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it is genocide, do you think that the international red cross can be allowed to trust this report , yes, you are absolutely correct in emphasizing the problem, and this problem is already long-standing, and we see how a large number of infiltrated russian agents are also in various organizations. that is, it is not only the red cross this cross is the same as the osce, and we have seen that, in particular, from the post-soviet space, there are all these russian-speakers who, for some reason, have a good command of russian and were well connected to russian influences. for some reason, they all had such a non-engaged position. well, at the moment, we have to follow a certain procedure there, and there are many other participants in this international organization who still do not understand how it is possible to lie so obviously, and that is why this work is precisely the delivery of the truth about russian influences in
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various international organizations, and in particular in this one. well, it must continue. we must still shape the public opinion of our western partners, now the island, you mentioned the osce, we talked about it yesterday or the day before yesterday, about these cars, 50 toyota land cruisers in such eh good armored ones, which the osce mission at the beginning of the war very quickly packed its bags and left for safe europe, and the cars remained , and then later the russians stole them, and now these cars are driving there in the territories of the occupied ukrainian donbas, even they were not repainted, they were branded by the osce, so they are they drive and now the obseska has passed after a year, let’s return our cars, because there, for sure, we have to submit some kind of report, report it, well, the structure is respectable and reports are given a lot of attention there . what do you think about these
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cars as a result, will russia give it to the osce, well, putin said, in general, we will now withdraw from all the agreements within the framework of the council of europe that we signed, what agreements have we signed, what will happen to these cars as a result, eh? well, there is no one to appeal to, i think that they will be destroyed simply by the fire of our artillery, because well, if the equipment is used by the enemy and contributes precisely to aggression, that is, well, this is obviously a legitimate target that the osce mission allowed and did not take any measures during the year so that the occupiers under the guise of a peacekeeping mission used any equipment. that is, it can be video cars and ordinary stickers for ordinary clothes. this is a direct violation of all international rules of warfare. this cannot be the case, and this passive position of the osce, well, this can actually be
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considered as condoning aggression. well, but we see that russia paid the largest membership fees to various international organizations , and in particular to this one, and i think that it was precisely money that caused the fact that, well, they are acting so slowly and so ineffectively, and this is also acting in particular organization, i.e. one more confirmation of the fact that russia cannot be in any decent international organizations at all, and in particular in the security council of the united nations, that is, it should simply be excluded, it is a terrorist state and an inadequate partner with whom it is simply impossible, there is no way to negotiate, this is the process how quickly decisions will be made how quickly russia will get rid of all international mandates, this will indicate the viability or, on the contrary, the viability of institutions and here is the war in ukraine - this shows very, very acutely today. well, let's just simulate the
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situation if, for example, ukrainian artillery covers a car with russian soldiers who will move on this branded armored jeep, then what publicity can the russians raise that the ukrainians are shelling someone there we are peaceful observers and so on, such a story is possible and such a story will absolutely happen because the russians are constantly trying to portray us as fascists the nazis are the radicals and the like, it is another matter that the russians simply do not believe the russians, that is, any statement of the russians can be immediately interpreted as exactly the opposite, and it is clear that they themselves understand that no one believes them either official statements, that is, all their media are mouthpieces of propaganda, all their officials are their statements are worthless, they do not reflect any facts, the only thing
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they can do is that they again launched their threats about nuclear blackmail about what in particular, yesterday on the air, they have a fact that the deputy of their state threatened directly in the cities of the united states, that is, if it is still possible until february 24, it could still be perceived as, well, you know, some kind of exaggerated threats, after the aggression here what about us when they just bomb our cities, that is, because the fucking civil infrastructure well, it is clear that i am russia, it is a threat to the whole world, and the question is how quickly the world will react with real measures and how quickly this threat will be eliminated here. the question is that there are still in there are three more employees in russian captivity, even the osce. i will even name their last name so that the world just knows maksym petrov, their names are also vadim golda and dmytro eh
