it's good, it's the second time to plant misha myself, and we're also trying to show this truth on the screen. there were 50 of us in a day, but now there may be a little less of us. but we thank the ukrainians, everyone who joined, i also want mr. andriy to say to call everyone to leave your country. this is a great weapon . our voice that we can give not all of us with hope go out every day in krakow that this is the last day of our protests the last day of the war thanks to all the defenders who fight for us defenders we stand together with them we got to know each other thank you thank you very much participants of the distribution participants as well as me we are one cathedral ukraine. thank you very much oleksandr. thank you to all ukrainians in poland, particularly in the city of krakow. it was oleksandr

biryukov, co-organizer of the action to celebrate the day of the cathedral in poland, how the ukrainian diaspora in the usa celebrated the day of the cathedral we can see how light it is now in america oleksandr i see that you are in florida congratulations on this day and you have a word please thank you ukraine thank you kyiv that's ukraine florida ukrainian diaspora ukrainian activists not only ukrainian but here she is among us, and americans who support ukraine constantly join our actions at the beginning of the great invasion , they show support, they are also quite active in the speech of ukraine at all levels of power in america, and we are fighting, fighting and helping our ukraine as much as we can from this i can see the edge of the ocean, dmytro. why do you have

so many posters behind you? please tell me what is written there, why exactly and the posters are absolutely yes, the main theme of our posters is of course that russia is a terrorist, it is a country that kills ukrainians kills children for nothing very cruelly we demand to recognize russia as a terrorist country we remind the world that such a cruel war is going on that people are dying every day we demand more weapons right now because every hour and every day of waiting is the life of our ukrainians and perhaps our glorious nations are suffering enough already we have to live, we have to build the future and we hope that our children and grandchildren will never fight the same evil that we are fighting now, we

must put an end to it, but only thanks to by the efforts of the whole world we must unite the whole world in the fight against this influx, this is a war not only of ukraine and russia, this is a war of the entire civilized world against the hordes, against culturelessness and poaching. thank you very much to the ukrainians of the united states of america. this was dmytro bashkot, co-organizer actions for the day of the cathedral of ukraine in the usa ukrainian diaspora in florida the city of del rey beach and now we will talk about the celebration of the day of cathedral with the president of the world congress of ukrainians pavlo grod pavlo greetings, we see how ukrainians around the world celebrate this day why is this an important day for ukraine, let's talk with you now, and how do you assess the extent to which the ukrainian diaspora, e.e., ukrainian refugees in different countries are really joining in helping the entire ukrainian

people in this terrible fight against the russian invasion. good evening. greetings to all, oleksiy congratulations on the day of the unity of ukraine and before the independence of ukraine until the 91st year . us historical and today in particular it is important that we understand that today ukraine and ukrainians from this world are as united as ever and today as you saw on the screens there in the furydia there we see in sednei in australia all over europe while writing to america e our ukrainians of this world are coming out to the streets and these are only ukrainians. these are ukrainians and friends of ukraine, who are very many. today, i would say that every civilized person in the world today is a friend of ukraine, and this is an important moment that they understood that today most

what is wrong with ukraine? is it the tanks? were afraid and these are the main slogans that we are proving today and in germany, in particular, we saw how our community was very active in germany in the last two days. it turns out that it is necessary to call on the german government to provide ukraine with leopard tanks and to do everything possible to we could not de-opt ukraine and that we could become a sovereign, independent ukraine again, i see that just behind you is the inscription frieze leopard hashtag - this is free the leopards, this is probably primarily about this situation, right, right, yes, and this is uh

an important indicator for e-e is very difficult, we often see that especially the germans to a certain extent and the french are very afraid to offend russia and it is important that we call on them to be brave like ukrainians so that they are not afraid to give ukraine this military support that it needs today, because if there are no leopards in ukraine , they will be used in germany when russia comes and further. and here it is very important that we, as global ukrainians , call on all our friends in the world, and we do this in the streets, but also to understand that after those street actions, our public leaders everywhere in the world and in the capitals of the world will move and meet tomorrow in koneyki will meet with politicians with the media work with civil society from the leaders of the brains of the countries in their languages to talk with and convince the leaders of those

countries that military and various aid to ukraine is needed today pavlo wanted to know from you whether the representatives of active ukrainian communities in different countries somehow want ukrainians to interact with each other and if so, how it happens, it is like the restoration of the world congress of ukrainians. we are just by the way , yesterday we held a huge meeting of all our constituent organizations in 65 out of 65 countries of the world, they discussed the next steps, are these actions related to the day of synodality ? the first anniversary of a large-scale war is seen from the church in february and everything is happening, that is, our community today is very united and it is growing, it is growing in the understanding that

