the lands are not protected, it’s just a desire to occupy everything vitaliy thank you very much, in fact, they agree with you because very often when they comment on the reaction of the russian federation to the military return of control over crimea, they start saying that they really worry the miners and the use of tactical nuclear weapons, but in fact, what is stopping volodymyr putin should already apply yes. when we carry out e-e operations to liberate other territories, including part of the description of the kherson region, i am actually talking about this and saying that there is no difference there is none, and crimea is also included, as well as kherson, zaporizhzhia, donetsk and luhansk regions, as early subjects of the russian federation, you are in the constitution, and that is why we say that if vaughn wanted to do it, he

would interrupt us, ms. tamila, so probably let it they will call back in order to still have a good connection. meanwhile, i will ask mr. vitaly and then we will contact the lady and what will you do . she stated in one of the interviews that those who came to crimea illegally after 2014 will be deported . we will release this one the territory of vitaly, do you not think that this is too radical? it is possible that people came to crimea there for their sick parents or something else, ladies , and if you heard or did not hear the question, please repeat about the expulsion. so in one of the interviews you said that those who year came to crimea. they will have to be expelled from this territory after the liberation of crimea from the occupiers. is it necessary to make some exceptions? maybe this is too

radical or not. i think that this is not a radical position. we are talking about russian citizens or other citizens who illegally lived in the territory of crimea, they did not officially enter the territory of the crimean peninsula, the sovereign ukrainian territory , they violated the migration law of the ukrainian sovereign state, respectively, certain humanitarian exceptions, of course, they can be, but after the person leaves the territory of the peninsula and then submits his documents for the possibility of entry and the possibility of temporary residence in the occupied territories , we already know examples, for example, the families of political prisoners have repeatedly contacted me from the wives of political prisoners in certain are citizens of the russian federation who did not have the opportunity to officially live in the territory of crimea, and they were in the process of obtaining ukrainian citizenship

even before 2014. then there was a hundred occupations, then with the acquisition of their husbands, respectively, there are such problems now, but still we understand that the prevailing the majority of people who are in fact the newest colonizers and those people who contribute to the occupation regime who are participants in the same war crimes. they should bear responsibility and leave accordingly from the territory of crimea, regardless of whether they have any property on the territory of the peninsula or whether they already have a mixed family, even a family , and so on, that is, there is nothing radical in our actions, this is international law - it is the right of ukraine to react accordingly to violations of our legislation . i understand this completely logically, because if people know in principle that this is an occupied territory from the point of view of international law, they buy property there, do business, do something else.

they are there and no one is preventing you from opening a business or real estate or owning in bryansk or in kaluska or any region. but when you clearly go to some territory, you make a certain choice, this is in any country, in which difficulties with borders, the same thing happens in turkish cyprus, people who buy real estate there risk the future of this real estate because it is unknown what the status of all this will be. the borders of the state of israel, that is why the state of israel is constantly negotiating with the palestinian administration that this place should be recognized as the territory of israel and that the people who built houses or have property there did not risk it, but the people who live there buy or build

risk by the way, because there have been many times when israel refused its settlements in these territories and it simply demolished them, and you had a house yesterday. and now there is a different international situation , but we do not force people. by the way, i even i don't blame these people there, the israelis who do it, but it's just their choice, they definitely understand what kind of legal system you're not in, and the russians shouldn't have behaved like children, that's all, i'll note right away that my question about radicalism does not mean that i am i believe that these are radical methods, it is simply an appeal to the opinion of a part of the citizens. that is why it is necessary to define it. and it is necessary to define it. we will do it in accordance with international ukrainian legislation, and from what i can see, there is indeed a reaction, but mostly from of the occupation administrations, i myself became the victim of such attacks. when, in the morning after the publication of my publication on

one of the information resources, about the urgent teaching of russian citizens who are illegally developing on the territory of crimea, i received messages on my phone through various messengers there. i don’t know, about 500 messages. that is, it was such a hacker attack on my account, and that’s why we understand that they are very afraid of this, accordingly, they begin to carry out propaganda, talking about what we will to evict the crimeans and not the russians, yes, that is, actually twisting my words or those of other ukrainian state representatives . of the center for eastern european studies, we have a contact, congratulations, address, congratulations, but can you explain to us the mechanism of german policy in connection

