lies not only from ukrenergo, the operator of the transmission system, but from local distribution operators in our country, for example, in the capital, the situation has changed somewhat for the better, this is a gray area . five well there with a small number of hours this is much less than it was before, although the situation in the kyiv region is much worse in some populated areas there is no electricity up to 16 hours a day and it is clear that all this is connected with the fact that after missile attacks, temporary power supply schemes were applied and there are also restrictions on the

power and throughput of these systems and if the consumer m.m. more well, that is, it is necessary to restore these temporary supply routes, but we know that there is nothing more permanent than temporary, and that is why some people in the regions began to delay the restoration of the main network and hm gave preference to such schemes well, they work, well, so be it working users are limited to the usual ones, well,

let it be limited. therefore, appropriate response measures have now been taken, and just the other day, nkrekp made a decision to fine e-e companies of operators who do not adhere to the appropriate schedules. in addition , it was emphasized that despite the danger of on-duty missile strikes, you still need to deal with the restoration of the main network, and if there is such an opportunity, then increase both the amount of generation and the amount of energy that is distributed among consumers , because, well, such things are the price. if we will

the restoration and updating of the system should be postponed until the end of the war, then this will negatively affect the mood of ukrainian consumers, i think that these influence measures will be quite effective , and despite the fact that, for example, the detector expressed, well , they chose to make such remarks, there really are people who work there and the organizations for which i create and are included in this corporation, which work very efficiently, but well, we all understand that the consumer, er, demands, the consumer wants, er, at least compliance with the same stabilization schedules of stabilization

shutdowns, therefore, the comments of nkrekp, in my opinion, are quite reasonable and they are such that they will encourage a little bit to strike those operators, especially those who are located especially far from the front line, so that they do what is planned a little faster than they are doing now to what extent. there are still reserves of stability in the ukrainian power grids. i don’t know if we will survive the 10:20 rocket attack with monopods, but we will definitely survive at least one and i always try to emphasize this, even scientists have theoretically proven that the complete destruction of the energy network

of a major power that has the support of international partners, we are impossible, impossible, this is what happens when dtek ukrenergo is told that it will take several years to restore the pre-war capacities before these missile destructions, does this mean that russia will sign the capitulation tomorrow, putin is not there i know it’s going to wagga, but we ’ll have light outages for a few more years, we’ll live according to the schedule, no, no, in any case, it’s not about surf and living according to the schedule . energy supply that existed before the war. it is not subject to full restoration. it is

necessary to create a new system that will meet european requirements for the digital quality of electric energy and, again, updated requirements for reliability, stability and safety, taking into account the high risks that will remain even after the end of the war . including military and terrorist risks. but in order to build this system, you first need to understand what the energy balance of this future of the energy system, that is, how many types of energy resources will be used and in what way it will be done, because there is no

renewable energy and the energy system that we have now is centralized and concentrated in certain regions, because the problems with our system arose precisely because the larger energy the number of thermal power plants in ukraine is the largest, it is located on the left bank of ukraine near large industrial agglomerations, primarily in the donbass donetsk region, and it is meant in the donetsk region, partly in the luhansk region further south and in the center of the dnipropetrovsk region, that is, those stations that are now located directly in those areas are no longer able to produce most

of their electrical energy because at least five of them have been completely destroyed, and this means that he will just take it there already there will be no sense in restoring them, we need other generating facilities, other generating companies that should work on livoberezhnaya, that is, if we are talking about post-war reconstruction, the first thing that needs to be done is to understand what it will be like this system, accordingly, optimizing it according to the requirements for reliability, stability and safety, the second is to provide consumers with electric energy using the power available at that time, and the third is to pay more attention to those

areas that were destroyed during the russian invasion if we talk about the right-bank ukraine, then most of its energy supply will be restored here. well, as soon as it will be guaranteed that there will be no repeated missile attacks for several months, if we point to the daughter country if we talk about kherson oblast, mykolaiv oblast , zaporizhzhia, that is, kharkiv oblast, that is, in these regions that were most affected by the russian invasion, it is clear that the final recovery will take more time than a few months. you were an energy expert in touch with

