it's just private individuals whom he trusts, who are they, well, the code can get such information from there, well, what's in the house, well, you know me. you are the owner there, he manages everything there, in fact, it seems to me that today zelenskyi is in charge, zelenskyi, because he makes decisions. and by the way, he still has other channels left. i forgot, for example , when an organ and as an apparatus it is also a channel informing the president, by the way, and our other special services, yes, it seems to me that yarmak will still be playing. after all, as before, such a close assistant, and not the head of all departments, means the cabinet of ministers of the verkhovna rada and so on, as his sometimes they put up a guy from the president, no, he

's just such a first assistant. thank you very much for your comment. oleksandr martynenko , the general director of the interfax-ukraine news agency, was on radio svoboda, thank you . well, the wave of resignations has reached the ministry of defense, a request for dismissal of his own accord, the deputy minister responsible for the rear support of the army resigned from his post, his name is vyacheslav shapovalov, the reason for his dismissal is a large public outcry around the topic of support for the armed forces, according to shapovalov's statement published on the website of the ministry of defense. of defense of ukraine apparently buys food products for the military at significantly inflated prices eggs at uah 17 per piece potatoes at uah 22 per kilogram well, i think you have all heard about it the day before, the ministry of defense refuted this information, minister oleksiy reznikov stated that the inflated prices are a

technical error, the appearance of this publication is an attempt to undermine trust in the ministry of defense, that is, yesterday the head of the department announced the discrediting of the ministry of defense. who is responsible for food supplies for the army vyacheslav shapovalov the ministry of defense called shapovalov's statement a worthy act in the traditions of european democratic politics and believes that such a step will allow to preserve the trust of society and international partners. how to understand if the information of journalists is a deceptive manipulation, as claimed by the ministry of defense. then why is the deputy minister resigning ? evening, for the first time . when i saw the news that vyacheslav shapovalov was resigning, i thought maybe this was a sacrificial sacrifice that simply had to fire someone to somehow stop this scandal and stop at shapovalova or am i wrong? well, i think that

this could be, i don't know who made the decision according to the report, he made such a decision himself, but i think that in connection with such a resonator, it would still be understandable that it is possible that he himself decided to leave because in order not to frame the minister there and realizing that otherwise it would be very difficult to extinguish the scandal, he really is . look, yesterday there was a committee, so where did the representatives of the minister come, yesterday you still understood that he would resign deputy the minister who was responsible for the rear support of the army, is this out of the blue today? no, we did not discuss this, and this did not happen, and mr. shapoval himself was at our committee, he also explained it together with the minister of defense. we looked at the contracts and analyzed them, we looked at the positions that there are prices, and mr. shapoval, he was there with his department heads, presented everything, showed everything

according to the contract, and today the resignation was unexpected for you. saw many questions were explained to us there according to the same with eggs, about which there is now so much talk about other types, we talked about logistics, we talked about supply companies there, a lot of things became clear and it is not surprising from the point of view of all these resignations that are going now, that's why i think shapoval was thrown into the general piggy bank, and in such a plan that there is a scandal, let's make a decision at the level of the ministry of defense, just yesterday, many people believed and there were such theories that it is possible that the minister should resign or do you not agree with this i do not agree what now we need to talk about the resignation of the minister. yesterday, in addition to all this, this

publication, we also talked about the scandal and about rammstein. the minister was already at rammstein at this time, and the first thing before starting the discussion was that we talked for a long time about what happened to rammstein, which the minister is still giving us help, when he finished the whole report, we have already moved on to this specific problem, we talked about it for a long time, so i don't think that there is now a reason for the minister to resign, then the resignation of the deputy minister are trying to close this issue, but i also want to draw attention to the fact that this december agreement, where eggs were allegedly priced at uah 17, with the company aktiv kompany on behalf of the ministry was signed by the director of the state procurement department, bohdan khmelnytskyi. he was at the committee yesterday, but he was not. as far as i know him suspended, i heard this phrase when we were discussing that he was suspended now from the

position he held because of that well, he was not there before that, i know him. he came even earlier, even before the war, he was engaged in procurement and came there to defend certain positions on the state defense order, that's why we know him and remember him at the beginning of the war. well, i know him, that's why he wasn't there yesterday. the deputy minister spoke, and there were also other officials who directly presented the contracts to us. they presented the product catalog and talked about logistics. about the companies with which the contracts were concluded, how they were concluded, that is why there are many questions, of course they are all in secret, so i am saying only what i can say so that i am not accused of issuing a state secret well, in the stand of the deputy minister, it is assumed that the issue of procurement should be closed, does your committee still hope for a final investigation ? look, yesterday, in addition to the officials