with these tanks, yes, it is a very shameful story , and i hope that it will be resolved somehow next week or in a couple of weeks, well, the problem here is that, here, german society is divided, that is, the majority of society supports this course of aid for ukraine and not only economic but also military aid, but what concerns tanks, even unfortunately, society society is divided and there, somewhere around half of the citizens of germany, they believe that in germany there is no need to transfer german tanks to ukraine because, well, it is not because they are pro-russian or anti-ukrainian, but because they are afraid that it will involve germany in this war but why exactly these

leopards and not everything before and whether the next one is rationally impossible to find out, it's just like that, the current opinion is that supposedly these tanks are something, uh, something else. this is something unlike that heavy equipment that we have previously transferred to ukraine, for example, these anti-aircraft firecracker tanks that work very well in the country, but now with these leopards there is such a public opinion

. probably it will be a little now it is inappropriate to say, but in general, the mood has been developing very well in the last 11 months. there was a time when, in general, the germans believed that it was not necessary to give some kind of weapons to conflict regions. there was even such a thing. you can say that it is a foreign policy doctrine that germany exports its weapons to conflict regions. regions and now it is already different. that is, the majority of germans support the fact that germany gives weapons to ukraine, but for some reason there is such a division in society regarding these tanks. well, nevertheless , i think that it will be resolved somehow next week, and that at least

germany's permission to export german tanks from other countries will be granted for these other countries that want to transfer their german tanks to ukraine . the defense of germany can really affect this whole situation and you even allow such a thing. well, it doesn't change the situation very much because, well, in relation to the export of weapons, weapons, weapons to ukraine - this is decided rather by the chancellors and not by the minister, well, actually he is already a minister er, earlier in the 22nd year, i did such things and said several times that if ukraine had the support and that ukraine has the right to return to itself, all those

occupied by them are winter. that is, there are no such fundamental problems with this new nestream minister, but i don’t think so. there is something important, such an important change in the german government of mr. andreas, he knows directly , sir, the story from the ship to the ball on thursday, he is sworn in on friday and he was already at the rammstein meeting, but as far as i have read about him, he is not very was an important figure in the political environment in germany why did i bet on him then as the minister of defense? well, to be honest, i also don't know why he was actually chosen, because, besides, there were completely different last names, and he was a former minister of the land of the gentle sexual.

that is, it is, well, big land in germany, but this is only a story about the price of the minister, he is only a politician of the regional level, and now he suddenly became a minister. why did this happen ? of ukraine well, this personality of the minister does not play a role fork role because it is rather the chancellor who decides what weapons will be supplied from germany to ukraine and how much in principle. we declare no

, because there are also the big seven, and the european union and nato, all these uh-uh, if the organizations of the west they all say, and so do the national governments. they all say that we will support ukraine as long as necessary and that there will not be somehow it ends there of this support, and this also applies to military support, how it will look in reality later, well, unfortunately, i cannot say. there are a lot of factors that affect it, but for now i am rather optimistic, because if you look at the dynamics of this support, it is rather increasing, now there is this problem with tanks, but if you look at the volume of this military support, let's say financial support for ukraine, it has been growing over the

last year, and do you think it will continue, or is this the decision regarding of military support for 1 billion euros, it also includes air defense systems and ammunition, such weapons, in principle, that we need, in particular , the protection of our sky, peter seems to us that they will give the system directly, is it difficult to do this and why is it in the spring, is it not such a long time for germany in principle for waiting well, thank you, thank you for being so attentive well, in principle, as i already indicated, german society and the german political elite, they support and-and these are all the courses and uh , that is, there is uh, almost complete consensus now in relation to this, at least among the centrist parties, that is, among the government parties and also

among the largest opposition party of christian democracy, they are all in favor, and there , for some reason, this problem has arisen in relation to the machine tools, for some reason, there are some, i would say, rather , such a psychological problem. that the germans for some reason are personally afraid to hand over these tanks to ukraine, even if they have already handed over other heavy weapons, they will hand over heavy weapons that are important for ukraine, such as anti-aircraft guns of different systems, it can be said that positions germany will now begin to change this in connection with the statement about the lack of energy independence. is it really realistic to talk about the fact that there really is no energy dependence ? yes, there was an application, a statement