uh . that this unity is our strength this is our strength of the ukrainian people and that is why we unite and work in the border our action is it at the political level or even work with our communities is it to educate young ukrainians so that they are conscious ukrainians to work with precisely so that to support to give them employment if they have not forgotten what and so that they do not fall into this trouble in the russian and russian measure, which, by the way, works very hard in particular and the march in europe and south america, and therefore it is important not to promote the issue of the ukrainian world if we unite. very thank you for everything, it was pavlo grot, the president of the world congress of ukrainians. what about the historical importance of the day of the sobornosti let's talk with candidates of historical

sciences, expert of the ukrainian institute of the future, serhiy hrynenko, mr. serhiy, i congratulate you, i am glad to see you on the air of our marathon, and first of all, we would like to talk about this day in general. well, he has many metamorphoses during of independent ukraine, and various presidents of the goths established it, renamed it, tried to somehow transfer it, and now it is probably acquiring some other dimension, where is it moving, where is this date being transformed what can be expected from such a day as the day of sobornosti as a general idea of ​​the unity of ukraine unity that unites people who are probably used to living in different circumstances in the east of the country in the west how it can be transformed further i am not yet it is difficult to say how it would be from my personal point of view in principle, it is ideal

that this process ends not just with renaming and reformatting, but with the establishment of a dual holiday on january 2, the day of the first independence and cathedral of ukraine . was chosen not by chance for the solemn act of zluk on sofia square, it was actually the first anniversary of the announcement of the fourth universal, more precisely, the universal was proclaimed later uh, no, not even like that, it was written and signed both before and after, but on january 22, 18, it’s just such a formal date of its adoption, and on the very first anniversary , now they decided to celebrate, and under this date , the conclusion of the act raised the tone, because

previously the agreements were signed even earlier , so it seems to me that when will january 22 finally be a day off in ukraine celebration in honor of the first independence in the 20th century and the council of actions, we can say that we will complete this transformation and our current national collective memory of ukrainians about the events of the centenary will become more or less adequate, i wonder if the liberation of the occupied territories will become new holiday and will not overshadow this new holiday. the day of the congregation, which we are celebrating now. nothing threatens the day of the congregation on january 22. i would be worried on the spot on may 9. the holiday of may 9 itself remains as a conditional holiday. there, victory day during the last term of office of the penultimate president was an attempt and,

in principle, it was possible to somewhat limit the pathos of this day. well, with the renaming of the holiday from victory day to victory day over nazism, but still for most of those who follow, it is just one victory it is obvious that when the ukrainian troops reach the borders of 1991 with sevastopol and with donetsk and luhansk, then a significant and more important victory for ukraine will be established serhiy thank you very much for your expertise it was so timely candidate of historical sciences an expert of the ukrainian institute of the future , this year's day of sobornosti was filled with additional content, for which, however, ukraine is paying a high price for this, said anton shrodnych, head of the ukrainian institute of national remembrance, in an interview with the public, let's see. i knew that sooner or later there would be a full-scale war. the very logic of the historical

process prompted me to do this. in principle, i hoped that this would not happen and that reason would prevail, but their whole being is the black hundred. what century was not spoken was asked in russia and it broke through. i sincerely congratulate you on to the first channel of public broadcasting and thank you very much for finding the opportunity to come to us despite the fact that you are currently in the service for what you by the way, thank you very much, please, thank you for inviting me. with what feelings, emotions and reflections will you meet this day this year, well, you know , it has been a long time, although the cathedral day is one of the most important. i consider holidays in our annual cycle and in the national canon, but this year is probably the strongest we will actually feel this essence of this council

. because ukraine is, it seems to me, after this almost year of war, the biggest shield not even in 30 years, but in the last 100 years, since the times of the first liberation struggles, because you see that there is no such patch of ukraine where people are not permeated by solidarity in fighting and supporting each other a-a starting from humanitarian aid of some nets for the army e-e ending with simply territorial regional representation e-e of people who defend their homeland with weapons in their hands, i.e. me i think that the day of catholicism is completely additional to the usual one with a very valuable meaning , although at a huge cost. and it is good that this form and this idea of ​​catholicism was established. it simply grew and was filled with meaning, so i have a feeling of such, you know, great exciting joy, but with such a touch of dear prices

when i was preparing for our interview, i decided to look at some of the latest sociology and in particular found a survey for december of the kyiv international institute of sociology - one of the questions that was asked the respondents were asked about how do you consider yourself in the first place, and sociologists note that there is now an unprecedented increase in the percentage of people who say that they consider themselves citizens of ukraine first of all, but in this survey it is almost 80%. and the conclusion of scientists is what i will quote here. we believe that the process of forming a civil nation has ended in ukraine. do you agree with this? i think it has not yet ended, but one of the most important stages has taken place because this term civil or political nation is deciphered very easy if we think back to ancient

