[000:00:00;00] protection and private military campaigns that are trying to literally mobilize these people for the war in ukraine, well, despite all the efforts, it is beautiful to be the number one terrorist in the world, and from the fact that he is doing it, it is similar to him his boss, putin, is far away, one way or another, the hague tribunal shines and is already very close, in particular, in view of the decisions that were made the day before in the e territorial defense of the armed forces of ukraine candidate of political sciences ihor romanenko was with us as a centurion of the chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine

from 2006 to 2010. mr. ihor is with us now. we wish each other good health. i congratulate you. 20 or maybe 50 tanks of european production, yes, that is, it can be leopards, it can be challengers, how can it affect the course of events on this part of the front, well, on the tactical level, if 20 are all two years old, they are somehow modern, it will be serious, but for areas and 50 especially you there is more than a battalion, yes, a battalion of a tactical group, if you start two , it is possible, then there will be an impact at this level, but if you satisfy, for example, what was proposed by the commander-in-chief, general

zaluzhny, that is, we remember that 300 tanks, 600-700 combat armored personnel carriers machines e 500 gal without well there is further now the question is asked there and it is clear that there is a fight for those rods for planes and for missiles from the derby the ball is more than 100 km then there will be a corresponding impact, that is, 300 tanks , this is a brigade and more is already going on ours and e if it is used in a weak spot where the enemy is unexpectedly, this effect will already be at the level of the apparatus, well, operationally, it is such actions as we had in the kharkiv direction or in the kherson direction, but if you add that in the krug directions, such achievements can be made there, then it can turn into a strategic

performance of the task, that is, a collapse, for example the enemy's defenses in the south are stopped, his movements in the east are stopped, they are forced to move to the defense and carry out their actions there of an offensive nature, and so on. in this way, just when mr. zaluzhnyi was talking about the number of armored vehicles, we went there we count all armored personnel carriers and even these light french wheeled tanks, yes. well, it’s good that you noticed this one, because the name of the wheeled tank is a tank , but there is a 105 mm gun, that is, the shells are not nato standard, but french specifics , pants, a big tower, and in general, this is like such an armored car for that is, there er, so er, you can act er with caliber

7.62, but if it is more, it will already penetrate the armor, you understand, so excuse me, i will explain simply why i want to clarify this for personal understanding for our viewers if you start from those numbers, what commander-in-chief zalognyi said he needs in order to win, it turns out that now, well, at least on paper, the largest percentage of satisfaction of this need is precisely in armored vehicles, yes, no, a share is also in tanks, that is, not those tanks, which are heavy and basic tanks for the british, french, germans, americans, such as abrams, leopard, challenger, liquor, and here are the t-72 tanks . well, it is possible that it is modernized, it is possible that it is soviet, but if we follow the

american algorithm, does someone give them something modern we get what we need from the soviet union, and this is also because we can quickly layer it, we have more. well, somewhere more, somewhere less , more and more ammunition is available for this, if they are, and that's why these tanks appear quickly, and why exactly is the leopard considered optimal for for us , it is a tank that is widespread in europe. and repair that

it is more suitable for performing exactly such a task, well, this does not mean that the abrance will be worse, or there is already a second one, or the liquor is the same , but these opinions mean that such approaches are very much criticized at the expense of this technique, they say that it is not very maneuverable, that they need to be manually recharged british challengers, what do you say, mr. igor, i didn't hear the question , unfortunately, there is no, they cut off the electricity and there is already some kind of connection.

the technique has few recruiting maneuvers and they need to be manually reloaded, the following circumstances occur, but we can say that it is better than the 72 or not, it decides the best and it adds to your potential to fight the enemy , it definitely adds, and that is why i am now to you i'm asking a question, would you take it or something? whether it's a stick or a pitchfork, what do i add to your opportunities, and at a serious level , do you release where there are flaws , there you've avoided it, that means triz? we are smooth others how did you conduct everything with us? we had such questions for the bulat and the bastion, so the bastion is expensive , more effective, after all, others. and for one fruit you could make two chiki or 2.5 bulats there , and if you ask the commander of a tank company

