[000:00:00;00] in vugledar, a small town again, not the city of soledar, which was captured by russia, a city of 10,000 inhabitants, or even the whole city of bakhmut, as in which 70,000 inhabitants lived before this russian spring became interested in it. are such cities that will give at least some long-term effects, not that operationally, but tactically , they are doomed to be a stage under these cities, and any tactical successes are possible there, doomed to be only a figment of the imagination of russian propagandists, well, by no means that we understand that all the strategic successes of the russians ended in march, they tried to continue them in 2022

, they tried to continue them in may , june, by attacking severodonetsk-lysychansk and severodonetsk and lysychansk, these are two cities that already in about 100,000 people in one and two places. this is the last thing that is more or less noticeable, let's say there not only to the russians and their propagandists, but also in the world. months, the russians have not had any success, and of course they brag about every ukrainian village, presenting it as a little not er , another clue in which i agree. people's firing positions they do not regret it, this is their military strategy for centuries, probably since the time of the horde, but

we understand the issue of technology is also extremely important here, we don't want to just count russian technology, we just want to understand in your opinion, mr. ivan, how long will it take the bradley infantry fighting vehicle and the american tanks to arrive, yes, because there are constant reports of additional launches , yes, they will, they will not, they may be in late spring, etc. we will receive everything as soon as possible, political questions and political discussions have ended for the time being regarding the very fact of the transfer of such weapons to us, regarding the number of such weapons, of course, there will still be a row about whether there are enough of them or not in order to protect them, it is enough to enter their own standards for the protection of their own countries. a great precedent is set by estonia when

it decided that today it is in ukraine that the defense of this european country, which is a member of nato, is being carried out on the fronts of ukraine. i hope that it will be listened to including partners, that is , i have no doubts that the decision has been made, the ice is broken, that the speed will only be parting ways, and our partners are not interested in delaying this now in 2023 process, when there were still some moments in the 22nd year, then a year after the russian aggression, these arguments are already exhausted, a year was enough to transfer all the information about the nature of russian imperialism and about what the future structure of the world will be, in which not all countries may have felt herself and not all the elites of european countries felt comfortable today, she understands that they can become part of the e-e coalition of winners, and accordingly, if they are

winners, they will have no problems with how to position myself in the future because 2023 will be a year of sincere and absolutely sincere military support for ukraine, so i thank you, i doubt that the use of the communication will go to the ukrainian fronts, stay in touch with us ivan varchenko, an expert on the security of the soldiers of the armed forces of ukraine in our studio oksana yurynets , people's deputy of the eighth convocation , head of the permanent delegation in the nato parliamentary assembly in the 18th and 19th years. of the united states, that is, where she was with a semi-secret mission, well, in any case, i will not ask all the details, but your feelings are the american elites, their willingness to finalize the story with the same abrams m1, yes. that is

, finalization does not mean, you know, the story about olaf scholz and german weapons. yes, when every month gullible journalists repeated german press-release statements, yes, but the scumbags continued to hide somewhere in the warehouses of the bundeswehr. everything will happen. look, everything will be fine. it's about defending ukraine. as i said in the expert studio, it's our business, it's the ukrainians' business . ukrainians learn quickly, we need to understand why we need this equipment, because we need to gain an advantage on the battlefield, and russia created almost has 100,000 e-e let's say so, um, the tank brigade, and that is, some armies that are not even of small countries have a smaller number of uh , military, so we understand why we need this equipment and quickly and why it has to happen very quickly, i just met yesterday

volodymyr klitschko with the new minister of defense i know that there is constant cooperation, coordination with ours is about the fact that we need to constantly give this help why because if i said at the beginning about those 100,000, it means that there was a strategy of a global war, then it is impossible that they can advance with your tanks, you know that there is absolutely no uh well, as they said about saving life or making it comfortable there, those modern tanks that you mention leopards are modern comfortable tanks and they are already surrendering even our enemies are aware of that that ukrainians quickly learn how to fly and move tanks. i personally know many tankers with whom we cooperate. well, of course, in terms of volunteer history, i am proud of those relatives and our friends who lead brigades who receive awards, and these are people who were preparing for your academy of ground forces and others educational institutions, that is, they are capable of such good conditions, where it is comfortable to work, and the crew should definitely do

it qualitatively, and why do we need it, because we have to have that advantage and let's say so and so what is quantitative, what is the enemy of having a qualitative advantage is what our partners can give us, yes, in the united states , for example , there are large exhibitions of food producers, parallel exhibitions of weapons and high-quality equipment are huge, powerful, where they are there in some states, they are allowed to conduct tests, and that is why it happens ukraine is right there, let's just say that ukraine is learning quickly and producing, and i hope that we will succeed in the development of our scientists , in particular, the lviv polytechnic startup school they will start working on the fact that ukraine will be strong and will have this advantage. but as of now, we immediately and immediately need what our neighbors have, and in fact it must be collected from different countries. as the head of the nato parliamentary delegation, i can tell you that there are separate countries who understand it very well and you mention them, these are the baltic countries

