[000:00:00;00] in march, from february to march, we will receive the main positions on the abrams tanks, maybe a little later , most likely they will be connected with the arrival of the abransov in poland, since there is no developed service system for poles in europe, it is now being built for purchase 116- i will hand over 116 recruits, about 30 battalion recruits , including to us, but again, first build a service system, then they will ask for abrams, then we will receive them. i think they will come to us in the spring. we will get there, we will choose ourselves, but the main thing for us is, of course, leopards and leopards, we will get february march aviation aviation important very important aviation i think in 16 we will still receive information about what our races are france can give us but the best option for us of course it is in

the 16th and the very spread of the currency went through a lot of battles, a multifunctional platform that can support the army and in the offensive and can work in the mode of anti-missile anti-aircraft defense correction of the target, that is, a very good machine already the head of the president's corps, yarmak, confirmed an hour or so less than an hour ago that ta deus, er, muravetsky, er, already said that 14 polish leopards, including 60 polish tanks, would be sent in the near future. i understand that this is a very deep modernization of the t-72 e p roman now, if you listen to russian propagandists, i do not recommend that anyone do this but i sometimes have to do it at work , so their boss just advised what they said well, leopards are abramsy challengers and so these self-tanks are different, and our t-90 is 100 times faster, so

it’s not a big deal. they also burn like any others . and we have experience, er, real experience of the collision of western main battle tanks and soviet battle tanks during the two wars operations, in particular, the large-scale ground operation in iraq, based on what we can say, how did they show themselves, uh, the fact is that a tank by itself on the battlefield is a clearly vulnerable machine, uh, because we have a lot of russian tanks to to become the same you 90 destroyed their great honor in the beginning last year, when they entered a-a without battle formations in columns, then they were not simply burned, and by the way, with rather simple anti-tank er-er rocket shells, that’s still turkish, still soviet, because

they burn like candles, a-and here are the tanks that will now be provided to us heavy european and american tanks. they go in certain pairs, and sometimes even the triad , and that is, it is necessarily covered by an infantry fighting vehicle of the type that is a tank killer in itself, that is, a combat vehicle in a pair with a heavy tank works a lot efficacious than each of the machines separately , plus the air is not covered by helicopters like the patch or our 24th, here is such a troop that no one will enter one tank at a time, there will be no battle but already here is such a triad eh it is even impossible to approach it not even what is permissible will destroy it when there are works of tanks of those zhiliopards one and a half times further they can work eh than tanks of russian production plus it is very

important that these tanks can work at night in tuman without visibility by thermal heaters, that is, it is very bad a good aiming system is almost a full-automatic machine, because it is possible to say that the tank is not occupied by the tankers, but the operators who control the machine . there is even no point in comparing russian tanks. the whole system of this team , which will definitely be transferred to us. thank you mr. roman for the conversation. roman svitan, a military expert, a colonel of the reserve of the armed forces of ukraine and a military pilot, the institute was with us , but now lyudmila filipovych will be with us the philosophy of religion knew this doctor of philosophical sciences with whom we were prevented from talking yesterday by russian rockets mrs. lyudmylo, we are glad to see you again good morning to you good morning ludmila, we started

talking yesterday, but unfortunately we did not finish talking about the fact that , for the first time, the leaders of the ukrainian churches that is, the pope of rome met with them for the first time, as far as this meeting is historical and how important it is. well, yesterday i told you everything about how historic it is, only you didn't hear it, so i'm happy to repeat the main points that i made yesterday formulated to read the reviews of her fellow experts at night, and they all agree that this is indeed a historic visit , it was prepared for a long time, but you know, the circumstances were such that it was not possible to gather all the members of the all-ukrainian council of churches and religious organizations in order for them to go on a visit to the pope finally all gathered, even from america , the head of the jewish community came, who

at first did not see the delegation in the glass, and then such people arrived. that continues at the global level, it does not stop in connection with various events , and except for the pope, who very often gathers around him representatives of various religions , in the summer of this year in chicago there will be another congress of such a parliament of religions where these representatives will come. well, almost everyone religions that currently exist in the world and they are discussing very important issues, just as our representatives discussed with the pope, this visit is also important not only for religious life for the religious environment as well as for interstate relations. do not forget that the pope is the head of the vatican state, and when such a distinguished delegation

