[000:00:00;00] i gave you these two and a half hours of viktoria little light on bohdan masha and we say goodbye, our broadcast continues, it is continued by our colleagues, maria skyba, maksym sikora, who will appear here very soon . each of these attacks is the alleged fate of people , let's tell just one such story about one family of satanists from a curlew, fleeing from russian shelling, adults covered their children with themselves, three were seriously injured and a girl died , how they managed to save a one-year-old to debrete one-year-old nazarchyk and four-year-old oleksiy and what are the chances of survival for those who were killed by a russian projectile . borovyk will tell now .

husband and sons on the day of the tragedy, russian shells fell very close to their house , all eight men and adults and children who lived in this house. it's a pity the shelling caught them here in these forest lanes, what's wounded, and there's a house on the mountains, well, i rushed here, i ran here, when i saw what was happening at the place of the explosion, volodymyr was horrified, they were lying nearby , where there was blood, a neighbor called an ambulance, and he himself tried to stop the steps, it didn't take long, they confess, they stitched people up in parts, because the shrapnel literally cut the bodies of oksana satanina had already come to her senses. after the shelling, she reached the nearest

neighbors to call for help. i was still a small child, i covered them with you, then my hand was warm, the woman recalls how at first everyone sat in the basement , waiting for the shelling, but the shelter was unreliable and the earth fell on their heads , then they decided to run to the neighbors for shelter oksana anna died on the spot without a mother, there were two small children, the merchant lyosh, and he didn’t even understand anything how old he was 4 , nothing nazarchyk, of course, their father is in intensive care, their grandfather and bom had an operation , they are in a serious condition on medication blood pressure support well, we hope everything will be fine, love is still a card that

did not have time to bring my son and his family to the border with the weight. the less people, because this area is actually under attack every day, here you see this destroyed house, the consequences of one of the enemy shellings , this is a whole street kilometers from the border with hollows literally in the last two months they say the locals are selling cattle, he is getting ready, generous neighbors are moving out, because living under daily enemy fire is no longer our strength , we are left here on the street, they live in this house she is paralyzed, lying on the bed blind well, i am now on disability, he is two disabled people, he lives there, there are three houses left, a neighbor lyudmila

also wants to leave, but no one has seen them, they are afraid . everyone is coming here from the sumy region. to understand the words of the teachers , to forget, to erase yesterday, to find among the ruins tomorrow, to laugh again in the morning, to sing again in the evening, to fall asleep with calm eyes, to live again thanks to the courage of ukrainians, to live in peace and evil, thanks to you

, when the light goes out everywhere, they continue to fight for life every day, every day, every second during the war and hospitals have become fortresses of light where they heal not only the body and the soul through fatigue and pain, they continue to protect the light of hope, their reward is our smiles and hugs, their joy is another saved person they know the price

every life therefore preserves the light inside us. we are grateful to the doctors who continue to save people despite the darkness outside the window. thank you. they left their homes and evacuated from dangerous regions. in need of financial or humanitarian support. call the crisis hotline of the ministry of reintegration at 15.48 or contact the hotline of the authorized internally displaced persons number +38 066 813-62-39 specialists will provide qualified advice if it is temporarily occupied territories contact the hotline ministries by number, what to see on the screen through the messenger whatsapp, telegram or viber 1548, we will help you, share these tips, it can save you, an information marathon is underway, the only news for you is the channel team, we are ukraine, maria skyba , maksym sikora, now in the studio, right away let's get

to the important news, or rather to maps of air alarms, it is very important now , please be alert, do not ignore the air alarm signals, let's think together about our safety, just now you see it on the screens chernihiv, kyiv, zhytomyr vinnytsia cherkasy kirovohrad poltava kherson luhansk oblast and the autonomous republic of crimea are now red and so please don't ignore us. we already know that a system has been launched from russia that can hit our critical infrastructure facilities . on his official telegram channel that air defense forces are working in the kyiv region , the danger has not disappeared, stay in shelters, in

