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fighting continues in the eastern part of the city ukraine, the ukrainian military says that they have recaptured several neighborhoods, pushing back russian soldiers and wagnerites, they are either under some kind of drug or they do n't seem to care at all. and they are climbing again we have many casualties, many wounded fighters, the ukrainian side does not publish the exact number of casualties, but convoys with wounded are constantly going through bakhmut
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soldiers to military hospitals, and before your finger, right clicks, too, оброботы per liter , wake up 250 ketamine a while ago есть есть 5 ambulances arrived in an hour, we were told that only this hospital receives about 100 wounded soldiers every day yes yes all is kept here myself do all the same vyletela milotila a mine tore my leg. that's
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all that can be added. how am i feeling? i 'm fine. my leg hurts, but everything's fine. it's mine with you, and everything was fine. everything was fine, and then the shelling began. it became more intense. and everyone hid in the trenches in i felt a very sharp pain and realized that it was a splinter. the pain was very sharp. i started to move my fingers. i heard a crunch and realized what a child the bone was inside in the bahmut. heavy fighting is going on right now, it's real hell. next moving next morning angelina and maxim are ready to leave the city, we met them in the basement, where they had already packed
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things. i am glad that i am leaving the war zone, but i am sad to leave my hometown. i hope that when i return here, volunteers will pick up those who want to evacuate from the frontline cities and take them by minibus to where it is safe today angelina and maksim are the only ones who leave sometimes we take two people sometimes 15 depending on what day the lack of communication is a real problem so we just appear here with a certain regularity to pick up people who managed to contact us it's very difficult to get in touch, i really don't want to go, but there's no work here, there's no money, we're always cold and hungry, i want to
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live, not survive, the next stop is the city of dnipro, 260 km to the west, where anglina and maxim will be forced to start a new life in waiting for peace to return to bakhmut, and not to imagine that the universities are on fire on the way out of the city, which was hit by another rocket , let's listen to people suffering from rheumatism and arthritis . helps to eliminate pain and has an anti-inflammatory effect my golds i have everything ready, ask at the pharmacies we wish you health
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and the pharmacy of your family we defend it we ukrainians from different regions fight and pray we volunteer and save we communicate we work today we once again have to return the torn off parts of a united ukraine together and together we will win on the day of sobornost us weltrum battery stations are designed specifically for military needs, sealed , shockproof, work in difficult weather conditions in this stations will significantly increase the combat capacity of our defenders, the espresso tv channel, together with the forpo tua charity fund, launched a new fundraiser for the purchase of powerful portable battery stations
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with solar panels for our soldiers , we will transfer the first five stations to the 406th separate artillery brigade named after general oleksiy almazov, join the gathering, let's bring victory together, glory to ukraine and continue our broadcast from 16:15 on the espresso clock, i'm with you yehor checherinda and also viktor shlinchak, head of the board of the institute of world politics, mr. viktor good day. congratulations, mr. igor, i'm glad to see you. you look just like agent james bond. you look good. have a rest after the new year's holidays, mr. viktor. well, let's start right from the answer to the intelligence topic that yesterday became relevant simply for the entire information space of ukraine - it is about the state purchases of the ministry of defense of food in the amount of
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more than 14 billion. product positions, potatoes, for example, there are uah 22 per kilo, although they are in the store there for less than 10 , eggs cost uah 17 per piece or uah 170 per dozen, although they are now in the store. please, uah 60 each, and this is already the retail price wholesale, so to speak, the price is bought by the group , it is bought there for 14 billion, and the purchase took place yesterday and the day before yesterday - this was reported by our colleagues from the edition of the mirror of the week zn.ua internet, their version appeared today, and the answer has already appeared directly from the ministry of defense of ukraine on their they wrote the following information to the official website. well, initially, the priority of the ministry of
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defense was and remains the organization of high- quality uninterrupted food for servicemen, including in the combat zone, for this the ministry in according to the procedure established by law, the procurement of relevant services is carried out, and then information about the content of the procurement of food services, which has become widespread in the public space , is distributed with signs of intentional and misleading. defense minister reznikov yesterday personally addressed the head of the parliamentary committee on national security, defense and intelligence, oleksandr zavitnevich, with a request urgently hold a meeting of the committee and listen to comprehensive information regarding the order of circumstances and the results of the procurement of services food for military personnel for the 23rd year with the participation of representatives of the nabu yes, well , in advance i heard that it is possible even on monday, tomorrow this committee meeting will take place well, although i doubt that so soon, but what do you think about this in this regard? did you like
