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which turned my whole life into one long night , i will never forget these faces of children whose bodies before my eyes turned into rings of smoke against the background of a silent sky , i will never forget it even if i was condemned to live forever as god himself , welcome to the air ukrainian service program voice of america time i am the host ostap yarysh on january 27, the world commemorates the six million jews systematically killed by the nazis and their accomplices during the holocaust on the international day of remembrance of the victims, us president joe biden condemned manifestations of anti-semitism and

urged not to give hatred shelter in america for future generations we will continue to protect our fundamental values ​​as a nation freedom equality and dignity of all people said joe byton in ukraine also honored the victims of the holocaust ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyi during a memorial ceremony in the babyn yar nature reserve said that more nations the world will overcome indifference, then there will be less space in the world for hatred, and one of the biggest news this week was the announcement of the transfer of western tanks to ukraine, in particular the american abrams which are called the most modern in the world, this happened with the funds that were allocated in the us congress to support the armed forces of ukraine, what american legislators say about the development of support for ukraine in the coming weeks and months, let's ask our correspondent kata lisunova, who joins the broadcast from the capitol hills. i congratulate you, ostape looking for the transfer of western tanks was certainly an important step on the part of the white house, but some criticized the administration for the fact that this decision

may have taken too long to communicate with american legislators, what do they say? in fact, the experts with whom our colleagues spoke with the voice of america, in particular , from the georgian service, were divided in their opinions, and some of them claim that such a long discussion process regarding the provision of tanks to ukraine signals weakness for moscow and shows vulnerable points on which the kremlin can submit why pressure, in particular in the field of disinformation , in addition, a delegation of senators that was in kyiv a few days ago, in particular , lindsey graham blumenta and the white house emphasized that this cannot be the case, that providing of such necessary tanks depends only on the one who will be the first to take such an important step from the partner countries. at the same time, the senators with whom i spoke yesterday emphasize that the most important fact is the fact that such tanks will be provided in the country, and the most important signal for moscow remains the fact that the western countries continue support

ukraine and continue to be steadfast in this support signal i believe that this was a decisive signal from the united states from the west to support ukraine and to find breakthrough opportunities to change the dynamics of the battle on benefit of ukraine and you know when we use the word hesitate we actually mean the process of analysis we just don't say what you ask and you get everything at once we have to analyze whether each request is the best request to achieve a common goal and the goal is for ukraine to win so i have a different view on what some call hesitation, for me it is a process of thoughtful analysis of what would be best to give ukraine now, how to help it achieve victory, no one has done more for this than the combined tripod. i hope that this step is still once again confirms that moscow was wrong

all this time, they were wrong and underestimated the will of ukrainians to defend their country, you were not wrong and underestimated the response of the alliance and what we have regarding the support of ukraine and their struggle for democracy. that's right. i hope this step has once again received a signal from vladimir putin that we are not going to retreat, we will continue to support ukraine, what should be the plan of action of western countries in the opinion of sanatoriums in order to resist a possible russian offensive, which many are now talking about you spoke at an important moment about the resistance to this next wave of russian offensive and even the prevention of this wave and the actual provision of the same tanks and all the necessary military aid for ukraine that ukraine actually needs and primarily this depends on the senators of the congress and american politicians at the same time the strategy of the confrontation itself is another waves of the russian offensive depends on the armed forces of ukraine and how they

will be able to repel this will depend on how they will use the aid the next offensive is being asserted. i consider it important that the united states and germany, as well as a number of other nato and european partners, are providing not only abrams advanced battle tanks, but also strykers and bradleys. all this armored vehicles will provide much more opportunities for ukraine. during the russian counteroffensive this spring to counter this possible russian counteroffensive which could happen soon i insist that these new systems be delivered as soon as possible i think that sends a signal to moscow that the west continues to resolutely support ukraine in its fight against russian aggression, i cannot describe the military strategy that should be used by ukrainian leaders , western countries are uniting to provide the weapons