principle, it is the same as staying in shelters also apply to other areas that masha has already mentioned, friends, do not delay your safety and the safety of your loved ones, stay in shelters until the air alert is lifted, companies , we will continue to talk about how the countries of the civilized world help us in countering russian aggression. therefore, in the united states of america, all countries were called to activate military aid to the country, this was announced by a representative of the us state department net price, according to him, in some cases , it is about replenishing the armed forces with weapons that the ukrainians already have in their arsenal, however new types of weapons are needed, at the same time washington will not tell allies and partners what exactly needs to be provided to ukraine, price noted this, we are adding igor eisenberg to our conversation, he is a professor at new york university, he is with us now on a live call igor, we welcome you on the air greetings,

friends glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, igor, well , now you see how many ratings have been given, in particular , to the statements of the american president joseph biden regarding the fact that ukraine should receive and receives everything it needs, as well as an interesting moment that joseph biden announced in fact in his briefing in yesterday's counter-offensive of ukraine. we are asking you to comment on these rather serious statements from the american president . he constantly adheres to such a position. it is fundamental for him for two reasons. first, he is simply the president of the united states. he believes that a democratically free ukraine, which restored

its sovereign borders in 1991 , is recognized by the world as being in the interests of the united states. of the united states of america, the weakening of russia is also in the interests of the united states of america. well, for the peckish, it is fundamentally a very important thing simply because of his personal beliefs , because he is a person who is deeply devoted to the values ​​of democracy, human rights, and freedom, so for him , because of these two factors that are preserved for he has such a very strong and significant position there. well, he believes that ukraine must be supported , supported until victory, supported after victory, so that it can recover, he is constantly working to ensure that er, there was joint assistance from all nato

allies. this is quite a difficult job. look at many countries that join nato. there are 30 countries. some of them have their own specific views on certain situations, and it is not always easy to reach an agreement on a completely common position, and if today we say, well, in our time, today according to kyiv time, it is already thursday eh, that is, yesterday and joe baid was not in shock, we said, let's say , that there had never been such eh close eh relations between the united states and germany, which is now what is not, and emphasized that there has never been such unity and allies of the panat that exists now , then this is a great merit of jubaiden, because it sometimes costs quite a lot of effort, but it is very good that such unity, which in ukraine, helps very, very

many countries and regulations do it very sincerely igor ukraine, the ukrainian military, ukrainian diplomats have been working for a very long time to get weapons, tanks, and ammunition to ukraine soon, and we know about these difficult conversations during the rammstein meeting of key partners of key military players. what do you think that it became a key factor for the usa in order to transfer to us the weapons that biden said about. i think there were two factors here . i take the first factor to be the decision to transfer abram tanks to ukraine. this is all a political decision, because as biden found out for himself, well i think that he actually said about this what defense minister austin told him to ask about germany

. it is very important that the e-e communication of states a agrees to supply ukraine with tanks to avram in the studio of germany can make a decision on the supply of leopard tanks and to allow other countries to supply leopark tanks, that is, on the one hand, it was such a political decision , on the other hand, it is this decision . to achieve success on the battlefield eh because here i think the decisive factor in this case was precisely the political factor because it was proved that it is important to preserve the unity eh of the allies and you understand that abrams has a problem eh which consists in the fact that it is very complex tanks for their use, they are the most powerful in the world, but as all the american generals say, let's say in

their interviews, they are very difficult to master . that is, it takes time to spend the night for the crew, it takes time to adjust their technical support, and all this is much easier with leopard tanks, but joe biden absolutely deliberately went for it because it opened the possibility for germany to make its decision and it opened the possibility to supply ukraine with such modern tanks, and by the way, it is very important that from another point of view, what does this mean that ukraine will receive three battalions, even more , taking into account the british challenger tanks , very modern, powerful tanks that are the main tanks in nato's service, this will be another step for ukraine

to nato in such an indirect way, but ukraine has armed itself more and more with the weapons used by nato countries. well, at this very moment, with the comments you refer to regarding the difficulty of using such a technological tank as , for example, the abrams, it seems to me that there is the reverse side of the coin and it consists in the fact that why such a question why did we not hear any similar statements when it came to the transfer of patriot batteries - this is also a rather complicated thing that requires the simultaneous presence of uh, so few in the number of 90 specialists for one battery, we are so i mean, what does it mean, constantly many times and again from military commentators from press secretaries and the ministry of defense of the state department.

