tv [untitled] January 23, 2023 3:30am-4:01am EET
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groups break through and someone escapes yes, but well , conflicting impressions from one side, from the other side, such and such a school of life that you will never forget in this new stage of the russian-ukrainian war, what are the main tasks of the ukrainian institute of national memory, well, first of all, to keep projects that we started before the full-scale war, but it works. for example, we have a number of projects aimed at preserving the historical truth about this period, oral historical materials, a virtual museum of russian aggression, e.e., a detailed necropolis of ukrainian emigration, i.e. to show this tenacity of the ukrainian idea on the one hand and the ukrainian republic on the other hand, to show all the drama and principle of this struggle that is currently taking place and on the third hand to highlight all those war crimes committed by russia, therefore one of the priorities - these projects are to be preserved, they have been translated in
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english so that the whole world has access and understands that this nest began in 2019, that the aggression began in the 14th year, and the background history is the prelude to this aggression in general for a century that is, the first is correct. the second is the actual commemoration of this war, which is extremely important, because how to remember this war, how to preserve all this diversity of social experience of this solidarity, which supports us so much now, to record it so that later our children and grandchildren, after the victory, will remember and knew the price of this, this is a very important idealistic matter, are you recording any testimonies or are you collecting the testimonies that we are currently recording, in particular mine as journalists, and we are recording the testimonies and trying to preserve the elements of the mass culture, that is, images, art, things, and even oral folklore, anecdotes, and materials, including journalists, and we are trying to record, for example, everything related to war crimes, of course, we do not have enough resources for this, because
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after all, everyone talks a lot about the importance of this memory and resources are only decreasing in these areas, and that is why we are engaged in partnering somewhere with other organizations, plus, in parallel with this, there are such strategic topics as, for example , defending the truth about the holodomor in the world, yes and the recognition of the holodomor. we will work with the ministry of foreign affairs actively with the ministry of culture , information and politics. for example, the bundestag 's decision to recognize the holodomor did not fall from the sky. institute, even immediately before this decision, a number of expert materials were prepared and distributed in germany, because these decisions to receive it accordingly are such strategic points that do not disappear from our agenda the importance of which, well, you can’t tell from them here, in fact , we can say that your work is partly
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about debunking historical myths, and we are not only talking about debunking myths externally, it is also partly inside the country, where it is obvious. so there is quite a lot of post-soviet heritage in this plan, but in general, how difficult and how possible is it for you to implement this work, i will say roughly in the market where russia has been working for a very long time, if we even take e-e abroad. so we understand that russian propaganda has been at least since the 14th year working on the information space there is also an important direction of struggle, because there are many people in ukraine who will live long enough, well, in the soviet worldview and according to soviet textbooks, they understand history, and there are a lot of fakes, which are diluted to the level of the historical canon and according to us we need to educate ourselves, it's not only some panfilovites young guard or pioneer heroes
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who could simply not exist who were invented here and uh, the same stories there about lenin, about shchors and so on and all things that are poisonous because first of all they are false and then - the second they fix and normalize such norms of behavior that are free and worthy of a decent person , they do not read historical myths accordingly - this is an important part of our struggle, we really deal with them, their debunking and this understanding must be done on the basis of historical science, we cannot afford to replace such yellow- alternate soviet myths with blue or black and red myths, that is, they do not work like that, is the truth effective against fiction by itself ? academic truth is not always effective, the truth must be able to be told in different ways to the audience as she can understand it, while not distorting it. this is a big task, which is actually difficult for our institute, one of the
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key ones. how do you feel about such people? for example, the ukrainian historian yaroslav hrytsak, who decided after february 24 to be published in the russian edition of medusa . ukrainians now have to deal with debunking myths for russians, a free scientist can express the truth if he himself is not engaged in it. propaganda is everywhere in the world in any publication, and well, no one can and should not prohibit it from doing so the essence of academic freedom and freedom in general is the first, the second, if at least 1% of people in russia, after reading that material, will stop helping or, for example, decide to harm russian propaganda or russian armed aggression or sabotage something, this is already a good result , that is, all that what strengthens ukraine and weakens the totalitarian direction in russia, everything is
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in our favor if you want to help ukraine a little bit, increase the number of doubters in russia or increase the number of people, roughly speaking, ready for sabotage in beautiful russia. and do you think that this can affect the willingness to commit sabotage in russia? do you know there is such a thing as chinese torture or torture? well, some kind of eastern torture or combat technique. hundreds of cuts, i don’t think that one article can increase the number of people who are critical of putin's regime and are ready to act as saboteurs or partisans against this regime is significant, but if it comes out of 100 foreign articles, there is a global consensus regarding russia's genocidal actions of war crimes if the entire information field is adequate information
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the field will broadcast this opinion, accordingly, the probability that russia's internal resistance will rise is increasing. in fact, i don't care about the fate of russia, well, like most ukrainians, i see her in hell, but if a certain number of decent people with remnants of conscience rise up to fight internally, it will help the armed forces to fulfill our task and will help catch russia in continuation of what you said about hell for russia and its collapse eh, of course we now want to simulate one way or another how will the war develop further with what it will end and hmm, you are like that, the question is sometimes at certain moments whether there is no fear among even among our partner countries that russia may lose according to your feelings. is the west ready for the defeat of russia in this war ? that
