tv [untitled] January 23, 2023 3:30pm-4:01pm EET
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deputy of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on the integration of ukraine into the eu, former head of the security service of ukraine, glory to ukraine, valentina, we congratulate you as a hero , glory, i congratulate you well, fresh news has arrived , so to speak, from the hungarian front. so hungary seems to have refused to block 500 million euros of military aid from on the part of the european union for ukraine this is reported by svoboda correspondent kard dzozwiak quoting in the end hungary announced today during the meeting of eu foreign affairs ministers in brussels that not will block the next tranche of eu military aid for ukraine. so, as far as we understand, even hungary has already moved away from the blockade, so to speak, but the history of the machines remains. on the agenda, we already understand that the discussion in the teeth has already
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tied up, and i'm sorry that we are back to we are adding you to it because it is in fact extremely important and therefore the dynamics of the last days you already see the light at the end of this tank tunnel concerns the supply of non-techniques to the armed forces of ukraine, specifically tanks as of today you you know, we have the solution of great britain, 14 challenger tanks, two, we, ukraine, and our armed forces, with the full support of the ukrainian parliament, are now negotiating training for our servicemen , including on leopard 2 tanks, manufactured in germany, but produced by germany . and there are such tanks in several countries - nato members, so now we are dividing the issue into two parts, first - prepare crews, ukrainians from among the ukrainian armed forces. these are mechanics, commanders of machines, this is what any machine does not drive or shoot without.
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the second component is just today, in particular, there is a meeting of the eu council of the council of the european union at the level of foreign ministers and the head of the foreign policy of the euro. currently, there is a discussion going on about which country will be the first to provide leopard-2 tanks and for the direction of ukrainian crews. not only the leopard-2, now france, you know, yesterday the president of this country said about it and is also considering the possibility of providing leclerc tanks, this is also very good for today and very modern optics are on such french tanks, more specifically, we are now together with the armed forces of ukraine, we are solving the issue of training the crews enough to form a tank corps or a tank brigade necessary for the maneuverable offensive of our armed forces on the modern non-technique of one
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of the nato member countries. i predict that it will be several countries that will supply modern tanks for our armed forces of ukraine and about leopard-2, believe me, in the coming days there will be an agreement, and this agreement will be in favor of ukraine, that is, such tanks will also be supplied, thank you. what is at the level of heads ministry of foreign affairs it will be interesting to hear the head of the german foreign ministry, elena berbork, who a little earlier in an interview with a french television channel noted that germany will not put sticks in the wheels if, for example, poland sends the titans that belong to it, we are talking about a leopard -2 there is still news for ukraine, eh, the government of norway has initiated a closed discussion on the possibility of transferring leopard-2 tanks to ukraine, eh, these tanks are both in
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active service and in storage, and at the same time, the norwegians have been discussing the possibility of transferring for quite a long time precisely on south korean tanks. that is, it can be a mutually beneficial story and they will be updated and we will get what we need. well, but i would like to understand the volumes of all the good that our various partners will gradually provide us with again. will this be enough for the specific advantage on on the battlefield in the event of our offensive operation, we are professionals and realists with you and we immediately say that it will be the first company of tankov, then there will be a battalion , and then we will talk about such a brigade of the ukrainian armed forces, but the key question and the supply of such tanks, but also the training of our servicemen and crews for such modern tanks, i emphasize once again that training is now in the first place and in those countries
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where it is possible and necessary to train our e-e servicemen in new tankers on new tanks, nato tanks, this should be started now because this training lasts at least 2-3 months. understand this modern laundry , modern weapons, modern guns, modern optics , modern guidance . storage of soviet t-72 tanks there and without counting them threw them to the east of our country to the front no, we are now receiving breakfasts and will train our armed forces on them so that such a group of armored brigades will appear about them at least the end of march, the beginning april - it is already necessary to train our servicemen to work on such tanks , and you mentioned some countries that are still arguing, well, it's no secret, now
