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this is the personal composition of people, we are hedgehogs, we are others, and we will not give ours away, and we will not let go of kherson - it is the same for security, it is necessary to pay for her absence, to pay for the year 2022, ukrainians will always remember irpin bucha borodyanka raisin-mariupol, russians killed, raped , shot and abused of ukrainians, and this list is far from final, in every liberated city, our military finds rashi torture camps, such scale of war crimes was not expected by world leaders, and
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they all constantly emphasize the need the trial of criminals, but what to do if it is not possible to prosecute despite the evidence and facts, the answer to this is in israel, a country that is constantly at war, a country against which crimes are committed and operations are planned , it is not always possible to punish in court for various reasons, that is why in in israel, such a well-known and at the same time mysterious mossad operates, and despite this, we work without unnecessary emotions, because its motto is to lead your war wisely - this is an abbreviation, its name
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is deciphered as the intelligence agency and special tasks, and the main goal is to protect the state of israel from any external threats. israel wants the palestinian people to surrender. if we palestinians wanted it, the problem of this conflict was solved 70 years ago, but people feel injustice and we will certainly react to it. international actors should at least once demonstrate solidarity so that israel stops aggression against the palestinians. and although in the israeli-palestinian conflict everyone clearly defends his truth not in lastly, thanks to the siege, the israelis feel strong and safe. this is our country. i believe that the constant tension and escalation with the palestinians is nothing. i don't think they are right. the palestinians are guests in our country
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. the kidnapping of eichmann. the sword of damocles. for understanding israeli intelligence agents disrupted ballistic missile development projects of another country by eliminating its main initiators to steal a brand new fighter jet of another country thanks to the recruitment of its military to destroy for more than 20 years, the organizer and you are the participants of the terrorist attack at the munich olympics in 1972, and most importantly - the mossad was able to take revenge for the genocide of its people, the importance of our exhibition is not so much in highlighting the details and mechanisms as it was implemented, but in an example that should be studied by everyone, so that such a monster as eichmann and the regime in which he worked never appeared again
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. the kidnapping of adolf eichmann is the same successful and one of the most famous operations of israeli intelligence. on may 11, 1960, the nazi war criminal responsible for committing genocide against the jewish people, the mossad kidnapped in buenos aires, argentina, where eifman fled from persecution, and in less than two weeks, the german was brought before a court in israel, where he was sentenced to death . visa, the main difference between our special service, namely its employees, and other similar agencies in because ours always understood why they were doing it sabotage point liquidations all this was part of saving our people its security since the second world war israel spent more for other intelligence in the world of liquidations since the advent of massad no criminal or terrorist could
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feel safe no matter where he was the long arm of israeli agents and the so-called license to kill made it clear that retribution would come so as not to send his army somewhere every two weeks israel uses its intelligence capabilities for very precise and targeted operations, here the prevailing point of view is that it is better to destroy a specific object, eliminate a specific terrorist, and this will save us from a big war after it was nicknamed the massacres in buchis in ukraine also talked about the creation of an organization like the mossad, answering the questions of journalists earlier , the president of ukraine
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volodymyr zelenskyy stated, quote, that lists are being formed. our people of all kinds that we see we are starting to collect this information we will look for all these people so if someone dares to commit crimes that are not human to avoid retribution for this is unlikely to be possible for security, it is necessary to pay for her absence, they do not take us to pay, but the enemies, protect
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yours, our choice, the fight is ours, anger has become a payment, this is our war for freedom, glory to the special operations forces of the armed forces of ukraine, i protect my ukraine, the blue sky is morning the silence of the field, i protect the culture, tradition, the cossack land, i protect the borders of my country, i protect what is important, life, family, mother, father, brothers , wife, i protect my ukraine, love, we are
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the ones who are building a new, strong, free and independent i defend ukraine, i defend, i defend, i defend kateryna osadchai's project to search for the missing, find their own, every monday at 9:15 p.m., my son and brother are illegally detained by the occupiers. don't worry , i will be home soon, and it will soon last more than 9 months. home see new search stories again
