tv [untitled] January 23, 2023 5:30am-6:01am EET
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let's talk about whether these statements can encourage other countries that have not yet announced such intentions that they could theoretically hand over the tanks after the first president is in fact so other countries are being pulled together as it turned out with petri there how did it happen with the republic of kazakhstan? how did it happen with the artillery and the rest ? get we can get more and more in the world there are more tanks uh thousands is a lot it would make it possible to compensate all our losses for this war for this phase and not and definitely and qualitatively increase the potential for a possible large-scale contact in the last few months we have heard
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many different names of tanks, i mean us people who are not initiated into this business, these are leopards , british challengers, abrams, and also french leklepkas . and challenge well, i chose the prospects well, here are the questions: well, we are not in a very good position when we choose, most likely, the whole thing goes to the fact that it will be german leopards of some old version , and maybe some small number of challengers, and maybe some number in in the future of the abrams, there are those in the world that could pass to us and them, and most
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accordingly , if i had a choice, i would choose them. some the number will be dropped just as it was with armed air defense equipment and other titanka systems that we can theoretically and actually possibly get, how qualitatively different are they from what is in russia well, this is a completely different technique eh, but it is not so important ttx on paper wikipedia as people who are fighting on them and who are being used, because this is a decisive factor in the effectiveness of the use of any type of weapons or equipment, that is, the skill of the ukrainian military can guarantee let's say that any western tank prevails on its own the capabilities of the ukrainian military can reduce the advantages in performance characteristics, that is, it depends primarily on the people who use it, i.e., plan to use it and who directly implement it on the battlefield
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, so training is always important in principle, and it is no less necessary to invest in people than simply in iron tanks - this is one of those types of weapons that the ukrainians really expected , can tanks really somehow qualitatively change the course of new ones, and let's not forget that we received and are receiving modernized soviet tanks, various and non-modernized and modernized different tanks but we have received, are receiving and will continue to receive tanks, it is a different matter that we are talking about western tanks because the soviet fleet is exhaustive and it is the first , the second point is that it plus or minus corresponds to the soviet modernized tank plus or minus in some ways it is better, in some ways it can be worse for you , some things, but western tanks are a new , uh, new level, i don't know, the new height
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of western aid is how it was with skymars , that's how it was with manpads, stingers before a full-scale invasion, it's how it was with javelin in the 18th year. it seems that these are all new stages that increase our status as an ally , a partner, as a country that can transfer or sell one or another equipment, weapons, technology, and this is one of the stages before that , we talked a lot about bmp, finally the americans give 50 scrap eh m2-2 odesa again 50 the first step further i think other countries will step up and we will get as it will open the window of western bmps the same with tanks what they can qualitatively change on the battlefield stop the russians here and help stop the russian offensive or develop ukrainian contrast that is, it can be said that this is such a decisive weapon for not having any
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weapons other than nuclear as decisive, well , we do not have nuclear weapons, look, i also wanted to ask you about, against the background of these latest statements , not so much about tanks, but about the transmission in general ukraine already has heavy armored vehicles . there are already statements that this line is expanding. what our partners will give us. we also see the strengthening of the air defense system. what are the chances that in 2023 ukraine will receive from partners everything in the volume it really needs, what are the chances, so zero, er, our needs are ten times greater than the capabilities of western ukraine, it will not be helped, it is not there now and it will not be, well, this year and the next , the same volumes that we need and they are simply not there in some places in the world because the world has not waged
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such a war for many, many years and decades. yes, on the other hand, it can be the other way around , because each chest has its own problems and each chest has its own limitations, if possible, help, well, conditionally. if you have 100 tanks, it is unlikely that you will give 100. you need to keep something for yourself, so you are there 10-20 40 50 you can transfer and the rest - no or if you can produce there 10,000 projectiles per month, then obviously you will not be able to transfer or sell more than 10,000 in ukraine for the deployment of production, sometimes it takes years to compensate for the production for your armed forces for the usa and european
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countries also need years ago, weapons are destroyed, lost, broken quickly, and this imbalance is created for a long time, and this imbalance cannot be corrected, just take it and take it somewhere, you say that there is a possible shortage of certain types of weapons or ammunition . western media began to write about it, that it is starting to be felt more and more about what specific types of weapons and ammunition are in short supply. where can we have problems? well, artillery projectiles, in general, ammunition for all soviet systems, for example , an operational-tactical missile or a tactical missile complex, dot dot o e among the nato countries, only bulgaria now has it and that is not clear because of the modernized missile or not
