on weekdays from monday to friday at 11:10 on espresso on the air from washington, the program of the ukrainian service of the voice of america, i am yuliya yarmolenko, i congratulate the american senators , republican lindsey graham, and democrats ericherd bhagotal and sheldon white house, who just returned from ukraine, called on germany to provide ukraine with leopard 2 tanks as soon as possible, and the biden government with abrams tanks earlier . this day in the american press there was information that the us president is inclined to send a significant number of tanks to ukraine abrams m1 and they can announce it already this week. in the white house, they say that

they cannot announce anything at this point, but they assure that they have never ruled out the issue of providing tanks to ukraine . the re-export of leopard tanks is a chance for germany to be on the right side of history , stated senator cream, and in his opinion, the germans will use this chance. the senator believes that the provision of leopard tanks is also long-range missile attacks will help bring ukraine closer to victory, and the provision of a small number of abrams can deprive germany of any arguments against the ukrainians can win if they have the necessary capabilities, starting with tanks, leopard-2 tanks are important because they are in place in europe, thousands of them are easy to transport and refuel it is easy to conduct training on them with fuel, they are critically important, but frankly

, if we need to send 3-5-10 abrams tanks for this, let's do it and i understand all the difficulties with abrams jet tanks fuel preparation, but the pentagon must transfer these tanks to abrams if this is what is necessary for the germans to give permission to our allies to supply leopard-2 tanks and for the germans themselves to provide the quotations, we call on them to set an example, the british decided to send 14 challenger tanks, and this created a precedent that i i hope we will repeat and to our german allies the sooner you make this decision the better for the world the day berlin agrees to allow poland and other countries to send leopard tanks when the german government decides to send tanks itself will be the day of the approach of the liberation of ukraine and the end of this nightmare stage consideration of the issue of the transfer of tanks to ukraine and

german and potentially american. i congratulate ostap, today it looks like there have been several developments in the issue of providing leopard-2 tanks to ukraine, what is the situation at the moment and when can they potentially announce such a transfer and how many leopards could b to get ukraine at the moment is all we have this is so far a message in the media, but the german media, in particular, the edition of spiegel writes that the chancellors were fouled, the chancellor orel v scholz did make a decision to allow other countries to supply german leopard-2 tanks to ukraine , this is about an initiative that was previously it was announced and called upon by poland, finland joined there, and the media say that other countries, in particular, norway , the netherlands, spain and other european allies can join, and in addition, journalists also write that in addition to the permission of other countries to export such

tanks, germany can make a decision about the independent supply of two leopard tanks for ukraine. regarding the number, it is probably too early for yuri to speak, but at least from the reports that we see in the media, they say that germany is considering the supply of a company of such tanks, and when we talk about this international coalition with poland and other countries. it may even be up to 100 leopard-2 tanks. as for the timings, we will wait again, but the data of journalists claim that such a decision can be made public already this wednesday, january 25, we will very carefully follow the reports from berlin on this matter and again consciously and wait for official announcements, conditionally we will follow ostap and how the pentagon comments on the press reports that the united states may soon hand over its american tanks to the abrams only last last week, we remember that there were a number of statements in the pentagon, but why does the white house, why does the pentagon consider such weapons not optimal for ukraine, for the moment we really did not hear

many messages from the pentagon. and about what is difficult from the zoological side, to supply these tanks for ukraine, are they difficult to operate and maintain, and today, in fact, the spokesman quantized petre he said yes the fact that abrams tanks are difficult to maintain , this effect will remain a fact today and in the future, however, the united states has never ruled out the possibility of any deliveries for ukraine, including no military equipment at the moment, again, we still have reports in the media that the usa is considering the supply of such tanks for ukraine. these are one of the most modern tanks currently available they are considering several dozen american content on this matter in the pentagon, today she said that she answered the questions of journalists that they have nothing to announce at the moment, but she assured that if there are such news, they will definitely be reported, the american mass media believe that such an announcement may be made public to yulia already this week ago, again, we are closely following the official announcements without ostap, i want to talk about