consisting of citizens of our country comes there, it means that good relations are being established between the state of ukraine and the vatican, problems are discussed there not only of the religious variety, and let's say cultural, economic , political, even social, we know how the vatican state is currently helping ukraine to overcome the consequences of aggression that we have from the russians. there are 15 members of the all-ukrainian, in general, 16 members of the all-ukrainian council of churches of religious organizations, a week, in fact, boxing is nearby, which means that it also strengthens internal ukrainian interreligious relations , today it is very important, and despite the fact that, as you know, we have one church so

special, but its representatives there was such a person in the composition of this delegation. i am referring to proteire mykola danylevich , who onufry himself was not there, why? interreligious dialogue inside ukraine, well, i consider it too low for me, you know, he is probably a bird of a higher flight, but he will not soon have such an opportunity to see paporovsky well, we must remember how the orthodox , especially of the moscow spillway, treat catholics. they consider them unequal to themselves, they are schismatics rtika, i don’t know if these books are now in their kiev-pechersk lavra, but there is a book on the table about the fact that catholics are schismatics, about the fact that the vatican

is the enemy of the ukrainian people, and many others such revelations that i don't know where they get them from, well, the point is to say for sure that the catholics also call the schematic orthodox church, they do not have such a term as the orthodox church, it is not translated from latin to english, as far as i remember , although the orthodox or even khasmatists a a but but ms. lyudmila well, i wanted to say that now that the orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate has a rather weak position in ukraine, most people advocate iron and closure or support this idea, there are some the laws that are there as well. well, they have certain certain problems for them. well, for example, if they were called the russian orthodox church in ukraine, wouldn't that be a chance for metropolitan onufriy to show that he is not a person who dances

to russian music there? dudu that he is from ukraine, that he is together with other ukrainian denominations , that he is a part of some western and about the westerner , hmm, i don’t know if it is in ukraine, and that he is independent after all, that he is not governed by moscow, that gundyaev, why did he lose such a chance well, because for him this motive is not the main and, er, dominant, er, you said here that i work, i know inside, i smiled like that because there is no western orientation around there. he always positioned himself as a representative of not just eastern christianity , as it is do, let's say, pts or greek catholics, but just such a pure moscow orthodoxy. and the fact that they are now trying to get out from under the e-e mapor, as they say in russian orthodox church, i perceive it exclusively as a political step that provides

an opportunity to endanger their existence in to ukraine, which is categorically against russia and everything russian that is connected with this state, well, as a church in general , there is no such tradition in the orthodox church that the church should be independent from anyone, see how the members of the ukrainian orthodox church of the kyiv patriarchate suffered and experienced it no matter what live calmly, even as autocephalists, this idea that you are with no one, that is , orthodoxy knows that it is necessary to be a mother church that does not give you the right to be autocephalous, self-governing. well, we understand that the glorious ukrainian right never receives such a right from the russians, because it is historically and canonically mental. this church is very

confused with russia. russia in its charter will never delete special section number 10. where it is written that the ukrainian orthodox church is , and because then they lose a lot of things that actually are founding the orthodox church , in particular, this applies to such a concept as the apostleship, i.e. any orthodox church, it was founded by an apostle. well , the apostle andriy came to moscow. where did he actually go? from shore to shore from here he pointed out that the glory of christian teaching will shine. well, when they appropriate our history , they also become as if they were apostolic. i'm sorry , how can they do without this roosters of summer

history until 1448 from 988 baptisms kyivan in the beginning and i no longer remember the first baptisms of askold and the second baptisms actually of princess olga. last year, they removed references to russia from the pro-russian church, but that doesn’t mean anything, but did the russian church let you go or did it give you rules to be independent and independent, as they wrote in their letter to oleksiy in 1990 ? what kind of status is independent and independent , he is unknown in the orthodox tradition

