but the story of the pochaiv lavra is a bit more complicated, because during its heyday this lavra belonged to the greek-catholic church before the basilians . recently , only one orthodox cathedral has appeared, which was already built by the ukrainian orthodox church. well, it is territorial, although it has completely independent entrances and detours . greek-catholics and orthodox, it will certainly be difficult to create such conditions that the pochaiv lavra would become, you know, a training ground for economic understanding and

economic co-service between greek-catholics and orthodox . and only for the right of the christian churches, which trace their origins back to the 10th century, and such are the orthodox and greek-catholic churches, are crystallized as the property of the entire ukrainian people. still returning to the ban of the russian church, he reads our website e-e advertises it, look at the status and read it, he reports that two days ago another alternative was registered in the parliament well, not an alternative, but a government bill about the powerful about the ban of the uoc mp well, the representative of the president of the government said in the parliament, taras melnychuk, the draft law is aimed at ensuring spiritual independence, preventing splits in society on

religious grounds, promoting the consolidation of ukrainian society and protecting of national interests, said mr. taras, what are the opposition representatives for? oleksiy goncharenko, in particular, said that of course it is not bad, but our colleagues and i had a draft law on the prohibition of pcmp and the termination of lease agreements for the use of laurels in the council for a long time . to pass the previous ones he commented well more bills good bills good different when they can finally be passed although some or some hybrid is created from two what do you think this is a very difficult question regarding the ban churches, let's still approach this issue in a wise way. you understand that even if a law banning the church is passed, the church will not cease to exist and will simply change its status. it can simply go to

let's say its underground existence or services will continue faithfully, it will still not go anywhere. i think that the main purpose of these projects is simply - simply, what fate awaits this church in the event well, you have to make conscious decisions about what belongs in time war to the church, which maintains its canonical organizational connection with the aggressor country, for ukrainians today it is simply impossible , it is beyond the scope of everything to find a non-rational perception. the fate of their church, what is their fate, what to do in this situation, what should the project be based on

, because now the church is pro-ukrainian orthodox, there are already several projects regarding the future of this church, you need to make these decisions, you need to to fit into a specific context and not as if you already know in heaven and you are completely oblivious to the political, social, or military situation in which ukraine is now lyudmila filipovych was with us religion with us from doctor of philosophical sciences professor head of the department of philosophy and history of religion of the skovoroda institute of philosophy of the national academy of sciences professor of sciences marvin thank you and congratulations dmytro kapranova writer publisher publicist social activist blogger good day good day health, i congratulate everyone on the holiday, the cathedralness of ours, thank you all that we are all part of

the great cathedral ukraine, which we celebrate today dmitry, but i refused to continue the topic of the russian church lyudmila filipovych that the church will not go anywhere, there will still be a congregation even if the pochaiv lavra is selected there and the donetsk lavra, the sviatohirsk lavra is meant, which is located in donetsk region, but i doubt it, but you know, there have been cases in history there. dive christ that's what he did yes and where were they all and there were a huge huge number of so -called parishioners they also had in ukraine in the first place what do you think the expensive church will be absolutely correct analogy absolutely correct analogy because uoc mp - it is today a terrorist organization who is not believes look at the list of news where their fathers not only bless terrorists for terrorist attacks and where they store weapons in their churches where they become a base for militants

that's why everything is very simple if this organization terrorist, so what is the difference between them? someone will say what will happen next, we close it, people who want to believe in god without questions, you know, the point here is not that everyone terribly wants to obey this cyril of theirs. the point is that we have a church in the village and there is a father there and everything is completely different - there is none. our task is not so much to influence the parishioner as to influence this father so that he collects things and comes under the power because today the mafia is holding him back. let's call things by their names, he is being held back mafia ecclesiastical, what threats are there, including physically retaliating, because this is really a terrorist organization, which means the corresponding terrorist

methods . how can only a strong congregation protect the fathers who agree, and a strong congregation cannot be formed, because without an alternative church, it does not exist and they do not hold on to that, of course, the ideal is the recognition of the uoc mp, well, in a heap with the military forces of the russian federation, in a heap of ssb to recognize this circle of terrorist organization and accordingly ban it, and then the question will be the next one. to whom will they give their pennies there, meaning the local priests and where will they go to surrender? and i am absolutely sure that the absolute majority is all the same. they serve . this is a business for them. they live off people who believe . to god and carry them, well, you know who goes to church, mainly people who are between life and death, either there or back. either we give birth and we don't know what will happen next, or we die .