that ukraine is asking for, but the strategy to protect ukraine from russian aggression is in the hands of the ukrainian military, this issue depends from the ukrainian armed forces, here we listen to them and do not take the initiative, we do not tell them how to do it, but we conduct active negotiations with them, the recent budget in which 45 billion dollars were pledged for additional military and other aid to ukraine , you show that we are with them, but we are not. to provide ukraine with american fighter jets, we heard such calls from the ukrainian president and from the ukrainian minister of foreign affairs. do they support such a step in the

united states congress? that's right. there is the provision of fighter jets in ukraine, do you remember the discussion regarding the provision of fighter jets to kyiv was held from the very beginning of the full-scale russian invasion, and also do you remember that they talked about how at the level of the european union regarding the provision of old-style fighter jets , the issue was also raised on at the legislative level of the congress regarding the start of training of ukrainian pilots a on american fighters, but so far all these efforts and all these raising of this issue remain without success because the congress has not yet agreed that the training of ukrainian pilots on american fighter jets is similar to europe, so far they have started providing ukraine with fighter jets, at least of an old model, at the same time, the senators with whom and the congressmen with whom i spoke yesterday claim that they support

the provision of fighter jets and all necessary military equipment to ukraine with both hands, so that in the end -finally end this war because it is by stopping russia that you can end this war , the senators and congressmen emphasize at the same time saying the fact that they support this provision and are ready to raise it to at the legislative level in congress, they also emphasize that in the end the final decision will always remain with the military leadership of the united states of america and they will decide when and whether to provide ukraine with fighter jets or at least a training program for ukrainian pilots. i suggest you listen to what the senators and contestants themselves told me yesterday simply now i support the provision of fighter jets to ukraine because you cannot win a war half-heartedly and i am not saying that we are acting at half-strength now, but when the deputies of the verkhovna rada were here with a visit, it was

very powerful, then five women showed us notifications on their phones that at this moment there is a missile attack, they have children, they are very strong and one of them said something that really struck me, she said now weapons are humanitarian aid well, i don't mind the provision of fighter jets i am not against it but it will be decided by our military leadership i support the provision of fighter jets i have supported this initiative from the very beginning of the conflict thank you very much for your information for your work i will remind you that our contact was contras correspondent katya lisunova thank you, yes, and to provide ukraine with aircraft and long-range radio missiles to judge the attacks, the former us secretary of defense markesper

also called . considers the mistakes of the biden government to be continued iryna matviychuk, the former us defense minister markesper considers the policy of the western countries regarding ukraine to be correct but too slow , we are not concerned in russia in the spring, which is march to which is five weeks left, so let's calculate the logistics to deliver the tanks, it takes weeks to train the crew, it takes weeks, we need to teach them not only individual platoons, but also how to work collectively, we need to create the logistics of material and technical support , a replenishment system, i'm afraid we won't be ready in time, home and allies not to delay decisions regarding attack missiles and aircraft for the armed forces of the ukrainian armed forces, in his opinion, ukraine should have received tanks in the fall instead of reacting to the threat of a russian offensive, i was sick of seeing

that the ukrainians will go on the offensive right now, while the russians are still trying to train and organize their military to defeat them and push them out of ukrainian territory, but now we are defending the tanks, they should have been handed over to the ukrainians in september or october. we should send them attacks so that the ukrainians could reach deep of eastern ukraine into the depths of crimea in order to destroy the launch sites of the shaheds , the destroyed launch sites for launching rockets , logistics warehouses , barracks, anything, you need to have accurate weapons on long distance we had to approve the provision of aircraft to them, this gave them an advantage if they are going to engage in a combined military battle, it is necessary to have not only indirect fire , but also fire from the air, the former head of the pentagon is convinced that military aid to ukraine will not lead to escalation, as the russians say he urges the white house to make decisions on military aid more quickly and in larger quantities american containment policy toward russia he considers