a slightly different topic, one of the important ones in ukraine is the resignations in the zelenskyi government on against the background of the scandal with purchases for the army, how are the ears reacting to this and will it not affect the aid to ukraine? you know what they say to yulia. today we asked the reaction of several american legislators to this , in particular, at a briefing in congress, our colleague kateryna lisunova also had the opportunity to talk with kress today murphy is a democrat senator. he said that, of course, anti-corruption efforts remain important for ukraine, and when ukraine will be rebuilt, he says it should be a new ukraine in which there will be no place for corruption, in which there will be no place for kleptocracy ide oligarchs will not be able to use or manipulate the government for their own interests also commented very clearly on this news from ukraine two senators whom we already heard on the air today richard promontal and lindsey graham who just returned from kyiv, they emphasized that a very thorough monitoring of the support

that the united states provides to ukraine and so far there is no evidence that military or humanitarian or any other support is being used in any inappropriate way they actually welcomed the efforts of the ukrainian government and welcomed the decision to resign those officials who may be suspected of some kind of corruption, as they say this once again confirms the ukrainian government's promises to fight corruption that such things cannot be tolerated, i think we can now listen to richard's comments the volunteer is a democrat senator, and lindgren is a republican sanatorium that they gave today for journalists in the us congress. this is very important because it shows that the president zelenskyi told us that there will be no tolerance for fraud, embezzlement, these cases of improper use of funds relate to the purchase of food or other supplies by ukrainians. this has nothing to do with any american military equipment, but one more action is that president zelenskyi continues to

solve the issue of fraud and corruption, as he promised in the elections in 2019, we are extremely confident that our military aid is going where it should go and that there is accountability and transparency to my colleagues in the house representatives to those who think that we should not write an unlimited check i agree and to those who are worried about ukraine go there washington is not talking about it get on a plane then take a train rest drink a lot of water take your vitamins and they will show you everything the american military told us whatever - any member of the congress who wants to come in a proper way to see what is happening can do it. i think that president zelenskyy welcomes it, too, very important messages were heard today from the american legislators of ostap, we will definitely keep an eye on how the situation develops with the potential transfer of

german and possibly american tanks to ukraine, we will watch tomorrow, thank you ostap on direct communication with the capitol hill was my colleague tash japan recently announced that it will transfer to ukraine modern equipment for demining a group of state service experts from of emergency situations underwent training in the use of devices in cambodia and now continues the training course directly in japan meanwhile our correspondents in ukraine they saw with their own eyes how the demining process takes place in the mykolaiv region, where experts of the state emergency service continue to clear populated areas of explosives after the occupation by the russians, says yelyzaveta krotik , pyrotechnics defuse russian projectiles in the mykolaiv region, it was a variety of ammunition, artillery shells, grenade launcher shots, cluster munitions,

engineering mines, the city of snigurivka and the surrounding villages in the mykolaiv oblast were under russian occupation for 9 months. on november 10, the armed forces of ukraine released fleeing the city, the russian troops left behind various types of ammunition, that is, they were waiting for an attack and made traps for the attackers, that is, they wanted to protect their ways of approach to them, and then they ran away and left it. we are told that it is potentially polluted there, you go there, then we go there , the potential pollution starts and we start the survey from there, that is, first we examine, for example, a road, it can be

a road, because along this road we need arrive before that, then when we have already finished inspecting the road, we are already starting to inspect the territory, one of the first sappers pass through the territory with power transmission loops so that the electricians can start restoring the power supply. now we are in the village of red valley, from here we go along the summer power transmission line, where it will lead us, there is a representative with us oblenergo , he shows us the path of the dynamite, we had an order there that we needed to examine the power lines there, as well as the territory approximately there. quite a lot of different engineering ammunition was found, and this is due to the fact that they lived there, there were not many boxes with weapons, ammunition and others, of course, there was also a traffic jam around their territory, the