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the answer of the ministry of defense and whether do you trust the facts published by our colleagues from the mirror of the week publication, please, my position is very clear, first, to steal during the war is immoral, second, to prevent it from happening in public procurement, it must be carried out now absolutely to transparently return parliamentary control over procurement, because until now there is no public control, neither civil, public, nor the verkhovna rada, and accordingly, i believe that this is now working to the detriment of ukraine, not to the advantage, and finally, the third for the government . - be careful with any decisions, because a lot of decisions may turn out to contain corruption links, this applies not only to
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the ministry of defense, it also applies to other ministries that carry out procurement now in bypassing the prozoro system, we know that it has been pushed back now during martial law in order to allegedly make a decision faster but nevertheless, this means that any officials now have more responsibility for the decision they make, mr. victor, you just know two events literally well they coincided on the same day. yes, the appearance of this information about eggs, 170 uah each , and that is a huge amount, well, 14 billion uah, 14 well, this is huge, huge money, yes . he is in the ministry of community development of the territory of the infrastructure of ukraine. and yes, lozynsky very quickly, today the information is all about him, he was released, and then
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we will sort out the investigation. he is leading. let them decide whether he is guilty or not, but he is no longer in the ministry of defense. the commission is engaged in manipulation . no one said that these are the eyes of this document that was made public, which we just said, so far, it is a fake . it is not true. they are not. ministries, you don't think so about the alleged corruption in various ministries, the first thing that the expert journalists wanted to hear today is whether this document is true and we did not hear it . where the feet lead, this document was signed by whoever signed it and, accordingly, those involved in such possible abuses should be
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held accountable. unfortunately, the ministry of defense has not yet provided this information and i really don't have enough information to comment on it, that is, i only lack this contract, because everyone must understand that there is a lot of competition for the ministry of defense supplies, i will say frankly that up to the point that some competitors order, including paid ones articles against other competitors, and what we witnessed last year, but then it did not reach such a large audience, and they, as it were, decided relations between themselves there, while directly the leadership of the ministry defense did not stick and between ukraine now it is
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quite such a serious story considering the fact that a large part of our state budget is filled with grants and international aid if our international partners are not sure that the funds are purposefully used for the needs that ukraine has and they they can simply stop international aid at one moment and because of how i insist that the people who make decisions now should first of all be friends with the head because it depends on it actually no only their own history. and the history of ukraine, well, let me remind you that in general, the agreement was concluded for the purchase of these products on december 23 last year, and the value of the agreement was 13 billion 160 million uah , which is a huge sum, so i hope that
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this story will put an end to it. that the prices were really inflated, although some experts viktor, they say that well, it is possible that every year, a year ago, they kept a reserve. and how much they eggs will cost at the end of the 23rd year, we don't know, so let's put uah 170 for a dozen. i can add more here. that i managed to make out in the morning what is written, what kind of kilogram of eggs is this, that is, it is for twenty , and not for e, for a dozen, because of that type, the journalists miscalculated, this is the interpretation of the ministry of defense . i want to comment on the eggs now, in this case, you have to comment first of all, then then the potatoes 22 no, it's not for a kilogram, but for a dozen potatoes well, if by this logic you and what are they, what size are they? nobody knows, i also agree with you
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it looks a little funny. okay, let's go to other topics. well, no less serious, because this topic is also very serious, because theft in wartime. well, surely it should be punished in some other way than simply according to the norms of the ukrainian criminal code, which was written in peacetime, because, well, everyone a thief in the army is the first criminal. let's move on to other topics. the bilinket is ready. our colleagues from this respectable organization, which systematizes, investigates, takes information from open sources, further analyzes and draws conclusions, so they made conclusions about that. that the main wagnerian is his name, i always call him parfen rogozhin, do you remember from dostoevsky idiot or yevgeny or yevgeny prigozhin seeks real power and they ask the question will prigozhin organize a coup in russia or will he succeed what do you