whom i have already named, we had representatives of the nabu, this is the same department that, let's say , controls the military in the plan corruption , representatives of the security service of ukraine, representatives of the dbr and all of them. we also overheard them. they said that according to this fact , they already have open criminal cases, they are investigating them, and i believe that this is the fact before this the investigation must show whether there were actually abuses and corruption conspiracies with suppliers in order to raise prices there and then make some kind of kickbacks. as for the committee, we remember that at the beginning of the war and according to the law, we will say yes , according to the law, but - the executive power of the cabinet of ministers in a different way - this was interpreted by the law on defense procurement, which clearly states that during a defense war, the order of defense procurement is prescribed by the cabinet of ministers. well, since in

peacetime we control everything, well, the cabinet he prescribed the ministers and did not write the control of the parliament there, well, when the war started, it is clear that we turned a blind eye to it because we understood. we remember when the war began , there were a lot of such hot people who bought everything . there was a command to buy so that only our military could be armed with body armor . e food and everything was given to the front. now we have made a decision to partially return e-e control to the parliament e precisely to the committee of the verkhovna rada and we will further control what model it will be, so that it is also not bureaucratized and not done the supply of weapons for our armed forces is somewhat more complicated, but i think that from now on we will begin to control the purchase and the closed part of it in relation to weapons, as for the transparency of procurement, a bill has already been submitted, which also partially opens the

e- e purchases, but the question is not about the quantity , because we understand that the quantity can be used by the enemy for the analysis of one or another firm, and specifically for the prices, so that citizens know the prices, and minister reznikov from he agreed with us. he added many proposals for control, he did everything adequately , he, er, he helped the committee to deal with the whole situation so completely. and now i think that the draft law will be adopted there in the near future, as soon as all the parliamentary procedures have passed, and then the public will already monitor the prices and to know because 12 is important for the committee there, regardless of the ministers. regardless of who we have, understanding that we have a large part of the budget and aid, it is our partners, we heard that today we already have leopard tanks poland part of poland, germany, that's why there's a

microphone, and that's why i want to say that we have to be in front of our partner. they have to be sure that money is not stolen from us regarding tanks. the last question is that spiegel reports that after long debates, german chancellor schulz decided the decision to provide ukraine with german leopard tanks can be announced tomorrow, as i understand it, we are talking about 10 to 14 tanks . of all scales of war what we already have now and what uh we understand what plans the russian federation has but we, i even talked with some of our partners germany's parliament they said don't worry consider it such a quick start uh i think the main thing will be that that these german leopards will come to ukraine to fight against fascist russia, and i think

this will be the main thing, then the main thing is for poland to give permission to other countries to transfer tanks to us, and i think that gradually we will cross this barrier , as we once crossed the barrier with e- is caliber 155 with chimars and prospects. i think we will also move on to airplanes, although i can already see immediately after the german publications reported that scholz's positive decision was also reported by the scandinavian media that after this norway is already considering transferring 8 tanks to ukraine, and norway has 36 tanks in total therefore, it is possible that germany will be such a first first step roman thank you very much roman kostenko people's deputy of the faction, the voice of the secretary of the committee on national security , defense and intelligence was on radio liberty well, about that, we will definitely return to the tanks today, thank you. american western officials called on ukraine to switch its attention from the fight for the city of bakhmut

in donetsk region to a potential offensive in the southern direction. ukrainian defenders are literally walking this quote toe to toe with the russian military in the bakhmut direction that as a result of these intense shellings the city is almost completely destroyed all this time, fierce fighting continues in the direction of bakhmut, in particular, near soledar, the reuters agency was able to film the evacuation of wounded ukrainian soldiers and the work of the artillery of the armed forces of ukraine. look, we will discuss what is happening there,

everyone can see that now is a difficult time in this area. the artillery is working, and after that the infantry are already coming in, and that is, in fact , the guys are holding on much harder. it is very rare to say what is missing, they try to work for us. again, they are also infantry somewhere, they shock, they cover a lot, they shoot a lot