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every monday in marathon the only news at 9:15 p.m. russophobia is constantly used by russian propaganda, it is a kind of brand that they put on everyone who disagrees with politics or plans of the kremlin. of course, this word was used many times by kremlin propagandists against ukrainians, and even before the start of the russian-ukrainian war of 14-22 years or more, rosaphobia became one of the accusations with which russia tried and is trying to justify the war against ukraine, so what is this such a beast is about suphobia, or is it only ukrainians who are yerusafovs, and are russians really so enraged by the fact that someone can be afraid of them, we should talk about it with our guests today in the studio, and this is anton i heard
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this is an international political scientist, co-founder of the united ukraine and vitaly lunyov analytical center , clinical professor of psychology , member of the ukrainian academy of sciences, researcher at the kostyuk institute of psychology of the national academy of pedagogical sciences of ukraine. e-e addressed why will you understand now that as a political scientist you often surely come across this term in russian propaganda i think that you monitor what they say there it is the meaning that puts into this term russophobia a-a these propagandists er-e the kremlin regime through its propagandists what is the meaning of this term everything is very simple the meaning is also very simple they form the internal support of the authoritarian regime and they formed this support for
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even more than 20 years. that is, this is the main thesis on which the terrorist regime in this country was based. er, to get support for the mood among the population, because let's not forget that more than 70% of the population of that country support those military actions, er , they started against 55% from the 14th year, but now it's 55, but in general, it anyway, the majority. moreover, at 55%, western think tanks say more, that’s why there is a question here, the truth is somewhere in the middle, but in any case, the majority supports aggressive actions, the majority is a so-so image of sofa big people, a sofa
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big nation. -e is just a mechanism and the technology of concentration of power, restraint of power in that paradigm, in that social contract that the authoritarian regime imposed on the population. that is, the propaganda aspect of russophobia is literally everyone who is not with us, so absolutely true because if they really gave analytics, if they really gave analytics, then eh they forget that, for example, in 2007, the speech of the head of the kremlin began to impose measures on the distribution of spheres of influence in europe and in the euro-atlantic as a whole, that is, they do not say that they claim to change the international system security and they see it differently than other states living in this region see it, or for example, the consolidation of such a norm in the strategy of foreign policy or military doctrine since the early 90s , even when putin was not in power, about the fact that
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the post-soviet space is one of the most important threats to the security of the russian federation and the constant imposition of politics from the position of power, i.e. georgia, moldova , ukraine, uh, you saw how they created an eternal union with the jews, what imprints were against kazakhstan, economic, that is, they did not have any state, even the one that potentially they wanted to see as an ally, they never built allied relations from the top , so they communicated, communicated with the top. let's talk about this because we have a professor, mr. vitaly, the question for you is simply about the term phobia, you, as a professor of psychology, what is phobia
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in the psychological sense absolutely and how is it is formed on well what is it or can you say etymology yes or etymology more precisely what is phobia well you see phobia is uh-uh such an automated constantly acting fear connected uh-uh with uh-uh part of rational perception and irrational and with the unpredictability of the perspectives of what it can happen, but you already know about it if the phobia is already on a more social and political level. is it already becoming an element of discourse? we cannot now compare russophobia with phobias of other origins . that is, it would be uh. that is, it is only a play on words. moreover, i am discursive to a journalist, because what is what is used , excuse me, what interrupts what is used by russian propaganda as a brand, as i said it, in fact, this is a metaphor of such evil, but
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a metaphor, but you know, in every metaphor there is the realization of one or another desire and in truth, russia is partially satisfied that all this is happening because it is actually and this is the key because they got what they wanted but not to the extent they wanted because they always wanted to be afraid of them you know i always for example, i will give an example to the students, i remember in my childhood we had a neighbor who was still an afghani, and when he got drunk there, he would grab some kind of abraze or what they call it. i don't know what happened. he ran around the yard and threatened well, somehow he tried to convince everyone that he is a key figure on his own , that is, on the one hand, look at the discourse of russian politics. he was always connected
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with what, relatively speaking, america could start some kind of war there in the balkans or it was possible to drop atomic bombs, they can, but we can't, that is, why can't she me, and that's why in russia there is always such an ordinary russian guy, who is he, he is an expert and a political scientist, and he also feeds the whole of europe and everyone, so he is there for example, they still burn the stove with wood, but he is sure that the whole world depends on his personal gas to a much third place, and envy will envy and that is the problem of this discourse of russophobia , it is the problem that they wanted to be feared
