[000:00:00;00] influence this is absolutely indisputable because i am so much so what will be published about corruption in ukraine - it will immediately hit the first spartiz eh let's say such newspapers as universities such tv channels viking kirpin at the briefing the day before yesterday in the white house. after the announcement of the transfer of tanks to ukraine, the first question was not about tanks at all, but about corruption cases in ukraine, so does this not concern some kind of american aid to ukraine that is, it is, of course, journalists. all interesting society is interested in it, therefore, any corruption facts are negatively marked, but uh , at the beginning of our conversation today, i said that corruption is everywhere, somewhere, it is more of

a monument, as i know, support for it must be really fought for, because if these corruption facts are revealed, they are being fought against , this is already more positive than simply, for example, the fact that the representative of his people, tyshchenko , is somewhere on vacation in thailand i am portraying her as myself. i don’t know a representative of the representative of the ukrainian diaspora in thailand or something like that. by the way , they wrote about it in american newspapers, but if they do, it will have a very negative impact on public opinion about the ukrainian government as a whole. this is because such facts must be dealt with, the ukrainian authorities must fight , no, no, everyone must understand that it is impossible to sit in two senses at the same time, be in a war and try some corrupt devices to do on on on on both

sides, literally on the blood, this is very it looks and of course that not approving the future of aid packages in ukraine can have a very negative impact on this because of course among our right -wing republicans who do not want to help in ukraine, they will cling to stop aid there, too . twitter , what is ukraine, the most provoked country in the world, there are other things . it will be used by the opponents of ukraine, and it will be used as you will spread russian propaganda and various useful agents. of russian propaganda to the world. well, this is the question. what should ukraine do in such a situation, fight corruption, try to comply with these western instructions, to what extent are kiev aware of all the dangers of such

processes in ukraine ? of course , it is necessary to fight this corruption. but judging by the reaction, there were students who were fired , there is probably some awareness. i am more confused by the fact that people like that, let's say the same deputy tyshchenko, do not have awareness of that. in what time do they live , what responsibility do i have for them , well, you went there, let's say to thailand. well , i'm just asking him to resign. men of his age cannot go to thailand, i understand, well, if i had already gone , i would have written a statement from there at least that i am no longer a deputy, but

i now live in thailand. that the deputy is quieter than to return and he has a lot more interest here than in thailand , believe me, the panel, you understand, well, the same very similar case happened to the american congress, but they elected a new republican congressman, no one knows who he is, well, yes, he, he, he lied there about myself, how can i ask for a criminal case against him, because it turned out that all the funds, the majority of the funds, were for his campaign fund, they are not, it is not clear where he appeared there. did he forge the signature of a banker or did he use his last name? he doesn't want to, so he doesn't want to leave his post with the congress . who would want it? who would want it? well, what's more, a good salary, various benefits and so on, access to various interesting things, that is, you see, this is a problem not

only of ukraine, it's here. the world simply because ukraine is now viewed as under a microscope, everything that happens in ukraine is seen by the world, so when it is reported that something similar is happening in ukraine, of course it immediately negatively affects the perception of ukraine in the world and it can be used by those who oppose provision of comprehensive assistance to ukraine, by the way, if you mentioned all these unpleasant situations, you can explain what is happening with these secret documents that were first found in lagomar on the front of the present of former president trump, now in the office of former president biden, documents from the time when he was from the president of the united states of the states is now in the office. as far as i understand, the former vice president of pence, what, why do these people continue to keep secret documents in themselves