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in the council of the eu on a mini-equal place in foreign affairs, the main discussion is between the polish the minister of foreign affairs and the german minister of foreign affairs ms. anna lena berkova, but the discussion is as much about supplying or not supplying ukraine as it is about what and who will replace the tanks and where they will buy replacement leopard-2s that will transfer tanks to ukraine, such countries as, in particular denmark, poland and others, it is clear that the german side is interested in the leopard-2, but it is not a fact that poland, denmark or the other countries you mentioned. by the way, norway , including a nato member country, will continue to buy the leopard-2, this is how it goes an internal discussion which, in my opinion, ukraine should not interfere with us, the main thing is the result and this result. look , estonia demonstrated what an example for all eu member states it simply gave all its
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155 mm guns, all of them gave such guns to the armed forces of ukraine. denmark gave 19 caesars to ukraine. norway in the near future, it will also transfer tanks and additional weapons and shells, you already know that collective uh, that collective decision, the collective position within nato and the european union that will change and allow to move on to all countries, including germany, yes, valentin. this is an extremely important indicator. at the same time, there were also two extremely symbolic and important visits, of course, they do not fit into one system, so to speak, because people of different calibers, but they arrived in kyiv and held talks, in particular, it is about the head of the cia william burns and it is about the former prime minister of great britain boris johnson and accordingly what do you think
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their visits mean, what could be sewn into this case well, let's talk about boris johnson let's start this, a great friend of ukraine, and now there are very serious talks, we are talking about it, including with the european parliament as the ukrainian parliament. i take part in such negotiations because mr. johnson himself is seriously considered as the future e-e head and head of nato, the nato council and the north atlantic alliance to replace pope stoltenberg, who is currently the chairman of nato, this is a very serious position, this is a very serious effort, and i think that ukraine is just now a more serious subject of foreign policy already inside and there is a senate now has serious weight and we hope that mr. johnson's chances are very high and will only grow, it is in our interests because he knows the
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situation very well, he knows very well the russian aggression against ukraine from the first days, that is, on february 4 of last year and the second now inside of the european union and nato after the latest decision of the european parliament on the creation of a special tribunal on russian war crimes and where the huge legal preparatory work and today's by the way, the meeting of the council of ministers of foreign affairs the european union, including, will be discussed without a complex of legal issues related to the launch of such a special tribunal on the crimes of russia in ukraine as soon as possible and the launch of the prosecutor's office, which will be specially created and will work for this special tribunal, as for other conversations and positions, i think it is necessary wait, when today's meeting of the minister of foreign affairs of the council of the
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european union is over, we will find out more. quite regularly, and this time he is updating data on the real state of affairs with weapons of mass destruction on the territory of russia, this is the second time - this is what concerns additional assistance in matters of cyber security, cyber security of satellite technologies for the defense of ukraine, for the armed forces of ukraine, i will say so without specifying that not to divulge such serious things that such officials as mr. burns are brought to ukraine as a derekacer for the armed forces of ukraine well, but uh, something like that in which case ukrainian society and possibly ukrainian politicians, according to data from the washington post, could bring william burns, in particular, noted that despite the fact that the united
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states and western partners continue to support ukraine, support for aid to ukraine among parts of the electorate in the united states is decreasing somewhat, well, i just wonder why it was important for the director of the cia to convey this information in ukrainian to the top political leadership. i worked for a long time in washington as the consul general of ukraine and i know i work in the american including journalism. so tampost journalists simply interview quite a lot of people, including officials of various administrations, deep corps, and so on. i think that this is the case when your post there made its own assumptions. moreover, in the united states itself, yesterday's information, which is quite popular , is fresher this is on social media, as the americans themselves counted among american citizens. how much does every american tax payer spend per month to support ukraine against russian aggression? do you know
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how much $14 a month is a tax payer ? american and this is not an amount at all, not money for any american, that is why russian propaganda does not promote and does not think that they will be able to deceive someone. and you know how to spread negativity in american society. successfully and skillfully know how to calculate their own taxes , i repeat 14 dollars a month, these are only taxpayers, er, those who pay taxes, and this is all that goes to support the armed forces of ukraine, and the total amount, by the way, is an impressive 27 billion dollars. here are comparable things for you and real statistics, real numbers, mr. valentin, well, i would like to ask you very delicately about the so-called case of the deceased kiriev, yes, a person who, according to