too weak we cannot allow the russians influence our decisions rattling weapons and restraining ourselves because we are already behind look we didn't give ukrainians a really reliable air defense system until the russians started destroying ukrainian cities with shaheds and skands and others so we are behind kasper by political views republican but gives credit to the president democrat to biden for the successful creation of a coalition to help ukraine, he calls the us leadership in creating a coalition decisive for helping ukraine the president's administration has done a good job regarding the unification of the allies not only from a military point of view but also from an economic diplomatic financial point of view for me it was very important because this is where the pikkin is looking whether the west will stand up to russia and whether they will press to protect this young democracy i was very happy when not only nato, but also japan , korea, australia and others who supported

ukraine and it was wonderful, of course, i was disappointed, for example, india, the former head of the pentagon is skeptical about peace negotiations with russia. he believes that the war should end when ukraine regains control over all its internationally recognized borders. in my opinion, they should push russia out of ukraine , including crimea, and restore the border of ukraine within the framework of the 14th year, and then we should talk about responsibility for russian atrocities , about reparations, how to help restore ukraine , that is a number of things that need to be done in my opinion, but in the end it should be the decision of president zelensky of the ukrainian parliament and the people of carbon to be the minister of defense in the united states in 2019-20, according to the administration of president donald trump he supported the provision of javelins to ukraine, the first lethal weapon for ukraine during the war, in his new memoir, the sacred oath of memory of the minister of defense in times of emergency

, he describes, among other things, us policy and criticizes the then president donald trump iryna matviychuk dmytro melnyk voice of america meanwhile the ukrainian military continues military training on air defense systems patriotvoklahomi one of the local senators handed over the political battles to their arrival in the usa the republican-nei tam dam published a resolution to cancel the training in response, the leader of the state senate and six other local legislators said the resolution does not speak on behalf of the majority of the senate and the residents of lohomin. read more about how oklahoma reacts to the military training of ukrainians in the story of daria vershilenko raises the ukrainian and american the flags on the facade of his company, because due to strong winds , they have to be removed from time to time for more than 20 years of life, timothy gave up military service, finally

the ukrainian military arrived here in oklahoma to study i was very excited because i know how important it is for them and i understand how important it is for us to support them in the fight for freedom and started my military career ford forces ago for me it is a very personal thing at the beginning of a full-scale war of russia against ukraine timothy the owner a company that rents and sells household equipment financially helps ukrainian children , hopes that the training of ukrainians in his state will help protect children from russian missiles, the us armed forces train thousands of foreign soldiers in the united states and the training of the ukrainian military on the patriot anti-aircraft defense system does not pose a danger, however, the sena marketer submitted the arrival of the military to

the local legislative body and ukrainians on the territory of the state of oklahoma and they contacted me with concerns about the presence of not just foreign military personnel . after all, we often have foreign military personnel and military personnel who are at war people believe their presence here in oklahoma will potentially contribute to the escalation of the war people believe it could potentially do in the future i am not against ukraine i am not against russia especially the peoples of both countries but this is not our war this is not our battle we must put america first under the published resolution on social networks dozens of comments many residents support their senator we really care about that ukrainian soldiers here at fort sill are trained on patriot missiles, how are taxpayer dollars being spent when the people of oklahoma deserve better than providing housing, food and

the training of ukrainian soldiers this is not our war, i appreciate your efforts to do the right thing, thank you senators dan for your work for the people of okla. god bless you, senator , ladies, stop your dirty pr company on the blood of ukrainian civilians in ukraine with such slogans, after the publication of the resolution, activists of a small ukrainian community came out under the legislative body of oklahoma, the ukrainian military are coming for training, they will be trained by american specialists, nothing from the side, it looks like the senator does not trust the american specialists who will constantly watches how the ukrainian military trains, they do not see any risk in the training of ukrainians and roger randel, a former local congressman and senator, and now a professor at the university of oklahoma, a week at ford and allies from other armed forces of the world have been coming for many decades, i do not know that any such incidents have ever happened as a result of the presence

