no, i was once there in marbella. true, in march, on new year's day, not on new year's day. it's very beautiful there, after all, palm trees grow, pink marble , hotels, golf courses, these cars drive electric cars that bring in these golfers of a respectable age, spaniards, europeans, walk there with these golf clubs, you they were not there with oleksiy simonenko, perhaps also in this car of hryhoriy kozlovsky, who was taking the deputy prosecutor general to poland , probably on the plane and escorted him back when crossing the border, or did you know this the story, well, god had mercy on feta christmas here in the circle of ukrainians in ukraine, specifically in the city of kyiv. so, how are the golf courses and so on , are they difficult in general? do you think that the prosecutor general should react or not to

similar vacations to similar friendships with well-known businessmen of the regional bottling , well, there should definitely be this action because , uh, hundreds of thousands of our defenders spent holidays in the trenches, in battles, protecting ukraine, millions of people worked honestly at their workplaces, supported the rear, uh, volunteers they didn't relax either, but at this time some high-ranking officials allow themselves well, it's just that, well, it doesn't fit in their heads as much as possible in such a difficult time during the war. that's how they relax . to explain how one should behave

during the line, and some elementary and ethical norms. moreover, pay attention. he is not the only one like that, a bunch of judges, prosecutors of lower rank went, or high-ranking officials closer to the government from the regional administrations. how about one lady who is the deputy of the zaporizhia regional administration at this time on instagram, a selfie showed us how she is having a good rest in thailand and she is the deputy head of the military-civilian administration, yes, this is my favorite character of the ukrainian government, her name is zlata nekrasova, she is the deputy head she is undergoing a criminal case related to mass embezzlement, she was released, well, good people

should have a good rest, for this they need money, well, where to get money, the salary is quite small, the deputy head oda na one flight to thailand requires much more money, of course the question of finding a material base begins here, so to speak, dasha was found, and she is responsible for the distribution of humanitarian aid there, and even in the summer, even before the start of these searches, humanitarian aid was distributed to mr. andrii, on which was written collected there and distributed with help, and her last name was there, it was patched up, beauty, what did she do when the scandal was raised from zaporizhzhya from the spot, the scandal said, well, it wasn’t me who was involved, it was engaged in by some charitable foundation and so well that's why i have nothing to do with it, they just put a brochure with his surname with his surname and a portrait that

she is the one responsible and thank you . they were able to go abroad well, but everyone lives well there, there was also an adviser to the chairman on information policy, that is, i think so, everyone settled in zaporizhzhia, almost all administrations can to go to sunny thailand for 10 days or two weeks, that is again to poland, then a transfer, probably some businessmen from lviv accompany them there in their cars, who have conditions there, the business of the kharkiv border service showed itself in paris, the date paris is closer, it is the soul let's smoothly transfer to the ministry of defense, mr. andriy, a contract for the amount of 13 billion for 13.160 million

in my opinion 13.2, well, let's say billions of hryvnias, a huge amount. assets of companies, this firm has a charter capital in the amount of uah 1,000 in total, well , the mirror of the week reports about it in the 21st year, the tax service canceled the vat payer certificate of the company assets due to the lack of supplies and failure to submit a declaration. that is, the company was not involved in anything at all, now its 13.2 billion uah fell off the budget unexpectedly well, what is there in this agreement for the supply of products for the needs of the ministry of defense of the military units of sumy, kyiv, zhytomyr, chernihiv , cherkasy regions and our colleagues dzerkalo last week they published a document that talks about the prices of various types of products, in particular eggs. the ministry of defense bought the entire company with the authorized

capital of uah 1,000, uah 17 per piece, uah 170 per dozen, when the price was not sold separately. journalists there turned out to be uah 7 per piece, 80 for a dozen, this one is sold at retail, as well as potatoes there at 22 uah per kilogram, compared to 8-9 in the store, retail chicken thigh is 120 uah per kilogram, when it is rare, 80 uah. first impression give us the first impression when you read it , what was yours, then i will read the answer of the ministry of defense. well, i thought that during the war, it could be . everything is for the front, everything is for victory. and we see that they are even

abusing supplies for the army, and there is the director of the supply department. corruption in the supply of military ammunition has now come to light in terms of supplies and food, and pay attention if the prices are higher than the average market there and in such places as in supermarkets by two or three times for some items, what does this mean that they probably planned half of those 13 billion hryvnias for kick back, spray like that and just stupidly steal them into the army to steal from the people of ukraine, well, you know, hmm, the conclusion is that i want our high-ranking officials in the government to finally