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it can be deciphered as whether we have a strategy and conditions for victory in which we ourselves believe in which we achieve and which we can offer to the world a-a. it seems to me that this is not a completely thought-out thing, we have not yet presented such a concrete education a picture of a defeated russia that would calm down from the end because on the one hand, western countries are really afraid that if we defeat russia militarily, it will disintegrate into many warring enclaves , some of which will have atomic weapons some of which are chemical weapons, some of which are some strategic or tactical means of impression, this can turn a huge 1/6 of the world into a zone of instability, respectively, this is the first scenario, the second scenario, and our victory can lead to the preservation of a totalitarian system, some new huge north korea
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will appear in the world, which will also threaten everyone with atomic batons, accordingly, these are the risks that scare us, including our western allies, and accordingly, we need to come up with such an image of victory, such point-by- point victory, which we explain how we will act in the first case and what can we do as the world can be how we will act in the second case and that it is a comprehensive model of victory but it still seems to me that our plan is a minimum victory is an exit to the borders of the 91st yes, that is, including donbass and crimea, and even this scenario scares some people. yes, i am sure you know even better than me these conversations about what is possible, let's continue to negotiate about crimea, you understand, for us in ukraine there are no questions for us the consensus is to expel the people so that the living will never come to us, let them go to their borders with the internationally recognized, there are no problems here. but why is this frightening, why is it stressing out the
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western partners, the world is asking the following question: what will happen next with russia? to the light bulb that's why i already said where we see them and the world understands, global players understand that this does not happen, the war does not just end, something will begin in russia and this zone of instability, unfortunately, disputes with its national interests, this is what happened that ukraine is a global player we became a global player as soon as we gave the age to the global players of russia and accordingly, unfortunately, our vision of victory, our plan of minimum victory is closely and ringed and tightly connected with the global future world is a huge picture, it must be written down and thought through, make sure for yourself, and roughly speaking, sell the world, make a contract, roughly, we have to take on the role of the winner of the war, how do we see the development of events, the optics are very important here. now this is the navel
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of the earth and this is a key event now on the planet. unfortunately, no one wanted such events. no one in ukraine wanted this. it costs us a lot. but this is actually the main stage of the world. this play will end, and if we have the script, we will write it, then western and eastern analysts will compare their scenarios and forecasts with ours. the main thing is not only to propose uh, we must act on it very decisively, very harshly. thank you very much for this conversation. thank you. meet the world with a smile . dream to engrave your uniqueness to know the words of your teacher to forget to
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mark on everyone who has been there remember this when you see a person in military uniform her eyes are like that remember what price our heroes pay every day we respect them we thank them, we help them and we will definitely win. thanks to them, behind those landings, the line of the donetsk point is already advancing into the combat zone for those people who are going there, and i will be responsible for those people we will leave. if he had finished, he would have already
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bear with me, dear father, where are you injured, what did you count, once there were those people who were taken out by one and a half thousand white angels evacuation from hell wednesday 21:15 we continue our marathon the only news in the studio is andrii dekhtyarenko working in sign language lada sokolyuk is the team of the first public broadcasting channel what is the situation in the kherson region, we will find out from the first deputy chairman of the kherson regional council, yuriy sobolevskyi, we are in touch with yuriy. greetings. let 's talk about the situation in the region, what happened there in the last day. i congratulate you, unfortunately
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the security situation remains difficult, the enemy continues shelling kherson itself and other communities of our region in the last 24 hours, 49 shellings were recorded, 13 of them directly on kherson. unfortunately, three people were injured in the parade, now they are receiving medical assistance. i really hope that everything will be fine now unfortunately, they already have a security situation. it is still very difficult. we know that in recent days people with various diseases were evacuated in order for them to continue treatment for wounds in other regions. how did this process last? is it continuing for the last few days? lviv
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oblast, uh, these are our patients and people up to the elderly age. i thank the lviv military administration very much. kyiv to the kyiv region, and there they were provided with accommodation so that they could live in this dangerous period in such comfortable conditions and the most important safe companies. surely you also have information about what is happening in the occupied part of the kherson region, how the occupiers are behaving there what are the main problems of the local residents? unfortunately, you know, the pressure on our people is increasing, in addition, the humanitarian situation is becoming more and more catastrophic because the occupation authorities continue to actually destroy the medical system which remained in the temporarily occupied
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territory, the process of this relocation of medical facilities is currently underway, they are trying to transport them and medical equipment and transfer workers to henichesky district , mainly novotroitsk and henichesk. and people in other communities will actually be deprived of the right to medical care, they will not have access or it will be very limited, in addition, part of the institutions they are trying to turn them into just a military hospital because there are actually a large number of wounded people there now because there are constantly continues to destroy the enemy and reduces the combat effectiveness of the unit, which is now located to the south, and yet they want to receive additional medical capacity at the expense of our medical facilities.