, then what will they give you i was alone. do you have an id for a raft or do i require payment for it? what do you think, answer definitely, give me three or more, and so on. therefore, we need to cross out all the possibilities in the conditions we are in now, this is in such a quick approach, and there we definitely need to move to the perspective actually on the basic but one maximum two, that is, we can do something ourselves or with someone, a tank for example. we are in such conditions where we need to take guns and you t-72 challengers for the abrams desk and all this to train and effectively beat the enemy ihor romanenko deputy chief

of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine in 2006-2010 what's up friends well, what's next on the air of the telethon, a brief overview of the news, ukraine will receive leopard-2 tanks from germany already in march. this was announced by the newly appointed minister of defense of the federal republic of germany, borys historius. he expressed confidence that this equipment will strengthen the combat capability of the armed forces of ukraine and will allow to successfully restore the territorial integrity of ukraine, however, the head of the sphere disagreed with the statement that germany pondered the tank issue for too long, he noted that negotiations were held by the allies on this issue, and it took time, but now the decision has been made was approved and everyone should be satisfied with it, let us remind you that germany for a long time refused to provide ukraine with its main battle tanks and hinted that this would be possible only after similar weapons were handed over to other countries, and so it happened that the decision on

leopards was unblocked after great britain informed about arming ukraine with its challenger tanks, the arrival in ukraine of such modern, powerful and effective weapons as leopards will increase the potential by many times, noted the commander of the tank battalion of a separate tank of the iron brigade with the call sign ukrain says that thanks to the leopards, the ukrainian defenders will be able to work harder to fight as an athlete at a closer distance, while the defenders will master such combat vehicles without problems leopard 2 is one of the most massive main battle tanks in the world , many experts call it the best the first generation of these vehicles entered service in 1979, the tank that germany promised to transfer to ukraine belongs to the penultimate sixth modification, it is a modern machine with reinforced armor, electric

mechanisms of the turret and gun and improved by means of aiming, including thermal imaging. it is well protected, but because of this, its weight exceeds 60 t, 20 t more than the soviet-style tanks with which ukraine is armed, and thanks to the 1500 strong diesel engine, the tank can move at a speed of up to 72 km/h . the main weapons of the leopard are two a6 elongated 120 mm smooth -bore cannon, shells for it are compatible with most nato tanks . the crew of the car is four tankers. well, the speed and quantity of the supply of tanks to ukraine is the most important thing, the president said , stressing the creation of a tank coalition proves an important fact for the world that freedom only gets stronger volodymyr zelensky thanked us president jobain and german chancellor lofosholtz as well as all our allies for their strong support and as united we all work to advance freedom to protect

ukraine and europe, this is a historic achievement of leaders who work now the key of the day is speed and volume speed of training of our military speed of supply of tanks to ukraine volume of tank support we have to form such a tank fist such a fist freedom after the blows of which tyrenia will no longer rise, meanwhile the trophy armored personnel carrier of the destroyed commander of the russian brigade is fighting in the direction of bakhmut, a unique trophy tiger came to bakhmut from the kherson region, earlier it belonged to the commander of the seventh military base of the russian federation, which was liquidated by the armed forces of ukraine, and there were also 12 guards with him the man of the kadyrivians, they drove in another valuable trophy , harrows, transporters, a shot of everything, the russians produced 150 machines of a similar modification, and at

this moment in ukraine, such a trophy only one and the tiger and the shot are now used in hostilities on the side of ukraine , the guys say that both machines are inferior to our and foreign analogues, such was the rapid advance of those enemies there, for example. the task of the first day was advanced to their artillery, we broke through their front edge what kind of positions? well, it's clear that the gunners began to heroically run away, eh, yes, their commander of the ninth military base means that he didn't have much control over the situation that was happening there , that he just drove out on us with his security, eh well, since we didn't know that it was a combi, we didn't take it prisoner, we destroyed it, and there were 12 people with it, the security group also destroyed it . well, what was this car captured for? well, literally two days ago, i was sitting here on the commander's

desk the mission is the arrival of a machine gun, and here it is two days ago, according to lend-lease analogues, it does not stand up at all, but according to the filling, if you take here and there, everything is filled with iveco engine, iveco electrics, all iveco electricity, it is completely russian, russian, here, only the names and everything, and so on from the filling here everything is ivekovska, but the suspension is taken from the btr-8 base, that is, they didn’t come up with anything new, so well, in the meantime, the air alarm is spreading across ukraine. let’s look at the map together. i’ll remind you that in the second 40 of this night , in kharkiv oblast and donetsk oblast, there was repulse eh and now these areas are reddened again, so be vigilant and