do what, uh, during the war for corruption , officials for looting need to be tough punishment according to the laws of wartime, well, how much can we liberalize with them there, uh, with these officials, already uh, of the state procurement department of the ministry of defense, he has a very famous first and last name, his last name is khmelnytskyi, and his name is bohdan, you can't believe it, that's what i'm opening bohdan khmelnytskyi and i just open the news feed, e-e, it turns over, look, i open it on august 31. last year, the message from the message is given to the national police, now i will open the director of the department of state procurement of the ministry of defense, bohdan khmelnytskyi

turned out to be one of the participants in the case of embezzlement of $580,000 of the ministry's funds during the purchase of military ammunition. aha interlocutors of ukrainian pravda told law enforcement agencies about this. according to the interlocutor, the police recently searched khmelnytskyi 's place of residence. one source found money in the sofa, another interlocutor reported that the case concerns contracts signed by khmelnytsky back in march for a total of 4 billion well, then four. now 13 is a much larger amount, but i did not find official confirmation of these and this information about the searches in august. that is, well, it was probably managed in a certain way, somehow. did you talk about the case of which year or do i mean the systems on the matter of theft on the day of purchases, this particular

case for half a million dollars, we meant that this is not the first criminal case concerning this official. okay, what to do and not what to do, i will tell you, as a rule , the reaction of the ministry, the reaction is my favorite topic reaction of the authorities so they wrote a statement today, well, they distributed a comment, it is called regarding the procurement of food services for military personnel on the website of the ministry , and without a signature at all. who made this comment, well, if it is a comment, then someone is a commenter, yes, there is no commenter. unfortunately, it is possible that the press the service is ok, we behave, the priority of the ministry of defense is and remains the organization of high-quality and uninterrupted food for servicemen , including in the combat zone for according to the procedure established by the law, the procurement of relevant services is carried out by the ministry. information about the content of the procurement of food services that has become widespread in the public - public space is for eggs for

eggs for 150 170 uah per dozen is distributed with signs of deliberate manipulation and misleading. yesterday , the minister personally addressed the head of the parliamentary committee on national security oleksandr zavitnevich, i don't even know that, sorry for my ignorance of your information, with a request to urgently hold a meeting of the committee and to hear comprehensive information about the order of circumstances and results of the procurement of catering services for employees in the 23rd year with the participation of representatives of the nabu and dbr of the ministry of defense prepares materials for the sbu in order to conduct an investigation into the spread of false information by the agency that harms the interests of defense in a special period, i.e. i will explain the ministry of defense appeals to the sbu for the purpose of investigating not the facts of price overcharging, but the facts of the spread of knowingly false information that harms the interests of defense in a special period. the question is mr. andrii, in the mirror of the week, who first

brought up this story, they reported and distributed a document in which this price was written in golden church slavonic letters in ukrainian letters, that is, the ministry of defense could simply say that the document is a fake document and that is why we are now contacting the sbu who created this fake document, they they do not say, that is, the fact of the existence of the reality of the authenticity of the document, they actually do not deny it, they say that we will explain at the committee and who spread it, now we will contact the sbu where the leak came from i understood the whole picture correctly, here is this document, here is the purchase of services there, the provision of services includes the provision of product sets well, and on and on, there are all the prices, that is, in principle, i was in the place of the ministry of defense and i would have said, excuse me, the document is fake. i said, do you remember, do you remember, sir

? on the tapes of melnychenko the braggart and everything and there would be no questions, they don’t say that, they say that we will contact the security service of ukraine and we will find journalists and the leak of information, how did it leak from our closed ministry, your comment on what is happening there and what can be found today, the sbu managed to read in the press that journalist who brought copies of these contracts for the supply of food to the army, he did not want public distribution because he understood that there would be a resonance and it could really be harmful in some way now that negotiations are underway with our international partners. this in various contracts asked them to start an investigation. and i understand that his appeals were simply ignored and then the mirror of the week dared to publish them because these are, well, flagrant facts of corruption if this

it will be confirmed all the more when during the war and what about supplies to the army and you know , i am surprised by the reaction of the same mr. reznikov, the minister of defense. views well, he should know how in such cases it is customary to do in the european countries of the european union, where do we want to go if such scandals occur within the ministries of the european departments? well, to begin with, he is a minister i would appoint an internal official investigation , i would suspend this bohdan khmelnytskyi official, who is the main one in this case, and during the official investigation, i would