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ukraine, does mobile communication work there, how are the occupiers trying to interrupt these connections, because we are also talking about the day of the cathedral , about congratulating people from the occupied territory. maybe you also know how it was celebrated you know there. well, the people who are there. it is very dangerous for them right now, any manifestation of patriotism, because it is really dangerous and serious, really dangerous, but these people live with ukraine in their hearts, they are really waiting for a push, they are really waiting for de-occupation. very limited access to information, but such opportunities are preserved thanks to e-e appropriate services that are installed with software that is installed on a smartphone that helps to bypass the restrictions that they set on the schedule, not all vpn programs work there, but there are people who know very well what works and how to use them, it is clear that it is not enough
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, let's say so, to inform the population, but still, i want to limit access to information , which is limited in our people. bought russian troops will happen soon it was yuriy sobolevskyi, the first deputy head of the kherson regional council, and now let's talk about the situation in another hot region of our country, donetsk region, what is happening there we will find out from our correspondent oleksandr zabrodin, oleksandr congratulations, the situation is really terrible in donetsk region, constant shelling, the occupiers are trying to put pressure on us, we are waiting for the latest news from you, please. good evening, colleague. good evening, viewers. indeed, donetsk region remains the hottest region of our country. unfortunately, the russians continue to weigh all the communities of donetsk region. those that are located directly on the line of battle and those that are, as it were,
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far from the front line, no less artillery of the people's army is reaching. they are also terrorizing these cities. of course, the hottest spot remains the city of bakhmut, the fortress of bakhmut, as it is true now, ukrainian networks are constantly saying so, and this is correct because thanks to the courage and heroism of our armed forces, the city of bakhmut is holding on . a large number, in particular, the eastern district, the eastern part, the eastern outskirts of bahmut, there is the most destruction there, but as you can see from the videos that are on social networks, the destruction is all over the city and on in the western suburbs and in the center of the city and so on. i will remind you that before all these events , approximately 80,000 people lived in bakhmut. now , according to the information of the local authorities, we keep in touch. in particular, i constantly try to get in touch. according to his latest information, there are currently approximately 8,000 people left in the city, these are mostly people on pensions
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, elderly pensioners or people who are not socially insured, that is, the problems are up, this is the population, they remain there, however this is a staggering number and we understand that these people need to survive, and because of this, there is humanitarian aid because we understand that there are no communications there, humanitarian aid is actually now the only possibility for people to survive there and there are no communal services there either but nevertheless, bakhmut is holding on and we believe that the armed forces of ukraine will hold their own against others. the community of donetsk region is also constantly being shelled very hotly, in particular, one of the hottest areas remains the small selishchna maryinka, whose bathhouse is actually being stormed already well, in fact, 11 months, colleagues, because this is a settlement that is located in the immediate vicinity of donetsk, which was occupied in the 14th year. of course, they want to capture it, as we can see from the video, how i saw a weapon on the video of the settlement. it's just the ruins of the city, or rather, there is no village in general, these are just ruins that the armed forces of ukraine are now trying to get, that is, the
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settlement as such is no longer there. before that, there were approximately 800 people living somewhere. now, i talked to them all before. when did mariinka start at all? ignore the information about what is happening there, as i spoke with vitaly barabash, thanks. he said that those people who lived there, what do they teach people ? people of avdi , remembering my situation. it is also very difficult there, too, there is constant shelling of the destruction , a lot of damage is still left somewhere around the message, that is exactly what you remember, there is about two half of the equipment left i tried thousands of people in the town, let me remind you before this, 26,000 are also a difficult situation, people are being killed at the expense of humanitarian aid , there are a lot of shelling by the russians, but also, in fact , for 11 months now, they have been oppressing the avdiivka village, there is destruction. as vitaliy barabash says, mr. and the manager actually bought him and quoted his
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words. we are already in fact we just don't count the destruction because there are not only a lot of them, it just doesn't make sense to fix them, they also beat a high-rise in a private building, despite everything, there are a lot of destruction colleagues unfortunately, donetsk region suffers a lot from the trade that with the help of the opportunity to let the russians in. what's more, i want to say that in fact and even a russian propagandist and pro-russian propagandists, one of them is a british citizen graham phillips wrote somehow it happened that from the pastor to the soledar completely everything was destroyed, there is absolutely no surviving building, and that’s how it happened. well, he doesn’t want to say that in fact it was the result of the actions of the russian occupiers without them. there was life here, there was life, and ukrainians lived calmly and spoke ukrainian in russian, no one pressured anyone , thank you very much oleksandr oleksandr zabrodin - our correspondent from donetsk region turned on and showed what was happening there well, actually, it