stay in shelter if possible, tell me honestly how are you? it was better . i left on the 24th i started trying to meditate, they say it is calming imagine that you have an ax in your hands, put your palms together, take a deep, smooth breath and put your hands behind your head try to tense your hands as much as possible and press your palms together, then with a strong active exhalation, make a sharp movement forward as if you are trying to chop with an ax air repeated the right several times to the feeling of relief add this technique to your self-help kit more

here step by step shot after shot hall after volley battle after battle they are liberating our land from the enemy confidently planned and inevitably step by step up to victory itself. glory to the ground forces of the armed forces of ukraine. russian propaganda is still being manipulated by us, how not to let yourself be deceived. watch out for seven personal conflicts, for example , due to a lack of electricity or a language issue. excessive emotions are a sign of manipulation . the enemy provokes quarrels between ukrainians in order to sow aggression and disbelief, so putinism dreams of destroying ukraine from the inside. observe information hygiene, do not draw into your consciousness

everything that catches your eye, do not believe the enemy spread the truth to the rumors. keep calm and ukraine. oleksandr pavlichenko, executive director of the ukrainian helsinki human rights association , joins our broadcast. oleksandr, our congratulations to you, mr. oleksandr. there are no stages between the state cases of ukraine against russia, because it is known that currently there are 16 in the european court of human rights of active interstate cases initiated by different countries, which deadlines cannot be discussed at the moment, and again, at what stage of consideration they are currently, the european court of human rights the person was recognized as having reached the first stage of admissibility actually and the transfer to the second stage of consideration of the case, in essence, two interstate cases that are related to

the actual conflict with the war that the russian federation started against ukraine in 2014 , this the first case, the decision on which was made in 2020, actually concerns the crimean issues and violations of the european convention on human rights of the russian federation related to the occupation of crimea and the annexation of crimea i this is actually yesterday the decision of the european court of human rights regarding the interstate case that was submitted jointly and the facts of the attachment of three applications, actually one of them from the kingdom of the netherlands and two from ukraine, actually this is a joint state case between ukraine and the netherlands against russia, actually this case so

itself was recognized as admissible and the court came to the second one, more accurately transferred this case to the stage of its consideration on the merits and in fact here we need to talk about the different even the context of the consideration of these cases if we are talking about the first interstate case at that time, russia was an active member of the council of europe and was in the system of the european convention on human rights, in fact , it was obliged not to violate and fulfill the human rights norms enshrined in this convention and bear responsibility for their violation what should the european court of human rights have determined when it concerns this second case, which we have already noted and talked about, this is actually a revolutionary approach of the european court of

human rights regarding the consideration of cases e-e regarding a state that has left the system of the convention and e- it's here let me remind you that even according to the procedure, a judge must be present from a state that is recognized as a violator of the norms of the convention and constantly accompany this review, and accordingly, communication takes place between that state and the european court of human rights. such a revolutionary decision that a judge must be present who will choose to apply and he will be one of the member states of the council of europe. that is , it is actually such an effective continuous approach of the european court of human rights in considering issues and -is

the fact that he takes into account both the de facto and de jure situation when it is possible to simply bury the case in the event that the offending state refuses to participate in its consideration by declaring its withdrawal from the convention system. therefore, we we have an ongoing review of this case. this is a very important question . when will the decision be made? yes, it is really important. when will this decision be made? mr. oleksandr. almost unanimously, the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe voted to create a tribunal for the leadership of the russian federation. belarus and what does this decision indicate when we talk about the fact that the parliamentary delegation

of the european union actually voted for a resolution that demands the prosecution of the russian federation for the crime of aggression ? from the final steps, which at the political level approves the decision of one of the most powerful european institutions, if not the most powerful of the european union, to create this international prosecution tool that will have a mandate to bring higher military and political leadership of the aggressor state and its assistants, respectively, the russian federation and white russia, and this is the first such political body to be recognized

by the political body as criminals who must be brought to justice. thank you oleksandr oleksandr pavlichenko executive the director of the ukrainian helsinki union for human rights joined our broadcast well , our broadcast continues ivan stupak, a military expert of the ukrainian institute of the future , a consultant to the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine issues of national security and defense are now with us , mr. ivan, welcome to the studio. do you think that in the near future we can see echelons of tanks going to our western border? well, maybe it wasn't in echelons, but we can see a certain number of the latest statements of president zelensky. he said that 10 - 15-20 tanks will not change the situation on the battlefield, because in the russian federation there are thousands of tanks

