has the right to find out only one thing was or was not, and if there was an offense, then without any mitigating circumstances, he is obliged to immediately give a very hard sentence directly related to deprivation of liberty without any options. i am here. i want to add that i spoke with representatives of the defense and intelligence committee of the verkhovna rada, for example, serhii rakhmanin and roman kostenko, who is a military man, they did not vote for this bill and they criticized it, but we also tried to talk to another representative of the committee for this broadcast profiled by fedor of vinyslavsk, unfortunately he was not able to join the broadcast, but he voted for this law. we would definitely also like to listen to those parliamentarians who supported it, yevgeny, what is their motivation, if you are pushing back from nato standards, and the ukrainian army is supposedly moving towards nato, there are similar laws let's do it here. nato standards do not matter at all. nato standards do not apply

to criminal law. nato standards do not apply to the constitutional law of ukraine. criminal punishment in each country is different, and i'm sorry. i'm not an expert. you're looking for a specialist in the criminal law of different countries . well, with the constitution, you know that punishment is generally a right that is written in the constitution of ukraine, but we have a separate one for that. an absolutely independent branch of government, which is called the judicial branch, what is it, pay attention, it is called the extreme one, it is called the judicial branch, this is justice. it must establish the circumstances and determine who to punish and the right to reduce the punishment. it is constitutional and we now have the situation now, even though i have already started with the practical consequences of this step, that we are a bunch of normal law-abiding people who have made a mistake once, we will throw them in prison instead of them

continuing to fight. to replace, but this is practice, and from a legal point of view, we are 700,000 people today, and more are added to them , and why did we deprive the people who protect us and you from protecting the constitution? they were deprived of one deprived of their constitutional rights, well, that’s it in general. it’s something unpleasant. sorry, it’s not to nato, it’s more likely to the venice commission. how is he there? it’s already gone . by the way, i’m wondering if anyone has an oscar - one of those who have the right to submit their own submission to the constitutional to the court or will i challenge this law in the constitutional court, well, again, it is difficult to say how the constitutional court will work in conditions of war, but uh, well, here you don't even need to be a professional lawyer to simply read two articles of the constitution and this law simply to see that this is absolutely clear, one thing contradicts another, the only thing i can sum up for sure is that we will definitely return to this topic

. i can see from the reactions of our viewers who are watching that i have many questions for this draft law and for the people who adopted it , at least according to the draft law already the law is already legal, so to the people who passed it and listen to their motivation, thank you very much evgeny dyky, how about commanding the aidar battalion, we talked about the law that provides for increased punishment for military personnel, people's deputy mykola tyshchenko was expelled from the party the servant of the people for his trip to thailand the head of the political force olena shulyak informed about the expulsion of tishchenko from the party, and tishchenko was also dismissed from the position of deputy head of the servant of the people faction and they have not decided yet. this story developed rapidly today . in the afternoon, the embassy of ukraine in thailand announced that tomorrow, january 27 , a meeting will be held in bangkok with mykola tyschenko to

discuss issues of improving cooperation with by representatives of the ukrainian community, this is verbatim despite the fact that the meeting itself was not supposed to take place in the embassy building, but in the four-star novotel hotel. well , the questions immediately arose : why is tyshchenko conducting this meeting? why is he in thailand at all, and is he there on vacation ? literally on january 23, president volodymyr zelenskyi announced the effect of the decision of the national security council , according to which officials during martial law can travel outside the country only on business trips, but the chairman of the supreme council ruslan stefanchuk stated that mykola tyshchenko did not travel abroad and did not sign the order for a business trip to thailand , and despite the fact that tyshchenko was dismissed from his position in the faction and expelled from the party, questions still remain on what grounds mykola tyshchenko left ukraine since the beginning of the invasion for a long time spent in transcarpathia , according to him, he performed the tasks set before him by the president. in the summer, he was dismissed from the post of chairman of the transcarpathian regional

organization, a servant of the people, due to various reputational scandals. he is also known for organized a party during the quarantine in the restaurant of the fergman hotel in honor of his wife's birthday, where in particular some people's deputies from the servant of the people came, and also mykola tyshchenko is the best man of the head of the office of president andriy yarmak. well, mykola tyshchenko, despite the fact that he is excluded from the party faction, he remains a people's deputy and at least so far there is no talk of drafting a mandate political scientist candidate of political sciences igorreyterovych joins the air late everything should have ended with some kind of grand scandal, i don't know, or simply the cup of patience should have overflowed in the representatives of the party of which mr. tyshchenko is a member, well, since there were simply too many factors that coincided here and the presidential decree on