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shabanov, that is, the people are unknown in what condition, where they may have been tortured or they have already become crippled there well, god forbid that they are alive and well, but in case something happens to them , you can just plant the whole car, take it under fire or just blow it up to the russians themselves, and then say something, the ukrainians blew up real osce employees who we let them go by car, but they didn't get there. unfortunately, they went to the front line or to europe. where were they going, and on this point the question will be closed with three of the three actually kidnapped representatives of the place who have been illegally held captive for almost a year, actually in russian. and what about no one there knows absolutely absolutely about them and they don’t even need to wait for some of our shelling, their doctrine of the introduction of hybrid warriors, they are precisely aimed at arranging such informational provocations and well, the only thing is a pity
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that this is not just information behind such provocations since the 14th year there have been shelling of residential areas of the entire city of donetsk, luhansk, and now, of course, that the russians will not stop. not in front of any victims, and even more so, some three employees of the osce. well, in ukraine today, let's give information about the supply of weapons, let's talk about the arrival of another british helicopter sitting or sea king this was announced by the minister of defense oleksiy reznikov well, the day before there was a lot of talk about the supply of other aircraft, in particular f16 f15 well, but so far even before tanks have not come to the fore. how do you see the prospect of providing aviation equipment to the ukrainians? and what kind of a british king is this? yes, it’s a sea king. that is, a large helicopter in some modifications is called a sub
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-threat, or something like a submarine storm. but i think that in this modification, which is transferred to us, this rescue transport helicopter is a mandatory addition to the fleet, that is, a few more corvettes are just transferred to us by britain, that is, here and here, i would divide the delivery of the mass armament of the same tanks or infantry weapons vehicles that are being transferred to us today or the issue of their transfer is being resolved, this is just an example of the real consistent work of great britain and that is helping us to restore the status of a maritime power, that is, we can see what they have provided, they regularly provide small sea boats that can carry small assault groups in the spetsnaz, we also see larger e-e corvettes, and now we see them in addition. that is, it is naval aviation e and the transfer of these helicopters, that is, we are gradually
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building up our forces precisely at sea. and this will mean that we will gain more influence, at least in the northwestern waters of the black sea, and after gradually pushing out the russians from there, this is exactly the example of how to systematically help, and you see exactly the example for germany and to some extent the united states, which well, which in the coalition should occupy the leading positions. but the decision on tanks has not yet been made, although there are no objective reasons why we will not receive these tanks. of course, we have already received them . well, we are already on the last step. that is, we will receive these bmps, this is a large caterpillar for armored vehicles, and so it is quite fair that it is necessary to also receive tanks, either leopards or abrams, well,
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you see, only the british showed an example with their challengers, that is, in the hope that it will unlock, that is, that this example will unlock the supply for now well, it didn't happen that way, but we will definitely get these tanks. well, you see , we have to go through the same path that we went through with the howitzers before, when they said that it was impossible, then we dragged out this process, and in the end, we got these howitzers, then on those the air defense systems themselves are cheetahs, irises, when there was also a very significant delay in the process. in the end, we will get these air defense systems, so it will be the same with tanks. we will get them. but again , every day because of such a delay is the life of our fighters. serhiy, well, today is the prime minister of poland and mateusz marovecki, his name, stated that if germany will push its horn on the issue of supplying us with
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leopards, then the poles will form a smaller coalition, and a smaller police force will have to be formed without the participation of the germans. he stated this in in an interview with the pnp edition, he was also asked there about his opinion on the results of the eighth ramstein, which was a disappointment for many, and he answered that he considers germany's behavior unacceptable and does not understand what else he has statuses for berlin to open their eyes to this quote and start acting in accordance with their potential of germany and said that if germany does not agree to the leopards, then we will build a smaller coalition of states ready to share their modern tanks with ukraine, but there it seems. norm is this a gentleman's agreement that weapons are provided only with the consent and not of the manufacturer of these weapons, i.e. if the manufacturer of leopards is to the germans, then poland cannot hand over these leopards if germany is against ukraine even
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if everyone there is for germany against is this a gentleman's agreement is this some kind of international agreement can poland give us these tanks without the consent of the germans, yes, you are right, this is a general rule and it is related to control over the circulation of weapons, that is, it is the country that produces the weapons that must give its final consent , even if these weapons formally do not even belong to it well, this agreement, or rather, this rule is in effect precisely so that weapons do not fall into enemy hands, that is, so that the very country that produced the weapons, that developed them, sold or transferred these weapons, so that later the same technique is not used against the same country or against its allies, that's where the rule of consent comes from, but this is quite such a subtle legal conflict because formally germany is not against it. that is, in all its