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as a result is unclear here we have the 19th missile brigade, it is firing at them or has already fired at the last missiles, and what will happen next. well, then they need to be armed with western equipment , and we understand that this soviet equipment has served its purpose and it has disappeared from the market. 27 and the history of the ammunition is running out, the barrels are worn out, there are no prospects for restoring or setting up production for ukraine, no one will do this from an economic point of view , that is why this technique is dying in many positions, and somewhere there we can switch to western technique, well, in the sauna, for example, barrel artillery for 155 caliber 105 caliber and we will be somewhere well, it will simply die out naturally because the world is changing everything soviet weapons will end this probably the last great war of the soviet cause how can ukraine prepare or well get out of this situation what
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at some point we may find ourselves without that weaponry that plays an important role on the battlefield hmm and we have been in such a situation for a long time and well , we somehow fight well, somehow then we will continue to fight in my chain cause and effect relationships says that if at some point we won't have enough to fight with, we've had enough since the spring, so we might be forced to come to some kind of agreement on some kind of conditional truce or not, this is again ukraine's position, we can, it can't, we can continue to fight. we have a large shortage of ammunition in the troops and not only ammunition and the intensity of the war we are waging, it is obviously not felt in kyiv, but it requires a much larger amount of everything than we have and may be in the short or medium term, and this cannot
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be solved at the expense of what we say our western partners there are stepping up to provide us with weapons or ammunition in the general world, the americans wanted to give there, i don’t know , half of their armored vehicles. of course, this problem has been solved, but it does not happen because when they become something, they give their own and they have to compensate themselves for it, and part of the funds that we see in some sums there are 3 billion dollars, these are not the funds with which they buy for ukraine, they are the funds with which they buy for america from an american manufacturer, while transferring to us what they have them now in the army or at storage bases, that is, they took the javelin into ukraine, gave it to themselves, and bought a new one for themselves, and even put it in the old place, that is, it works very often and in many points, that is why there are also certain limits there, it is not yes it's just that america doesn't want to or they have their own limitations, because they
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can and to whom they can, and the limitations of how many of them should always remain in their armed forces because ukraine is not the only point of conflict on the world map and other regions where there is an american military where there is, there may be some aggravation and they must be ready to count everywhere, that is, in every country, their interest or russia and the few partners on which it can now count in matters of armaments, e-e is depleted in proportion to of how the west is being depleted, well, russia is smaller , weaker, economically, technologically, the west. in this regard, it is more obvious that this measurement of potentials is taking place on our territory, and we are paying for it for this time , while the west will finally push us there. well, we so we die in this situation, if it is good
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that the west is stronger there, but well, at the cost of our lives, i will ask you about the weapons and we will move on to the business of come back alive eh, here are the tanks with which we started our conversation. it was one of those types of weapons that on at the beginning of a full-scale invasion in the west, they said, well, it is impossible there, or it is not realistic, at least they said publicly, you may have said something and something else, can we expect that by the end of this year we will hear announcements about some other types of weapons that, well, now they tell you that they are real i would hope at the political level about aviation, but i really hoped that it would be last year, somewhere closer to the new year, but unfortunately, the west, so far, the west has given petri, but they are not ready to give a fighter or are ready. but again, the soviets, and unfortunately for them there are still quite a lot in nato countries and to whom
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to give the 16s instead of mig-29 or su-25 as in the same bulgaria or su-17 or su-22 as in poland so that they hand them over to us, that is, for us this is also a decision well, or we will have nothing to do, at least something. that is, it is better than nothing. but again, in the long run, it is better for us to start mastering american planes, and again, the story is that if the americans drag on, we start going to other countries, and i will not be surprised if it turns out later that we will get six bursts four gripens there there are a bunch of soviet f16 planes and some more some more some more we will again have a big zoo all over the place and this is not very good in the second, well, about the fund, come back alive, and have you already summed up the results of 2022, how much did you manage to legalize the donation of a in