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and respected, and here it turned out to be what they are afraid of but n- despised and precisely this is the conflict of the russian not that society at least of such a part that can think about something about reflection in relation to itself to its country because for example here the question is whether there is , for example, collective guilt i would say that here there is collective shame because what, for example, people are proud when there is an olympic team that wins somewhere or there or some boxer. that is, it is, so to speak , national pride for the achievement of only one person , so to speak, conventionally speaking, it is now everyone's shame for the actions of some small group of people and no more , we will definitely come back to this a little later, but for now , well, i would like to ask, anton, did you listen to what mr. vitaliy said, and you
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agree? your picture of the world, your vision of what russia is doing in international politics in relation to ukraine, it coincides with what vitaliy just described, frankly speaking, i am not a specialist in psychology, it is equivalent to evaluate the only thing i would add, er, well, with respect to my colleague, what is all well, if we analyze from a foreign policy point of view, russia had one big problem after the collapse of the soviet union, it was a lack of recognition, that is, what i said was that they tried to create a new security system in europe and create a region of influence of their own influence in the theory of international relations, this is called the formation of a pole forces, that is, there is a central state that, i'm sorry, manages all political and economic issues in the relevant region , then it has the status of a sphere of influence, so look at what happened after the collapse
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of the soviet union, they were left with a global status in the form of a nuclear arsenal, they were left with a global status in the form of a permanent member of the security council, and j7 expanded in our country at the expense of j8 ugh, that is, g7 + 1, that is , the russian federation, but the region was not given to them, that is, everyone in the west understood that the russians would have antagonistic attitudes towards e - the creation of the soviet union in some other form, and there was a constant struggle for this, and this is what psychologically hits the leader of the orcs the most - it is the fact that he was not recognized by this pole. so we recognized it. well, you yourself they were told they gave all uh-uh possible uh, if the taxi regalia statuses were not seen in the global agenda as a really global state and not as a regional state, they didn’t
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give it, absolutely no, it was terrible, they thought it meant passionately colonies, why did i remember putin’s speech in 2007 and what they said constantly that, as it were, in 1993 , the russian establishment was promised not a step to the east regarding the expansion of nato, that is, in their thinking, they even set the region of central eastern europe as their sphere of influence, and remember the ultimatum at the end of the xxi year, which putin set the border - these are the borders of nato until the year 1997, that is, we walk in them with our justice. the expansion of nato and european states took place during was actually provoked by russia and the current one. yes, but after the collapse of the soviet union, it was obvious to the western elites that they would go further because it was precisely the integration of this space into the proper security space that made it impossible
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precisely the aggressive actions on the part of the russian federation, because let's not forget the baltic states, as propaganda worked in the 90s against of these countries, poland, how many lives are there on russian television. we have seen against this country. i think that in ukraine now we see leaders just like that about uh, well, let's say a contemptuous attitude towards that's exactly what it is. look at italy, and among such patients, let's say that the neighbor you talked about, but it happens. they have such a--i really found if i say a clinical picture, what happens in their clinical picture , such an effect or phenomenon, why do they choose someone special well, if you don't sacrifice a special object well, bullying how that's it someone is more or less there, somewhere there, running from the side, but someone they purposefully kill, i don't know, they intimidate and so on, this exists, this
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exists, this exists at the level a of such intergroup interaction, which is er-er in society, which always has to justify in some way deficit in which it interrupts, in fact, it is a deficit of goods, er, it is a deficit of development - this is actually, well, you understand, society can be considered as a whole as an ordinary society , but when such a superstructure appears in this society as a-- the permanence of authoritarian power, it already appears if a new object that needs support for its existence well, there is also a need for some kind of energy. yes, of course , literally investment of hopes, expectations , hopes of people, e-e , justification . that everyone already