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public statements it expresses that it is in favor of handing over the leopards, but it begins after that, but various conditions need to be taught there, it is necessary for the americans to give their abrams or many other conditions and agreements that are essentially meaningless, and therefore the most important rule, the most important rule , it can be observed, if not formally , that is, if the letter of the law is not observed, then the spirit the law will be respected if we receive these leopards because we are formally an ally of germany, that is, we are in the same coalition with it, this is what is called the rammstein format. in this war, we will receive perhaps if poland dares to hand over we will receive such a weapon as a member of this coalition, which was specifically created to defend the independence of ukraine
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. not against its allies, and that's why the spirit of this norm, this norm, it is actually maintained, but formally a paper well, of course, with a signature . weapons to any enemies of germany and nowhere, and we ourselves are not going to use these tanks against germany, that's why, actually, what this norm was created for, we fully comply with it. well, the prime minister of poland said that ukraine and europe will win this war with or without germany said mr. tadeusz marovetsky, for which we thank him mr. serhii, and i asked this question yesterday, i wanted to ask you and why did everything focus on germany, that no one in the world produces tanks anymore? excuse me, if germany were an enemy, not an enemy,
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an ally of russia, well, let's imagine such a fantasy at the current time, ukraine would not have received any tanks at all. i would like to ask a very interesting question. leopards and these are american abrams eh and eh if we look further, if we remove germany from this equation, for example, where in fact this tank is most closely adapted to our conditions, that is, there is this diesel engine there, it is the easiest to maintain eh this one at least 10 other countries have already agreed to the tank. that is, we have the preliminary agreement of ten european countries that are armed with this tank, that is, it is really massive , reliable, and well, we can say that according to
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the price-quality ratio, as they say, it is the most optimal option for us, but the americans and the british also have their own tanks and for example, the british have a plan - the british planned to reduce their challengers, that is, it means that we could theoretically get a few dozen more to these 14 pieces, again, the argument of the americans that well, abrams, they have a gas turbine engine and they are so difficult to maintain. well, i apologize, and countries like morocco or like egypt or others well, what do we call third world countries, what kind of post i already i'm not talking about poland, that is, which the united states put, but the same iraq, if you take it. that is, there are american weapons there, these abrams are there, they were used in afghanistan. well, i don't think that our military specialists are worse than
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the military from iraq. therefore, it is obvious that these difficult negotiations are going on and where is this? it is difficult to say, that is, how is the solution to be solved, or will the weapons go? and who will receive compensation for these weapons, but in general, i do not see objective reasons why we do not can we receive additional challenges or, for example , why can't we get at least a symbolic number of abrams together? alone please a minute p serhiu well, then, with belarus, one question, our gur informs that the instigation of the topic of the threat of attack by the belarusians is a russian ipso, that is, an informational and psychological special operation, if you think about this, please ask here, of course , our intelligence has all the complete
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information and although the russians and closed the adjacent border areas for training. that is, there was a transfer of equipment, but in fact all the information is in our intelligence and the ukrainian side sees absolutely all the movements and all those attempts to create excitement around the northern border. so, as of now, there are no groups sufficient to really threaten kyiv or our northern regions on the territory of belarus. thank you , serhii kuzan, military expert, head of the ukrainian security center. thank you for including . of the french edition well, not the publication of the frantz 24 television company, such a holding, not even only the french 24 television company about the situation in the ukrainian bahamut and also about the fate of people who, well, even in bahamut living there they adhere to different positions
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regarding their future in ukraine or in the territory occupied by russia, we are looking at the conflict in the family even in bakhmut, please bakhmut bakhmut december 2022, the city became the most active and toughest front line in ukraine, the city is divided by the bakhmutka river. part of the city, russian troops entered the outskirts of the city from the east, and street battles began on both sides, and
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artillery works day and night, forward, don’t stop , forward forward, as far as possible, all ukrainians the military is returning from advanced positions that are only a few hundred meters from here, the information is secret. but i can say that there are skirmishes, we fired at them and they answered us, we pushed them back a little, everything is normal, this is a tragedy - this is death, this is
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someone's life, the future of their families, ukraine will win this the building serves as an evacuation point for wounded soldiers, this is where our guys work, where they are, they are very close, 200-300 meters at the most, they are currently fighting where the russians want to take it. this city is because of its logistical importance, then they could attack slovyansk and kramatorsk from here. we cannot allow them to do this. after a month of