the implementation of the decision of the national security and defense council and the country from which he decided to appeal to his voters, uh, well, to his fellow citizens and the latest events related to the fight against corruption, there are certain dismissals that we saw in the office of the president and directly in the structures of the executive power. it seems to me that they led to the fact that this is today's top topic, which extremely interrupted all other topics, which in itself already, well, excuse me , it looks a little strange and scary, because we have well , there is a war going on, there are hostilities there in various areas of the front, but i will focus all the attention on this character who is going for the first time, in fact, there is already a scandal, and there is one more nuance here. let's try to be even the devil's advocate. if you look at the formalities, he did not violate the prohibitions. new from abroad

since there was an official notification from the state border service today that this mechanism , which was put into effect by the decision of the national security council, has not yet been worked out, firstly , secondly, he went abroad a few days ago. confirmed information that everyone knew very well where he was going, he had the appropriate instructions to organize some communication meetings with our diplomats abroad and so on . in principle, he writes. there she is, yes, that's why here, you know, in different countries, no, he was better silent because he was photographed in a military uniform , where he had a call sign called titan, so i think that it is precisely 70 connected here . titan can only do titanic work, of course to do yes, but it turned out so that he was injured. but in principle, based on the totality of everything that he did not do until today , but well, it looks like they decided to punish him as harshly as possible, just for show, to show that, well, everyone is equal and the government will not be

to figure out who represents which political party and that he simply already became a personal enemy for someone and he was decided this is how to get rid of him in political political power as far as i know in the service of the people he is not a personal enemy to anyone long ago by the way they forbade him to take part in some serious, serious matters, that is, he did not engage in any projects. he did not fulfill the president's instructions, as he said before , he was minimally present even in the information and public sphere because, well, for by and large i understand that some people put a block there and told him not to shine, but he tried somehow to enlighten me with the projects, well, the car-stars that were distributed by the deputy because he refers to a meeting in the park, well, this is the headquarters, in essence , the place where the servant of the people sits down to drive communicate communicate well he did it as he was used to doing it in principle uh and

since it was again emphasize enough demonstratively enough demonstrative well such a reaction was caused. press arkhamia said that currently an online survey is being conducted in the public service regarding whether mykola tyshchenko should be excluded from the faction of the parliamentary faction , that is, the question has not yet been asked . statement, but what is the value of this violation of quarantine restrictions in the midst of the coronavirus there, he threw a party in a hotel and even after that he was not expelled from either the party or the faction and was called influential deputy in the president's circle, i don't know, maybe his influence was exaggerated, but he was not touched, this is a fact well, he was not touched at that time, because they believed that the rating and the development of the situation in general allows not to give in. and he had influence here, we are not talking about exaggeration

well, of course, he did not demonstrate such success in those positions where he was, this is a separate story , well, he was given chances, he was given enough chances now, i will repeat it once again, so the stars, probably, and the circumstances happened that it was impossible to simply ignore this scandal and you know, i wouldn't even be surprised if he was almost specially inspired to throw out the most odious scandalous deputy from the party from the faction, while there are many other questions for other deputies who hold, you know, more serious positions and let's not go too far to the leader of the party. there are even questions related to the scandalous law. well , it is true that it has not been signed by the president yet. we hope that this will not happen with regard to urban planning and how she promoted this law when she came to visit, for example, to of our wounded and military men who were in rehabilitation for treatment in kyiv, therefore, against all this background, against the background of scandals within the faction, against the background of the fact that

criminal cases have been opened against many deputies by the national anti-corruption bureau regarding illegal enrichment or some strange inconsistencies with the above declarations. well, really this sacrifice, give it , it looks like this well, as specially prepared , fattened, decorated, brought out to this such a frontal place well, and demonstratively brought to victim. i would like to be wrong and not think that this is some special prepared single case, but let's just watch for literally a few weeks what will happen within the faction within the party, if there are no other personnel changes , well, then everything from this story will be clear. i know that i want to remind you, in fact, how mykola tyshchenko ended up in the team, the servant of the people, very deliciously, this was once described in his material by roman romanyuk, a journalist of ukrainian pravda who investigated this issue, so he writes that there was a meeting in the office