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we have this information on our website, it is publicly available, you can go to see about 6 billion there without taking into account cryptocurrencies, what is the main expenditure currently used for? berektar tb-2 complex consisting of three aircraft, landing gear, munitions and everything necessary for work there, $16.5 million, unmanned ukrainian-made pd-2 complexes, 11 pieces with all-wheel drive bus , torso cars, this is somewhere in the region of $10 million , 26 stork complexes, 100 also of ukrainian production, now there is a big project with 25 shark unmanned complexes, also of ukrainian production, on the same four-wheel drive vehicles from the torso
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, long-armed mortars, which we are currently assembling and implementing can be seen there since march already minometers, i hope they will start arriving in the army, that is, such large projects. there was a little plus, about half of all, not half of 40% of all costs, this is the so-called flow of copters, thermal imagers, radio stations, monitors, computers, printers, cables, metal detectors, suits of sappers , and there are several thousand other positions in 2022- why did your fund receive a license to purchase lethal weapons? some of the types of weapons that you have already bought thanks to this license have been listed . in terms of lethal weapons, for example, you and i mentioned tanks, you can buy a tank without problems, the question is only in funds , that is, if the ukrainians threw themselves into the fund, return
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alive to the tank, in principle, you could buy it without any problems at all, and from time to time such a request appears as to buy a tank but one tank costs about two plus million dollars with these funds you can buy a lot more something more necessary 1 million dollars 40 million uah well this is plus or minus 40-120 mortars 40-120 mm - this is 6 mm batteries - this is a complete rearmament one a full-fledged full-blooded mechanized brigade, the efficiency of six-mortar batteries will be ten times more on the battlefield than from one tantum, is it possible to buy a tank, is it possible , is there any great added efficiency in this, no, if we are talking about 10 tanks, 20 tanks, 100 tanks, that is another matter history, because then you
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can 10 tanks, this is conditional, a tank company, you can talk about the fact that some infantry brigade can get a tank in the gate, why not in some areas of the front, you can strengthen our positions, yes, that means losses will be less, something else for example, on the other hand, there is a question of time , how long will it take you to install them, are they ready or will it be in a year? well, if in a year, it is not very effective to invest money. if it will be there, they are already ready. they are fast, they are complex. and they are always making a decision about this or that purchase, you are constantly looking at this and that. is it better to buy this? is it better to buy a pick-up truck with this money or just copters or communications or other weapons and you constantly connect it with something compares to make a decision which is maximally balanced, yes, regarding
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whom the fund helps, come back alive. when i was preparing for our interview, i watched the story of radio svoboda for march 4, but how the fund worked in these conditions of the first days of the full-scale invasion, and i remember that one of the moments that struck me was the fact that you, in particular, equipped the fighters of the alpha special unit, is this still going on, is it going on now, well , a little less than the measure, because there are actually not so many of them, that is, there are several dozen people per region, eh, there may be a little more, and so be it there will be a thousand people against the background of the armed forces, there are 700-800 thousand of them, there are not many of them and the need for them, well, you understand the ratio there, 700,000, here, 1,000, but they need very specific and equipment, uh, well, the best. less, but well, the requests are coming in, we are closing them down,
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for example, you are defaming the alpha unit, you are helping intelligence officers, we are asking if it is a normal situation that the state cannot provide such units, which are considered elite units by many people, they are very much like that there wonderful people and buzzing in alfa and in the sbu. the problem is that the state can’t do everything to everyone at the same time . well, it just can’t be the same there. the people there are the same, but the agreement there takes three months to sign the implementation. there are another six months of production and delivery. well, the state can’t. maybe we are not competitors of the state. we help the state, we make excuses where the state needs more time or it does not cope there because well, because it cannot or somewhere there is no competence somewhere there is no skills somewhere the state closes with big strokes big chunks well that is, conditionally speaking, the state provides everyone with fuel, but at the same time, the state
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cannot control that there is a fuel pump in every car, conditionally , either that there was a car or that there was a car, yes, and someday, of course, the state will close this issue someday, but not yet and it is closed by people, this is normal because, well, because the war turns out like this, last time you were with us in the summer, and you told us then, wow, in my colleague, what i will quote, the state does not support volunteer work in bila from the point of view of importing goods military assignment and dual assignment is from abroad, is this situation still relevant? that is, on the one hand, you are substituting the shoulders of the state, on the other hand, the state does not contribute to the fact that you can, the state also cannot quickly or does not want to quickly change the entire bureaucratic machine which has been created there for decades, in fact, it does not only apply to volunteer work. well, it is banal
