[000:00:00;00] to pay already for all the things that she did on the territory of our country, the only situation is the only thing that we cannot do with you is to return the lives of our citizens who, unfortunately , died in this war well, the most important thing i can say to these children who died in this war and only about 500 already. they definitely weren't to blame for this, all the garbage . i don't know what they have to do in order for repentance to happen for these uh things they did on the territory of our country. i want to say that everything depends only on us here if someone thinks that someone will come here to build some kind of society, then they will help us build our country. as soon as we can build it, because there are other interested persons on the new planet earth , in order for our country to be strong, fair

, powerful, big, it does not exist, it is only we who have to do this is our task, this is our duty, on radio svoboda well, what do you have to say? come more often, thank you very much, thank you, thank you. well , today we also planned, i announced the topic to you. we wanted to talk about the fact that the venice commission officially refused the appointment of members to the advisory group of experts, which should participate in the selection of judges of the constitutional court, and until ukraine implements these recommendations of the venice commission, they will not delegate their experts to this one, this is a very important topic, it concerns judicial reform. and judicial reform, i will remind you, is one of the requirements for ukraine on its way to the european union, we will definitely return to this topic on monday and discuss it in more detail directly with experts . well, in the meantime, i urge you to subscribe to

the pages of radio svoboda on the internet are social networks instagram telegram facebook viber and also two channels on youtube radio svoboda and radio svoboda ukraine svoboda life will return to the air on monday, art in a country of war, a series of documentaries , each of which will tell about one of the ukrainian artists, artists who did not go abroad and continue their creative path. in ukraine, i have the impression that history just entered now, yes, at some such moment , where everything just came together in a linear way. what was happening there that we remember then was a kind of drag , but it seems that it is all at one moment and we see that everything is repeating itself, but how the place and meaning of the artist and his work change. in a country that is at war, see in the new television series from the studio

doknot film and association babylon 13 art in the country of war from january 16 on weekdays from monday to friday at 11:10 on espresso the war raised its head again in europe reminding us of the darkest hours of our history franz 24 constantly covers events in ukraine our the team on the ground and in the studio will inform you about the dynamics of events. watch the latest news from frantz 24 in ukrainian on espresso. the war in ukraine is the main topic for ukrainians. victories and losses. analysis and forecasts . politics and geopolitics . serhiy rudenko and the guests of his program will talk about all this. people with information. and shape public

opinion people who defend ukraine and create the future right now the main and interesting thing in the program is the verdict serhiy rudenko from monday to thursday at 1:00 p.m. repeat at 6:00 p.m. never me never forget that night, the first night in the camp, which turned my whole life into one long night, never forget those faces of children whose bodies before my eyes turned into rings of smoke against the background of a silent sky , never forget it even if i were condemned to live

forever as god himself is the clothes, by the way, the first show of her collection took place in february 2022, in may, yuria went to the front again, they went to the front again in may, but i have a question, in general, how did you decide to fight, you once said in an interview that you really wanted to go to fight, why so my desire was back in the 14th year and you want to fight it was, as it were, quite logical because i was an active participant in the revolution of dignity and there, you know, this whole process that was taking place, er, of such a union of some sort of spiritual even uniting with the people and further this whole struggle and well, for example, i always say when people ask me when this war started, i say that for me personally, the war started on the maidan with the first person killed on the maidan, that is, for me , the war in our country began back in 2014 not even

in the 14th and, accordingly, after the 14th year, the maidan ended, the occupation of our territories by russia began, and there was such a feeling, you know. well, i was just ashamed of the fact that i was one of those who fought then i'm like that, no, i won't be any good at these processes , well, i was uncomfortable with this and that's why, although they persuaded friends not to go to the front, it's still so dangerous there , they'll kill me, uh, well, but in the end, i don't care did not hold back and in october already went to the front and ended up in the hospital where i am zinkevich and how did you go to the hospital itself? did you go there? i have a purposeful position of principle. i will be a pharmacist. i thought i would go to fight there. i can shoot and do whatever i want. especially since at that time i

still had to study. to do all this and to gain this knowledge, and i contacted one of my acquaintances about it. well, i knew him from the maidan. and he introduced me to maria from berlin . i think you also know who she is, and already maria, we have not met yana zinkevich who told me she was going to. well, you will leave there they will pick you up the day after tomorrow. well, i went and already arrived at the base of the hospital, well, at the base of the fifth battalion of the right sector, and there i began to study there . i fought in the donbass for 5 years, from 14 to 19 years , i was constantly learning, gaining new knowledge about tactical medicine there, they reached