us. well, we will continue our marathon from the shelter of e- eh, we continue to talk about what is happening in ukraine, eh, they say that over the rostov region, in russia, there is a 50 reconnaissance plane in the air right now, which eh, the task of which is to scout out air defense sites and identify targets. well, also in the air in the vastness of belarus, there are uh migs and several ships actually can carry their own weapons on their boards, buy missiles, daggers, they are dangerous, it is very difficult to intercept them, please do not neglect your safety , you are in shelters, take care of yourself and your relatives. director of the institute of central european strategy in tuzhan, founder of the rigoped ukraine project. dmytro, good

morning . good morning, dmytro. hungary e-e m-m gives ukraine 15 generators were transferred to kyiv hungary changed its mind to block the next tranche of military aid from the eu meanwhile the head of hungary's ministry of foreign affairs of hungary said that sanctions against russia are leading europe to a dead end on the one hand it seems that hungary hmm has become more sympathetic to ukraine since on the other hand, hungary seems to stick to its own line , which it always sticks to, or does something change in politics, external to your politics, which seems to remain with its opinion and usually changes, that is, after invasion of viktor orban's position, his rhetoric wants to be ukrainian, but in places it breaks through, you know, so to speak, common sense, but this bivalent or

contradictory and even sometimes anti-ukrainian rhetoric of viktor orban is connected with the fact that he tries to satisfy everyone at the same time , that is, both russia and the west e- eh and different by the way, if the circles in the west, that is , washington is very mainstream there, i don’t know, the underground is not, or the trumpian, eh, from the west. as such, what is this connected with? victor roban is afraid of losing his power. is being built precisely on the integration of all these so -called centers of influence, i.e. gas for cars with russia, investments there from germany, first of all. well, of course, there are all kinds of american and russian, i don’t know, compromising documents, you can say that the problem is that viktor orbán was not ready for this war, they were preparing hungary for if they were being prepared for a short-term conflict or a conflict that will end with the seizure of kyiv three days ago, in fact, we cannot

talk about such a seriousness in the position of viktor orbán, which he claims. we do not we can. here he is still looking for it. we hope he follows the example of the same bulgaria, which until recently was super pro-russian. well, the least of austria, which also never distinguished itself there. that is, it would be at the address of the page , well, accordingly, the number presents normal work with speed of the internet, let's let's try to connect again now, because there are problems with the internet. dmytro is in transport, as we can see, it may also affect the quality of the connection and the quality of uh. that's what

we hear that many people blamed what some russian, some hungarian media are actually dispersing all kinds of different stories about ukraine, in particular, about the fact that the hungarian minority in ukraine is being mobilized and they are having big losses on the front with you among ukrainians of hungarian origin, and this is now very active russian media we are talking about this topic and it is as if this person is trying to shake this story that they say transcarpathia, the hungarian minority does not want to be with ukraine and so on and so on . at the end they say that poland wants to take lviv and it will be called by people who do not even understand what is the point here, e.e. lember, where are the poles here, so far similar well, but in the propaganda of solovyov and the skabeevs, all the means justify the goal, that's what we know. well but the other story is that to what extent are

these rumors that hungarians in ukraine suffer, that they are taken away very much, enough of the armed forces of ukraine, that they have a great loss . to what extent is this a marginal opinion, or is it also written and or reported about the central media in hungary, as the hungarian media, in principle, cover this war. this is a question for mr. dmytro, mr. dmytrovych. did you hear the question? can we continue the conversation? i hear you very well. the question is, do you really hear me? you wrote and you know that this context is not devoid of, let's say, objective reasons. but a bunch of such, i don't know, local or well factors were imposed at the same time. of reserves, these manning centers were really activated there, including in transcarpathia