military works here, a large number of groups and, in general, i i can't say what they find about, that is, our group or our branch. which one is working now? most often, most of all, we encountered changes in 2 of them. there were a lot of them, just a huge number, they are such mines that look like a spider they are called spiders in general, they throw out city wogs there after some battles there or something else or after, for example, it has flown in. at their disposal there are burnt-out shells of the wog 17 type. in russia, sapper shells are also found in private yards in fields and on in infrastructure projects, citizens

were also found in the settlement, as well as outside the settlement . two explosive objects were found in this area at this address, they will now be identified as to what kind of explosive objects they are and then they will be transported in a special vehicle and transported to the place of temporary storage of explosive objects, we will now identify the explosive objects that were discovered by citizens in this area,

as we see it we have a fragmentation grenade from an rpg anti-tank grenade, this is an og-7v fragmentation grenade, an rgn grenade, an offensive grenade these items are dangerous due to the fact that improper handling of them can lead to fatalities or injury to the human body, such as hands, arms, eyes, i.e. , people who, if they are not specialists, such things are generally prohibited, some ammunition found by sappers is transported to a specially equipped place for storage and further decontamination of the first full-scale invasion in mykolayivska oblast,

more than 8,000 russian munitions were discovered and destroyed by controlled detonation. fear is an indicator of visual acuity, it should be in everyone. if it is not there, then it is already the problem is for individuals for sappers here ostap should be responsible, but you have to fight with him, it drives some thoughts, but it prompts you to perform your work better because you know that people will follow you in this area. for example, like us 18 we will go to the electricians to repair the network cat for the voice of the ameriv region, meanwhile, ukraine is working with

partners around the world and in order to hold russia and its military accountable for the atrocities in ukraine, among the mechanisms is the institute of universal jurisdiction the essence of which is that other countries can investigate international crimes regardless of where they were committed and the citizens of which countries use this tool in ukraine, the team of the giorgi and malclone foundation for justice and justice helps the defender anna neistat, who heads this direction, talked to iryna solomko. greetings to anna you and your organization and the experience of working in various conflicts what you saw in other parts of the world how different it is from what you see now in ukraine i always try to refrain from comparing human suffering, i would say that of course the scale of what is happening in ukraine is huge, the uniqueness of the situation is that in recent decades we have not had to deal with open aggression of one state against another, and one more thing that i

consider quite unique in the last 20 years is that that since the first days of the war we have seen incredible international and national efforts to document the crimes and bring the perpetrators to justice . defenders note that a huge number of cases can block the national system that will not allow to achieve the final result , therefore international structures should help ukraine, we agree with this, the number of rights is so large. the last thing i heard is about 65 thousand cases. one of the ways to deal with this is to start studying patterns because of course, if you start opening a case for each individual murder or crimes as the police do it will usually be difficult war requires adaptation of procedures it makes sense to examine patterns and combine cases that can at least be related to by the same high- level criminals, so every time we for example talk about attacks using aircraft or caliber missiles, it is obvious that the black sea fleet has only five submarines and we know

their commanders; moreover, we know that it is the commander of the submarines who are responsible for attacks, for example, on vinnytsia, they received orders from above, and therefore it makes sense to combine cases when, for example, missiles of the caliber of submarines were used, and to focus on high-level performers of such who gave the orders. the situation is the same around the siege of mariupol. this is one of the truths with which we work. this is a more holistic approach to consider patterns and not individual violations. it could contribute to the further development of justice mechanisms, but even with it, we understand that not every individual criminal will be brought to justice and not every victim will receive justice, what needs to be done to make such an approach work in ukraine, this is how the international criminal court functions, in part for him it is a question of the capacity of prosecutors afford to open 65 separate cases , so they will have cases based on certain categories of accusations, war crimes, crimes against humanity, possible genocide and incitement to it, from the point of view of the