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the management of the band, cooperated with the gur well, and then under strange, if not mysterious , at least circumstances, she died, was she buried with so-called military honors or will we ever find out the truth about what and how happened in this case, yes, the investigation will be finished, it is now being conducted by the state bureau of investigation into the murders of citizen kyriev for the second time an answer must be given who gave the order to kill this citizen, the third with information already from open sources, which was made public by the head of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense and journalists and experts, it is known that the citizen of kyriev is indeed a citizen of kiriev , in any case, this is what the ministry of defense of ukraine claims, whether representatives were an employee or someone or an agent of the military intelligence of the ministry of defense of ukraine, and therefore this is the murder that took place
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. this is the murder of a full-time or part-time employee of the ministry of defense of ukraine. here the things that i can say as of today. by the way, the article that appeared in the oster journal was published by a rather serious american city investigator. i know that he interviewed and met with hundreds of different people in kyiv, and i think that he came very close to the truth . -e telling or explaining all the circumstances of this case now the word is for dr. on the investigation and then there should be a trial. i am sure that the trial. events, but this does not mean that they should be hidden, in my opinion, it is precisely cleansing and such public courts should cleanse authorities
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and prevent further crimes. let's give the investigators the opportunity to carry out all the necessary examinations. i doubt that it will be possible. you know, it's covered up, especially by the way, as far as i know, american journalists are still actively working, and these are not the latest materials. the investigation that comes out in the hands of the american, that is, the world press, and then the ukrainian one. i think there will be more journalistic investigations, so i call on the authorities of ukraine to be serious enough to investigate and punish those who are really guilty. well , against the background of this story, the head of the security service of ukraine, vasyl malyuk, and the head of the gurmo kyrylo budanov held a joint working meeting for effective and coordinated communication between the two departments. kireev, whom the sbu called a traitor , the leaders assure that the ukrainian special services
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are united in their desire to win over the enemy, we work in close cooperation, they say that they jointly develop new special operations and successfully implement them. it looks like a good photo to me. thank you very much. member of parliament of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on integration of ukraine with the eu and former head of the security service of ukraine such an extremely interesting and productive conversation. thank you, mr. valentina for her, and we will inform you about the most important thing. so, the news from poland. poland will ask germany for permission to transfer leopard tanks to ukraine, but will provide tanks in any case, this is what the prime minister of poland, mateuch morawiecki, said. this is an extremely serious and strong statement no well, it seems to me that all this looks like a polonaise dance with the appropriate movements, so polite to each other we will of course
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ask you, but we will do it our way, you do n't take offense at us, it's beautiful i think well, that's just not how the so-called a diplomatic condition, that is, we see that the space for the use of diplomatic language has already been exhausted, we understand how much time and blood has flowed since the moment of the large phase of the full-scale invasion of the russian federation into ukraine well, accordingly, no one will be able to wrap anything in diplomatic wrappers, that is, european diplomatic vocabulary and european actions will reach a fundamentally new level if we talk about another significant event in germany , almost two months have passed and can this history, that is, this complex used, well, shooting down, for example, russian missiles somewhere on the way to poland . that is, in ukraine, we will ask ivan krychevskyi, an expert from defense express
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, who is already in touch with us. ivan congratulates you. glory to ukraine, ivan, you are with us. good day to the heroes . good day. yes. good day to you. glory to the heroes. the patriot that germany promised to provide to poland finally arrived where he is supposed to protect the sky. a piece of our ukrainian sky and can this happen at all, it is unlikely that the poles, the germans there, when they already agreed on the final placement of the petrovsky calculations in the very systems on the territory of poland, that they set the task of purposefully covering some segment of the land of our land, although of course there are some well, let's say so the width of 30 km of our border should be captured there, the matter is different
