tv [untitled] January 27, 2023 12:30pm-1:01pm EET
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[000:00:00;00] it is determined that the death there, even on the territory of zaporozhye, there is a significant number of enemies, it will still be presented exactly as the protection of the national interests of the russian federation, this is how it will be presented without fail, because they have to sacralize this territory, and sacralization occurs primarily through victims blood, and here it should be mentioned that since 2014, already in the annexed crimea and in the temporarily occupied territories of the luhansk and donetsk regions, russia has deployed a powerful propaganda company in this territory is widespread - this is the youth army movement that i mentioned, it is also widespread in a-a occupied territory. this year, i have already seen mentions of the formation of youth army units from the youth who remained in mariupol, in berdyansk, in the territory of the kherson region
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, they will be all this to try to spread an array of aggressive propaganda to the local population and try to draw it into the resistance to the ukrainian offensive, which i hope will happen soon. you once claimed that the russian military leadership itself in during the war, they took advantage of the most primitive instincts of the russians whom they set free, that is, in the format of this war, you can actually loot , rape, kill prisoners, and all this is normal , so explain to me how normal this normality is in general. well, such a systemic thing for e of the russian army or those standards that are being implemented to us today . well, these armed forces of the occupiers. if we talk about the historical aspect, we can mention at least the events when
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the russian imperial troops acted, for example on the territory of poland - this is suvorov's march on warsaw in 794 years, this is the caucasian wars - these are the wars on the territory of central and central asia, this is how the red guards and the red army operated on the territory of ukraine in 17-21 years, this is how the special units of the nkvd operated and the red army suppressing insurgent movements on the territory of ukraine and on the territory of the baltic countries after the second world war. this is exactly how the soviet troops acted in the territory of nazi germany and hungary during 44-45 years. this is how the soviet troops acted in afghanistan, that is, to conduct a spectrum of war crimes, rape, mass rape, destruction of cultural
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values, looting of the population, looting of property , all this is a crime . that's exactly how they always fought, and again, it's even possible to remember the same words of vysotsky . trophies. that is, it is er these trophies are the right to plunder. it has always existed in russian society in the russian e-e military. and now we simply see it live. if someone did not believe that the russian army or the soviet army fought like that in history, now we have seen it all
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live on our territory and in fact, all the myths that were built around the soviet and russian armies about their virtues, their nobility during the war, and there is the word officers, or are they closer to them ? during these months of russian aggression against ukraine , they were destroyed, not only did she see it ukrainian society i hope that all the civilized light saw it, let's say yes, a collective event. yes, it really happens like that, but i wanted to ask you about what i am such a component of, which he briefly mentioned at the beginning of our conversation, and about the role of the wagnerites, how do they generally fit into this the concept of a holy war or actually now we see that there is this group of e and k- the kadyrivians and maidservants will now be pushed to the fore only the military will enter, this means that actually
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the e-e mission itself can be considered to be complete, or am i wrong, from wagner as a separate structure, eh, i would remember from the second world war, a well-known structure, these are parts of the dirlewanger, which were used , eh, and the wehrmacht there, and the ss later, exclusively ss, let ’s say so for completely dirty work , in order to eh or put a huge number of executions on them or prevent the countries that or the states that resisted uh, uh, well, to deploy it strongly, just again there is the same story with the use of criminals who were widely used during hostilities, that's why wagner he and forms its own subculture er subculture er on their hand signs a subculture of awards in which there is a lot, let's say, from
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nazi germany or, let's say, from the romance of the assault units of the first and second world wars, which absolutely does not fit into this paradigm, but the soviet holy war i think they will be divided to a certain extent, and it is possible that they can bring this soviet ideology to you, dowagner, and the scheme of fine bats that were used in parallel with the regular units of the red army just to carry out tasks that can bring huge losses. let's say it's so difficult, it's not a pity. in practice, we are talking about the fact that in parallel with this concept of holy war, the effectiveness of the repressive apparatus in russia will increase, because in fact it must compensate for any manifestations of misunderstanding of this concept. this means that it is necessary to increase the number of convicted prisoners there
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, to use the suppression of the mass media, which is happening at its own stage, and this should be just another component of this holy war, it is possible to predict it, in fact, we can, again, recalling the great patriotic war in the russian connotation, it is always with us, it is still falling out, we can also remember smersh and the strengthening of the activities of the nkvd during the second world war and the fight against the internal enemy. that is, the russians still expect it. i think that it will gradually increase, especially with the increase in losses, because it is possible that the russians are not capable of opening any resistance to the internal policies of their own state, but on father, let's say yes to the conversation, the conversation in the kitchen and the internal eh eh disagreement let's say so in