ukrainian prosecutor's office, she works a lot as traitors to the united states government, who financed and contributed to the creation of the great project of support for ukrainian prosecutors through so the so-called mobile teams of justice , which include international prosecutors, and i know that they all encourage the ukrainian police and prosecutors to start using this approach but it is difficult or correct, i understand because i started my mission in ukraine with documentation and later expanded it, it is not exactly our mission - it is always legal proceedings and we conduct cases and document, we conduct our own investigations and often cooperate with local law enforcement organizations and law enforcement agencies, our main the goal is to bring these cases to the judicial systems of the countries where ukrainians mostly went, many of them are witnesses of the most terrible crimes , so we want to represent them and ensure the advancement of their cases our investigations are very targeted. we can not cover everything, we try to work on patterns in crimes and also choose the most symbolic cases, as well as cases when the victims themselves want to achieve justice and are ready to go to the end. that is

, you represent in the courts of european countries those ukrainians who left the country due to trafficking and the so -called universal jurisdiction allows you to do this. there are many different features depending on the country where we are. in some countries, it is not even necessary for ukrainians to be present in the state. the authorities can open a case in other countries, even the presence does not allow to do it, for example in france the prosecutor can open a case only if a french citizen is affected we are trying to push them to go beyond this and maybe they will succeed, so there are limitations, but there are countries where there are very few or those which, even with fundamental restrictions, open opportunities for ukrainian victims, such as austria this summer, the authorities decided that the situation in ukraine is a matter of national interest, which in fact opened the possibility for any a ukrainian who is currently in austria to start a business but this is not only about europe, such systems exist in more than 170 countries of the world, of course, very few people did this in the past, it is interesting that currently the countries of eastern

europe are becoming more active in this matter, most european countries have never had cases of universal jurisdiction and the first ones that they are opening now relate to ukraine, which is interesting. many of them have the so -called absolute universal jurisdiction, which means that they can open any cases if it is a serious international crime they do not need the presence of the criminal there is no restriction on the nationality or residence of the victim this jurisdiction is very interested in the cases we are working on russian propaganda figures from the very beginning we have been very focused on this issue and my team is convinced that these people are equally responsible for what is happening in ukraine, even if they may never have owned weapons. we are trying to create a kind of coalition of jurisdictions, because in one country it will be difficult to do it alone, besides, such a set of charges has never been used before. could you still name the number of cases that have already been documented by you or brought to court? the first step is to file a statement with the prosecutor's office or the police, depending on the country, and

then it may take years until the case comes to court, but our main goal is to obtain arrest warrants, because as soon as there is an arrest warrant, this data is transferred to interpol, which begins the procedure of searching for a person with further arrest and extradition, and this creates a real possibility that as soon as the criminal goes somewhere he can be arrested and extradited and so the most important step now is to make sure that as many of these warrants as possible are issued. documents regarding the first three or four cases, each case has a significant amount of ugu, for example, in one case there are more than a dozen families, and we may add a few more if 20 people were killed during the attack. we are trying to make sure that each victim is represented by relatives other cases are smaller we are dealing with double rape and murder usually these are women who survived and potentially their children statements regarding this case we are preparing to file in austria but even in this case we are really trying to go beyond the immediate perpetrators who were soldiers and reach up to the commanders who

were at least in this specific part of the kyiv region, this means that the case may eventually be expanded to include more victims of other crimes that were committed, you lead a group that deals with ukraine but how deeply involved is the founder of the amalklonia organization in this process. she was very involved from the very beginning, but with a different task, she is the president of the foundation and also a lawyer who has her own legal practice. so in this other capacity, she was invited by the former prosecutor general iryna venediktova to join the advisory group and in this she and a number of other lawyers provided consultations on many complex topics that were not fully settled in ukrainian legislation, i will not be surprised if she, as a lawyer, takes part in some cases and will represent the group of victims, as it did before, if it does return to the terms of bringing criminals to justice