, that is, there is a variety of information, from some very panicked statements that summonses are being handed out everywhere to real examples that summonses are being handed out there. well, kamon, like a country at war, is being handed out stories you know, only hungarians were distributed there, well, this is absurd, that is, these publications of russian propagandists, they are actually, unfortunately, based on the materials of the hungarian media, that is, now you will open my ornemz first drawer there, that is, this publication are close to viktor orbán's team and they are dispersing this kind of panic. well, actually, but you know that. well, it's nothing. well, the quality of hungarian journalism here. they obviously build these materials on publications in social networks there or on the panic mood of some of their own there. well, i don't know any acquaintances about the oppression it so happened that again this coincidence is obvious that in mukachivska tg it was a decision of the local authorities, the question here is

how legal it is, at what level it was adopted. was it because the decision of the city council was not possible, it was removed by the city executive flags and plaques in the hungarian language, the flags are as the hungarian community says the flags of their national minority the national team can use these symbols. well, as a symbol of one's community, and we can see this in particular in the law about the national cultural autonomy of 1996. these things are called oppression. they also fired the school director. well, you know that, actually . local political showdowns between viktor balogy's team and a group of hungarians who until recently were in the alliance, well, this all translates to interstate relations, this is bad, bad, and

the fact that it all happens 10 days before there itself, to ukraine, the eu, where one of the criteria that will analyze it will be the rights of national minorities, and again i think we will hear this kind of rhetoric from budapest, and unfortunately they will have evidence, so who will understand what it is there ? this is a big question, because you know the situation, she is like this, she has done a lot. well, we will do a vocalist , then we need to have patience and expertise to sort out, clarify, at least the ukrainian public confused political showdowns with stormy patriotism and loyal patriotism and our western partner that, well, no one has a hungarian car issues in ukraine by the way i’ll tell you hmm a few of my friends by the way with hungarian passports which are prohibited in ukraine they are now on the front lines as volunteers, it’s probably not a mass example, but there are also such cases, that is why it is very

important to have a balanced picture p. dmytro and what are the moods among people in hungary, not what the media write about, that orban is trying to bend his own line, but simply the people themselves, uh, do they still follow the news from ukraine do they help or do we help the actual ukrainians who left for refuge, you are the only one from ukraine do they support the russians or support for ukraine or not support for ukraine is possible support for ukraine means support for russia with the word ot such s- all the difficult questions of the inspectors are very good questions and all of them are correct and the answers to them are the same as the ones that are viktor orbat's policies are the same hungary is very divided and polarized so it happened that during the invasion i was in hungary

working for an international mission there the whole society was divided , and what's next for the sausage movement? i'd also like to talk about people's moods. recently, we'll interrupt you again. we'll interrupt. if it is happening, what is happening in hungary, what are the moods among the people, are they very similar to viktor orbán, or is he somehow sticking to his lines, they saw surges in slovakia , and then there was a survey, they said that the majority of slovaks support ukraine , the same is happening now, very interesting events are happening during of the first second round of the czech presidential election, when the slightly pro-russian statements of andrey babiš

could cost him the victory that sociologists actually predicted for him. he said that they wanted to assassinate him. he does not meet with the voters because he is afraid for his life. well, i think he is afraid for his political hero, because his last statement is that if he becomes president, he will do everything so that czech soldiers do not defend , for example, the baltic countries in the event of an attack by russia or poland from it doesn't seem like they didn't add women to this election race about the race, but it's certainly an interesting moment, we see how the czechs remember some kind of institutional memory, probably from the year 68, but there is such a memory, in fact, to me it seems that the hungarians, who also became the first victims of the repeated aggression of the russian army in the 56th year, if i am not mistaken , all the memory lives in hungarian society or hungarians or among hungarians, there are many who do not

support russia, at least yes if it is possible to formulate mr. dmytro, continuing your conversation, it is precisely those who do not support russia . desire well, the invasion had a lot of parallels with what happened on the euromaidan in kyiv, these shootings of people from the roof, and so, well , unfortunately, the connection just broke, i would like to share with you the data in the fall . last year, the bratislava synteng, gobsek, held a sociological study on the inclusion of ukrainian refugees in the countries of the visegrad four. this is all viktor orban's rhetoric and all these news from hungary. the level of attitude towards ukrainians in hungary is the same high and positive as in poland, that is, it is many times worse, for example in