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, let's start with the fact that if the poles somehow managed to convince the germans that they sent not two batteries, but three patriots, that would not be enough it is even more important that the germans sent these bacteria to protect an important logistics node in poland, one of the important logistical sanctions in zamostia and near it, this is from what was called open sources , precisely because active supplies of weapons to ukraine are soon to go there, and precisely so that the russians would not even think of attacking this node, which is so close to the border with ukraine, with their cruise missiles, because you know, in principle, it seems strange that if on the one hand, russian propagandists and their, let’s say, service personnel already a voice there counts and, you know, declares the figures for armored vehicles that we will receive two times, two times more than what we expect , even leopards on our territory can be imagined there. well, it is surprising that they have not yet started to threaten there again, well, how are they there
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they usually like there about legal power and the like and the like, in the end you know the most important point here is that germany finally delivered the patriots to poland and the calculations are at least because, thank god , article five of the nato charter works because if hmm, well, it is more important that this is the story of the transfer of the petrovites. this is not about the transfer of weapons, it is about the fact that germany transferred its air defense forces there to strengthen the anti-aircraft defense of poland , and it turns out that in fact we should activate this article of the fifth oil and that is , it took two months to physically send troops to germany and poland there. well, because on the one hand, the germans were fighting something there, on the other hand, the poles obviously put their demands on who the axis should be, because according to logic, the germans first they wanted these complexes to be subordinated to the nato air defense center united there, and as a result, the poles held that they
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convinced the polish army and then their superiors, well, that is, they spent two months on such things, and well, let's hope that when we have to do this again in practice apply the fifth article of the nato statute. the parties will somehow react much faster than 2 months, yes. well, of course, we wanted everything to happen much faster than it is happening, in particular, it is about we are already supplied with machine tools, god is with them, i think that the rain of the germans, not the poles, but the americans, but there is also a history of weapons, transporters, infantry fighting vehicles, and accordingly, how long will it take the american bradley and other modifications to reach us? in this story , everything is good, moreover, in addition to that, in addition to the german marders and british brands, we also received, we will receive, according to the results of rammstein, approximately another 100 mp-1, there is some just one of the moments that were
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missed because that's how rammstein is forever, for some reason, it is associated with such a bright e-e. well, it’s just actually a refusal. what was perceived as an actual refusal to give us the leopard-2, but she interrupted everything, but after the poles came out on this, they said that they would prepare a pale tank for us, and that’s how it turned out that it was not the tank brigade that poland would literally tear away from itself there, because there are still 40 tanks and 72 approximately 100 bmp-1s, and this is in addition to the fact that, after all, the germans with the marders are progressing as they should and they will arrive on time and in the americans were saved by the fact that the case is progressing as it is we must already have the military, let’s tell you that our military has already started streaming in social networks as they are training in practice to carry out assault actions with the support of bradley, so here it is just right here , don’t hesitate, don’t worry, on the one hand, these machines will be delivered in the time frame that we it is necessary well, because the appropriate calculations for the spring have already been built on their basis, on the other hand, well, it is clear that no one there will arrange a couple there, you know, orchestras, a red carpet, well
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, purely because this equipment must be delivered it is hidden purely so that the enemy does not interfere with this, well, the main thing is that it was possible, so to speak, to hide the reinforcement of this or that part of our front, mr. ivan, if we are talking about the east of ukraine, about the hellish battles under soledar under bakhmut and so on, we talked with a fighter who is there. well, he says that another portion of the russian airborne forces was thrown in, but not of the quality that they took, so to speak, in the initial phase of the full-scale invasion that you are now seeing in the extremely bloody donetsk campaign. well, from what i see, we have entered a phase positional confrontation, and there is reason to expect that this phase will still continue, because well, on the one hand, let's say so from
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what is in open sources and stated , we have certain problems with the delivery of ammunition from the side of the celebrants. there is no problem with the delivery of manpower and that is why, for example, the figure is stated that the russians have already lost under bakhmut about 10,000 of their so -called personnel soldiers there. well, about 30,000 of those mobilized were nodding off on the river, and they also have problems with the delivery of ammunition and other it is necessary for the conduct of hostilities, in the end, what is even relevant to actual information on the strength of the gift, well, even if the russians can declare that the majority of the settlement is in their hands, after all, the bush and part of the building there are held by our defenders . well, unlike the previous similar ones cases where our troops had to retreat from more or less significant population centers, hmm, you know, the positions are located literally behind the population center at such non-dominant heights, accordingly, the russians have no prospects there