, here i don't understand - what the nation just yesterday i asked all the former presidents and former vice presidents to check if they have secret documents from the time of their work in the governments. i think that what is happening is, first of all, such absolute negligence the attitude towards their duties as assistants of the appropriate people, what happened to the secret documents that trump found there, it's quite understandable, because trump deliberately took them there because he wanted to have them from some he explained that it was his and he should not give it to anyone. well, in the case of poor pensions, the situation is different. it is clear that their assistants who were there packing the papers of their offices , for example, they were finishing their work as presidents, sending the news to their homes, they simply worked sloppily, that is, they

were there for some reason. some documents that are secret, you can put all the boxes that you sent to their home with various private papers of mr. biden and a penny. there is biden's private office. i think that in congress should simply adopt a law to oblige these high-ranking officials to work exclusively with electronic documents with appropriate protection systems because when secret documents are printed , it is not known how many copies they are lying there somewhere on the table, well, on the table in the white house or there in the office of the vice president, it can go there . when then the assistants can take them and send them home to their bosses. one day, and the bosses leave their positions, it will be experienced.

their very inappropriate attitude to their duties and the fact that the system of working with secret documents. there must be some changes, because it is of course absolutely unacceptable what is being done, even though i am sure that neither biden nor bence are completely invisible in that they found these documents with the fact that they simply did not look and hmm, well, look, each of us once changed jobs , moved there, we download it, and after moving from one place to another, i packed something, i hope that i need it there, and then i could for many months i don’t even look for years to see what’s in the boxes, that’s the case when the box stops, secret documents are simply unacceptable. by the way, when barack obama was president, he worked exclusively with electronic documents, that is, there was a psychologist . i think that it is time to pass a law that would require to these high-ranking officials, simply do not

print these documents on paper on paper , er, make only electronic records of secret documents with appropriate protection and access , modern technology absolutely allows this to do then there won't be such scandals, there won't be high-ranking officials looking like that, that is, it's even funny in the eyes of society today . holocaust remembrance day is such a personal experience for you and me, but you can say to yourself, how did this happen? in fact, it turned out after several decades, but according to this experience of the war, it is a war with the civilian population. and by the way, those who are being rescued die from it, who have already survived the war and escaped from the holocaust during the second world war, and from this war

several people have not been saved, that in general no real conclusions have been drawn, and the most important thing is that russia, which all the time tried to show itself as a country whose soldiers liberated the last victims of the holocaust who managed to survive , turned out to be this country that practices genocide in its military policy vasyl groysman life and fate there is such a dialogue between the revolutionist matsuran lis and a communist from mosty, who sits in the nazi concentration camp. and this lis tells him that it does not matter which of us wins, the one who wins will be the continuation of the one who loses and i will do everything that i dreamed of doing everything that i dreamed of doing, that one of us will lose , unfortunately, that's how it happened, that is, in the village of rosman when he wrote this novel. it must have been him who wrote it after all. somewhere back in the 50s

, he i saw it very well and it is. that's how it happened, that is, putin's russia became an absolute continuation of nazi germany. i would say that it is no different if you take what putin expresses in his speeches and what people from his entourage express and take about the speeches by the voters about the youth, let's replace the word jews with the word ukraine, actually nothing else will need to be changed, because the west has already been hyper-battled with the west by western plutocracies in the same way that putin says that he is doing the same thing, so just like that it and they are they are modern russia i am absolutely a continuation of nazi germany it is terrible that it is happening in

the xxi century but i would say that what what what we are observing now it is sometimes sometimes close or not these are the war crimes of the times world war ii, because during world war ii, i think that there were not so many places that were simply destroyed on purpose. and what russia is doing now is simply absolutely completely unintentionally destroying ukrainian cities, and completely intentionally destroying universities , schools, hospitals, residential buildings, where are people they live it's all simple uh it's horror and this is either no different from what they did violence or i'm even worse than what the nazi did and that's why uh education education there is no

choice the world must russia to force a change because, otherwise, the civilized world will simply disappear if, if you allow it. if he allows it, or that russia can achieve something on the way that ivan was chosen, that is, it will lead to the disappearance of this civilized world. well, disappearance in what sense is not necessary its destruction is necessary. well, let's say trump comes to power for the foam , uh, there are alternatives for germany in all western countries. well, i will and i will be the whole civilized world around there, in the best case, such as hungary is today that's why it's a war, a war, a war between two completely incompatible civilizations with the same name, they cannot coexist , that is, either civilization will win or