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is really terrible to look at these maps and these shots from maryinka with bahmut well, let's go on, a former us military pilot takes care of a rescued animal kharkiv volunteer bruce perry was in ukraine for the second time since the start of the full-scale invasion, first helping to provide the military and then his request to the non-governmental animal rescue organization kharkiv iryna hnatiuk will tell you more about this . bruce perry takes the dog out of the vet clinic for a walk. 75-year-old volunteers came to kharkiv from canada. bruce takes care of the animals brought from the hot spots of ukraine . bring inside so walks 6-7 dogs every day bruce says everything is fine and for me it
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makes me feel better they are special you know all dogs go to heaven not all people go to heaven oh oh oh usa says i decided to go to ukraine as soon as i heard the news about the start of a full-scale invasion. i wanted to go to the front and was refused twice, that's why i was upset. i have four dogs in canada. with these puppies, where are the clinics of the non -governmental animal rescue organization kharkiv in which
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bruce helps treat 82 animals, says the representative of the organization, yaryna vintoniuk, this help is extremely important, how much he reverently does his relationship with animals to small puppies and this is what they need most to take care of animals. bruce plans to take care of the animals by april. he says later he wants to settle in ukraine and go to the motherland. grandfather was born in ternopil oblast. music and organized various cultural events. today, pavlo converted his studio into a workshop for sewing pharmacy summaries for the military. pavlo told my colleagues from in the first days of the war, okhtyr was attacked from airplanes, as a result, critical
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infrastructure objects were destroyed, residential areas were destroyed, and many residents of okhtyr left the city in the first weeks of the full-scale invasion. on february 24, the young man was involved in the popularization of street culture in the city, wrote music and organized various cultural events in his art space. today pavlo converted his studio into a workshop for sewing pharmacy summaries for the military, it will soon be a year in which a full-scale war is going on, and how was this year for you, well, frankly, honestly , it seems productive to me. and this is when you understand that your actions, your involvement affects such an important thing as the acceleration of victory. conditionally, we all want to speed it up, this is a very good motivator, and the more you work if
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there is peacetime, conditionally speaking, peacetime before a full-scale invasion of timog somewhere in prakhadurit and the chinese chambers of the minister, then now you do not give yourself this exercise and first of all war you are staying in the city of okhtyrka, was it a conscious decision at first, or were there any other possible thoughts in this direction? this is a completely conscious decision. well, i think that i am needed here and there . in the summer, i left for a day or two. and started volunteering . please tell me about your first steps in this direction , how was such a decision made, as i understand it, it was completely conscious and who helped you in the first stages. was it a self-organized team or were they people who simply turned to you with their help somehow, you know, there was no such thing that now i will be doing volunteering there, no, it was just that the situation forced us
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, together with the team there, with the people with whom we were there before, we organized parties there, we did all this, well, that's what the patients need pass yes, yes, these are people from the cultural party , let's call it, and so, before the full-scale invasion, they wrote as volunteers, for a while, we are like this. yes, we will go to the store and buy the first month of the war. you will not find an open store in the store . found something, friends passed it on, who evacuated there from the west of ukraine, there or from the center. well, more west, pavlo, i remember many local businessmen went to a meeting and opened shops under shelling. in the first months in the city, they somehow provoked people to
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give up or, on the contrary, motivated them to move further in the direction of help. there was no, no , no, they did not give up. revolutions and when, well, at low altitudes, well, it’s straight. i think that i sound like terrible that i didn’t hear there a couple of times, i was lucky after that, but to say that they are like that, well, i wo n’t do anything. and then what if we, you know, it seems to me that if you have at least one percent out of a hundred to change something, it is better to use it than to sit and wait at all. can you say that your mayor or okhtyrka city of heroes was the first full-fledged project during the war? please tell me more about it as such an idea arose and what was the priority his goal was to have a tablet in maryna's, she had something special about it
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