, but they will raise the morale of our guys. ten tanks that are in service in the russian federation, we know that they have outdated weapons, well, look, i'm sure when our political leadership called the numbers yes , there were 300 tanks that used the traditional breed of millet, it's incredible that they will give the necessary uh , we take into account that there is a certain number of our tanks that are internally an internal letter at the expense of russian tanks of course we need the more the better, but i am sure that the main story here is the first batch, but the first batch will pass and some moral safeguards will be removed. look, patriot, come on. last year, we couldn't dream much about the patriots, anriev. and now, if i'm not mistaken, there are already five of these deliveries , we

are talking about five of these divisions of the patriots. but at the same time, let's talk about the leopards, yes, because the leclercs are also discussed, the abrams is discussed , but the leopards, why are they chosen, because there are a certain number of them? well, there are about 2.5 in total , but about two specific ones the model is in question as far as i remember, these are two and four and those that can potentially be provided to ukraine , respectively, there are approximately 1,000 of them now in europe , and we understand that their service is also possible in poland, which already in principle this country has become such a logistics hub and that is enough about so british tanks, if serviced in britain, then it is at least in terms of logistics, well, twice, three times longer and further 100%,

i completely agree with you, you have noted everything correctly here, it is about the convenience of er, approximately on the european continent with 47 percent of all the leopards, that is, 47-49%. there was such an infragraphic and it really affects the convenience of repairing them there, it can be compared further, let's say they bought a car in kyiv , and to repair it for service, then it has to be taken somewhere back to kharkiv, sumy, well, imagine and this is what they used, ok, there are a lot of leopards in poland in the baltic countries have a repair base , many spare parts, lubricants , equipment, trucks there, and in the case of a large number of tanks , if they are transferred to you and then they will go to repair, they can be quickly repaired there, i don’t know, there are already some other polish cities, and spare parts will come from all over europe , from spain, from estonia, from poland, from germany, and

a large number and very quickly about ppu systems, when we talked about what if you don’t stand, for example in poland, yes, to cover the territory of ukraine , how many disputes were there? how come nato missiles will shoot down russian missiles over ukraine, this is a direct collision between nato and russia. of course, it will be difficult there, not quickly, but the process will not go like this, it is very difficult where to place them so that russian missiles cannot hit them, training pilots, this is conceptual , this is how i don’t know, this is from some mercedes-benz car from the 70s, there is a mercedes-benz 23- th year of production is conceptually the same, but in fact these are completely different things, yes, and taking into account the runway canvas, it will also need to be put in order, and the russians have shelled all parts of a lot of things there, including

the air bases of ukraine, ivan thank you ivan stupak, a military expert of the ukrainian institute of the future, a consultant to the verkhovna rada committee on national security and defense, was with us in black poltava , meanwhile , christmas trees. and overheating of the plant holes, but there is another option. the christmas tree can be taken to the local ecopark for the animals, what is done with them there knows in more detail . lamp sheep are fed with christmas trees, they are carefully inspected so as not to harm the animals, we look at these christmas trees so that there are no raindrops on them, garlands, other things like to eat christmas trees, mainly hoofed goats

, llamas, zebras, camels, sheep, but for some animals and birds, conifer branches are used to make hiding places for predators, primates and the birds, they all rejoice at new objects and new smells. and they also like to sharpen their claws on the bark , rub against the skin, but there is another way, where we use christmas tree branches or dried needles, we grind them with the help of i will leave and use forages to heat our winter rooms where exotic animals and birds are located in such a difficult energy time, it helps us a lot with fuel for boilers to heat animals for ungulates and rodents , coniferous branches are rich in vitamins and microelements, so after the new year on holidays, they must be added to the diet, but in addition to this , the winter food menu for the residents of the water park has also been changed, as well as panthers, lions , this is everyone who is on the street, this is more than

30-50%, the ration has increased meat is a plus, we replace chicken with beef, this is what they eat, what they are used to . animals are always welcome there, e.e., turtles, llamas, a movie project, monkeys, i watch a little bit , sometimes i give food for the first time. today, we are here because we have such a person in kharkov, and they came here to see how it is set up here what the child likes is especially tactile, the feeling of what he likes in the fresh air is good, the impressions are good, every christmas tree brought is a price, a gift for animals or birds, they say in the ecopark, so who wants