the electorate, yes, in this sense, people don't care who is standing over them, or everything was legal and the road to god was paved. the road to god is completely paved, so i don't see any big problems here, only no, we will scare ourselves . go to these voters we can't ban the party of regions and no matter how they go, get out exactly and the argument mr. dmytro well, let's move on to more pleasant news and anniversaries , indeed, zluka day and the 105th anniversary of the creation of the ukrainian people's republic, we congratulate everyone, why do you think then we don't have it was possible to create a state for 105 years, it is understandable, the intervention is understandable there, russia understood the eternal enemy well, but we still have to start with ourselves, what did not work out exactly in our opinion, oh, these are golden words, because today, in fact, we are with you, not even one of the bows

is celebrating today the day sobornost and sobornost zluka - these are slightly different things, more precisely, the sound is a part of this sobornost, because when we say sobornost, we must understand that sobornost is not a church procedure that stands and it is not some abstraction , sobornost is a principle when organizing form its members and together they are a force. well , we have all ukrainians together and are the ukrainian state, this is how it works, and this term is used by us and has been a symbol of the nicene faith since the times. organization of the church where all the parishioners all together form the body of christ on earth and this principle of the church where the church exists as long as there are parishioners as long as there is this structure and christ on earth similarly in ukraine ukraine is a cathedral state especially today ukraine is not a fenced territory fence ukraine is a collection of ukrainians,

a collection of people for whom ukraine is the most important thing for whom ukraine is in the heart in the smartphone on the internet in social networks and today when the state becomes above all an information entity when we want borders on the ground we don't want them they don't disappear but they go into the background because today, if you move to germany or france, you will most likely not see any post and no verification. but nevertheless, you will find yourself in the information space, so today the state is becoming an information creation and it is this principle of sobornost which seemed to be just a beautiful and ancient principle, today it becomes more relevant than ever because if we create ukraine, we start to create it from ourselves. i made ukraine at home. to his ukraine he made his social networks ukraine and then we are all together according to the cathedral principle, how is it not

strange ? history today it repeats itself, only then we were not given heimersov, today they are given and from the point of view of people's awareness and self-awareness of the fact that such a history, the people were ahead then, the elites were behind, that is, the people already wanted independence, and our central rada was lagging behind and could not give them what the people want back then, the chieftains of kholodny yar were engaged in defending ukraine in every village, and the elites, unfortunately, were unable to lead them. today, you and i are in exactly the same situation, the difference is that then we failed to convince europe that ukraine deserves a separate state, and accordingly, poland got independence from european hands, let's not forget about it, poles got independence from european hands, but we didn't get independence from european hands then

, today and after 100 years, europe has done work on mistakes, paid for it with hundreds of millions of lives and today she is finally on our side, our merit lies in the fact that we did not die during this time, why, despite the fact that we make mistakes, we vote the hell way we believe in populism there and so on but nevertheless we we survived, we survived, we survived as a nation . today, we demonstrate this desire to create a place to rule on our land, that is, to live with our own mind on our land, to have our own state, that is, one of the signs by which a bucket at one time determined the existence of a nation - this is when people gathered and want to take power into one's own hands, here is the ukrainian nation, which, judging by this principle, was formed during khmelnytskyi's time, then we have not lost it today, even when the high-mars came to the rescue. well, here we can already boldly declare that ukraine will be therefore, it was definitely not a defeat, but it

was a postponed, postponed event, because we do not forget that in the interval between us and 100 years ago, there was also the upa, which also proclaimed its state in the soviet union, remember. it was actually an underground state, it had all signs of a successful state even in the presence of money and the legislative power was there and the judicial power was there and the executive power was there and the army was there. that is, it was an underground state. that is , all this time we were engaged in creating a ukrainian state according to the same council principle. that is, where i am there and ukraine. i carry it with me in my soul. i am a ukrainian and i am a part of ukraine, and even if i move to burkinov faza tomorrow, ukraine will be present in my person, and there, of course, we do not claim the land of burkan faza, but i am a ukrainian is a part of ukraine and i create it create it