president in kyiv, who should be put forward as a majoritarian, and in the 219th district they wanted to let one very odious prosecutor , everyone started protesting, and then so a man stood up from the second row behind zelensky , it was yarmak, and said i have a candidate for this district, the media will easily sell him kolya tyshchenko zelensky looked like this, raised his hand up and kissed his biceps, blaming tyshchenko this kolya, he is already stupid, this quote was told by one of the participants of that meeting, which, however, ended for tyshchenko successfully, you say that now let's watch for a few weeks and there will be some markers that will show you, did they make a sacral sacrifice out of the tishchenk as a lightning rod, or do they still start to persecute and order even their own invitations? and what will these markers be for you ?

hung up for a bit, i didn't hear you said that we will see it after all, even our own, so if there is something to be punished for, did mykola tyshchenka and i decide to make such a sacred sacrifice, so what will happen to these markers, how will we understand what this is or what they even catch up with their own, yes, yes, we will understand it very simply. it is very simple if some people are excluded from the faction , for example, criminal cases have been opened there about some of whom have questions from the national anti-corruption bureau of ukraine, or at least it will be stated that they are not there for the period of these investigations will be members of the faction and , of course, they will be able to keep their mandates there, because there is a large part of the majoritarians. then it will be a marker that there is really a fight against corruption, a fight against some unscrupulous deputies, but i am currently like this i don't see. well, i'll give you one example. here we have a delegation in the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe that performs a very important function, well , regarding the protection of ukraine and the protection of the interests of ukraine, but all factions, all delegations, there are some

deputies from the pro-government party against whom such cases are opened. no less, they travel calmly on this business trip, although potentially they can, for example, stay in that country and never return, but this factor is not taken into account, so here we have to look at other, less shadowy matters. that is where there will not be such scandalously hyped surnames as the surname of tishchenka, if there will be no such people and such cases will also remain, and the leadership of the servant of the people will also remain , although there were rumors that it may be changed , no decisions will be made in relation to many other deputies. well, then this will definitely mean what is this letting off steam? by the way, what by the way, for now, well, according to my usually subjective belief, there are also the most recent personnel changes that took place in our office, which are in the president's office, and in principle, in the cabinet ministers are here. the question is whether it will continue. well, what surnames will appear there, and there should be other surnames of people who headed very important committees of people who came to power, and after a few years they and

their family members became extremely rich , so if all this is not it will be, well, then it will be possible just another such show, but nevertheless, which was very well received by the citizens who even felt a certain justice in the fact that you want in this way but nevertheless, the most odious deputy was punished, well, i agreed so far andriy klitschko became a deputy, for example, whose mother bought a lot of cars and real estate, or the same pavlo halimon, who settled in the pechersky hills, and as for tyshchenko , there may be another option that he will be expelled from the party from the faction, but he will still remain in the the team is just unofficial, the truth is, he is already a majority member, so the mandate will not be taken away from him and he can go to work calmly to put pressure here between tyshchenko and we , for example, so you know there are now certain

reasons to believe that this was developed the combination, well, at least the speed of the decisions that were made today, it is not typical for our politics at all, even during the war, because according to the same mr. halimon whom you mentioned, for example, the decision was made not so radical, not so quickly , due to what well, probably due to the fact that this mr. well, let's face it frankly, it's not that the vast majority of ukrainian citizens don't know him and my colleagues, and i especially don't know there either, because he didn't become famous for anything in those positions, well, what he held or in the context of his deputy activity, but here the story is completely different here, about this person everyone knows about this person from different sides and, of course, they will discuss it for a very long time well, here i also have to say thank you to mykola himself, he did everything possible to make sure that everyone knew about him even with this incident in thailand, if he had not told him about it, had not written to him about this incident , arrange it in this way and type it there . do so. hold meetings with the citizens

of ukraine who are there. even such a story. it may be because he has already constantly said that he is a soldier of the president, what will he be told in the office where you will not comply, but someone could have advised him so, he did , and now he is really writing in the party chat in such a righteous anger oh what is going on, you all knew perfectly well where i was going, and now it turns out that you are all in white and i am bad, that's why this story looks from the outside, so we have to wait for the decision, and i will certainly hear the person involved in this story himself , so that he probably gathers journalists there. explain about how it all happened, does he think such a decision is correct, and what does he plan to do in the future? well, i will also add that we contacted the state border service, it is still interesting how exactly mykola tyshchenko left the country or did he have a business trip ruslan stefanchuk says that there were no diplomatic passports