a higher level and already, well, they said that i worked at all stages of evacuation, just at at different stages, there should be a different level of knowledge, well, with regard to the provision of care at the post-hospital stage. that is, first aid itself does not really require a lot of knowledge, but there is a nuance that usually there is a child somewhere where first aid is very risky for life. pay attention to the turnstile lay this help it takes place in such and such zone in the zone under fire where you yourself can get injured and die a higher level of knowledge we have already given to me - denys surkov er, this is also known quite a person in our circles, he is a certified instructor of the protocols of the nativ tccs in medical care, plus he knew your colleagues

well. paramedics consider him to be the coolest now. he is the coolest. he is the coolest if our guru, we all who studied in the 40s, that is, it is enough to say simply those people who understand this issue when they ask well, what do you know where you were there everything you know, you can simply say i am a student of 40 and there i have so-and-so education so already after studying with him, of course, i reached a new level and in this the whole question can already be answered there to work with svl equipment there and tracheal intubation, well, that is, it is such a level that not everyone has such a level, well, not every person with a medical education has such a level, and even these courses that he took there were people with a medical education who could not pass the exams to take the exams there for example, i put all this together and it worked for me, and they were also very surprised. how could it be? well, because i don't have a medical education . well, what is it? i didn't study at the institute in this and that, but it just so happened that

life taught me everything was just to leave alive with well, there was a career there, friends, some hobbies until the 13th year, until the 14th, you just left everything and left, well, it somehow turned out just like that, no, then it was not difficult. but even now, in the 22nd year, it is more difficult , because, first of all, the whole this scale of what is happening, yes, it is already more difficult for everyone, plus my city, i myself am from kharkiv, and what happened in my city, there are events related to my mother there, which are also there. i understand that she is in danger, but not she could not do anything about it, she could not even elementary provide her with food sat in the basement and i could not find a person who could take her food when all these shellings were taking place there, but at the same moment i was in kyiv and we and the women's veteran movement were engaged in providing military and civilian supplies and we bought

hundreds and armored vests of straw and purchased dozens of cars and we did all this there, they brought them from europe, my friends there gave large sums of cash and went abroad , they brought it all, i understood that i could manage such, well, rather large-scale processes. well, for me personally, and cannot it is elementary to make sure that my mother brought something to eat. well, of course, this also somewhat complicated the whole situation . it is easier for me to live in this war. now the account is that i can be very useful, and this makes me happy and makes my life as if it's easier for me. well, that's how i perceive it. that's how you came, the hot spots of donbas. the sands are wide, yes , and in action, what kind of kamenka, well, kamenka, that's all for

me. you know how i say. i say the usa in the united states. was nearby . if you compare then and now, what is there? the difference, well, look, for example, at the moment it has become, well, at least what is happening. i am not there now, not in the bahamian direction. yes, we are now in such a direction that, in principle, already reminds me of ato and what happened in those years, but when we are in may only we went to the front, er, it was of course such an intensity, such events happened to me every day at the front . they usually happened during the anti- terrorist operation. and this year were also still quite intense, but such types of weapons were not used, yes, already in the 22nd, well, but the war was still quite intense over time, the intensity decreased and the number of wounded became much less, and there are

days when you risk your life there as well it became much less in the 22nd, when we arrived in kharkiv oblast in may, every time we left, well, it’s real, i’m not kidding , well, i just wondered every time that we were coming back, did we get caught every day ? yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, it was. so it was every day when we left then we had battles uh these days well almost every day and we always when we returned there to our headquarters came there to hand over the radios for the next group that will go there tomorrow there these well we changed there it's always like that it seemed that there were such people at the headquarters. well, they came to you again. they didn't believe in us. they didn't believe in us , but they just found out that we can go, that we climb. i have

a crew, for example, a man and two women there were situations there when we are sitting in the basement to hide and there on the radio enemy aircraft enemy aircraft all exposures all exposures well, i also start to descend and here the continuation on the radio cuba for departure well cuba is if not only me but all my crew alaska artist and alaska and why us why us well and a bunch of men also medics sitting there and they are all such cubans explain well let’s go we went out like that with us there was one guy who was our fire-, er cover and we went out in turntables there they fly enemy aviation and us we leave and uh, even there, well, as they said that few people can go to such places, and they have already ticked the box for themselves

that they should send us in the same way, and so we drove it , now there is no such thing, now it is more or less calm uh, well, the place where we are, because i know because my friends also work with the hospital, all of my acquaintances in the village of dari and in the direction of bakhmut, and there is a completely different situation there, so far, everything is so hot , now i feel like no, it's not like it's safe it's may there, it's the beginning of summer , how did you go through it psychologically, you say that every time men are afraid of you , they send you to dangerous places, how did they manage, you need not only to think about yourself, but also to think how can this person save a wounded person? well, i don't know how we experienced

