[000:00:00;00] networks, use complex passwords for this, began a conversation about the security service of ukraine, then here one cannot help but mention the statement of the security service of another traitor, unfortunately , in its own ranks, the head of the main department of internal security of the sbu, together with the sbu , exposed an employee of one of the service's divisions to the attention of the zaporizhia region, who worked for the russian secret service after a full-scale invasion, he began to covertly collect identification data of his colleagues and secret information about the progress of the judicial investigation of cases, given how the development of events for the russian federation in the zaporizhzhia region is desirable, it is very nice to know that the security service of ukraine is conducting work there, we need to return to the energy topic, it influences the next guest on the phone, and this is andrii zakrevskyi , an expert in energy p. andrii, we congratulate you

, glory to ukraine, we are glad to see you well , we would like to ask you to sum up what is happening in our beautiful native energy system, so we understand that regular blackouts continue, they become emergencies, schedules get messed up, and so on. you can see the processes now. how is the recovery process going and in general, is it already coming? we need help from our partners , you know, we have two parallel materials going on with our energy experts. in this territory of ukraine, we see how the generators are weakening, we see that critical institutions are already almost equipped with generators and the funds are working very well, and it seems to me

that the installation of generators has already begun. no, not only there in the hospitals we can already see how schools are being equipped with generators all over the territory of ukraine, and it feels like uh, well, if this system were already uh, on stream, that is, we could see it, uh, but unfortunately, if we talk about energy system problems, we now have accumulated problems, remove these and uh, i want to draw your attention to the fact that in addition to the problems we have with enemy strikes, we gradually accumulate tariff problems in our energy industry, and this is a very big problem uh, the point is that the tariffs that were

developed earlier they were calculated on if it were one hundred percent one hundred percent load by the people present here and now people are going to poland, there abroad , they leave the apartment and turn off the traffic jams. you see that the attacks on the infrastructure continue, people leave for their repairs , someone has to pay for constantly choosing which ones are happening in our system and plus , on top of that, repairing what happens as a result of the attacks, and that's a systemic crisis, it's a bit is accumulating and currently, i do not see from the ministry of energy , even any talk about unpopular solutions

, but this problem is accumulating, and the stage is still damning, so that well, if we are talking about electricity, then we must pay due attention to the tariffs which were formed in a certain way, they took into account many factors, that is , relatively speaking, transportation, that is, the logistics of banal energy to the final consumer , it is many different factors, in particular , the modernization of the electricity system, which electricity reaches this consumer and not only, but really repairs and fixing the consequences of missile strikes, well, no one could have predicted this and, of course, it is not included in the tariffs, but somehow we need this money. - still the state should cover serhiy marchenko , the minister of finance noted a few weeks ago that private companies should take care of this issue mainly independently and not

rely on the state, eh, after a while, we will simply see a cycle of bankruptcy of these companies and when i leave, my children and i will find ourselves in a situation where our house has been shut off . it is already completely due to the bankruptcy of a friend's campaign . well, now they will look for the extreme in this system, and i’m sorry, when we see when the missiles fly, we see the strikes and we see how they take the dispatcher of our, our infrastructure, everything is clear to me, but in the breaks between, look, before the last strike, there were three whole weeks when there is a system nothing, it was supposed to work normally, right, but

it didn’t work , that is, we saw how the elevators do not turn on the elevators for weeks. there are graphs and six for some reason, and sometimes two for five for some reason, and what happened yesterday that the blow was no longer in three regions , we have fines for otaki games with the supply of electricity and this is evidence of a systemic crisis , we already have two thermal power plants arrears were cut off from the gas, so the system crisis accumulated and unfortunately, i want to note that after some time, listen to me, i still hope that you, as an expert, invited us , and i see these things with the system crisis, and it seems to me that as an expert and you, as journalists, should raise this topic, because it is logical, there are some

regions where there are no longer 70 percent of consumers, all consumers, no tariff can presuppose this, especially since in the same regions it is kharkiv, there is donetsk region it is precisely where the biggest shocks occur and there is the greatest need to increase the constant costs, if we detail the issue of exit or protection from a possible systemic crisis, in your opinion, mr. andriy, what steps should be taken as soon as possible well, our favorite word is any incomprehensible situation to create a working group and write a plan for one or another restructuring, well, this is so to speak clerical. as you can see, we took two steps in the oil and gas industry at one time, and now it essentially saves our gas system. step e-e is the distribution of the subscription fee both for gas storage in cubes and distribution

