money well, if their task is to earn money, then they are russian employers, they are simply idiots because they pay money for er, knowingly or not knowingly or unknowingly, knowingly or unknowingly entering into deception, the mystery here yevhena is that in what way putin, who worked for the state security committee of the ussr and he himself knew exactly how the state security committee of the ussr gave the party leadership information so that the party leadership was not angry with him. the same trap that they have created for decades by the party members of ukraine, this is a mystery to me, the fact that they are idiots is not surprising to me

well, it’s just that they don’t have democratic processes inside russia, that’s why the system of bronzing in practice, well, in fact, putin is such a peculiar midast only he, er, creates around everything that turns bronze does not become gold, and everything is actually quality, you know. well, bronze and gold. thank you, mr. evgeny. evgeny magne , the executive director of the institute of world politics was with us in the studio. we will continue our conversation with the guests. literally in a few minutes and now we will talk again about what is happening with the supply of leopard, we talked about it with mr. yevhen and now the plot is about germany 49% of germans consider it a wrong decision of the government of germany to supply ukraine with bmp mander 50% are against the transfer of leopard tanks - these are the results of a survey which conducted by the ims institute of sociology at the behest of the biltenzon newspaper so why, after all, do the majority of german citizens speak out against the supply of heavy goods in our country, let's see, experts are not

surprised by the results of the survey, they say politicians who sought rapprochement with russia had a significant influence on the current position of the germans, but those who are now in power do not want to enter into an open confrontation with the russian federation either, they are an important partner for them who always offered favorable conditions for cooperation europe named after lebnitz, regensburg, the party of chancellor a scholz, in its program, however, ruled that peace in europe is impossible without russia. that is, we cannot fight with russia, and so far they have not changed this in their program although she promised, in addition, modern germans believe that giving weapons to ukraine will provoke russia. not the outbreak of an even worse war in europe . german citizens no longer fear the third world war or the use of nuclear weapons

after world war ii. they don't have such a vision, they see the scenario as korea, that is, there is something donbas and crimea let 's give it all to russia and it will stop killing the civilian population but if we ukraine has heavy weapons, there are leopard tanks and so on, on the contrary. the union that the germans associate with the russian federation won the second world war, and the germans feel a collective guilt towards the russian federation because it is considered the main victim of the biggest war of the last century, and before ukraine is treated as a former russian colony, the germans do not know eastern europe at all, there is a constantly present fantasy about great russia and small states