civilization will disappear . thank you, mr. igor igoreisenberg, a professor at new york university. and about and here is the first question today in the world they are already mentioning about the holocaust, why was education not able to prevent this tragedy ? what is happening now in ukraine, in your opinion, falls under the definition , we discussed it with mr. igor maevska to answer this question, i will try to read another fragment of the book he mentions, the novel born in ukraine by the writer vasyl holosman on life and fate, but this is a documentary fragment of it of the novel is the last letter from a mother to a son and it is a novel that

tells about the times of foreign occupation , the first is very similar to what people who are now under russian occupation twice are going through. i am sure the letter will reach you even though i'm behind the front line and behind the barbed wire of the jew away your answer i'll never get me there won't be i want you to know about my last days with this thought it's easier for me to get out of people's lives sheep are hard to understand really on the seventh of july the germans broke into the city in the city garden, the radio was broadcasting the latest news, i was leaving the clinic after receiving patients and stopped to listen, the announcer was reading a ukrainian article about the battles, i heard distant shooting, then people ran across the garden and someone shouted, the germans broke through all night, the neighbors we went to each other more calmly than everyone else, there were small children and i decided what would happen to everyone , it would happen to me, and then i thought happiness that you are safe on the rags i fell asleep and when

i woke up i felt terrible that same morning i was reminded to forget during the years of soviet power i am jewish, and then some of my neighbors reminded me of it. the janitor's wife stood under my window and said to the neighbor, thank god, i have already given up my son and i am married to a jewish woman, and the old woman went to visit her son and told me about the grandchildren. my neighbor's widow, they are a girl. 6 years old elena and her sons, blue, strange eyes, i wrote to you about her once, she came to me and said, hanna semenivna, i will ask you to put away your things in the evening and i will move into your room, ok, then i will move into yours, i said , she answered, no, you will move into the closet behind the kitchen, i refused there is no window or stove, i went to the clinic, and when i returned, the door to my room was broken, my things were dumped in the closet, my neighbor told me that i kept the sofa, it still won't fit in your new room, it's strange, she graduated as a technician and her late husband was

a nice, quiet accountant was an accomplice, you are an outlaw, she said in such a tone as if it was very profitable for her, the new syllia and her daughter olenka sat with me all evening, i told her fairy tales. she did not want to sleep, her mother took her away, and then our clinic was reopened, and the coin of another doctor the jew was fired, i asked for money for a month's work, but the new manager told me to let stalin pay you for what you earned under the soviet regime, he does not care about moscow, many people impressed me and not only the dark embittered illiterate, this is an old teacher, pensioners, he is 75 years old, he always asked to say hello to you, he spoke about you, he is our pride, and these days he turned away from those who met him, then they told me that he said at a meeting in the commandant's office that the air was not cleaned with garlic, why are these words to him? they wander and at the same meeting but of course not

all of us went to this meeting, many refused . i am looking for these passages that i consider close to our today's realities . i think many people who survived the russian occupation feel it now. but before they always considered themselves a part of russian culture . i never felt like a jew since childhood . i grew up surrounded by russian friends. the hall for the audience was uncle vanya with stanislavsky and when tsvitinka , when i was a 14-year-old girl, our family was going to emigrate to south america and i told my dad i would not go anywhere, i would rather drown and not

go, but these are terrible days, my heart i was filled with motherly tenderness for the jewish people before, i did not know this love, it reminds me of my love for you, my dear son, i go to sick people's homes in tiny rooms, squeeze dozens of people half-tracked, elderly people, auspicious children, pregnant women, i am used to looking for symptoms of glaucoma, cataracts in human eyes now i can't look into people's eyes like that, in their eyes i see only the reflection of a good soul, a sad soul, well doomed and defeated by violence, and one with one that triumphs over violence, a strong one souls if you could hear with what attention old grandmothers ask me about you, how heartily they comfort me, what kind of people are there, what do people not complain about, or is the situation worse than a castle ? how touching it is that they give me a piece of bread, an onion, a handful of beans for treatment, this is not a fee for visits , when an elderly worker shakes