. as far as i understand, the absolute majority of deputies were taken away, that is , he had to go with some purpose, at least he had to have some tasks on his hands, even if they were not announced for him verbally. as you said and to him, and to mykola mykolayovych tyshchenko himself. we also addressed him, but he has not yet responded. we will gladly give him the opportunity to speak if he wants. thank you very much , ihor itarovych, a political scientist with a phd in political science. we were on radio svoboda. called a big process regarding donbas , the european court of human rights found it partially acceptable this is between the state complaint of ukraine and the netherlands on systematic violations of human rights in the occupied donbas, the substantive consideration of the case is ahead, however, the recognition by the european court the ukrainian side already considers its jurisdiction regarding consideration of this case against russia to be its interim victory, because this decision in strasbourg confirmed that

de facto from may 11, 2014, it was russia in the first place, and not some separatists there , who carried out the control of donbas, what is the practical benefit of such a decision for ukraine and ukrainians, how to force russia to comply with it and what political weight will this verdict have radio svoboda spoke in strasbourg with the deputy minister of justice of ukraine iryna mudra the euro court also recognized that de facto from 2014 the temporarily occupied territories of donbas were controlled by the russian federation, not the separatists . what does this mean? this is a powerful political step. this is a powerful legal step and a legal decision, as it will ensure further consideration of individual applications of ukrainian citizens submitted to the european court of human rights. of people , including in relation to the losses they suffered in the east of ukraine, these are natural persons and legal entities , as well as for investment lawsuits, this will also be

a sufficient argument that russia exercised effective control over the russian military are present on the territory of the donetsk luhansk regions since april 2014 and these ongoing actions were until january 26 , 2022, until the hearing of the case at the european court of human rights. we remember that the russian delegation when it was present at at the start of the hearings, it was exactly a year ago, she insisted that these areas were under the control of the separatists, why was it important to prove that it was under the control of russia and not the separatists, actually because they always said that we were not there, but it turned out that we were there, and the court found that it was thanks to the military political financial assistance of the russian federation, the physical presence of the military of the russian federation, that russia was there, it was important because it was important to prove

that russia was planning to take over ukraine , starting with crimea and eastern ukraine, and starting in 2014, the russian authorities announced that all judgments of the european court of human rights issued after march 15, 2022. it does not fulfill how it opens the way for applicants, that is, it will have that practical benefit which you mentioned, if you are going to ignore the decision, russia wants to think that it will not be responsible for and implement the decision of the european court, but this is not the case , in addition to the fact that the decision has a strong political weight, this decision is also a legal one, and of course there are currently no legal instruments to to take this decision and go somewhere to implement it, for example, according to the decisions of investment arbitrations, but ukraine will have this decision for or holding negotiations with russia when and with whom it will talk and when this moment will come

i also want to note here that ukraine is looking for ways to monetize the decisions of the european court of human rights, we expect that the states will still find legal instruments that will enable the confiscation of assets, and such a commission should be operational within a year by the end of 2023 , at least this is the goal of the ukrainian government and we are actively discussing with our partners, ivan lishchyna , deputy minister of justice of ukraine , commissioner for the affairs of the european court of human rights, joined the broadcast at 4:21 p.m. greetings, good today at the hearings in the esl as part of the case ukraine and the netherlands against russia, the ukrainian side proves that the occupation of donbass began in april 2014 now when

the big war is going on and why is it so important because it shows that all the events that took place starting from the 14th year in the crimea in the eastern and southern regions of ukraine including the donbass kharkiv or odesa. it was all part of the plan of the russian federation on the collapse of ukraine from the middle, that is why the establishment of this fact has such a political and diplomatic significance; besides, it has, of course, a legal significance, because it opens up opportunities, establishes the facts of effective control by the russian federation over donbas since the 14th year , and opens up opportunities for citizens and businesses and legal entities to submit appropriate lawsuits to the russian federation specifically to the russian federation for expropriated

, nationalized or simply taken property on this territory. well, what does this mean now in in the conditions of the war, this gives you the opportunity to file lawsuits and collect money from the russian federation, of course we cannot take this decision of the european court to fill the trenches of the russian occupiers with them and win the family, of course , this is impossible, because the legal document has a different nature, but in that at the same time, it creates the basis for further further negotiations by the russian federation regarding compensation for payments regarding the actual responsibility of the russian federation not only for me, of course, for new crimes, but for her er, for murder, for disappearance and other er, widespread violations of human rights which began to begin in the 14th year in this territory.