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personnel accounting, because we have a personnel organization of the news service there - that's how it is, and every week i sign such a set of papers that are purely formal, but they have to be, because they correspond to some norms of 1992 and so on. in general, our state is quite bureaucratic and we talk a lot about digitalization, but a lot of things are still paper and well, just formal, and we as an employer, as an organization, an institution in all of this, we have to answer the same for external economic activity, there was the closure of currency control, uh, a lot of everything that we did. faced with all this, well, there is a question, how is it , there is a desire for the state service of expert control to work faster, for some restrictions of the
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state to be canceled for the period of the war, at least for the state to support the private producer not only with sympathy, but also with opportunities for his work, production and ensuring well a week ago, the minister of digital transformation, mykhailo fedorov, was sitting in the same chair. we remembered him, in particular, for the story with the t-shirts , so recently there was such a loud discussion in social networks between volunteers and the minister of defense and our minister of digital transformation has assured that he and the rest of the cabinet of ministers are doing everything possible to facilitate the delivery to ukraine of what is needed by the ukrainian army. is there any progress at least in this situation? gives wishful thinking as reality well, something is happening, let's say
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yes, hmm, has what we would like to have been achieved, no, it has not been achieved, is the state trying to do something, is it trying to do something? you were recently at the rivne nuclear power plant, so you there they were watching the rivne nuclear plant, for christ the head of the come back alive fund is going to the rivne npp, the question arises how the come back alive fund can help the rivne npp and what its needs may be nothing, but with forces and means that protect and defend it is possible a lot. as an opportunity for the area of the second front, let's call it that, and we proactively try to cover the needs of those parts that are there on a basic level. accordingly, we were not only at the rivne npp and there in many other
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parts and units located in this region, uh, talk to people, look at the real state of affairs, well, it’s one thing when you look at it here in kyiv on a map, it’s another thing when they show you the working map of the battalion commander and you can assess it on the ground, i won’t ask if you think it’s likely that the russians will attack from belarus, no one knows, but these scenarios are possible, or it will happen, no one knows if we need to prepare for it. in my opinion, yes, that’s why we invest in this i wanted to clarify the direction of part of the resource regarding the results for 2022. who are the main individuals or legal entities that support your fund, or are we talking about the individual donations of me and my colleagues that are transferred to the fund? is this still the case?
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some medium and large business, you can first of all go to the site and see all these receipts in a kind of real-time mode, er, and look there from the average conditionally there to it in a month or six months. well, there are different filters, you can choose and watch where, where, which payment system, and that's all. it's completely open. generally speaking, it's mostly ordinary people. it's just that someone throws a small sum. but there are a lot of them. a business with which we have been working for a relatively long time, or relatively powerfully, top-1 - this is a ukrainian it-cluster, probably all major ukrainian it experts, it experts, we work with them and they provide funds for joint projects, joint
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collaborations for administration, for individual projects there are a lot of separate areas, it-cluster is something that we started to develop the year before last , and last year it opened up as much as possible. its advantage is that it is less dependent on the economic downturn in the country. medium, small , big, i don’t know, from her type, there, to , to, and there’s just such a huge list . we have it on our website in the partners section, eh, or partners, eh , well, they are included in the same way. a non-lethal story with each one is separate separate how is it a separate collaboration separate story and so on there are questions do you have a cat bun e what a
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real star on twitter she already has as many as 28,000 followers and you also involve her in raising funds for the fund returning communication, is she not against a cat? well, so far, not so much. am i right? i understood that she appeared at your place right at the beginning of a full-scale who took her away at the beginning of march, well, they were abandoned in the area of the forest in the brovary direction and them there left and it so happened that since february 24 we have been engaged in everything from i don't know, from pointing some missile systems there to transporting animals, people, transferring some fodder in food, delivering medicines to a hippopotamus, and something else and something else, well, that is, in the literal sense, a hippopotamus in the literal sense yes, er, er,
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well, that is, the spectrum of activity was as strange as possible, and in this chaos, our communicator, somewhere between the evacuation of cats and hares, or i don't know, kings from somewhere, brought me a cat and said now it's your cat, and you didn't resist e- well, i couldn't actually vote but yes, your cat bun on twitter constantly complains that you are not at home or that you do not spend time with her, so i wish you a victory for ukraine so that you have more time to deal with the affairs of the foundation at a calm pace and spend more time with the cat thank you very much, mr. taras, for this conversation. thank you , this is the time of each of us. protect your era . nivroku is the time of the introduction of customs, and for
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