of representatives of america's allies from around the world . i don't think that we want russia and china to dominate this world, and when we have the opportunity to protect democracy, i think we need to do this, i think that this will be my position on the issue of helping ukrainians in this situation, a resolution against the arrival of the ukrainian military for training do not reflect the opinion of the majority of americans, says democrat senator mary boren, but she notes that in oklahoma there are more people who take this position than in other states, but that's me, you. i would say that most of us do not agree with with their sentiments, we support the army, we will support the united states of america and

our role in preserving democracy around the world, the resolution against the military exercises of ukrainians was stopped by the statement of the current leader of the state senate , greg trid, and six other senators , the training of the ukrainian military will last up to six months. darya vershilenko for voice of america from oklahoma, we will continue to talk about ukrainian cinema, which travels around the world , the ukrainian polish drama shchedryk is currently being presented to american audiences, the film tells the story of three families of different the nationalities of ukrainians, poles and jews living in ivano-frankivsk, at first the second world family unites in the face of war and repression by the nazi and soviet authorities, however, the heroes do not lose their national identity, preserve it through the decades despite severe oppression , the generous melody helps and more about the film we can talk to his producer

artem kolyubaev, and he is also the chairman of the state support council for cinema artemy . congratulations. thank you for taking the time to join the broadcast. good day, thank you for the invitation, yes. indeed, our film is currently traveling around the world . we managed to make a screening in the ukrainian orthodox church in the suburbs of washington, in the church of st. andrew, ah, i want to say that a lot of people came, and the hall was full . just one example because we also had screenings as part of the marathon that we organized for families to help ukraine, we showed ukrainian films all over the world and shchedryk was the headliner there, we showed them in new york, and we started with this film and also

well, the screenings are going very well. and yes, i can see that the indicators are also quite good. the fourth weekend of the film will now begin, and if i am not mistaken, more than uah 7 million have already been taken for the screenings, that is, despite the shelling , despite the air alarms, the interest is not only maintained. it turns out that it is growing among ukrainians yes, i want to say that this is an absolutely record situation when during the war they started with a ukrainian film . at first, we had a bad picture with cinemas , but this is an absolute record because in our country everyone next weekend is even bigger and more gatherings, so as of this morning there were 7 more than 7 million hryvnias already and now the fourth weekend is starting . that is, we have until monday there will be some indicator and the ukrainians are going despite the means despite the bombing and this well, that says that the audience wants to see ukrainian cinema, they want to feel their history , because our film shows that everything that happened 80 years ago is now being repeated and, uh, well, it is being repeated according to the same

patterns by the actions of the soviet authorities, how is it the parallel was interesting at the time, because the film was shot in 2020, and it was planned to be shown earlier, but now it happened . they started showing it at the beginning of this year already after russia carried out its full-scale invasion. it is probably perceived differently now than it would have been if it was released, let's say, a year or two ago. i absolutely agree. we finished shooting it. we had a pause and recession. we finished shooting it in the 20th year. on february 23, 2020, we presented the trailer. to our movie in theaters so literally 12:00 before the beginning of the full-scale invasion of the russian federation, we presented it at all film festivals as part of the winter cinema market, with the fact that we are coming out on the 22nd year in december, we are releasing this film for the holidays , but on the night of the full-scale invasion, there was a full-scale invasion

of the russian federation and we didn't leave anyway, i was thinking about the fact that we should go out for rent and it was already available for rent in january, that is, we moved our rental for a month and already it is perceived differently because i know personally on the example of his children and children who were engaged in this shchedryk who played people who during the war hid in the occupation and real stories of the same children who played there during this war and how it affected the children and so on and the main character presented this film in warsaw polina gromova told her story of evacuation from kyiv together. yes, she talked about how she managed to play a child who was there during the war, and now she understands everything that she played and she experienced this enough in the film even before unfortunately for her