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the russian language araptaniya it will eh gradually increase, but we see an example when there 700,000 potential mobilized russians left for the first time in the last month from the russian federation and there were no facts of any er-e effective or any manifestations there of more than a year of rumbling or more of any er-e acts of resistance in russia. it is the highest the degree of active resistance to what i am capable of now, but we can recall the fall of 2022, when even in social networks there was a fairly significant number of videos about uh, small or quite significant riots within the russian army even at the beginning of the 23rd year it was already mentioned about one
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of the most active as participants in which the punishment was imposed, he was sent there to the disciplinary units for her departure and even the wagners all offered him to atone for his guilt in their love right here i think several models will be used, and one of them will be precisely the fear of the future. they left some of their own primitive freedom of thought in that territory of russia, that is, the most active component that was capable of resistance was left by those who remained. what they will be capable of
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will be riots, but it is worth mentioning here the other, in parallel, that it was precisely the soldiers’ riots that destroyed the russian imperial army at the end of the 16th and the beginning of the 17th century, which actually became the trend before the fall of the russian empire. serhiy, the extreme question about that. and to you as a prehistorian who knows all wars and the previous ones, how did they end, how can and how should our war against the russian federation end? well, i think that here it can and should, there should be one option, it will be a military defeat of russia on the battlefield, and it has must be completed the military and political defeat of russia, well, let's say in a more global dimension
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of international relations , it should be possible to form a new system of collective security, and it must necessarily take place a series of measures. well, let's call them tribunals over military and military - political criminals whose activities made it possible to start this war and all the crimes that took place are due to vasyl. thank you for your professional explanations for your time. organization, the center of military history, but the concept of a holy war is actually a kind of situational basis for the enemy to ideologically compensate for defeats and failures in the war, which moscow initially believed that it would be guaranteed to win, but this did not happen. and in fact, at the same time , russia's desire for destruction remains unchanged ukraine's ukrainian statehood and
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the genocide of the ukrainian people as such is not the embodiment of the concept of the russian measure that we know about, but it is something a little bigger and broader, but now we have oleksandr on the phone kyrychuk is the deputy director of the lviv museum of religious studies. oleksandra, i congratulate you. good afternoon. you have been studying for a long time how russia behaves. evidence that the russian leadership is now implementing such a new concept or a new plan which, in a simplified way , can be said to be a plan for the reproduction of a new horde, so what exactly is the problem
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is that for russia, in order to carry out expansion , it was necessary to consolidate the entire population of the russian federation, and here the question arose that it is necessary to organize not only the russian ethnic element, purely russians, but also the numerous peoples who live beyond the urals. a huge number of imurs and chuvash and chechens and tuvans, and the question arose of how to create a new theology that would actually involve many of these peoples in this holy war. we can say that in general it looks er marginal even today in the ukrainian information space, little is known about it, we don’t talk about it much, but in fact, this specter of eurasianism is very active in the spaces of russian work, and there are several different projects, and when we look at
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how terrible what happened in bucha what happened in mariupol how they destroyed the city we cannot understand we still live in the paradigm of the russian world we are brothers and here they are destroying and what is most interesting is what the russians are destroying on the territory of ukraine those what kind of russian-speaking population that only yesterday sympathized with russia as a brother to the russians as some kind of bearer of the ideology of the russian world, and here the cities are literally bombarded and destroyed, and when we see the letter z - this is the smell of we are going to the west, this is the ideology of the new scythians and the new horde and eurasianism, well, about this can be said a lot, because in russia there are several projects that should unite all different peoples. that is , we are talking about the fact that now this concept of the russian world has already worked its way out, and
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this concept is being replaced by this eurasianism, i.e., the concept of the new horde, which foresees there, with unchanged instincts, to move to the west and destroy everything, destroy everything, and yet capture the territory , focusing on the fact that we simply have more russian peace, this concept was active in the 14th year, when there was a russian ideology in the spring, it was not successful, and the search for something new went . and actually, when you look at what is written in various press bloggers who are the bearers of these different concepts, you can be horrified and it actually looks unbelievable, for example to one gas it is said eh biome of grandmasters to the head we smack chess pieces off the board and win we warm up the game eh in others - it is announced that mobilization is not in the literal sense, we were talking about mobilization here, but mobilization actually in the spiritual