personally contact the nabu in the dbr, and for some reason he is contacting the parliamentary committee, which does not have the right. the committee of the verkhovna rada does not exist the right to open criminal cases, to make any conclusions about corrupt officials, not to fire them, he can’t even fire them, that’s why he doesn’t need this, mr. varschikov, but i would advise him to contact the prosecutor’s office in nabu and the dbr so that they objectively investigate this case and whether the fact of corruption within the ministry is confirmed, they told us that it is really not true, that manipulation took place and so on, and so it somehow does not look convincing or will the convincing information from the meeting of the committee in monday us security and defense intelligence i understand that the meeting will be closed to journalists in general ms. bezugla said that it will be a closed

meeting and we remember this is the subject of a closed meeting of the parliamentary committee and on potatoes, eggs and potatoes - this is secret information. once upon a time, there was a miniature in the raiki . is on a war footing, this is also a committee meeting, look, i just opened it, i already have deputies only from the pro-government faction, and the deputies of the faction simply cannot even attend the meeting of this committee. i don't want it it was the same this time, i'm just sorry, i didn't understand, but now neither the parliament nor the committees show anything , nobody knows what's going on there, oleksandr oleksandr mykhailovych zavitnevich, this is the first time i've

heard that name, i swear. it turns out that he is the chairman of the committee on national security and defense and the intelligence man has a track record, but he himself graduated from the kirovohrad region, he graduated from the hetman kyiv state farm. and what did he do before he was elected ? now his wife nataliya zavitnevich manages the company, rents cars, rents equipment, goods fly, cast iron, steel, light non-ferrous metals, mechanical processing of metal products, wholesale trade in machines, equipment for the household industry and construction, and that's all. this is the entire track record of the chairman of the national security and defense committee, who is 49 years old. the relationship is not related to defense, there is no security,

non-professional education, well, in general, personnel policy during the war, i already understand that in peacetime , you can rely on amateurs during the war, you still have to somehow rely on professional people, it's just me, i've never seen this face on tv. maybe i don't watch tv much and i don't work on it much. in the last 27 years, he probably never once spoke from the rostrum of the verkhovna rada, such a deputy thank you, we hope that oleksandr mykhailovych zavitnevich is a worthy professional and will deal with this situation professionally, as well as the entire committee and meeting. i want to say that in a situation where high-profile corruption scandals are already happening every day maybe it's time for the supreme commander-in-chief to intervene and give an order to investigate officials objectively, even the

highest officials, whether from the government, whether from the president's office, but for the society to see this, you know today is the day of unity, but unity is destroyed when there is no trust and this trust is needed what was the unification at the beginning of the war should be renewed thank you well, i will also say that the old ukrainian fairy tale about the golden testicle in these circumstances of these new state procurements has acquired a new existential meaning, the golden testicles for the ukrainian troops andriy pavlovsky thank you for participating in our program political public figure former member of the verkhovna rada express questions about social policy and volodymyr omelchenko joins us director of programs of the razumkova center please hear us yes p volodymyr please tell me tomorrow seems to be tuesday next week that is, i know for sure that nkrekp will

find out who and how unfairly shuts off the light and oblenergo families are threatened with a fine, what is this about, volodymyr. how do you support this idea or not and why are they fair or fair this is what bribes are being brought there again to the oblenergo operator, who is sitting there on the buttons. this is this company. it has been brought or this is some district or some other. well, the condominiums are not turned off, but the prices are brought to them. how do you feel about this initiative? it is very difficult for me to comment here . something, since this issue is quite sensitive for people and in such a situation, which is now when many people feel a shortage of electrical energy in ukraine, there is such a huge energy poverty, then in principle fair distribution of electrical energy this is

very important especially during the war because uh justice it unites people when people feel injustice it on the contrary divides and it is bad enough during the war whether henry kp will be able to cope with this task well it's hard for me to say well, i think that there, as far as i looked there, the fines are not so big, they are applied to those to violators, in principle, for serious business, it is a small amount of money, so i think that somehow it will not affect, well, it will not affect the future situation, well, the only thing i would like to say is that, in principle, well, shutdowns depend primarily on the current situation in the energy complex of the country, on how

much power we have, how much power we have, not only on the production capacity, but also on the transmission of electric energy, of course that after 12 waves of shelling, these capacities are extremely limited in our country, we have a deficit in the energy system of at least 30%, and in addition, often on working days, priority is given priority is given to businesses, there is such a business and in general they never turn off, it is itself, first of all, large business, which means that sits on the power lines of ukrenergo, and i think that, first of all, there are distortions in the direction of a certain business. big means uh, that is, there is a certain injustice in relation to the population in relation to other enterprises