today and thanks to this information society we today allows us to keep in touch across continents across times and seas today we can finally do what god did not give us the meaning of geography well, geography is bad we have we are surrounded by the empire from all sides, but today we can compensate for it thanks to these strong communication parameters, we see a video with petlyura, and on this archival video, i used to like to remember on this day when i read his memoirs and he wrote there about these centuries-old liberation contests, and he said the following sad thing, he wrote that we often fought under the well, almost complete differentiation of the local population, which means that the local population did not matter to him who would win in this war, in fact, the national for liberation and russia came, he did n't care anyway russia won in the country well , ukraine once was direct, now you think

the situation will not be repeated, let's say on well on those in our eastern territories when the local population we are there watching this material ot franspresso we saw our colleagues where in bakhmut, the whole family is divided, the father and two boys are actually for russia, and their daughter is for ukraine, and the father and the boys remain there under fire, and the daughter goes with her fiancé to the dnipro or somewhere safer, now there is no repeat of this situation in your opinion. unfortunately, it is a shame to repeat it. well, you know. we talked with our colleagues, the isosomes, who fought right there near gulyaipol, and now they are there near bakhmut , and they confirm what you say, that of course there are a lot of people, a lot of population , all the same, but this is not a unique situation, i doubt that there have ever been times in the history of wars where the earth literally burned under our feet, always in any society there are these

ugly moods that i don't care about and what's the difference, we'll change the portrait and we'll continue to live this is as korchynskyi wrote. what difference does it make which flag is on the tower of this if i live here ? what difference does it make which flag the knights raised on the top of the castle? this is an absolutely normal situation for any war, but our advantage is that we have a critical mass of people who are it's not a matter of fearing anyone. the point is that the number of people who are not seen and those who are unfortunately under the long-term influence of russian information and here we must name the people who ensured this. and this is akhmetov in the first place, and this is kolesnikova, this is these scumbags, the so-called oligarchs, who built the russian peace there, built it deliberately for many years, they profited from the contradictions. they could always oppose something in the kyiv authorities so that it would give them the opportunity to rake in

money and continue. our material and human ones, we do not forget that there are traces of the hands of our current citizens, our current oligarchs, who continue to be called the ukrainian economy, of course they are on this lost a lot, but i don't think they drew a conclusion. that is, this is the land, the land in our country is under constant foreign influence. well, why be surprised that it is so there, dmytro, well, in a very short way. look, we are showing this video. this is victory avenue. when i watch it, how is it? the state auto inspection on january 22, 1990 allowed people to get out right in the middle of this busy highway, well, it’s not, it’s not this video, this is peremogy avenue. yes, people are standing and they are not picked up at the auto garage, this was also such a sign of ukrainian democracy even then in january of 1990 year, but at the beginning of victory avenue, there at

the end of victory square, i still do n't know why still in victory dial from lithuanian historical us, but there is a monument to mykola shchorsu, who fought against the same republic of the ukrainian people, the anniversary of which we celebrate today and it already stands in what year of the russian invasion, the ninth or the eighth, and there is no council for that, in short 20 seconds, you have a council for this, it seems, already in the kyiv government, and the commission has decided that it is needed to clean up. that is, there is a critical mass of intelligent people. we hope of course . this cannot be a crime and this crime will be stopped. thank you. well, i have a slightly different opinion. i believe that only direct action can change the situation, since we can count on the kyiv authorities. i don't know how many years have passed. thank you, dmytro kapranov, writer, publisher , publicist, public figure, and blogger. next, taras kremin, the commissioner