i had to experience it in real life, and people who are watching it now perceive it differently both abroad and in ukraine, and all the reviews are very uh, well, that is, people go through this film and pass it through themselves. i am saying that the perception in ukraine and in of the western audience from the experience of the screenings you already had abroad. very similar. very similar perception. people are crying . for example, we first started with the festival distribution of the film in our country. the film was at the closing of the irish film festival. hallelujah, it’s a big film festival in ireland and ours was the closing film and i personally went to the presentation, our main character was yana, who lived temporarily in ireland, and hiding from the war. and i want to say that it was a powerful closing film, people cried

and everyone cried. that is, it was not a ukrainian audience , it was the irish, the british, the chinese, and people came up after the show, shook their hands, expressed sympathy for the war in ukraine and said that they understand us there, and so on. that is, it means that the story is clear to everyone and this the film explains many, many situations regarding the difference between russia and ukraine regarding the difference between our people and the russians and after this pro- after this film there are already questions a-ah that ukraine is an appendage of the russian federation there or a part and so further, this indicates that we are a separate people, a separate nation that exists well without the russian federation, and now we

are trying to prove it to the whole world. invasions were new sensei, no, these meanings have not changed, we constantly embed a-a in our film. i also shot cool 19:18 a-a, roughly speaking, about the first world war, yes, about the events that preceded it. but we did not change the editing of the film under during the war, that is, it was completed in our country, we presented it on february 23 before the beginning of the invasion and sent it to the festival, it has not changed. it’s just that we predicted many things that are in the film, for example, we have heads the main antihero is played by andrii sayenko he says in poland that this is not war, this is liberation, yes. and this is very acutely perceived now, because this is the same message that they are now trying to spread all over the world, that they are

liberating someone from someone, and this is absurd, as it was then and now people understand it. people now, well, the messages were there and they were quite convincing . you will, uh, you organized screenings in washington. after that, what are your plans here in the united states, where else do you plan to show them ? together with public the organization of which i am the head is a public organization, a union of tele entrepreneurs. the same goes for production, a public organization, look ukrainian, and with the support of the state agency on norms, they organized cinema and a marathon that showed ukrainian tapes all over the world , and all the funds that were collected were collected at the armed forces of ukraine directly to the funds associated with the armed forces of ukraine on come back alive and also on the special background of the state agency stopkino in support of the wounded cinematographers and there were screenings in new york, then we are now separate

as the film is shown in washington, we, together with the church, together with ours, collected funds for these funds, purchased the necessary things for the military, and we will transfer them there, too. at the weekend, there will be a screening in boston for the jewish community, and all the funds collected will be targeted used for the purchase and support of the ukrainian army and the ukrainian civilian observer territories. by the way, these are the connections between communities, nationalities, jews , poles, ukrainians. how is this topic revealed in the film? screening at the boston jewish film festival, where we were invited to present the film in the summer, and after the film, my grandmother came up to me. well, to be honest, she was under a hundred years old. that is, she was very old. she came up and burst into tears and said that she was a jew who was saved by a ukrainian family and all that is happening on the screen. this is just a story about her, and this is how it can be said that our film is a true story, because it is a collective image of the situation that happened then in

stanislav at that time, this is the city of ivano-frankivsk and such there were stories, that is, ukrainian families actually counted jewish children, and uh, such events happened artem, briefly, where can you watch the film now, we are currently finishing the rental, we are currently doing uh, free screenings, donate to the ukrainian army, and after the official rental is completed on territory of ukraine, we will sell it on viod platforms in ukrainian all over the world, and then it will be officially possible to watch it all over the world artem thank you very much for this interview artem kolyubayev is the producer of the film shchedrik, we will say goodbye to this and conclude our issue see you next week take care thank you events