for delivery , yes , in order to maintain pressure in the system . - and the one-time network provides you with pressure near your apartment. yes, that is, then you will simply be cut off and that's it, the distribution was so painful with problems, but people are already used to the fact that you have to pay separately for distribution and for gas in cubes second the moment is a compensation network. that is, an id was created for people who actually need to be helped. yes. that is, the assistance more or less for gas has become more targeted. here are two things that i think are absolutely necessary to do now in energy, that is, in electric energy, that

is, otherwise i, well i don't see how it is possible to correct this situation . this is the first point. there are eyes for small wind plants, then solar plants could make small clusters. and now we have these capacities reserved for players, but they are not used, and you don’t need it. there is a small energy guard, i see two things p andrii well, as they say to walk like that, we mentioned the oil and gas affairs in the complex well , accordingly, we have such a structure as naftogaz

, that is, the former chairman of the board of mr. koboliv nabu sap was suspected and the trial continues, but this is a matter of conversation with me and the question is not about the premium. in general, we understand that over the years oil and gas have worked miracles in a negative sense, so we cannot prove this, so to speak, at the moment, but i would like to know the truth, in particular, it is about pumping some cubes, etc. and so on. in your opinion, there are some tools that could still find out what went wrong, how it went wrong, who is responsible for it, and so on . well, because the story about the prize is actually well, so to speak, the only thing that floats on the water, after all, they said the word premium ah, i think that if you agreed on the part of the state, you must keep your word, and eh, it will be

a mistake if eh something is being looked at in the opposite direction. well, regarding the award, i want to say that, at that time, it was necessary to think about whether such a level of the award would attract ukraine, and not when it already took place. this is the first remark. to say that the level of transparency of the oil and gas industry has increased in coordination with right from the time of the koboliv wind farm and the opening of the commercial market when the commercial market opened and when we received thousands of gas suppliers , many companies automatically sprung up that did not produce or buy abroad but for some reason had the opportunity to resell gas .

they became so available due to the fact that the market opened. yes, that is, it became clear to me where they get this gas, which actually , i would say, is not clear gas in the system, well , so opaque that it was impossible to see. well, it decreased to 5%. what the opaque part of this gas, the first is the formation of tariffs when they said that every babushka should burn five teapots a day to heat her own water, and if it didn't heat up, why did it have a pipe that didn't burst, that's right, that's you this happened to suppliers who did not know where they got it from. and why did this happen because there was a crossroad of subsidization, because gas was supplied to teapots by the grandmother at the price of uah 1,400, and at the same time it was possible to sell gas for 9,000 uah to flash consumers, i.e. now

there is no cross-subsidization, and this is an open market without cross-subsidization, not like it used to be when these tariffs were incendiary, and now we have a situation like this. of the apparatus of the gas transportation system of ukraine, and before the beginning of the war, he began to give every day the amount of e-e and the balance of incoming gas from imports from to mining campaigns from downloading a virtual game. well, that is, from all these indicators, we have the amount of gas of opaque gas amounted to 1 billion cubic meters of gas, this 1 billion cubic meters of gas is called technological consumption of gas, and that is the only place. well, you can now calculate, that is , if ukraine consumed, for example, 32 billion cubic meters of gas, then the opaque part in our country

decreased to only one billion e- cubic meters of gas, er, as my friends andryukh told me at one time , don’t worry about the technological consumption of gas. and here i am repeating this phrase with you, and they have enough for the visa . well, we have it specially for this purpose. learned members of the newly appointed supervisory board now i will try to read their names again anfin santor martin van der heiden ludo albert marino antonio william hookway ria rd mark you know something about those people without google maybe they are some very well-known experts representatives of some very well-known energy circles and so on well, maybe i just don't know about them. you me, you me the second question on er, on the bulldozer, i will frankly tell you that i was the person who

mercilessly criticized the previous supervisor of the lesson and my first criticism, the most important one, was about the unprofessionalism of both the supervisory board and the people who are on the board of naftogaz , and then the supervisory board. the first one apologizes for these mistakes, that the mistake was during the kobolev favorova e.e. to reduce drilling from 390,000 linear meters to four wells to four favorov wells there with koblev , these wells were supplied there, that is, the reduction in drilling was when you had gas to supply dollars and they said that it is very cheap, therefore it is not profitable to fight. and as he said, and how will gas be for $2,000? what will you do