, i know two positions, two statuses , who is gnomia and autocephaly. the absence of their metropolitan at the meeting with the pope is this some kind of signal or they absolutely do not react to such a thing and maybe what their priests from samvon are saying. vlogova means our enemies in this secularized europe, they represent the vatican, as you know, as the center of secularized europe, it is the only one who has preserved the truth and loyalty in that primitive christianity , he is the only one who

carries the purity of the christian faith. that is, you can explain there why onufry was not there, but i tell you once again, i cannot recall cases when onufry was part of the all-ukrainian council, he is there formally, but when he was actually present as a part of the meeting of some all-ukrainian council of churches and religious organizations well, of course , on occasion. he could not to use the head of the orthodox church of ukraine . it is very impressive. that is, you can really compare orthodoxy and catholicism because they were there in the museum and at the reception and saw that this is all the glory

of this church. well, you know, in fact , there was no such official or unofficial recognition of the newly established church from the catholic church. by the way, the nuncio did not say this to the vatican , it was a kulbaka since when we met with him in ukraine, they say that i am present at some general events, but i do not have direct relations with this church, the orthodox church of ukraine, because there is no blessing from the pope. believe that this trip and this meeting are actually such a blessing and now the relations between catholics and between orthodox at the international level will develop much more powerfully. well, i think rabbits - it was also a great opportunity to show uh, who they signed the union with in 15908 that

what kind of church is it, how much is it really christian well, what about the greek catholics who showed their sophia, which is in rome, they told about the university that was founded there by the patriarch joseph the blind, well , in one word, you know, they expanded it for sure horizons and the perception of other christians for the metropolitan is a very, very epiphany. once again, i want to emphasize an important and far-sighted step that has been planned for a long time and i support it because it was the object of interreligious dialogue and interreligious communication because i believe that religious figures can really contribute their enormous contribution as we say that the establishment of normal human civilized relations between people based on common values, thank you ms. lyudmila ludmila filippovich philosopher

, religious studies doctor of philosophical sciences was and we talked about the meeting of the leaders of the ukrainian churches with the pope , meanwhile, news from the russian orthodox church. she proposed to introduce mandatory consent of the spouse to abortion. that's the kind of news you call russia, er, i call them differently it's called a word in different ways, it's interesting , that is, you have to ask your husband and then he will say that good means good okay, so far this is a proposal , but we understand that in russia, sometimes proposals to the implementation of crazy ideas are half a step today, by the way, all my

millet pa- memory of the victims of the holocaust. videos and from this was made public today by ursovo von der lai. by the way, the feeling is reported. one of the most popular politicians, what happened to the surprise of foreign people in ukraine, now everyone knows who it is. i will tell everyone right away. this is the president of the european commission, or even the european union, let's say let's watch this touching video of how the top officials of the european union celebrate the memorial day of the victims of the holodomor and the holocaust. oh god

, it will pass . it will be interesting if they will light such memorial candles in russia. what theme of the second world war does he often speculate on? let's take a look today and now we are in touch with yosyp zisil , a public figure and a dissident of jewish origin, an activist of the ukrainian jewish movement , executive co-president of jsc ukraine , executive vice-president of the congress of national communities of ukraine, mr. yosyfa welcome to our airwaves. actually, i would like to ask you this: the soviet union defeated the nazis, but what exactly did the soviet union do because it wanted to protect the jews, who were simply exterminated and persecuted, did the jews feel uncomfortable in the soviet union?

threatened in the soviet union, of course, the soviet union was a totalitarian state that stood up to global violence, so he did not care about any ethnic groups, and of course his fight against nazism was a fight between two bandits for power over territories and peoples, and for example that in the headquarters of the partisan movement in the archive of the partisan movement of the second world war, which is in moscow, there is not a single mention of all the reports, and there are hundreds of thousands of them reported by partisan units that were in the territory occupied by the nazis, there is not a single mention of the extermination of jews about goethe about concentration camps is not at all interesting to them, so the question is rhetorical. the tsarist union was not going to release

a jew at all, so it turned out that he, fighting with germany, released a whole series of concentration camps in eastern europe and released those who at that time remained alive there, sir, you know, literally before i came to this video, where in the village of fundalyan, other figures of the european union light candles, i slandered myself, i said about the holodomor instead of the holocaust, there are probably many reasons for this. genocide because a lot of jews were exterminated on the territory of present -day ukraine during the second world war probably no no well there are some parallels that can be drawn between what between why did this happen and the same the memory of the holodomor was forbidden, just as the memory of the holocaust was not