. to import russian coal, oil and gas , that is, in principle, the issue has already been resolved. and it no longer affects german foreign policy, and i think that this will be the case and will remain so even if the war ends. i think it will most likely be here er, only partial trade with russia again. that is, it will probably start again there if there is some kind of peace there and there will be some kind of solution to this conflict, of course , trade with russia will start again, but it will no longer be at the level it was arbitrary, so now there are wars like it was possible in germany to

achieve good results so quickly and to get rid of russia's dependence on the russian federation for supplies, because it was predicted that this would happen completely, it seems to us, in 2024 or 2025. yes, frankly, i too i am surprised that it happened like this. maybe so quickly . well, i think part of this decision or what explains it is that the minister of economy, now from the green party, robert khabar, he already had before this escalation on february 26 of last year great interest and sympathy for the country, and he crept in to solve this problem at least. in general,

the green party is probably the most pro-ukrainian party of the party in germany today, and well, he himself also had support for this, of course, from other parties too its society and economy well, it was like that it's a shameful situation in the 22nd year that we were buying this energy when the war had already started and finally it has now been resolved, mr. andres, you were not surprised that after the interview with angela merkel, the website run by the president of russia, vladimir putin, is constantly using the thesis of this interview is absolutely logical. by the way, to convince him that he was deceived in the issue of ukraine. well, well, i think that here it is necessary to distinguish between the one who speaks and putin, he is there. of course, he is there with all the arguments

that only maybe he's looking in the west and is looking for some support there er, well, the problem with merkel is that she is, for some reason, unlike other politicians of this time, er, she does not even want such people as stalmara, if well, i apologize for what she did then, although well, it must be said that she is also a politician. of course, there was a solution to this policy, but it reflected the mood of german society at that time. that is, it was not just like that, she was here, and the economy, economic actors, and the political

elite, they did not want such a policy as that of merkel at that time. spent, that is, but that's not it less of course, she is also responsible for what happened, and this is a reassessment of the heritage. it turns out that the brand as politicians did not try to satisfy the interests of society. and now it turned out that this society has completely different interests, and they are that the dead satisfied her, his interests are blaming her. you see, she was simply appeasing of the aggressor, as they say , berlin was like chim. and you all were like churchill. there was a collective thursday. i apologize to the german political elite. i don’t see such a thing. well, there is a certain paradox here, because indeed, then the public mood was completely different and was much stronger, this pacifism and all this ideology that supposedly if we trade with russia, it will lead to peace . yes, even then many people believed in it, but

merkel is an unusual person, she is a politician she is the leader of the country and she has a special responsibility and that's why, well, even if it were now, it would be good if she apologized for what she earned then . her and now to things for merkel's legacy, this is probably the biggest problem now, because in general she is considered a good chancellor of germany and and now these are the issues of the so-called eastern policy, here is the politician, she has become a dead problem, we conclude with this, thank you very much, mr. andres, andreas uman and

the analyst of the stockholm the center for eastern european studies was with us as a line of communication. well , we will now have a short break and very quickly return to wait for the cathedral. today we defend it again. we ukrainians from different regions are fighting and praying we volunteer and save we communicate we work today we once again have to return the torn parts of a united ukraine together and together we will win with the day of sobornosty we have raised our heads again in europe reminding of the darkest hours of our history frantz 24 constantly covers events in ukraine our team on the ground and in the studio will inform you about the dynamics of the events of the fighter, the

most relevant from franz 24 in ukrainian on espresso, i am iryna koval, mother, wife, host of the espresso tv channel. and i am also a volunteer, our soldiers at the front need a lot every day things and that's why part of my life today is helping the armed forces of ukraine and i am very grateful to my colleagues for supporting me in this. the war caught me at home in irpen. an alarming suitcase was packed, but this did not reduce the excitement. explosions are burning every minute . gostomel airfield is on fire. i have through the window, a cold basement, then leaving under shelling from irpen for a month after being abandoned by my relatives , and in the end i ended up in lviv, returned to the airwaves and started volunteering together with my colleagues,

helping our military is now indispensable part of our life we ​​gather for drones and thermal imagers, we weave nets, and on weekends we also gather for our defenders at the front, we all cut fruit together, we clean berries, we beat everything and pack it, it is always very gratifying to think that in a few days this tea will warm ukrainian soldiers, each of you can help even a small contribution to the support of the army saves the lives of our soldiers and brings our victory closer, we continue the saturday political club program anzhelika sezonka and vitaly portnikov and i suggest mr. vitaly to start with such news putin's best man viktor it seems to me that medvedchuk wrote