greece, where does it come from, where does this term citizenship and citizen come from, roughly speaking, it is a community that stands guard on the walls of its city in the name of this city living , being free, trading, loving, and that's all such a common organism, where citizenship means joint action, citizenship means unity there in the first sense of our conversation, when we all together perform various tasks in the interests of each other, and of course this year of struggle has shown that this idea is indeed the citizenship of a political nation is political unity. it has been remarkably saved, but it is not yet a finished process. unfortunately, an existential threat is what united us all, or is it something else that unites citizens of ukraine of different nationalities and stories and others before the great to an existential extent, the

threat is external, but one more thing is very important in the face of this threat, we not only jump into criticism and denial of the enemy. this is an important part of realizing our identity, but we as a society were able to find this form of joint action of all love, joint support, maybe it sounds a little sentimental, but for this there is no nation, a nation is not built, and any healthy community cannot be built solely on the denied delimitation of oneself from other communities. there must be something else and this common work when we support each other we are one green when people disassemble the concrete of a house destroyed in the dnipro with their hands they are the community of their city they are a community that works together loves together builds together saves and this is very an important story, in addition to the separation of oneself from others, this is joint creation, joint existence , joint salvation, that is when this process actually takes place, it is also not completed

. unfortunately, will this remain with us when the existential threat disappears ? denominator -1 common denominator for our unity will unfortunately be an external threat from the russian federation will not disappear if we win the war very well on our terms uh the risks are still very high i am already silent about what we have there are many tails from the past that need to be worked on after the victory, we need to continue working on talking about our problematic moments, finding out the next scenarios of joint action, what to live for, what country to build, if we don't do this, we will be a closed community and further , because the project of the future and the project of joint action, it is extremely important for the existence of the nation, just one victory is not enough, it is still important and strategic, but

it is not all general about this project. the idea of ​​why we are all together, it had to be based on super values ​​in such there as respect for human dignity, what for us in principle is characteristic of freedom, but there should also be a project for the future at least for 100 years, and then of course we have a greater chance of the year 22 january we also celebrate the 105th anniversary of the declaration of independence of the ukrainian people's republic. explain to our viewers the importance of this event for our history. actually, these events are almost a century old. they are more than 100 years old. from 17 to 20-21, these are the liberation contests of the beginning of the 20th century. century when in fact we found ourselves in a very similar situation, the russian empire collapsed because it was a rotting foot and the people who lived on the territory of ukraine dreamed of many people, not all, but many people dreamed of an independent ukrainian republic and they actually

created the ukrainian people's republic was created and it she tried to build herself , she tried to find her place in the world at international conferences, she looked for military aid, just as we are looking for it now, but then it did not work out, then the russian bolsheviks and their mercenaries very quickly mobilized and gathered, deceived some part of our society with socialist ideas, under which the new imperialism was actually disguised and destroyed the ukrainian republic, plus they took advantage of the internal members of the republic, and but the idea was laid then by tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people who with weapons in their hands and politically dreamed of this republic defended this republicanly, you know, it created such an honest sense, an honest idea of ​​an independent ukrainian republic. and although it was destroyed by the bolsheviks, they could not even the bolsheviks themselves, seeing this opposition to condemnation, they could not generate it and that is why the ukrainian soviet

socialist republic was actually set up. the bolsheviks did a lot during their time to erase the memory of this attempt to build a republic, and after gaining independence in 1991 , it actually sews up our memory of this persistence our history of the 20th and 21st centuries into one story, the history of the struggle for this idea for this republic well, this is a history that i clearly want to erase as much as possible. which by virtue of the will of someone there, uh, the communists put it as soon as they face the historical truth that there were people alive here, who gave their lives, money , health, the best ideas in creating this

republic, their version does not seem convincing and according to that, the soviet union looks like a powerful neo-imperialist occupier who destroyed the young independence, but by the way, not only ukrainians, there were poles, belarusians , lithuanians. the soviets, but someone like the belarusians or the ukrainians did not succeed in defending it, now we have to defend it now, mr. shotgun, let's talk a little about your service, because you can't know in this conversation bypass the fact that you are now in front of me in military uniform, a soldier of the 112th territorial defense brigade of ukraine, as the director of the ukrainian institute of national remembrance, made a decision for himself to go to the theater well, first of all, i did not plan, it happened by accident, but in principle to military personnel i simply served

in the army in the 14-15th year and i was actually a reservist of the first wave much earlier than i joined the civil service, that is, this military duty, and accordingly i went to the military sbu and prepared myself. i knew what would happen sooner or later there will be a full-scale war, er, the very logic of the historical process prompted this. because the more authoritarian russia became, the more it fell into putin's territory, even the more they encouraged this neo-imperial fascism , which they have, the greater the probability and eh -th percentage of the fact that they will attack an independent, free, not super economic successfully, but in principle, a country like ukraine, which is developing along the european path, it's just that it was inevitable and after the 14th year it was just it's obvious to me and sooner or later they had to, according to my calculations, for a passport. in principle, i hope that this will not happen together will win, but their whole being, eh, since the black hundred