the leading one in the narrative when talking about the second world war, well, you can conduct parallel ones, you just have to do it very carefully, because i even use the term corporate studies, comparative studies, but uh, historians know that comparison is a rather incorrect method of research, the events are very different, although at first glance superficially they may be similar, the ban on the memory of the holocaust even earlier about the holodomor really existed in the soviet union, but they hid the holodomor in the fact that it was their crime, that they killed millions of peasants by starvation, mainly in ukraine, and they banned the memory of the holocaust because they did not want to single out one

group that, in their opinion, suffered more than others they believed that all these soviet people suffered equally and therefore were against highlighting the ethnic factor in this comparison, now it seems that something has changed because it is the ethnic factor that appears in the justifications for this war which ukraine is leading today against russia, and i will try to ask this question as parallel as possible. since today the ukrainians found themselves in a situation where a neighboring country wants to destroy them like a rocket launcher as a nation , and this is not a simple question, because look at the history of the belligerents and the russian side that is fighting

in there are ethnic ukrainians , especially the collaborators from luhansk and donetsk , who in the 14th year were the first to support the russian aggression there are many ethnic russians in the ukrainian troops in the ukrainian army in the teroboron among the volunteers, that is why this conflict is considered military, this war is aggressively russia against ukraine, uh , purely ethnic. exterminated jews or roma during the second world war . it is rather an attempt to exterminate all people who perceive themselves as ukrainians, who insist on their ukrainian identity, who identify themselves with

ukraine as it is today and as such what will it be like tomorrow and the day after tomorrow? that is, it is the destruction of those whom we call the civil or political ukrainian nation. only conscious ukrainians are destroyed without even knowing it . a person wants to be a ukrainian, she declared it and demonstrates it. by an aggressive russia and will not be destroyed , so you can see that there is a comparison, and there is an external similarity, but the mechanisms are much more complicated, and this, by the way, sheds light on what modern neo-nazism is to a certain extent, at least in russian reincarnation, because it is clear that now no one will measure in the skulls, let's say there, i don't know about ukrainians to determine who to leave alive, who is not, in the same way

, they were absolutely amazed by the conversation of a beautiful woman with some russian er-er, obviously a prominent figure of this their er- war, who thinks that ukrainians and russians are absolutely one and the same slavic nation, despite the fact that , well, this man who tells this to the camera has typical asian features, and you understand that it is about something else identity is rather cultural in this sense. for how many ukrainians is it important to form this identity to the end or is it already fully formed? if so, how would it be possible to mark it as the fact that there was no racial factor in this war and even larvae was the main factor under during the second world war, the germans from the nazis considered themselves a super

nation, all others were below them and based on this they built their russian ideology, and russia also considers all others, especially those who were previously in the soviet union republics, these ethnic groups are considered inferior, but she does it as if she were an older brother. this is a difference between younger brothers . well, it is purely declarative, because what is the difference, why people are killed because of one division or another , but i would say that ukrainians. this division is not ethnic with russians. the distribution is rather civilizational, that is what distinguishes this war from the previous one. and that’s right, the war also already has a global format. because ukraine is supported by 50

democratic countries, russia is supported by a dozen authoritarian totalitarian countries and such a division between the totalitarian-authoritarian world and the democratic world is the first time in the history of a world conflict and it is already a civilizational conflict and it lies at the basis of this conflict and unfortunately, it is precisely this civilization of civilizations, the civilizational factor that lies at the basis of this conflict , it tells us that the war will not end so quickly these civilizations are established, they are more or less stable in our country due to the authoritarian totalitarian rule of others due to democracy, and therefore it can be quite a long time. that is, we will have in the northeast and we already have an existential enemy

with whom we will deal with for a long time , because thanks to the support of the world, sooner or later we will probably deal with nazism . you wonder for less than a minute whether the world will still be able to condemn this regime as such, which was devastating, historical experience shows that in order to truly condemn through the international court of justice , an international tribunal, it is necessary to defeat this crush the country, what do i wish for russia that it was crushed, but we see how much it is with today's position of the west and other countries. it is very difficult if i have we simply if we return to the borders of 1991, this is a heavenly opportunity to actually condemn the leaders of russia, those who gave orders those