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constant shelling, local residents no longer pay attention to the fact that battles are taking place around them every day they pass here. they already disregard and are not afraid of such a situation for they are normal. we are asking you to leave this territory . yes, they could not. yes, what are you doing in this sector? active shelling is taking place here. bakhmut , before the war, 70 thousand people lived in bakhmut, but now it is a solid battlefield somewhere in the city has no water, gas, electricity, telephone and internet anna mykola and their three children are in a hurry to one of the local humanitarian centers seriously please skip tell the locals come here to
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charge their phones use the wi-fi to keep warm just to talk to someone the house was hit by a projectile fortunately our entire apartment was damaged, the neighbor's was damaged. my husband and i put out the fire. my school was destroyed . i studied at school number five. evacuation. if you want to evacuate, there is a nice house. the owners are giving away the whole house. calling them is an ideal option for living with children, we understand that there are good people who can shelter us and help us , but they will have to go somewhere themselves and then they will have to be helped, you understand, at first the fighting continues here, but soon it may be there too dear mykhailo
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, the volunteer failed to convince anna and her family to leave the city, people live in basements , all they listen to is russian radio, they spent a long time in an information vacuum , they were told that all the men would be taken to the army or will be sent to prison and many other things. 90% of the residents of bakhmut left the city. it is very difficult to live in the city. some of those who remained in the end can't stand it like angelina . every day somehow the last is scary , the atmosphere is psychologically depressing, i want to leave
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because there is nothing to do here, forgive me, but i just want to wash three days ago, as a result of artillery work, the apartment in which angelina lived was damaged windows this is the kitchen there is a bedroom with a big bed, there is glass everywhere and the wall inside completely collapsed from the right side of the shock wave. i even limped from the impact . this impact convinced angelina and her boyfriend maksym to evacuate from bakhmut. a month and a half ago, the woman was already forced to leave her parents' residence. this is my house. the house was
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hit by a projectile and he collapsed, residents died fortunately, angelina and the whole family was not at home then, that's why they all survived, people died under the rubble, corpses were already being pulled out, then the fireman died. i'm sorry, it's very hard, i want to cry, most of my relatives we left the city and i also want to, but my father doesn't want to he supports russia, we just have different views i'm a patriot at home, it's not customary to talk about it in this russian-speaking region, the conflict also united families into those who support ukraine and those who believes in russia, angelina said that her father is a man of deep faith, sunday service in the main church of the russian orthodox church in nadia, to meet him, the service
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is held in the crypt, alexander, angelina's father, alexander, together with his two sons , are truly present. i wish you all a strong healthy souls, salvation, god's help, and god grant that the lord preserve us all, that we remain alive and healthy, may the lord support my dear labor week, lord, he was there to talk with us at his home, their house is in the middle of the battlefield, here it is, a projectile flew here, and the window blew out we were very lucky, most of the shrapnel went there, we were lucky that it
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exploded in this direction, oleksandr and his sons adapted to life under constant shelling and now they certainly are. now we are used to it, at first we couldn't sleep at night it was very scary, the house was shaking, the floor literally shook like jelly, the war divided this family into three parts, oleksandr's wife fled to russia with her grandson, angelina wants to go west to her pro-ukrainian brother, and oleksandr together with his two sons decided not to go anywhere ukraine i i believe that ukraine, if you want to call it that, it is one country with russia and belarus, it is a single people. like a tree with different branches but with one root, the hetman is a painful question
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. i think that she herself does not really want to be with us no one to see you from here. she didn't drive her out of her own free will because she didn't share our way of life. she wanted freedom in the worst sense of the word. inside ten, her ukrainian soldiers are strengthening their positions in the middle of the city with trenches. if you want to live, you will dig the deeper you hide. the more you have chances of survival and new, these are fresh trenches, we are finishing them, we are making trenches. we have good firing positions in case the russians approach from this side
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, fighting continues in the eastern part of the city. ukraine ukrainian the military says that they recaptured several neighborhoods by pushing back russian soldiers and wagnerites, they are either under some kind of drug or completely brainwashed, they don't seem to climb and climb, they are really like those orcs orgs, one situation is difficult, they climb like cockroaches, we neutralize them, and they climb again and again we have a lot of casualties, a lot of wounded fighters, the ukrainian side does not publish the exact number of casualties, but through bakhmut

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