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to advance further, unfortunately, it is very terrible that we have entered such a story, which, judging by everything , has already in principle surpassed even what is called the verdun meat grinder, well, that is, an example of a terrible slaughter, and you are such losses for both sides. well, on the other hand, it is just in for some reason, it is also in our hands that the russians , even in terms of military personnel, they are very much in favor of those who entered on february 24, 2022, respectively, if they were still capable of some offensive actions there, it turns out to be the maximum bar that is now before the russian military sets itself up to wage so-called battles of attrition, that is, when they assume in advance that they will have heavy losses, unlikely or ever. and what is here, well, on the other hand, well, the fact that even our military and political leadership declared that we have losses under bakhmut, relative to the enemy, one to one tenth, after all, we also suffer losses, and this can be approximately scaled by taking
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a ratio of one to ten. preparations for the spring offensive. please tell me, mr. ivan. we talk a lot about the quality of the people of our enemies, who are fighting in a given direction, and we would like to understand what technical resources are available in the russian federation . and at a certain moment it looked like the following ... soledar soledars were occupiers, but they were in no hurry to drag there. for example, heavy equipment , what kind of symptom is this ? it can be broken from the appropriate heights, or maybe they lack this technique , we can say so, and there is nothing to delay , there is nothing here. here you can even draw a
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historical parallel to how it looked in practice in the soviet union, this maximum prodon, well, when there women still offend roughly speaking, when in the second half of 1943, the red army had an acute shortage of armored vehicles after the first, these arrows are leading , well, by our modern standards . it has already entered, if there were any stories recorded there in december that they are moving forward, what are they, or wagners, all of them are armored there, so that under bakhmut, even what is there, for example, even in the zaporizhzhia direction , it is already becoming quite episodic in them. it is difficult to say that they don't have any armored vehicles there at all, but why didn't they start using armored vehicles less often, because it's banal enough, it's already a fact that the russians have already reached the stage that they should have
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put these tanks of export modification and 90s, and instead of putting videos of these the tanks were given to the wagners there, well, and apparently the wagners even lost such machines, that’s why they somehow have them and everything turns out to be what what if why do the authorities bet on such a large mass of manpower because from then on they start having problems even if the russians there are still showing off that we can release the restrictions on the batch of their tank gunners like the t-90m or some other armored vehicles. yes, mr. ivan. 155-caliber howitzers, i don't remember exactly the number of those howitzers. well, what are those howitzers in your opinion, or can they already be used? does this require any additional training for our artists, in principle
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, there were 24 fh70s that the armed forces of ukraine received before that as it turned out, in fact, from the detail, why exactly is it mobile, because from the outside it looks like a towed howitzer, but it has what allows you to move between positions at low speed, well, that is, it increases, roughly speaking, they live with tabletop artillery especially in the conditions of the use of these weeded lancets before this, the armed forces of ukraine received similar howitzers, i believe that it was sold to us in history, but it turned out that they were still given to italy as the country that produces these howitzers, accordingly, our artillerymen mastered this or this one long ago, back in september 2022 the general staff reported that it seems to be preparing a new batch of anti-lerists, all i have is fh-70. well, it looks like they were preparing it under estonia, because it is for sure. by the way, the fourth thing to note is that at the same time , 36 more soviet howitzers de-30 were given to us. caliber 22 122 mm, it turns out that estonia
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essentially gave us the entire history of ka60 table artillery and this will allow the formation of at least 4-5 batteries, looking at how not to blur and why the situation actually emphasized that we are giving everything because they now have it, it turns out that it remains in service only 13 self-propelled howitzers 9 southern ukrainian production and this is due to the fact that it gave us so many barrels to develop rifles thank you smart place to invest thank you ivan kyrychevskyi expert oak invest invest in our defenders we call on all our tv viewers to inform us that in a few moments there will be news waiting for you in a moment
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