, they shoot if you shoot. well, like for a long time. if you shoot, then they are already beating . they hit us at some old points, like they had some coordinates, landmarks, i don't know the targets and they monotonously hit the same points there , let's talk about the situation in the bakhmut direction, a fighter of the freedom battalion

yaroslav lysenko of the national guard of ukraine joins our broadcast, yaroslav. good evening, viewers. tell us how we are. how are you doing. our battalion, more precisely, has such a talent for getting into the thick of all situations and all wars that take place on the territory of ukraine. we already have prylutsky behind us. the direction of bucha irpin and rubizhne severodonetsk lysychansk e.e. zaytseva is near the neck and now we are fed up, we are defending ukraine at the hottest points, that is, we are working under the bachmouth klishchivka ozeryanivka this is the south ee under the bachmouth somewhere 8-7 kilometers

from the city itself, but we also visit bakhmut very often there, life is raging, ukrainian life is raging, there are people who need to be helped, there are people who could not evacuate, we help them all together as volunteers, we also take gear and water there. well, if there is time, mainly cuts the piston where i said in the villages around bakhmut we have not surrendered our positions for almost four months now without getting out we stand in our positions every day attacks every day battles heavy wounded light heavy e we have losses unfortunately the best guys are leaving to other worlds, but this is a war, everyone is holding on. now it has become a little easier with the weather. it was 5-6 days ago and it was minus 15 and -17 now, thank god, it is zero. well, on the one hand, everyone is covered in

mud, but they do not freeze. in the trenches, because it is very cold in the field. sit down, this is a special case, i had such an experience more than once, it is very difficult, but the guys are holding on, i think bakhmut and soon solidar, we will hold bakhmut, solidar will be released and we will go to our beloved donetsk through pisky, where i gave my brothers my military path, yes last week and the day before indeed, many reported that because of the sub- zero temperature, the military is freezing their limbs, you said that there are losses, and i will also say for our viewers that literally on january 20, the german media reported that the german intelligence was allegedly concerned about the heavy losses of the ukrainian army in the battles for bakhmut, and you also know today from there were reports from the american television and radio company cnn, they refer to interlocutors among american ukrainian officials, and it is alleged that

american western officials advise ukraine to shift attention from the struggle for the city bakhmut on a potential offensive in the southern direction, where it could take place, do you see any such hints or plans of the ukrainian army to really switch attention from the direction of bakhmut and direct the military in some other directions, well, look here, i already said, the fate of our unit is very interesting. we have determined for ourselves that we are a deterrent force in order to stop the combatants and they are the most effective, well, what do they think of the russians, maybe the americans consider the most effective troops of the russian federation. i am talking about the wagnerites, i am talking about uh, some other shoigu's private army and so on. and at this time, we really expect that

offensive actions will be carried out, whether in the north it is the liman region and so on, or in the south in the kherson region or mykolaiv region to melitopol, mariupol, and so on, god forbid they happened, we are always happy for it, but what about bakhmut? bakhmut is famous. what sands are mariupol? these are the fortresses that we defend. these are already fundamental things. these are already iconic cities for the ukrainian army for its glory. what are the actions of the boys here are alive who have already died, bakhmut, we will not leave here a huge group of wagnerites and other e soldiers of the russian army, which we must grind so that it is possible and indeed in the south to begin our

offensive actions. we wanted everything very much because e unfortunately, we had very little e it is possible to attack and we would really like to do it and in our direction, if there are any offensive actions in the south or in the north, then it is possible that here the enemy will withdraw his troops, we will see some movements and go forward eagerly, all the guys are ready, they are charged and highly motivated all who want victory, but victory with our little blood and having completely destroyed the enemies, thank you very much yaroslav, connect with us more often from the bakhmut direction, preferably with good news yaroslav lysenko, a fighter from the freedom battalion of the national guard of ukraine, told us what is happening in the bakhmut direction thank you well, we back to the tanks, the latest news is that after a long debate german chancellor olafsholz writes the german

publication spiegel has decided to provide ukraine with german tanks leopard is still writing spiegel is talking about 10-14 tanks, other allies, including the scandinavian countries, as the german publications write, also want to transfer leopard tanks to ukraine, they are already writing about this in particular. the scandinavian media said in norway that they are thinking about it there. for export, more precisely, the export of this equipment to poland in particular. well, while in europe, so to speak , the issue regarding the fate of leopards is reaching the finish line, the administration of us president joe biden is leaning towards a possible transfer to ukraine, well, this is a verbatim quote of a significant number of abrams tanks, the corresponding announcement of their shipment may appear during the current week, so far the wall street journals is writing about it with reference to official representatives of the usa literally yesterday and the day before yesterday we talked about it on the air, how realistic is it? today the

american media wrote about it, the military expert colonel of the reserve of the armed forces of ukraine serhiy grabskyi joins the air and good evening to you, i will only add that the white house has not officially commented yet the information of the american media that the usa can hand over the abrams, but it seems that i cannot understand it, it is such a special information operation from the side of washington, when the american media has already written everywhere that they are ready to hand over the abrams in order to somehow push olaf scholz faster, or maybe so it will happen that at the same time ukraine will receive approval for the dispatch of leopards and the dispatch of abrams. what do you think, well, in general, such things are simply not voiced like that, and you have to understand that the process has started, and i think you know when we we are talking about the uh, what uh was according to the uh open provisions and results