it, judging by everything, we have such characters, we are quite cheerful there, the sense of humor is at some high level. there was a situation, that is, there is adrenaline. i noticed that a long time ago, from the age of 14 , i noticed that the effect of adrenaline on a person can be, or you, on the contrary, become more effective. intravenous access is there when there is a stressful situation, when they just tell me that they are going to make a drip, go as a person. is it possible to sit and poke these veins there and not put a catheter , a pressure situation , i am somehow going to do all this. nothing to do in such conditions, i think that these are after all two types of people and that it does not even depend on some kind of upbringing there, some intellectual abilities, it is something laid here from the very beginning and everything is great because i saw the video

of your rescues, there is so much blood well, there are shots from donbas. yes, when you just hold a person’s hand there, order. she’s just covered in blood and you’re also helping her, well, it ’s just for a girl, and no, you don’t have to do it here . you see, i’m with men worse than women, or are women braver there and so on, it's just not at all it depends on the gender, it's this one, well, you or you can or you can't, it doesn't matter whether you're a man or a woman, in this matter it doesn't matter at all, you, for the wounded, it's not only a doctor who provides help , you them, well, at that moment, i don't know if the closest person is a psychologist or there who are they talking about? they understand. well, some of them may not make it. well, sometimes you understand that when a wounded person is really in a serious condition, he will not talk to you, as

sorokov says again. our teacher, what if your the wounded screams in pain. that's what you have to scream with joy well, accordingly, if a wounded person is talking to you, it means that he has no problems with the respiratory tract, he can talk, and all these things about how if a wounded person talks. well, there may also be some there are different states of confused consciousness, but basically if a person talks to you, then this is already a good sign, because if a person is in such a state that he may not be able to make it, then most likely this person will already be connected to oxygen and in there will be a non-torch tube and she she will be unconscious and talk to you she won't be anymore and what are they talking about, well, we love and it happens in different ways well , i remember, i remembered one moment when we were taking out

one wounded person and i asked him well, he was like that, well, closer he had problems with his eyes there , too, by the way, i changed the bandage there because you can't just tie the eyes with a bandage , you have to put special nets there, otherwise then there is a risk of being left without eyes and the guys gave it incorrectly help is such by the way it happens from time to time, that is, i understand that there are many uneducated, uneducated guys at the front who do not know even the most basic things there, and i was there changing this bandage for him , i quickly cut off this bandage, i wanted to save his eyes, by the way, he can see in both eyes, and i changed it to shields and i want them, i asked, how do you feel there? well, i don't remember my question exactly, but his answer is that he is lying down and he is like that, vasya is bleeding, uh, he still

had a tourniquet on his arm, well, they don't see anything bleeding, he is already lying behind ukraine like that the answer was there to my question. how do you feel about ukraine? he is so emotional. somehow he said it so that he was so emotional. i don't regret that he even got into such a situation because he knows why he does it. class is what distinguishes us from the enemy is this heroism and understanding. what are we fighting for? well, i don't understand - especially when they fall into their friends there. well, somewhere they also communicate with each other , they have some kind of relationship with each other, and then when they find themselves on a foreign land -is what are they fighting for here? well, i don't understand your cases of communication with them, perhaps some prisoners. well, not personally, i worked with the group of the spider ruslan postovoi. and

there, when in the 16th year, in the 16th year , the group was divorced and there was an operation, but when they took 8 prisoners, then they took them, there were russian soldiers and the so-called ukrainians , well, i don’t remember how many there. well , there were eight men in total, and i, well, at least if i saw them with them well, we didn't really communicate there. to be honest, i didn't ask, but all the same, i had such a peculiar impression from them, hmm, i don’t know why, but i always think that the people who fight on the ukrainian side seem to me to be somehow beautiful , well, it doesn’t even depend on uh, you know, uh, some external data, but something

so internal that it glows from the inside, and these people are immediately a kind of darkness to me, something so unpleasant, something so repulsive, this is my impression of these prisoners, but then even more or less if she was loyal, then to them although even then it was already a war, it was already terrible war beautiful people died, all this was underestimated by many. that's why it was scary. well, because, for example, i was waiting for a full-scale invasion back in the 14th year, eh, or in the 15th, i was waiting for it, on the contrary, it happened that when it was not there, i already i already thought, well, it probably won’t be like that, i assumed that this could happen from the very beginning , i was accumulating some kind of call sign, and then, unfortunately, he got into such a situation. he was in the steel and was captured. well, they were there surrounded by and i always