for the protection of the state language, welcomes you, sir. taras glory to ukraine death to the enemies for now we will move on to the condition a little later, let's be brief on each p taras well, when the horse monument will be removed from the center of kyiv, the monument to the horse of the man and who fought against our national state, please well, i think of such monuments and such horses there are extremely many in ukraine, but they all remain markers of former eras, which we call criminal totalitarians. i think that the question here is also for the local authorities, which should be the real driving force behind such initiatives to rename the street. this is good . but cleaning the city of kyiv from the remnants of the soviet past is one of the key and important tasks, yes, the highway, but if we move further along peremogy avenue, there is a tank t-34 soviet soldiers to the liberators how do you treat it and a whole gallery of cities of heroes of the soviet union should be us because it is, well, because it is a symbol of the

soviet totalitarian era, the t-34 tank, exactly. and what do you think you know? i would like to return to the speech of your previous guest, kapranov from mykolaiv oblast, just like me, they are from ochakov, and they were among the first and their father was among the first to create the people's movement of ukraine in the mykolaiv region. and actually today, if we talk about the south, then not strictly in ochakov, and the remnants of cement related to potemkin or the fouls of mykolaiv absolutely do not save the south from shelling and those ghouls that we see or not every day, literally a week ago, you saw what happened in ochakov when an enemy artillery shell hit a ship mine, and this is really no less than 70% of the destruction of the central part of the city, this applies to the city of mykolaiv, which was destroyed, including the school premises of the regional council and so on, we must connect all this with each other and the language we use to communicate and the monuments that, unfortunately, still remain on our streets well, in the end, the scale of those

destructions that continue to increase in geometric progression, therefore there can be no compromises we must use this moment in order to really return to ukraine her real face in ukrainian is the closest then let's go to your profile and to your what do you do? kyiv digital has launched a survey about the development of the ukrainian language will last until january 31, among the questions of whether you switched to the ukrainian language during the war, more than 34%, so far the current result, answered yes, and to the language question, now 86% of kyiv consider ukrainian as their native language in the 17th year in 1917, about which we there we remember the 20th year of the 18th of the 17th, there were only nine of them, well, this is a certain progress. how do you

evaluate this progress? the capital must remain the legislator and language fashion in that number, but it seems that they have delayed a little in time, there would be more dynamics so that in the near future you will also see the results of such a survey, and in the end it is planned to adopt the language strategy in the city of kyiv and, accordingly, the city program at the next sessions, so i will hope that the result of this survey will be absolutely coherent with what we have seen during the last time when the vast majority of ukrainian citizens switched to the ukrainian language and fundamentally refused even to refuse, secondly, citizens today want effective and clear mechanisms with on the part of the local authorities. and these free courses and locations are related to the improvement of language competences, including for those who want to pass the exam, the level of proficiency in the state language. well, and thirdly, it is the ukrainization of this space or signs . what other things

are related to the establishment of the ukrainian language as defined by the law, by the way, i will say that we have updated the statistics on our website of the authorized representatives of the protection of the state language, about 415 locations for the free mastery of the ukrainian language, we can offer to the citizens of ukraine this was my personal initiative and the local authorities, whether it is the west or the south or the center, willingly joined this work, as well as the approval and development of relevant regional programs, so i think the city of kyiv will gain momentum and really demonstrate to all of ukraine how to improve the language situation and the language picture in kyiv, there are now a huge number and internal movements of people, we are joined by diplomatic representatives, the leaders of major countries speak on the highest podiums, so of course when it comes from their mouths the ukrainian language should be much more ukrainian than today in every city and town of ukraine, mr. taras. well, while the situation is

different and develops in different ways, what are the biggest and most significant cases where you identify violations of language legislation? literally yesterday, i read a story about a girl in kyiv who was driving an interview with a commercial structure and literally when i was on the way to this interview i received a message that we are canceling this interview because we have a russian-speaking company is it a team or a semi-bilingual team and you want to speak only ukrainian? therefore, we do not need such an employee, or at all , such facts are common now, did this happen in the capital of ukraine, or is it true? it is much better and it demonstrates its positive dynamics of such examples, uh, let's say not so many, and indeed we paid attention to it, so indeed there was a conversation in one of the construction companies where on