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dimension and well, i am like a person who left actually explores such a component of the cultural segment , er, ideological, i would like to familiarize the audience more with this philosophy of theirs, which explains a lot to us why these cities are destroyed, why this, what does this letter z mean and such other things, why why are cities destroyed in fact, why in fact these actions were taught in mariupoli, you are talking about the fact that this is actually a reflection and a component of this new concept of the horde, which is so far well, i do not know in which documents it is written, but it is embodied precisely in the behavior of the russian army , as he mentioned again of this very idea. allow me not to be servile. i will say this in order, that is, the first bearer of this brazilian concept was the second in 2003, he created the international union of the eurasian and immediately already
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literally in the first two years, 29 phials were opened in the west, in particular in the countries of latin america and where people from the russian federation live, well, you can talk about dugin separately. in our country, it is widely believed that he is from the entire ideology of the russian world, but actually the ideologues later on, the concept arose , it became deeper, the eurasian union of youth, which was led by the second daughter of nazarius ii, who was actually killed, and this is a separate issue to talk about, because to go to russia , they say that this is sambur, he also made the ultimate sacrifice in order to mobilize this eurasian e then came a project that represented in general-forium this scythians have passed there are scythians who are ready for mobilization, so i will allow myself to read a quote by zarifulin when he now in the 22nd year declared that a war had begun that in the discs of mobilization by scythians without cameraization model for the special service of the sacred property
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spife are fighting in rank and file with his enemies , being in the vanguard of the state army , well, humilov was also taken into service , well, the method and eyes. that's all the european space - this is the russian trans-ural beyond the urals, for the european part, all are united by this ideology. perhaps it has not yet acquired such a wide spread, but in order to argue that this is a rather dangerous ideology, i would like to remind you that the ideology of the russian peace was formed in 2001, and in the 14th year it manifested itself as the russian spring, so the ideology of the eurasian is gradually disappearing, and well another reason why the russian authorities have now made an insertion on the eurasian is also connected with the fact that the russian opposition is mainly
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liberal, this is the russian letter of the summer business . in our mass media, in the domestic ones, we talk about we listen to those russian parades, but as i once said, they were sent to them , and they do not know the people and the judges. they speak in liberal words that are not read widely in russia. and the model of eurasianism is becoming more and more relevant, that is, numerous peoples live beyond the urals with a rather low social status, and it is necessary that they do not make a project of social rebellion, so tell them to go
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and loot, and that is why a project arises that actually created by a colonel of the russian game - this is pyotr vasko, alias andrey devyatov, you can see him on facebook , he actively promotes it, and he has a concept of a new horde, actually based on the concept of a new horde, and you can explain all the crimes and these horrors that are happening um, by the russian federation, because andriy devyatov explained that you know, it sounds proud, the new horde is the third card , the first horde is the golden horde, the second horde is the soviet union, its spaces overlapped with the golden horde, and the third horde - it our future is that we unite all peoples and move forward, and here it is very revealing that in 11 year they made the film golden horde, i watched it in detail while studying this problem and drew attention to the following phrase
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, there is a plot when uh to the head of the golden horde the hordes of the vatican delegation come and ask what will happen if they are going to destroy their european cities, and they are answered, why should i give them a city? we need style . ideology we must create a new civilization, that's why they are destroying everything in the south of ukraine, we see that where the city was liberated, the desert remains . and these talks about faith in shaman, these shamanic rites that he arranged there under putin . they have something to do with this concept of the horde strategy. yes, in russia, in moments of crisis, there have always been various encased balls, and first of all
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, in the international youth union, there are certain leaders who walked around the club, who were interested in balls in such various sciences, in particular, well, there are certain such testimonies some people that they are even connected with satanism, er, with the summoning of spirits, and when we hear the nightingale of a russian political scientist, a scientist , who likes to say that putin summons spirits there, that he conducts various enveloping er, such events, then it can be at first look, well, you know how much for you putin actually has quite a lot of people around putin who are in favor of it and it is difficult to say whether the leadership really believes in this occultism so sacredly , but we remember that it has always been quite popular. is it just a game, a game in order to