to ukraine, but here it was sounded a lot of times, or petriv, petriv is a very complex system and , like the abrams tanks, the road is definitely more expensive than a tangent, because one battery is five years, well, it is, well, under a billion under a billion dollars a-a and that's why yes, this is really training for the use of petri, well, according to the american protocols, it can take 6 months. i hope that the ukrainian military, which is already undergoing training, will come sooner, well, this is also a complex system. look when the case is transferred. interesting there was an interview on this topic by general fergyung on the rashkin record channel. i helped translate it just yesterday so that he could be heard by general hurt, he is the former commander of the us armed forces in europe

. he explained that this is one of of the main factors that determine what exactly transmits this in ukraine how quickly the armed forces of ukraine will be able to take this weapon and use it on the battlefield, and because especially in the first stages of the war, somewhere after february 24, this was given special importance because it was believed that it was impossible to delay need to to transfer to ukraine what can be used right away in the field of pain without delay without any pauses , i think this situation has changed because , well, first of all, american specialists and military specialists from other countries see attached how quickly can the ukrainian military learn to use one or another weapon, by the way

, the same general hersing and general hodges , let's say. a week ago in an interview, they emphasized that they were impressed by how quickly the military of the armed forces of ukraine master a weapon that is very complex, that it was believed that it would take much more time to master it, that's why the assessments are changing, so what can be provided to ukraine so that it can use this weapon as soon as possible. many times that this is a complex system that and it cannot be used . so right now, well, look, in ukraine , another air defense system was provided, let 's say a week. the relevant ukrainian military that will be used by the patriots when they finish this training. ukraine receives three batteries. the patriot hopes that this will happen

soon, within the next maximum of 2-3 months. another interesting information is provided by the financial times about the fact that the united states themselves are actually interested in the supply of abrams to ukraine. states and the defense complex in general, because the city of lima is where these tanks are assembled and manufactured . it has been around for a long time. but let's say there was not enough work because, as the finance challetimes write, the military is already focused on defense from the sky and was mostly engaged in the development of aircraft and various air technologies. and now , the military is again coming to the city of limo for that purpose and designers in order to assemble and develop further these systems, these tanks , is it true that, well, in this way

, it is actually beneficial for the united states to develop this industry. let's say what should be supplied to ukraine, what should be supplied to other allies in europe and the pentagon, e.e. he revised very significantly the types of weapons that are needed in their order e.e. by companies that produce weapons e.e. because it turned out that weapons are needed much more than ever planned well, never uh in american military planning you should never have planned this is such a very long uh war without the use of nuclear weapons with russia uh it was simply believed that if the united states there will be a military conflict, either with the soviet union or later with russia, that within hours or a few days, a nuclear war has sprouted, and therefore not a lot of

conventional weapons are needed. well, it turned out now that this is not the case, that russia attacked ukraine and where the war is the use of e-e air-conditioned weapons and it is necessary to know a lot and it is necessary to know more than it, therefore orders are not only for tanks from orders for other types of weapons, not ammunition, but let's say we found out what is needed to significantly increase the production of artillery shells ostap and that 105 mm, for example, because the united states has transferred more than a million of such projectiles to ukraine, and if production will be at the same level as it was last in recent years, then it will take 5 years to restore only this stock, but ukraine needs more more of these projectiles and it is necessary that they be in the american armed forces . that is, it means that it is necessary to increase their

production, and this applies to other ammunition of the weapon ecosystem, as well as the placement of new orders for the production of new farmers, etc. and so on. that is, it is not only about tanks, it really happens in many branches of the military-industrial complex, they are igor . thank you for taking the time to talk to us. communication, information marathon, the only news continues, tell me honestly, how are you holding up now , this answer is relevant for me because you have responsibility for your family, for your children, you have work to do