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think about the appearance of this character someone says the opposite that this is a creature of putin himself in order to demonstrate against the background of this yevgeny prigozhina to western partners and all of russia that this is how he is, you wouldn't sit like this, an fsb officer, a person who read books there, who went to europe, they know him there are monarchs and all the others, but here is a real convict who created an army of convicts, and if not me, then this army and this convict will come to power. yevgeny prigozhin is preparing a real can prepare a real from the mutiny in the russian government regarding change i am asking literally now the online publication glavkom, to which he is involved, has published an interview with the investigator grozhov who actually this thesis
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about prigozhin and proclaimed what comes to the ambitions have grown, this is understandable, but i here for by some signs, i agree with grozhov that putin obviously began to understand the power of prigozhin's army, which according to various estimates now has 50 plus thousand men, and this means that it is quite a magnificent force that cannot be ignored and, accordingly, when this force began to demonstrate all your ambitions are obvious and this reverse coup took place when it came to such management of some operations in the east of our
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country was withdrawn from they say that sometimes it gets to the point that members of wagner go on the attack, but they are no longer covered by the artillery, which is accountable to the ministry of defense. this so far indicates an obvious conflict between the ministry of defense of the russian federation and the wagner committee, and i think that this indicates that putin is simply trying to create parallel absolute structures that operate and that he wants each of them to win his loyalty in such a competition. by the way, this applies not only to what is happening there.
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the same thing happens in other directions, for example, bears travel and agree on the supply of weapons, as was the case in china, for example, this is the creation of a virtually parallel track with that structure that is officially engaged in the supply of weapons in russia, that is, putin is starting to create some parallel things that can is setting them the same tasks and see who is better able to cope with these things or can not pretend to be the leadership of the russian federation, well, you know. in the current conditions, it is possible in russia can be anything, really beautiful, there is an opportunity to come to the kremlin one day and seize power, and it will be like this. well, as has already
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happened in the local kchp. the problem is that prigoshena is not perceived as a person who can claim power in the russian army and and gerasim repeatedly proved that because of this there will be a conflict of interests and perhaps based on this conflict we will have a resolution exactly when these two these two groups will start a war for survival, but is putin himself afraid of prigozhina is this a completely controlled figure? i think that at the moment it is still a controlled figure. i don't think that prigozhin is playing a full-fledged game on his own , because a lot depends on supplies, logistics, money, in the end, because this army is it necessary to feed
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vyk with something, that's why i think that so far putin does not consider it to be the number one threat in order to respond to it. one of the biggest problems that russia may face is the collapse of the russian federation or the outflow of certain territories in the event that this decision-making center is weakened and for them it is really a big challenge. i think that a lot of attention will be focused on this now in order to suppress any nationalist and national interests of those republics that have declared this before or will probably declare as much as possible in the near future viktor well, let's move from the russian conflict between the russian security forces to the conflict between the security forces in ukrainian, what actually unfolded, well,
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these are the backgrounds. during the last week, therefore , banker denis kireev, a participant in the ukrainian-russian negotiations, who was liquidated as a russian spy in the spring. he was a full-time employee of the gurmo main intelligence directorate of the ministry of defense. budanov said the following, was kyiv a russian spy, definitely no, he was not. this is probably the only thing i will comment on, i share the opinion and believe the facts that mr. kireev was killed in a sbu car when they, i.e. the sbu employees conducted the event regarding this person, this fact is recorded in the case file, there is an investigation, everything else is being investigated by the dbr, i have no right to comment on this information, the fact that he was killed by all the employees of the athovtsi is a fact, budanov said. well, according to him, the sbu employees invited kyiv to the central building of the special services, however, a few blocks from this building, the facts are that a person was killed who went to
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the sbu building 200 m away at the invitation of the sbu. a little further than this building and the corpse is then thrown out into the street. here are all the facts, everything bohdan told a couple of victors. well, this is a huge conflict. well, the conflict is a scandal. it seems to me that the employee was brutally killed by the sbu employees just under the walls of the sbu building in the center of kyiv, what actually happened and not an ordinary person, but a person who went to the first talks with the russians regarding the end of the war. it was back in march. your comment on what is happening, please, you know , i can't publish much on the air right now information that i have, because it has not yet been fully verified, i will only say what is true. it turns out that kireya was killed precisely by sbu employees who gave the order for this to happen. it really should be