in the opinion of the applicant, there was a violation during the interview, they say, because she did not want to communicate in a non-state language in principle, no they refused a possible recruitment for work, but i want to emphasize that according to the decision of the constitutional court of ukraine, no one is obliged to speak a language other than the state language in addition to everything else today ukrainians also want to learn foreign languages ​​and that is why today it is so easy to communicate with anyone in english and french due to various reasons, but a similar situation happened in lviv if i am not mistaken, she is the applicant from they contacted oblenergo and asked to communicate with her in russian, to which she was refused . i will not say that this is radical. work for ukraine and no one can limit it by using the state language. well , the question here is about oblenergo. i know it too. well, i also

read about this situation in social networks. it was about the hotline, it seems, oblenergo and even later, the manager of oblenergo there asked on social networks what should i do? well , it would be strange if i called oblenergo there from the state of massachusets in the usa and demanded that they communicate with me in ukrainian, but it would be a little strange, so the question is not the situation ambiguous what do you think? well, of course we had different situations. there were periods when ukrainian people's deputies basically refused to communicate in ukrainian. we had cases when they proposed to cancel the language law, but glory for god's sake, the 23rd year shows positive dynamics and there are really a lot of people in the ukrainian language. is it kharkiv? is it mykolaiv? is it lviv ? public space and not with your decision to impose a

fine on him there three and a half thousand. if i am not mistaken, please clarify. of course , you can agree or disagree with me, but i am appointed to the cabinet ministers of ukraine in order to protect the rights of citizens to receive information and services of the state language, at the same time, i want to emphasize that applications for the use of the state language by the kharkiv mayor are received and continue to be received from kharkiv residents. whoever it is, but he must obey the law, is it in social networks, is it public speaking, is it his direct activity, which of kharkiv city students, that is, we are the appearance of such a lawsuit about the cancellation of the resolution and, accordingly, about the imposition of a fine did not surprise me at all, because sooner or later it had to happen, the only thing is that i ask the mayor of kharkiv to consider carefully, regardless of what the decision will be, but it will not work for anyone in any way, because the best option is of course to withdraw such

a statement of claim, if not, then of course we will communicate already in the court session, but i want to emphasize that in kharkiv today , in ukrainian, there are much more language cobblers in the walls public activists of kharkiv universities are actively working to decommunize the kharkiv space. does this apply to the streets, squares, but kharkiv today is extremely suffering, including from the sprouts of the russian world, which they wanted to impose in the 14th year and continued last year, i hope and i believe that the protection of the ukrainian language is not only a confrontation with the authorized protection of the state language, it is concrete steps towards kharkiv. i want to emphasize that the kharkiv regional council has a completely different position there even a year ago the regional program was approved and it is effectively implemented, unfortunately, there is no city program in kharkiv, there are very few city courses for mastering the ukrainian language, and the huge number of requests from the card and coming from kharkiv, how is it decided that not enough attention is paid to external

advertising and customer service these are the online stores of poland, so let's hope and believe that the kharkiv process will be in favor of ukraine and will in no way stir up the air where it is not necessary, because we route well, according to the information of your office , problems with learning the ukrainian language were discovered in the schools of sunny transcarpathian ukrainian, what are these problems and how did it happen that in the territory of the region, which is located in the southwest, i would say ukrainian land, there were problems with the knowledge of the language, even i ask children in schools. i think that i did not reveal any secrets. i said that what is really a violation and application of the language law in educational institutions in different parts of ukraine. let's say that in our country a fine is imposed and an announcement is made. a warning to the center and professors of the leading universities, we have had situations with violations of the educational and language law in schools in odesa and mykolaiv and kyiv,

including, and it is absolutely not surprising that such situations happen here, including in transcarpathia, there is nothing fundamental, the only thing is we carried out state control measures within the borders of e-e berezhiv district and in particular our comments of a recommendatory nature we sent to the address of the department of education of berehiv district no comments no claims with all comments they agreed, the only thing i want to emphasize is that the vast majority of educational institutions in the behriv district do not use the ukrainian language as the language of the educational process, taking into account the fact that national minorities obviously study there, but schools are not created according to this principle, but separate classes can be created. we have questions for individual directors schools that do not have certificates for the level of proficiency in the state language. and this is necessarily the language when the director is appointed to the position. we cannot ask questions and comments about the statutory activities of the educational institution to emphasize the language that he teaches and learns the students of oswi