, because there are probably some businessmen of the level there are some equals yes, that is, this is also a problem well, i don’t think that the meeting of the ncrecp by the decision of kari kp of quality will solve the problem, and i think that everything will be equal, some certain distortions will occur. and your attitude to the initiative is already the initiative of the cabinet of ministers about the fact that those enterprises are those, well, in general, businessmen and maybe even private individuals can do it, i don’t know. if you are sitting at your own company, you don’t have outages at your company, and why then? well, there is such an injustice with regard to natural persons, whether natural persons can also take part in this. i concluded an agreement with a polish manufacturer there. my apartment is not being turned off or how it

works, please. i doubt that you will be able to sign an agreement . us and the import of electrical energy is not on such a large scale, it is approximately, so you understand, up to 300 to 300 mw in terms of power - this is about 3% no more than the total volume of consumption, which means that, for example , cooling there by 2°, celsius completely equalizes er, it means er, all these benefits that lead come from imports. although this is positive in principle, because it somewhat reduces the deficit, and in principle, there is such a scheme that if some company buys electricity

by import, for example, er, well, they bought it there there are 10 megawatts, yes, for the capacity. well, for example, i say, and that is, for some hours there, and simply for the amount of energy purchased, they do not cut off their electricity due to import. and if they exceed these volumes can turn them off and they will submit under the same schedules as other enterprises, this is the scheme, volodymyr, well , for natural persons, it is not provided for at all. yes, i understand. it can be positive for individuals that if it increases, the deficit for business decreases, or rather, the deficit for

business can decrease, and accordingly, for the population, because no, redistribution does not take place from business to that is, from population to business, that is, this can be an advantage, but again, what is this the volumes are quite meager, the volume is quite meager and they are simply insensitive, that is, whether there will be imports or not, the population will hardly feel it, some enterprises may feel it, but again, for business, it is uh, it is only for certain enterprises, because, well, two or three percent you yourself understand the possibilities of occupying the total volume of the electric energy market. this is not so much, although in principle i cannot criticize this resolution, it is positive and even in these conditions, even a drop in addition, electrical energy has a positive effect on the energy balance, not the energy

balance, therefore, in principle, i believe that this resolution on the import of electrical energy is positive, but it will not radically solve the situation. i will simply explain why i am asking about the physical p they don't transfer the house there to the res. they pay the developer, well , this is our practice. people pay the developer for five years until the developer is already there on the site. all the work has not been finished, then he already transfers it to the res. because that's how he is at it. we i understand. something makes money. and here they buy a residential building with electric stoves from a developer. they are big with 16 floors. you know how much . uah 10 per kw, uah 10 per kilowatt. people pay the developer for light. so they in poland would be happy to buy eight to nine of their own there. yes, and others always turn it off because there is light for two hours. 6 so they would pay 10 hryvnias to the poles and receive this light. well, i draw such a scheme, of course, it is unrealistic, but there is a question, let's talk about other topics, look, i'm opening

i am opening a new initiative from the parliament. it means that they are proposing e. they are proposing to write off debts for communal services during hostilities for those territories where active hostilities are taking place. bill 8367 when amending the law of ukraine on debt restructuring. amendments to the law on the restructuring of the prohibition, in particular , it is envisaged to write off the prohibition of the population for services for the management of an apartment building for the supply and distribution of natural gas for the needs of household consumers, electricity supply, distribution, as well as the supply of thermal energy, hot water to centralized water supply, central drainage, in addition, it is proposed to write off public debts for household waste management services, how do they behave from this history ? on the territory of the kyiv sumy

chernihiv kharkiv regions or for those people retroactively can it be written off is it only for those who are currently fighting actions, tell us about this attitude towards such people in general, that there really is such a problem here. we are here with you all this procedure of determining where we were and where we were not, and therefore we will not determine combat actions. yes, this should be done by a powerful team and the ministry of energy and other structures of the ministry of social policy in first of all, which identified the victims and the regions so that the appropriate mechanisms were drawn up, this definitely needs to be done because really, really, people have suffered, people have lost everything, it means that they simply even if there are points and they wanted to pay something but they won't be able to, and that's why the state should intervene here to compensate him in some way

through this mechanism or another mechanism. another question. what is it that they want to do again? and that's how i understand it, due to the write-off of these debts at the expense of the energetics themselves. yes, and not at the expense of state funds at the expense of energy companies and what does this mean for today and yes for us that all the others it means lower prices for all ends all the others will pay this difference from their tariffs of course and no even worse even worse if it were so, then half the trouble would be much worse because today, uh, practically all energy campaigns are in uh, huge debts, they have huge debts, that is, in fact, energy in our country is financed and subsidized by this economy, and the entire population has no funds for recovery absolutely that is it