collected some kind of medicine there, even for me there i don't know through whom, how they were transferred, you know, there are such syringes, still of the soviet model, which are reusable, which you have to boil somehow, yes, and me, and walter asks me, he says, "what do you need to throw it away ? and i say in case of a boiler, that is, i have i was always preparing. i think i always thought to myself that uh, let them be better in case of a boiler, but it won't be necessary before such a situation happens, and i won't have all this, well, but we also had this joke about the boiler, and he even there he came to my facebook page and we constantly talked about it they were joking and then at some point he really got into it in mariupol and was captured and thank god he came back there was an exchange and he came back i talked with him there sometime in 2019 why did you decide to go to the reserve you fought and something happened

i had a very difficult situation. my personal one and i had emotional burnout, depression, i had no energy for anything. when i heard a step outside the door, i just had panic attacks because i was afraid that someone would come and be with me now talk and in general, since then, i still have a phobia of phone conversations. i really don't like talking on the phone, i don't know why it can be, it's like, uh. the feeling that now there may be some bad news, that you will be told something bad, but before the war, i i spoke normally on the phone, now i feel much more comfortable in the form of a message of some kind, er, to communicate with people and this whole moral state, plus i understood that the medical service that we , for example, created in the iron mykhailo in the first assault company, er, it can already to work fully without my presence , that is, i was not there, there was no such need for me and in general at the front . at that time, there were already quite a lot of trained

paramedics who had combat experience and who could provide assistance and deal with evacuation. full-scale, then the situation changed because the front became much larger and the number of already trained paramedics with experience , well, it is logical. someone under you to teach and you know how to release new pyramids into this world . well, it seems to me that it should work somehow . because i always say that this war has been going on since the 14th year. we are lucky that it happened because that this was a training ground for those who wanted, they learned, they gained experience and they can now pass on all their experience, because if there was no war in donbas and just a full-scale

invasion at once, then we would have much less chances, just our victory is now the question time and endurance and help, of course, partners, well, weapons, we need weapons, a lot of weapons, and then everything will be fine, even all other issues besides weapons can be solved by people. it’s just that our volunteers are there, tactical medicine is there , even some kind of transport, well, if we are not talking about armored by the way, there is not enough there mt-lb and everything else, even the ukrainian people can get it there, they can buy it there, you can already make a uniform . that is why you became the initiator or one of the initiators

of starting to sew military uniforms for women in your uniform here. now, let's say we have developed a women's uniform and it is offered by the ministry of defense. but we are not the only one and the ministry of defense chooses someone. one method is the women's veteran movement. that's right, because here we have already become multifunctional and these functions change depending on the needs. because when kyiv was still under the threat of occupation , when russian troops were around, uh, we worked very intensively here, apart from all that, we made supplies there , we have a laboratory where drones are manufactured there or they are being tuned, well, you can just take an ordinary drone there, thermal imaging it there, well, add it there, or add something else, we had a restaurant open where we cooked the fire, and they also delivered it, but for example, when it was already kyiv, well,

kyiv region was liberated, then well we felt that there was no longer any need for the restaurant and we closed it. well, a workshop appeared there , for example, my teacher stanislav bitus joined me. well , he is the person from whom i studied fashion design, and anna suvorkina is also one of the best designers in ukraine. still directly created medicines for women's uniforms , before that you alone gave strength to men, it was not comfortable, well, this is such a question . of course, you can also wear men's uniforms, but there are nuances, that is, if we take the same pants with knee pads, then if i wear them , i have knee pads here, here, above

my knees. protect because it is anatomically so that women have longer legs than men, the problem is that women have breasts that men do not have, and if there are no suprathoracic folds, then everything will be pulled here, too, and there will be maximum inconvenience in the fit of pants, hips are different if these are men's pants. so when a woman sits down, her waist will immediately move and it will also be inconvenient if we hire a female doctor, but especially for war somewhere in civilian life it is not of such fundamental importance, and if in war it is very important plus very often men's pants they short ones too, that is, you also wear breeches. and when you bend your leg there, you already have a bare leg. well, it’s also uncomfortable, so all these little nuances are felt very strongly directly in the war. well, we women now have quite a lot

there are many in the army, and if we are there, we are also a medical crew, well, for example, i don’t sit in the trenches. well, because war is not limited only to cops, but there are many women who sit in the trenches, er, there are stormtroopers who go there to storm and of course and of course, they need convenience, even when we developed the uniform. at first, we sent the first batch of forces to the girls on the front line and the girls gave their comments . after that, we adjusted something. so that there is nothing else to do yes, you leave there, you decide what is better button or velcro well, but in fact it is really important and we want the women's uniform to be implemented in the ministry of defense