with this non-state approach of the supervisory board , they say, which was not interested in a steady increase in production? and this is possible only sometimes when drilling, this was the first mistake and the second mistake, when in 20 20-21 years , gas was not purchased at all, even cheap, that is , they thought more about how they had fuel in the favorable kobolev, how to sell the gas that they bought there for $300 to $400, what they are they were so scared that they didn't buy gas when you could buy it for 100 for 60 for 120 and so, when the windmill came to the first place, what did he do with his fear and cutter and started buying gas when it was still 200 for 300 for 400 to 600 to 1,000 $. because it was already clear that gazprom was drying up europe and it was necessary to buy gas at any price, because otherwise we would not have passed the season of 21-22

, and you are watching the supervisory board, which did not approve the purchase of a single cubic meter of gas in where the season of 21-22 is now coming to her again, i don't know maybe they are appointed experts. i just don't know them, so they appointed me. i haven't had time, so to speak, to study them in the library. see, uh, we are from uh, we are from the oil and gas association of ukraine, which i headed. we recommended academician petrovsky, a person who, because of they worked at the border and they worked here and she was fully responsible for everything, well, because it was necessary in the supervisory council, academician petrovsky submitted documents, he received a ticket that the documents were accepted, and after that a month passed and we

saw one in the elected council of independent members i do not know how these independent members were elected because our academician who is well versed in drilling in our oil and gas industry has the latest scientific work on the increased efficiency of drilling wells in ukraine who is currently engaged in foreign campaigns in order to increase the efficiency of drilling these borders with him further interviews it was not conducted, it is not an independent council, it is definitely not a competition council, but it was decided that it exists and it is already good because it unblocks the work of naftogaz as such yes, that is what is the name of the company, that is, on the one hand, i can congratulate the fact that our company will work according to its charter, on the other hand, there is a big risk that this is, again, a cargo cult and soapy we will see from eh, nothing but big salaries, nothing from

this supervision. thank you very much, expert . well, here we go . internal negotiations are already underway between western allies of ukraine regarding the supply of jet fighters to kyiv, despite fears about the escalation of the discussion of the issue , and ukraine itself is lobbying with the support of countries the baltics write about this policy and with reference to western military officials and diplomats, contact us valery ryabykh, director of development of the information consulting company defect express p valery, we congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes welcome to the studio congratulations dear tv viewers, the topic of tanks has not cooled yet yes has not yet become but i am not even sure that it has warmed up enough in the context of the number there and eventually their appearance on the territory of our country, but we have the ambition to talk now about aviation about planes

for ukraine, it is an ambitious plan to get f16 and we are taking it into development , wrote the minister of foreign affairs, dmytro kuleba, as always in such a story, when it comes to another psychological milestone, the reaction of our partners so far, oh, no, no, we cannot allow this to be a total excavation russia will consider this as our entry into the conflict, but for example, the usa declares that the supply of aircraft is impossible, but they add that this is a red line, but also last summer, the red line was himersi, it moved back, then it was battle tanks, and now we see what is happening, so the next rammstein and planes for ukraine, how realistic is it? well, we can see that these red lines already have different shades, starting from there , let's say dark gray, to, er, any other, and all these conditional lines that the kremlin has drawn for themselves are still less and less

and are of less interest to the international community, which wants to return to the rule of international law and to the recognition of internationally recognized borders of ukraine. the fact that this red line can remain, and it is on the one that, for example , our partners are already discussing the danks that were there as a red line and on occasion they declare that , for example, germany says that we will prepare there for two or three months and we earlier with tanks will appear, and the poles announced that they would train ukrainian tankers 4 weeks ago. now there is a competition like this, we already see it on airplanes, and this is why there is a wide discussion going on. and

now there are some processes going on. the video clip that today is also confirmed made public by the secretary of the national security council, it already directly declares that the f-16 fighter jet will soon be in the sky of ukraine. this is exactly the last slogan of this video clip, and at the same time , this video clip affirms all the positive combat characteristics of the f16, which we need precisely for supporting our counter-offensive with the aim of liberating temporarily occupied territories and returning to the internationally recognized borders of ukraine and of course squeezing out the occupiers and then punishing them following them but well, how much is this rammstein