an article in the russian news in denmark out of the blue, why am i saying out of the blue, because mr. vitaly a, when they were transferred in september as part of the exchange of medvedchuk in russia, some experts wrote about the fact that putin does not actually want to save him, but wants him there on instead of punishing or even liquidating because he poured so many billions into er medvedchuk so that he could spread the network of propagandists here, but nothing came of it. absolutely incompetent russian expertise on ukraine which, by the way, led to the fact that all this russian expertise she was just trying to explain to putin what he wants to hear and this expertise has nothing to do with the reality in ukraine. as you can see, there is no need for this to prove that if this examination was correct, then ukrainians

would be showered with flowers by russian soldiers, and ukrainian soldiers would stand with their hands raised, and the ukrainian president would run away to washington or australia. now we live under the conditions of yunakovych's regime, hmm, the examination came out completely frivolous, but i told you the ukrainian expertise on russia, i have to tell you all these decades, believe me as a person who has been engaged in this expertise on russia for eternity, it seems to me that it is equal and just as incompetent, that is, some people who absolutely do not understand what kind of material they are dealing with who may not even have been to russia or who have been but did not understand what is happening there. they are trying to create a picture that is not even the one they like, the one that ukrainian society likes society really wants putin to punish medvedchuk there by whipping him by the ears and shaking him, he has already stolen so much money , by the way, i want to know how

much money putin stole in general. i do not think at all that there is any great importance in the russian iliac to which medvedchuk belongs, who stole what, well , created some kind of propaganda network, well , medvedchuk turned out to be the most effective, maybe the federal security service is to blame for this i didn’t assess the reality very accurately, and maybe the foreign intelligence service was not to blame. or maybe the willing chile gave them little money. the motive for medvedchuk’s release was completely transparent to me. it was , in principle, then and now. for me, it meant only one thing: putin continues to consider medvedchuk the next president of ukraine, and the president of ukraine cannot to be held captive by the nazis is the same thing. it's clear. it's like twice two, and yanukovych. everything. no,

yanukovych has an absolutely specific function. because he is a legitimate president who, according to the russian version, was overthrown by a coup in 2014, and putin keeps saying. it seems to me that he said that three days ago that it all started with a coup d'état, so what does this operation look like yanukovych together with his hop company, which is now gone it doesn't matter because donbas is russia comes to kyiv, announces extraordinary elections and elects medvedchuk as president, that's all the story ends, by the way, about this idea . i heard it for the first time, i think it was 2010 or 2011 russian officials told me last year, i congratulate you on this wonderful dialogue, you know who will be the next president of ukraine, i was asked all the time, i said, you know, no one can know the name of the next president of ukraine, because ukraine is an electoral state and no one will ever say to anya in kyiv and no in moscow who

will be the next president, i asked them, did you know for sure that after yushchenko there would be yanukovych, it was absolutely a duel between yanukovych and tymoshenko. did you know, by the way, that someone knew who would be yanukovych's successor poroshenko and his the last name did not sound even on the day the maidan ended. as a real person who can lead the state, i'm not even talking about zelenskyi, but that's what a democratic state looks like, that's what they don't understand and they tell me . and why can't he be the president, i say and that's why that ukrainians won't vote for him, he can't be elected, you don't say it, vitaliy, you're just saying some strange things , volodymyr volodymyrovych has already decided. if ukrainians don't support it, it's even worse for them. well, we see it so much worse, but somehow turned out to be yes. so what does this mean, in principle, he was released , rehabilitation began, and now, obviously, he already feels well enough to lead

this parallel project. what does medvedchuk's article mean in reality? well, i have very much not in reality . here in reality, when the special operations began, and again, this is not my fantasy , i can quote putin, it was said that russia would ensure the legitimacy of the ukrainian government with this special operation, and the freedom of all the belligerents was discovered of the peoples of ukraine, what does this mean, it means that referendums were to be held on most of the territory of ukraine. as you saw in donetsk or kherson, according to these referendums, these regions joined russia. well, that is, because of independence, russia recognized kharkiv oblast as independent. she declared zaporizhzhia oblast independent , i don't know poltava sumy kirovo