of the rammstein meeting. well, there were certain hidden agreements and who is possible with us. this is a rather specific weapon, and in fact, like all other types of western weapons, it is quite new for us, so you know what to say. that immediately after the announcement of this information, the decision that we will see those tanks would probably be unfair, and this applies not only to abramsiyev, but also to those themselves challengers and leopards, maybe clerks and any kind of equipment, so it is obvious that the principle decision and what i was actually talking about, the minister of defense austin, eh, that this rammstein , he eh, happened at a turning point, that he changes the whole essence, we have something to do with the connection i stopped hearing you, it is indicated by the fact that i can already hear it, i can already hear

it, this technique will come to us and here you already know, after such months of waiting, you have to be patient and, uh, wait, when it will actually come, but again, i repeat, the technique itself without e-e system provision of technical support for operation and repair, it is ineffective, therefore, we have a lot of work ahead of us, because you know. well, i would say so, evolutionary, commendable changes. we are after uh, 31 years of independence, unfortunately i stopped hearing you. serhii grabsky, military expert, colonel is problems with the internet of the armed forces of ukraine can you hear us i

can hear you well there are problems with the internet but i can't hear it now let's try i'm thinking of restoring the connection if it works out i want to say that i want to say that for now abc new reports that 12 countries have agreed to transfer leopard tanks to ukraine. it says that this will happen if germany gives its consent. abc news reports on high-ranking ukrainian officials. well, according to the source, these agreements were reached on friday at the very- at the summit at the base at the summit at the base of rammstein in germany, well , that's actually what mr. grabsky was talking about just now, are you in touch with us yet? i wonder what the media is today or tomorrow they write alla in scholz is already ready to give permission for the export and re-export of tanks. if it is still so. and is there any communication with us since

there is no internet again today in ukraine there was an air alarm and maybe many people have problems with communication language, so as i already said, 12 countries agreed to transfer to ukraine and also the news is that the usa can provide ukraine with a significant number of abrams in order to unblock the supply of leopards. well, in fact, we remember these signals that olaf scholz sent, journalists wrote about it about the fact that he talked with joseph biden and said that if, say, washington dares to transfer even some possible , perhaps i can assume that it was about a symbolic number of abrams, if washington agrees to transfer the abrams to kyiv, then berlin will also decide on this step regarding the transfer of leopards mr. grabsky appeared on our broadcast, i have one last question for you . please tell me. and what is the total number of tanks that ukraine can get? i have already declared 12 countries that allegedly are ready to hand over their leopards. we remember

that valeriy zaluzhny said that he really needs 300 tanks with all these permits , when everyone will receive everything, how many tanks can ukraine get? well, you know, uh, general zaluzhny talked about tanks and he didn't specify what it should be only leopards or only abrams or only leclercs or only challengers and even according to the results of rammstein, which we already mentioned with you in the eighth meeting, ukraine receives at least 120 tanks, these are tanks, yes , t-72s from different countries, but these are already tanks plus challenge thus, if we are talking about an additional shipment of tanks, about which there are currently such active negotiations, let's say that the stated need for tanks will be closed, but this does not mean that we will need only 300 tanks and nothing more for the final victory it is necessary to understand that there is also such a concept as the dynamics

of hostilities, so we will always need tanks, just like airplanes, just like armored vehicles, artillery systems , communication control systems, etc. therefore, the main thing to start this process is today, ah, i didn't know or i don't know. did you hear me when i said that it's not just about the tanks themselves, but also about their maintenance system and technical support ? and again, this weapon is completely new for us, you and i cannot say for sure that the leopards will become a kind of panacea for us and they will be used in the best way, maybe it will be about leclercs, maybe about challengers, we will look and that's it the fact that we are now receiving such a wide range of tanks at the initial stage allows us to test each dictation and make a final decision on what is most acceptable for us based on the conditions of modern

war, somehow, i will only share with you and with our viewers the news, they just rush these news about tanks, the publication politico american writes that a decision on the transfer of american abrams tanks to ukraine is expected this week and may already be the case, the specific figure is called 30 units of equipment, these are american tanks, although still recently, joe biden said that it is impossible and there is another news about tanks. the netherlands wants to buy back 18 leopard-2 tanks that were leased in germany and transfer them to ukraine within the framework of the tank coalition. this is the news as of now about tanks, thank you very much serhiy rabskyi a military expert, a colonel of the reserve of the armed forces of ukraine, was on radio liberty. well, we will certainly monitor how the processes regarding tanks continue. i hope that tomorrow chancellor olafsholts will already make some official statement or other high-ranking officials well, in order not to miss any news, subscribe to the radio svoboda channel on

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