centuries, it was not talked about, nurtured in russia, it broke through, so i knew that it would happen and that's why i trained in the military, but already there in the 19th year, when i applied for public service, the competition was presented by the director of the institute of national memory, it was already after this choice to have a military fact. and when the war began, i had a mobilization order. i during i was supposed to show up in two or three hours, and i did this. i showed up at the assembly center. well, the military commander told me what to do. i finished the case quickly within a day from the state to such colleagues who also gathered very quickly at that moment, by the way, not only me about 1.5 dozen of my employees are currently serving in the army in various theaters of this war , uh, about 70 workers at the time of the start of the war. one and a half dozen people are currently serving in the army, but i just don't know what the main

idea is that he preceded military duty military officer of the civil service well, that's why i didn't have a choice about this issue, and i am grateful to the minister of culture, information policy, oleksandr tkachenko, who also felt it, understood, and let me go to the army there without creating any additional tension, anything to do with this issue, well, despite the fact that you are serving near kiev, yes, and this is the 112th brigade of the teotsa, kyiv terror defense. so called, it was not so easy to invite anton shrochnych for an interview, by the way, what is your situation in the terror defense brigade in view of all these conversations so, however, what could be a new offensive of russia on kyiv, here i want to note by the way that different brigades are there, for example, even the lviv brigade, the odesa mykolaiv brigade, the kyiv brigade, they either take part in battalions or vice versa, and the kherson brigades also participate in completely different operations. well, under bakhmut and so in the same way,

we and my comrades, even from my battalion, carry this, too, to the question of this council that we are completely different, it seems to me that not everyone is protecting our district. there i am . intertwined and depending on the specialty , we are in different parts of ukraine if necessary but the logic is that now the territorial defense forces are preparing to repulse this hypothetical potential attack from the north, and our large forces are going to prepare fortifications and block and make tank-dangerous directions impassable. for example, i serve at an anti-tank plant and we are working in the north on the fact that if some belarusian or russian force comes to us,

we will guide them or their charms. the technique will not pass. in the platoon, my specialty is aerial reconnaissance. i don’t do it. in fact, since the 14th year, i have been an artillery major. but at that time, at the beginning of a full -scale aggression. for example, when i came to yours, they just sent people to the territorial defense by bus, not nastya, they simply could not quickly cope with such a large number of people who wanted to defend their city. by the way, since you joined the kyiv defense forces at the beginning of this new big phase of the war after february 24 then we can say that you already had a certain baptism of fire, since this full-scale invasion began in particular with the attack on kyiv. how did you survive these events then?

the level of solidarity and readiness of kyivans to fight for their city, absolutely all of them, not only those who received weapons and began to build fortifications like us, also engaged in counter-subversive work there, actually like our battalion, but also just kyivans who have nothing to do with military service, who fed, collected, helped with ammunition for us in the first these it was simply an incredible level of support i will remember this experience forever entertainment, a serious challenge to carry out coordination by the 72nd brigade, which in our direction, where we stood here, was the first line of defense of kyiv, there were guys from our

112th brigade. took the 72nd brigade, and this is to find a common language, to jointly decide to choose these sectors of defense there, to replace the corresponding points, well, this was such a very important task. was to become the defense of the last hope, because after the 72nd brigade there was our 111th brigade, we were actually in our position not far from a residential building, and accordingly the 72nd brigade was as far as possible from kyiv , how far behind them were we and then the city that is why we had the task of standing until the end to prevent our city from being taken by the enemy. well, it is still scary in one way, but of course not as scary as later on in the kherson direction during the autumn campaign for kherson or there, artillery fired at us very heavily, but in general, the atmosphere was like this, on the one hand, you are inspired, you are ready to go to the end to defend your home, and on the other hand, well, it’s scary, there are tanks there, some subversive groups are breaking through, and

someone is running away. yes, but well, conflicting impressions on the one hand, on the other hand, such and such a school of life that has never been you won't forget. and now, at this new stage of the russian-ukrainian war, what are the main tasks of the ukrainian institute of national remembrance, well, first of all, to keep the projects that we started before the full-scale war but it works. for example, we have a number of projects that are aimed at preserving the historical truth about this period, oral historical materials, a virtual museum of russian aggression, a visiting necropolis of ukrainian emigration, that is, to show the tenacity of the ukrainian idea on the one hand and the ukrainian republic on the other, to show all the drama and principle of this struggle, which is now going on, and from a third party to highlight all those war crimes committed by russia, therefore one of the priorities these projects will collect