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attract more and more people, but one way or another it is practiced in the russian federation. well, since the concerts of eurasia are connected with various rites of those eastern eurasian peoples, of course it is actively held there, for example , on the eve of february 23, at the end of january, it was held the rite of killing camels and making sacrifices in order to carry out a victorious war, well , many say that the main shaman, who once always helped putin when he was lucky , died and now putin is not always successful he can't find suitable shamans, but this cult practice. well, i'm rather skeptical, so i'm inclined to think personally that it's possible . it's just another way to attract these peoples who practice shamanism
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. you see, it's our government, it's the same. it's also preparing to explore together with you. in your opinion, what else should we oppose to this concept of the horde, are there any such painful points that we are there, or europe should hit to destroy this horde dream or horde mission, this is a very difficult problem. that well, another reason for the ideology of eurasianism was to oppose china, because those peoples who are close to kazakhstan and inhabit the russian federation, they sympathize, we congratulate you, we know that for a long time , 20 years ago, the expansion of the far east by chinese business is also here for national security in principle, russia faced the threat that they would be absorbed by chinese business and chinese ideology, so there was also this
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reason, and there are many different concepts, because this is a problem. in the year 22, we saw that the pope went there. well, i don't know. there were a lot of people from kets . i don't have recipes. it seems to me that, first of all, in europe, it is necessary to explain to the europeans that, well, putin is declaring a minimum of civilization, because all this is the ideology of eurasia, and it is directed against the fed-up west, and probably the west, which
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has been formed by stages and cycles for so many years, is this with the southern influx of terrorists, he does not realize that in fact there is a very big threat from the east literally from the northeast, and well, this question is raised. it encourages us to discuss it more and more . perhaps the blogger is more interested in the problem because in fact it is very threatening and when we see a prisoner who for example, on the sites where my interviews are taken, zolkina, well, they look so puffy. we can laugh at them, and i understand that many of the prisoners are actually blasphemers, and there are a lot of them, uh, they don't tell the truth, they don't they say that such an ideology is being formed, we are strong, we are a horde, it sounds proud, oh god, it is not shameful, and it is actually said that the horde is a new model of governance in contrast to the west. i do not know what can be opposed, because
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it is unlikely that these liberal ideas of the modern elite and europeans they will be able to be accepted because , for example, they say in theirs, i think that this is a new model of state administration, where there are such points, the justice of the higher law. europe always says the basic law, and there it says no justice, well, the russian concept of justice and it and different second social above the personal and generally proclaims the cult of the person protection of the person continued the person further the spirit spirit above the material the third point and service above were actions and power above grace that is, we refuse property is not the main thing that is sacred in western civilizations private property and here, that is, actually now , this concept allows the russian government to cement the very format of power that exists where putin plays a leading role, and
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then all the talk about what these losses are front can somehow cause such revolutionary tendencies in the regions of the russian federation, in fact, this is a delusional hope that this will not happen, as we understand it, that is , in fact, the losses do not affect the stability of this structure in any way. there are buryats and carrots and that they encourage some autonomous formations there. but it is necessary to understand that these people do not live compactly and even this ideology of the russian world is a horde new scythians, it is aimed at preventing even the first stage of national formation of national self-awareness, this is the collection of national heritage, it is wasted here, for example, museums have a very interesting exhibition of buryat hanks, which were once brought back in 1962 by such a
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lviv collector grechko this is part of something, we have museums. and when we ask people there if they are there, we call all the time earlier, and with those who are representatives from this zaurai district, they have already lost it all, they don't feel like themselves. the possibility of the formation of such an autonomous e-e must be taken into account that the population is very mixed and-e of course , the task here is how to prevent the family from at least this first stage of the national consolidation of collecting the national heritage of oleksandr thank you very much for your interesting explanations for your interesting concept, and i would like to remind our viewers that oleksandra kyrychuk, the deputy director
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of the lviv museum of religious studies, was on the air of the espresso channel. logic and the enemy's ideology, and in fact one conclusion can be drawn after talking with our guests that actually only the victory on the battlefield of the russian irdyn army and the destruction of russia as the bearer of such an invading ideology is the only way to guarantee our long-term security, and then the espresso broadcast will be continued by olga eleni with the program the chronicles of the information war olya i congratulate you on the word congratulations serhii well actually i will continue and the morning because this is really the main topic of russian propaganda this week so we will see in a moment congratulations the whole information week the main topic of russian propaganda was tanks, it seemed that there were not so many tanks as conversations around them in fact. this decision on the supply of tanks is very important and is even a certain historical stage, it
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