- firstly, we say that when we talk about such decisions of this nature, we are not talking about bucks , we are talking about some historical periods of time, and it seems to me that i am more than sure that uh, in kinov's account, russia will return to the council of europe and fulfill all decisions of the european court are like this greece once did in the 70s, and that's why, on the one hand, on the other hand, it was absolutely right to say what was said, madam , what was the commission, if any, any compensation mechanism, which is currently being developed and sooner rather than later everything will work, i am not sure that on the 23rd, but in any case it will work, it will include payments and according to the decision of the european court of human rights, that is, people, one way or another, people , legal entities will receive appropriate compensation, the ministry of justice of ukraine

, which represents the interests of government in this in the interstate case against russia regarding donbas, we are sure that the decision will be made in favor of kyiv. you are also sure of this. to prove the fact of the pact of effective control on the part of the russian federation, because if it is proven, then the issues are related to massive violations of human rights, well , they are relatively easy to prove, because they are actually the administration and the russian military themselves they did not hide these violations, they even flaunted them for everyone to see and the video of the treatment of our prisoners of war and her well, this is no no no no no the biggest problem the biggest problem was to prove the physical presence of russian troops in

this territory and the government managed to do it a in what period of time do you think this final decision can still be made, give some kind of predictions because, well, the european court is long. well, it is generally any international court for complex cases, it is always good. that is, i think that the decision will be issued within a year or not from two years. well, if er, more or less er, well, er , you can say with some degree of convenience. i think that somewhere within three or four years we will receive a decision on the substance, but once again the most important part is precisely from point of view between the state case was precisely this er-e this decision regarding effective control because in fact the establishment of a violation in specific cases is well, it is a matter of individual individual applications therefore and this gateway for consideration

of individual cases has been opened by the european court for the time being please tell me and here it is decision which we are talking about, which can be adopted, as you say. perhaps in the future 3-4 years it has some connection with the special tribunal, the parallel histories are completely different, the procedure is completely unrelated, thank you very much ivan lyshchyna, deputy minister of justice of ukraine , commissioner for the affairs of the european court of human rights 2016-2021 thank you very much well, in the end, these are, in my opinion, two important news concerning tanks . the minister of defense of canada announced at a briefing today that canada is handing over four leopard 2 tanks to ukraine. i announce that canada will provide ukraine with these four main battle tanks, she said in the coming weeks, this kind of assistance from canada, together with allies and partners, should help the armed forces

of ukraine in their heroic struggle to protect freedom and sovereignty, said the minister of defense, and one more news, it also concerns tanks, but less optimistic france has not yet made a decision regarding the leclerc leclerc - these are french tanks, but they will help with anti-aircraft defense, well, it is reported that the head of the french foreign ministry announced this during her visit to odessa - in odessa today was this visit, she stated that her country has not yet made a decision regarding the tanks, but she said that the communication with the ukrainian authorities on this matter continues and is of a constant, continuous character. therefore, there may be some more updates on this topic. i just want to remind that in fact, as long as the western allies were persuading olaf scholz to give permission for the re-export of leopards to ukraine and foreign media wrote that even macron was ready

, french president macron was ready to offer scholz such a scenario that france transfers a certain number of leclerc tanks to ukraine and thus encourages olaf scholz to sign a permit for the export and re-export of leopards, well, but as we see , such a scenario did not happen because joe biden announced for the first time in the first that the usa was transferring abrams to ukraine but but the leclercs are still hanging in the air and maybe there will be some final decision from france, we will follow this topic. well, by the way, i encourage you to subscribe to the pages of radio svoboda in social networks instagram telegram facebook twitter viber and two channels on youtube radio svoboda and radio svoboda ukraine svoboda life will return to the air tomorrow art in the country of war a series of documentaries each of which will tell about one of the ukrainian artists artists who did not leave abroad