my hand, puts two or three potatoes in his bag and says , doctor, i'm begging you, tears come to my eyes, what is pure in this my father's good cannot convey this to you in words, i don't want to please you with the fact that i lived easily this time, don't be surprised, i'm surprised that my heart didn't break from pain, but i don't suffer from the thought that i was starving, and during all this time i've never been hungry. and i also i didn't feel alone, what can i say about people, people impress me, good and bad, they are very different although everyone experiences the same fate, but imagine if during a thunderstorm you are going to hide from the downpour, this does not mean that all people are the same and hide from the rain from the rain

each to their own occupation. it is always the same. the destruction of people by a government that considers itself superior to people is always the same. what the nazis did on ukrainian soil, and of course not only with jews, we are just talking now about the holocaust and recalling the jewish aspects of the tragedy of the destruction of the entire population of ukraine of the jewish population of ukraine practically but there were also other repressions, we also remember this very well when they destroyed those who disagreed when they destroyed those who dreamed of ukraine and these people miraculously ended up next to the victims of the holocaust in babyny yar, how symbolically the same is happening today with russian actions for

the occupied territories, such letters to their sons, many people who were sent to filtration camps or to some isolation could write to their children when i read mine or my colleague journalist aseev about what he had to go through in the concept camp, isolation in donetsk i always remembered this letter from the novel groysman also mentioned the novel of the great lithuanian writer balisa strog forest of the gods about the constitutional camp shtugov one of

of the most terrible constitutional camps in the machine of destruction of windy germany and thought how strange russia, whose citizens are still trying to be proud that they destroyed nazism not in stalin's time or when it was possible to blame it all on the communist dictator, now all these onslaughts of practice carry out a real concentration camp with leaves and bullying and with actual violence against human dignity and rape with the transformation of the prisoners themselves into the executioners of their comrades, this is of course and is such an obvious tragedy, why

do i have such complex emotions on this very day by and large, the holocaust was such a large-scale tragedy, in general , many people do not understand how such a tragedy can happen in the 20th century, which i have never seen before . the 2000th anniversary of the history of mankind. russians are not invited to the memorial ceremony for the victims of auschwitz, the same one who was released by the troops of the front, marshal ivan konev , and then ivan kodiv led the soviet union's operation to occupy czechoslovakia

, turning another country into already soviet the constitutional camp and even after the collapse of communism, even after it, russia remained this is such a zoo with filth with people who are ready to kill others and turn their lives into hell simply because these people do not share russian views on what life should look like not life, but geographical actually had many people fleeing from russian aggression both in 2014 and in 2022, and this must be said honestly . they did not see a big difference between their lives and the lives of citizens of the russian federation

, nor did they live in the same civilized world they watched the same tv programs, the same series, the same traditions, wore the same way of life, the same language, and absolutely did not want to change it, but they were sure that they live here in ukraine, and there in another country, russia. what is criminal in with such conviction, why should they say no, we don't have ukraine here, and there never was and could never be, their homes are being destroyed , ballistic missiles are being fired at them , these people are not being given the opportunity to escape, the holocaust was a war between the hitlerites and foreigners, although this was also

not true because german jews after whom they hunted in germany by practically nothing at that time they were no longer different from the rest of the population of the country from the germans, and even more so people who had 25% of russian blood there, there was a jewish grandmother or grandfather, but it was organized for a war with others, such people must be destroyed because we are germans. those here are fighting the same as us, they even say you are the same, you are not even ukrainians. you are russians, one people, but let us kill you all because you do not agree with us on this process on this matter

. let us make you happy after death this is even some other nazism, although the nazism of schizophrenics, the crimes of hitler could be found to find an obviously criminal logic, which in principle was clearly outlined during the nurburgring trial of putin. at the same time, the people who support him also have a place here and there, at the same time, this cannot be perceived as a manifestation of mere hatred, it is a manifestation of psychiatry. i really hope that we can overcome this

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