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knows about such a phenomenon as mytho-design. that is, that around what is happening there are some such distorted, distorted or excessively radicalized or excessively liberalized views of the idea, anything that supports the idea the existence and non-adherence of such a permanence of power. that is, it is a separate pathological psychopathological phenomenon, such as the permanence of power, which needs support and support, and there are always enemies here, there are always some such, well, you know, completely irrational explanations of why this is happening in our country why doesn't this happen ? in other words, this is something that needs absolutely um constant support and support, such an idea, in addition to what you understand, we
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a priori uh political elites of super states or other states that are conventionally speaking good and normal, but they have always flirted with russia all this time , that's why there are all the statements that we will not reach this border or we are something over there, well , it's just that, well, you all know the same thing, for a long time they made money on the idea of ​​regional security and uh and what is now your well, if not the positions, then at least the spheres collide a little because mr. anton, i just want to question whether it is true or not, we can now say that for a long time
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world governments world authorities let's say that the states were flirting with russia, it is obvious that they were flirting because the year 2008 russian aggression against georgia is a vivid example of that, but you also have to understand the context, if we talk about cynical things in politics, you have to understand what we are saying e-e elites work gradually and gradually expand the influence of the number one task for the western elites after the review of the soviet union it was obvious to establish control in the balkans and you see that almost all the states of the balkans today are members of nato, this is not just because there relevant geo-economic geo-political interests, security interests, we are just talking in the balkans, it is restless again, kosovo, serbia, i.e., transport hubs and so on, that is, uh, the main emphasis was placed on this, attention to russia was not taken into account, this is what you asked me. if they are members of the security council, we did not count as
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we wanted, as we saw it was necessary, and we decided that way, i understand, and this was the first experience when we did not count with russia unequivocally . so, why did i just mention the balkans, because according to russian thinking, aggression against georgia was an answer to the fact that he can, why why can't we, in the eighth year you knew the west , the independence of kosovo, that's what they tied to, that is, even if you recall one of the interviews with mr. saakashvili and he was asked what about you there was preparation for aggression there, that there was some kind of communication, and he then conditionally speaking there in the journalistic memoirs . let's say that he said such a thing so that the president would loosen up and told him that, well, it's nothing personal, it's our game in the west , so you get a little for the fact that they are actually kosovo
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admitted, that is, at the expense of these wars, they tried to show their influence, their disagreement, that is, if your region is our region, then my colleague is definitely right in the sense that in 2008, the west turned a blind eye to aggression against georgia from the point of view of international law georgia is a sovereign, independent state, an equal member of the un, the same participant in all international treaties and customary rights of waging war, and non-violation of the borders of any independent state is recorded in the un charter, which was adopted in 45 years ago, here you are attacking or ukraine or georgia, which is many times smaller than, let's say , the severity of the crimes , the same crime, but the parallel processes that took place in 2008, too. the document of the then president medvedev, then there was a period of time when the president
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vla remembers it, and that document concerned it was in the form of a draft concept, it was a document of the european security strategy, which was not formally supported by angela merkel, silva berlusconi and the then leader of the faction i what am i leading, but nato? yes, but nato is not only rome, berlin-paris, it is also ankara, nato, this is london, nato is yours, but this can talk about what exactly berlin-paris and er, rome did, became putin and the colleague is right and i am right, that is, there was a state that played with the truly russian mood, which i have already mentioned, and there was a semi-state that saw that the history and development of the respective regions must be built differently, and again we return to the realm of psychology behind all this almost from the very beginning, in fact, it almost stands, well, at least
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the last more than 20 years stands the same a person, i won’t even call her a person, mr. vitaly, what can you tell us as a psychologist about putin’s portrait, psychological , what kind of person is he, is he an ordinary person who was changed by the government, i don’t know, do you know how there was a movie, natural born killers, natural bon killers , who is this, do you understand? - which er-e conventionally speaking er-e even in such a context i still have to adhere to a certain er-e clinic of research ethics in the sense that we cannot scatter diagnoses because this is all also, you know, a way of mastering one's own anxiety and you know well, a little may be somewhat unprofessional at least on the other

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