it is confirmed that the meeting of which will be held on february 14, the aviation sector cannot do without you and, first of all , without the topic of aviation support, will the f16 decision be made on this rammstein we cannot say so, but what will be discussed it can be said precisely about the means of giving ukraine superiority in the air, and regarding such means, i would still consider the f16 as one of those already final chords, and i still think that it is possible that these aircraft will appear later and there is still a wide arsenal to significantly strengthen the air forces of the armed forces of ukraine, e.e., with aviation, looked at, including, the same modernized post-soviet aircraft brought to nato standards, as well as the mig-29, which

some of our partner countries have, which can also use a part of western weapons , and we also know about them what hasn't been done so far? the question has reached the middle -altitude strategic unmanned aerial vehicles with the ability to strike with air-to-ground missiles, such as the gri-igle or similar in this class, and also, as interesting things eh, so i still think that this rammstein promises to be very powerful and

which will also bring us a number of surprises eh with the leopard tanks reminded me of the famous work of the composer khachatur khachaturyan, the dance with sabers yes that is, it lasted too long the story was not finished well, accordingly, what do you think will the tanks from the european union arrive faster? yes, poland has promised us additional help from its modernized t-72s in sufficient quantity. what do you think, when will the germans finally clear the tanks for their delivery to ukraine so that they actually arrive and become, so to speak, at the disposal of our armed forces ? they can arrive no earlier than in three months, but as we have seen in terms of supplies, in principle, all supplies , including those from germany, they go with a certain advance, and in principle, you can understand

germany's statements about the fact that, well, how it is possible to further postpone this delivery date, because it is germany that has the biggest load and it must be marked by itself, namely, ensuring the functioning of e-e tanks on the battlefield in ukraine and, accordingly, all their material and technical support and logistical support for their use in ukraine therefore, of course, these are issues that need to be worked out very much, but the algorithm that already exists in our partner countries still allows it . well, the practice of its application that was before allows it is more or less optimistic to state that after all, the terms we are talking about are the appearance of tanks, er, they will be such that they will meet the needs of the armed forces of ukraine

, because, for example, er, everyone always declares and everything but it has always been so that everything that happens within rammstein - it finally meets the operational needs of the armed forces of ukraine and of course, it is better that these tanks arrive exactly when the personnel will be prepared, the entire infrastructure will be prepared for their use , the management system will be established formed units and carried out their combat coordinated only in this case this technique will be effective and it will be able to uh, let's say so significantly help then fulfill these tasks that uh-uh are facing the armed forces of ukraine. at least for the fourth time to launch missiles to distract the air defense forces, according to experts

, we are talking about the x-55 nuclear sweeper of the so-called special combat unit, what are they achieving? affects our ability to take place. well, here it should be said that education should look at it from the point of view that this is precisely the tika-55 that ukraine provided according to the budapest memorandum, which they refused and gave to the russian federation , now the russian federation is showing in every way that she has all kinds of attitude towards all international agreements of projects. she uh-uh where anywhere agrees and to comply with all international rules of procedure, this is the first uh secondly if it was uh-uh the first days when they used these missiles you could talk about certain hints because two similar missiles fell er earlier

times not far from the western countries of nato members from poland and romania somewhere about 50 km each and it was like a hint that such missiles are flying and you should think about no one pays attention to these signals and clearly made the brains understand that this will not lead anywhere and will only lead to faster punishment of the aggressor . now we can consider the use of hack 55 missiles precisely as a means of overloading our air defense system from the point from the point of view of combat use, these missiles are currently with simulators of the e-e nuclear warhead, they do not represent themselves much because , in fact, these are not high-precision missiles, they fly approximately in that direction and can fall from the point where they are directed somewhere at

a distance of from 500 m to 5 km, but still, our system must react and shoot it down, so now these missiles are in the most interesting place of them, contact valery ryabikh, director of development of the information consulting company defense express, we will hope that after the news yes sir valery, one way or another, to continue communicating with our viewers either on the espresso website or on the dfs express website, yes , 5 p.m. i actually think that it’s just another power outage that interrupted our conversation a little bit , nothing. sezonenko thank you colleagues scammer catchers are already in ukraine, but the state bureau of investigation has exposed a drug trafficking scheme in the kyiv sizo all details