, we survive and we are obliged to go through it and we we will definitely survive, focus on your legs, lift one of them and make an active movement as if you are trying to shake something off yourself , well, as if the dogs are shaking, i have just recovered from the water, at the same time, try to relax as much as possible the leg of which you are doing your hands, then do exactly the other one further to the right behind your hands, perform the exercise alternating the direction several times and imagines that together with the movements you gradually shake off all the negativity that you have accumulated add this technique to your self-help first aid kit more here the war does not look at all like in the movies but dirty, cold and terrible war smells like blood, war leaves its mark on everyone who has been there, remember this when you see

a person in a military uniform, he looks like that, she has eyes, remember what price our heroes pay every day, we respect them, we thank them , we help them and we will definitely win thanks to them, collaborators are considered those who support russian aggression, are engaged in the spread of russian propaganda, support or hold a referendum in the occupied territories, cooperate with the occupiers for obtaining positions or carrying out tasks set by the occupying power if a person provided housing to the occupiers, provided them with food or passed on information about ukrainian defenders of representatives of the authorities or their location, these people will receive real terms of imprisonment up to 15 years of imprisonment, but if a person found himself in

the occupation and simply continued perform her duties without harming ukraine or under the threat of death - this does not mean that she is a third-time collaborator 24 on the clock we continue we do not get tired of repeating that let's be safe, please. if you are now in the region where the siren is sounding and where there is an air alarm now, where the siren is sounding, please go to the shelter, do not ignore it, and we can already see what is happening. nikopolska in the dnipropetrovsk region and pervomaiska in the mykolaiv oblast, well, to the team on the territory of ukraine, missiles are flying at our cities and yours , which cost russia millions of dollars

every minute, there are already these calculations, we will talk about it further let's talk. who is actually financing this system and what does it all consist of? let's talk about it further. 177 companies with foreign capital have completely exited the russian market. and this is only six percent of the total number. relevant data were published in the report of the kyiv school of economics in the process of exiting the russian market. almost 1,200 companies, approximately 40%, at the same time 16% of companies still remain in the game although they turned their operations, experts note, and another 40% continue active cooperation with the russian market without any restrictions 1022 year decreased by 35%, because of the war unleashed by russia, the monthly budget deficit of our state is estimated at 5 billion dollars, this is evidenced by the data published in the un report

, according to analysts, even the allocation of 18 billion euros by the european union will not significantly affect the situation , because russian attacks in terms of infrastructure , the paralyzed production of metallurgical products and the blocking of ports create additional crises in connection with us roman sheremeta, professor of economics at case western university, rector of the american university kyiv, good night, congratulations. good evening, ukraine, congratulations. well, until the morning, it’s about roman, but that’s not the point. let’s start with the ukrainian economy, after all , here we are. you understand all this time, after the large-scale russian invasion , we think in terms of billions of billions of dollars. we talked in summer and autumn about the fact that the deficit of the ukrainian budget on the spot is 3 billion e.e. now we have another estimate published in the report of the united nations organization that it is already five billion and when we

talk about the level of aid from our european and american partners, well, basically, now we are talking about europe with 18 billion that promise no support, and can these 18 billion really change the situation, because in principle, this will be enough. well, for three and a half months, of course, if we are talking purely about the aid that comes from the european union, it is not enough , that is, these 18 billion. as you have already noted, it is correct that if a deficit of 5 billion every month is suddenly enough for four months, but in addition to the european union, there are also individual countries that they help ukraine, and besides that there is also the united states of america and other players, in addition to these countries, we also have the world bank, the imf, we also have the forever

investment. that is, these are companies that will conduct business and still we have an optimistic forecast for 2023, even from the side of, let's say, moody or jp morgane or golden saxa , what is it now, for example, he is not wrong yet predicts that the economy of ukraine will recover by about 10% in 2023 , so in principle the situation is difficult very difficult but the european uh, this aid for 18 billion is not for us, it is the only thing that will not solve the problem, but in combination with all the other aid that goes to ukraine, i think that we will be able to survive the year 2023, let's say so, without serious interruptions of course, it also depends on how intense the war will be and how russia will continue shelling, but you understand that russia

already does not have that force, they already have the missiles that they launched, they already do not have them in that amount, so we uh physical escalation there on the line front, after all, we received the fact that this year will be much better for ukraine. i also wanted to ask you about those instruments that, in principle, are also used by the ukrainian government and the national bank, but the day before, there was interesting information that for the first time in a long time , the ovdp, yes, the bond of the domestic state loans, but this happened only because a new interest rate was applied to them in the short-term vdp. that is, it increases even more, it is very expensive for us because in a year or two