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investigated by the investigation, i can say, well, if assumption that it was possible that it was an excess of the executor . but at the same time, well, this is quite a serious story that can infect the positions of the sbu, especially in the sense that now we do not have a full-fledged head at the moment hm. that is, we have a head of the e-e special service, only he is now on call the acting head, that is, the kid, has not yet been appointed to the post of full head of the sbu, and it is somehow being delayed, it was supposed to be in december, as far as i know, but what has been developed? by the way, many personnel decisions have not been made, which are discussed in the volume i wrote to budanov, he says that he personally persuaded kireev to go to those
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negotiations in the gomel region, and the personnel of all these negotiations, we saw what we know, mr. viktor, about the very person of this person. well, i personally do not believe that it was ukrainian intelligence, well, this is my personal point of view, what do we know about the murdered denys kiriev himself? -e he was very surprised when he saw on the tv screens how you and i were with this person at the negotiations, and i do not rule out that the leadership of the sbu itself gave the instruction to check who this person is and how he got to these negotiations, so far i can bet on this three dots because in
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i have a last name, which people were given instructions, but i can't talk about it now publicly well, let's say so, this is a person from the banking sector, that's how you can say about him. i cut him like this. that is, he is a financier . last year there were several materials about this ambiguous personality and there were even big conflicts when it was said that kyiv ordered an entire media company for another person who was close to mr. firtash and provided opportunities to run for election deputies in the 19th year, well, that is, this is quite an extraordinary personality in financial circles, and legends are made about her, that is, the person was quite a knowledgeable person, she claimed to be the head of one of the state banks in the
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20th year, but this did not happen, as he got to the sbu or later to the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense i do not know, but i understand that now he wants justice, he wants to really investigate this case and it seems that he will see this case through to the end despite the fact that now, again, according to my information, they began to slow down this case, and that is why he came out with these theses in the public arena. well, i will say that he did not even apply, he was there and was in oschadbank, but not the chairman, but the first deputy chairman of oschadbank, and later andrii the magnificent chairman of oschadbank well, he accused pereyev of financial abuse and even fraud. well, he was called and called, well , he is no longer the person of andrii
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petrovich klyuyev. viktor, there was some connection with mr. andriy petrovich klyuyev. we remember the first vice-premier of the government of the days , that is, the person cooperated there, i understand that with many politicians, not only skleev, just now the name of klyuev was pulled out there to explain some kind of connection is it possible that this connection of kireev with i'm sorry about the development of the russian choir and whether there are any kireevs, now they even start talking about whether kireev is or was not a double agent. i have this question. sorry, there is no answer, but mr. budanov claims that he was definitely not a double agent. well and some mass media they claim that he was a double agent and even had a good pseudo in the russian special services. well, let's hope that this story will not be covered up. well, if it really is a
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real murder. bear responsibility for such deprivation of human life well, let it in the conditions of wartime but in the center of kyiv probably responsibility but this is my personal point of view maybe i am wrong thank you viktor shlyunchak for participating in our program manager board of the institute of world politics thank you , viktor well, we still have a lot of information, sorry, i have a lot of information here. who will be with us now? andriy borovyk, executive director of transparency international ukraine. good day. good day, mr. andriy. well , we touched on the topic of corruption a little bit, today we brought $400,000 in general, the deputy head of the ministry of the region, who is acting as the head of the ministry, the day before, why was he
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slapped? i had to look at this money received yesterday and today it was already reported in the cabinet that he was fired. well, why was this money paid for, it seems, for the purchase of generators that the ministry was supposed to make this purchase ? what do you know about this case ? the maximum that is known is from the fact that the anti-corruption prosecutor's office and the national anti-corruption bureau are communicating about it, it's actually emotional. yes , you can say that you're sorry for stealing from generators in a country that has certain energy challenges. well, that's already the bottom, yes. on the other hand, from a positive point of view, i am pleased that our anti-corruption infrastructure is there
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