. but real cases of such long-term justice clearly make it clear to criminals that they will live their whole lives in this fear of being on the dock secondly, the system is accelerating and this is due to the increase in experience and resources, so i believe that the deadline for issuing warrants is finally right. not so long. i understand that a lot will depend on how events develop in russia, because everything can change very quickly, and if there are any significant changes in russia, they they can conduct pre-trial prosecution of criminals at the national level and before extradition, so i do not rule out that we will see for ourselves in russia, history and the world have already seen such examples of roland congo and beria, some countries of the former yugoslavia and germany thank you for the conversation, a documentary film about the war in ukraine, a house made of logs, jointly produced by ukraine, and sweden and finland were nominated for an oscar. how

ukrainian cinema is perceived in the usa and how documentary filmmakers show the true face of the war and expose russian propaganda will be told by maria olyanovska first in two ukrainian films took part in the competition program of world documentaries at the sundance festival, both about the war, mstislav chornov's film about the siege of mariupol , the director, together with his colleagues yevhen maloletka and vasylisa stepanenko, covered what was happening in the city during the first 20 days of the full-scale invasion during this time, during these 20 days which we arrived in mariupol. we shot many such shots that went around the world. they were published in the news . mariupol, what did the world see from mariupol in the first days of the invasion? all the photos were

taken by me. i have the language. with all these materials when literally broke through through this blog to 15 russian two posts my hope when i made this film is that people will see each other in a broader context this is a story about a city this is a story about people this is a context this is a little bit of hope this many pain, but also nadiya, and after showing it to me and the team, i even need to calm the audience down a little, because they are in shock, just in shock, they say that they have never seen anything like this. and they saw somewhere around 30 seconds of one minute of those videos, but it never matched that is, one in one single picture, that is, they did not understand the scale of the scale of destruction, the scale of suffering, and this gives me hope that if

this film finds a new large audience , then more people will want to help ukraine , more people will know what is happening the second ukrainian film iron butterflies was directed by roman lyubiy, it reconstructs the malaysian boeing disaster shot down in donbas by a russian beech in 2014, the success of modern combat as a result of driving a missile with russian letters, 298 passengers died, these are different countries of the continents, and in this film we investigate exactly how it happened and which the consequences of this, what are the consequences after that in we can observe in the international media space and investigate russian

propaganda because this is the most international international case eh the most international war crime of the russian-ukrainian war, and that is why russia created a lot of myths and for the foreign audience it is very convenient to consider how the whole machine works, we presented it even with such rawness on international industrial platforms in search of partners and financing , then we were asked very often so, what is your personal relationship with this story? and now, after the full-scale invasion, this question has completely disappeared, that is, it is obvious to everyone. why is our personal connection er connection er in the same we this is exactly how we see that 298 people were killed in our house and we have

to express something about it both films are available to watch online and on the website of the festival until january 30 maria olinovska voice of america and this is the end of it thank you for watching voice of america in ukrainian see you tomorrow all the best take care dad we continue the search for 15-year-old arina yatsyuk about the fate of which for almost a year nothing is known the photo of the missing girl was given to us by her great -aunt which actually lost contact with niece and told me a simply terrible story of the disappearance of alina herself from kyiv, and when the

war began, she was with her father, mother and younger sister in the village of severynivka, this is the buchan district of the kyiv region, and in the first days of the war it was more or less calm there, so the family decided to stay in the village and not to return to the capital, where rockets had already arrived and at the beginning of march, when the buchan district was already full of occupiers in severynivka, and not only did enemy artillery begin to fly, of course people were hiding in basements, but what can i say there it was safe, hardly possible, so i can imagine with horror the feeling of arina, her nine-year-old sister is going, the main thing is her parents, who perfectly understood that it is impossible to stay, but it is also very dangerous to run away. look at severynivka. then turn to motyzhyn or kopyliv. and on the track at that time, the technique is already in full swing, the situation is deadlocked and the family dares