to slovakia, it sounds paradoxical to the glue of political rhetoric, but hungarians are ready to play, ready to accept, maybe this is also connected, these numbers there, in my opinion, if i am not mistaken, under 60%, with the fact that not so many ukrainians remain in hungary, hungary is all- after all, it's more of a transit country, it's not, it's not poland in terms of numbers, that's why it's possible that it's related to when the invasion started, i was just working in hungary, i was abroad, and you know, i saw with my own eyes how this society was divided in that budapest when well, everyone said, well, not everyone, but my bubble talked like that about the 56th year, about repetition, about parallels, about atrocities, but there was a part that asked me not like that, you know. very sincerely, dmytro is typical . they say, uh, i don’t know about atrocities and murders , that is, a large part of hungarian society

simply does not understand ukraine. it is also important to understand that a large and perhaps even a majority of hungarian society has been in recent years, and i don’t know the last decades. they read and here learn about ukraine in the form of russian sources because because of this hungarian-russian rapprochement because of cooperation at the media level, well, a large number of media, including state ones, in the first days of the russian-secondary, i used the phrase special military operation, well, that’s so absurdly terrifying, you know, that’s why you know, if you look at hungary from a perspective, this is where we started, the progress is of course colossal , but you have to understand from what bottom hungary started eh well of course we want more they did not help us with weapons in the first months, in contrast to the same bulgaria, so again, this investigation was recently presented, which revealed shocking facts about the western government in which there were pro-russian socialists in the coalition, and there was a

prime minister and the minister of finance is under the nose of the president through private contracts, they supplied ukraine with critically needed soviet weapons and fuel, and what is surprising? well, it is not surprising. by the russians and controlled by the russians and where the russian oil was pumped. that is, it all went to ukraine. by the way, because of a very difficult situation, hungary is still there, its leaders say that we prohibit the transit of weapons through our territory to ukraine, but they simply allowed these weapons, of course, did not enter ukrainian the hungarian border, this shows how much more complicated the picture is, not only orban is the whole of hungary . thank you, pan-tezhian director of the institute of central european strategy, the founder of the ukraine project was brought in by us. and you stay with us and stay also in the regions like us. the marathon continues without delay, stay

with us, congratulations, now we will talk about the very difficult story of this boy from mariupol, who at the beginning of the war found himself in the very epicenter of hostilities, experienced complete horror and, unfortunately, is missing from them the boy hleb cherepanov is 11 years old and has been looking for hleb for almost a year now, his mother is looking for him in russia , ukraine and the police, too, despite the fact that it has been a long time since the disappearance of the past and unfortunately there is no news yet, the woman does not lose hope, she really hopes for your the indifference of this begs to help her in the search for her son, well, the girl is good, you are tired of such a

part, the artists managed to enter, that in the class, gde lusche khorosho poluchalos, a dream is experienced, a very good boy, i am at a disco , ms. victoria told the details of her son's disappearance. so, gleb lived with his mother and grandmother in mariupol and they stayed in the city when there were very fierce battles due to the shelling of hleb. his mother and grandmother left their apartment and hid in the house of their relatives. one day, hleb's mother went out on business. and when she returned, she saw that the house where her son was was hit by a projectile, the man

told me that a charge was hit in it. you are military. all we saw was going to the bomb shelter. shelters and bomb shelters, however. unfortunately, she did not manage to find the boy. on april 14, the birthday of khlebalochka, do calm

down . there was a version about the death of hleb when a shell hit the house. but fortunately, the boy was not found among the dead, so the mother, hlebo, admits that her son could have been injured. maybe he received a concussion and partially lost his memory because of this, he cannot tell anything about himself, and that is why i am asking you especially residents of mariupol who can see this program on the internet, look carefully at the boy's face, bread, about 150 cm tall, he has blond hair and brown eyes on his face near his mouth, three moles in the shape of a triangle, hleba's mother really hopes for your help and indifference, the institute met deeply ili мы мамы котельня paulma please, any information can be

useful , please contact the police. free from all mobile operators number 116 000 000 is also very please just now share this app in your social networks the more people see this video the more there will be chances to find the boy, let's not be indifferent, let's try to find hleb cherepanov together