, these are the countries of poland. but there are those countries that give the go-ahead for it . for example, if in europe the key country is germany, which has it, who produced it, you know , someone was joking, you have to tell them to cross they didn't draw because we still win with crosses. that is, well, you know this one, in the background of all these processes that take place, there is so little. such a thing is very interesting from the point of view of the fact that each of us has to do our job if we have opportunities today to help the armed forces of ukraine in a certain way, to convey information, to collect, this is all, of course, about what you asked , do they understand from them, the war is far away, we would only how can we understand it when we see it , you know, they say not only to suffer from the war but seeing how someone suffers is also a certain test. and we, staying here and being here in the country in this war, must understand that we must act and use absolutely all opportunities. i know a lot of my friends who are now trying to knock in every country ah

to get to the point that they give us these weapons, you know when we say whether we need weapons, planes and tanks, so that they don't give us completely different humanitarian aid , medicines, food, everything else that we can do ourselves ukraine is a country that economically capable by processing the received grain and different varieties of wheat, all that we can grow on our land, which is now mercilessly destroyed, we can afford to feed half the world . they make the cities unfit for life in general and sometimes the life of every ukrainian soldier who has several higher educations and who now comes from different spheres and industries, it is important to preserve and here we have to think how we should support being in the rear deep rear conditionally safe in lviv there or in other cities how we should help in this and of course communicating with all colleagues with member countries or for example those

countries that can help us because there is a country that today we have what we need, for example, in jordan or, for example, it is in half of south korea. and it should be in ukraine, because our army needs it now in order to gain an advantage. thank you, ms. oksana, ivan varchenko, an expert on the security of fighters of the armed forces of ukraine is in touch with us, i would like to ask him how he sees the pace of supplying us with heavy armored vehicles, yes , we understand about the f16, we have already started with public and non-public debates, but we hoped that the story with the tanks would be resolved extremely quickly well, accordingly, we understand what can to stretch somewhat somewhat this process or maybe he, on the contrary, has every chance to speed up, mr. ivan eh , i relate the story that actually grows

there with its legs and roots in germany, which is the main eh right owner of leopard tanks eh of the second generation about which we are now talking about the main battle tank in europe and the most common tanks on the most high-quality machine tools that exist today in europe, and we are talking about germany germany, for various reasons, the first thing is that the society is not ready, you see all these sociologies, the german is -e sentiments of the german and the establishment regarding the support of ukraine . a significant part of them still stands for our party and the broad about 50% only support the active here very active support of ukraine and weapons 50%. on the contrary, they say that we are too much there is no need to hurry, russia still has little to show, that is, it is clear that the german political community needs to take into account these attitudes of german society, and the first thing concerns

the german political community. you see that such an interesting political game took place somewhere here. the opposition faction of the ussr and it was she who talked about the fact that immediately now and a lot and it is clear that there is something the government coalition led by olef scholz turned out to be in a disadvantageous position, which consists of social democrats in the green free democrats, it is clear that there are categorically pro-russian political forces or those political forces in which the ears of russians and garbage people stick out. accordingly, we understand that this government coalition, even when making decisions that they wanted well, they are ahead of their society, they realize that russia is now a threat to the civilized world, but they wanted to hang this victory on their flag as a uh, because they give tanks, because of that, these stories about that were born. let's take it with america

decision and let's give some more because of that they delayed the political discussions that took place in this society delayed the actual decision-making but i am very satisfied the decision is being reduced the decision made is absolutely correct and now only when the doors have opened a little we see that as of today about a hundred tanks are already ready we not only promise and are ready to provide various european countries, of course, they must be brought to mind, maybe some part can even be adapted to the ukrainian conditions of the requirements eh but it will be quite fast i don't think that it will drag on for years because the mature part of society that makes decisions understands that it cannot be dragged on for years . i am absolutely sure that it will not be about a hundred tanks, well, they promised a little more than in january, we have about 200 tanks promised to us, of which hundreds are modernized t-72s that have been collected in european countries, but now we understand that thousands of armored vehicles , including bradleys, will be added to about 200 tanks, of

which a hundred will be european or more will be added american abrams tanks, of which they have already said that there will be 30, maybe 40, maybe more. the main thing is that this first swallow flew further , they will fly much faster, these owners and i am sure that we will form several tank strike groups, i will not say that it will be a brigade there er or will some other groups , but we will have the opportunity to significantly activate the offensive potential of our targets. so, thank you, ivan, for your service and for this wonderful analysis on the live air of the espresso tv channel. worked for us, but i would like to remind our viewers that oksana yurynets, people's deputy of the eighth convocation, head of the permanent delegation in the nato parliamentary assembly in 18-19

, is currently in our studio. i congratulate you glory to ukraine greetings glory to the heroes well ain zvain step forward step back scholz and aviation dear igor, what is happening in the discussion with aviation, we really haven't received the second leopards yet and here it turns out that no-no-no says scholz under no circumstances we cannot, so to speak, distinguish what is happening in those german heads and whether it will really be possible to somehow speed up the process of sending the second leopards , because we understand that this story was deliberately dragged out for several months, they went around in a closed circle telling let the americans be the first to give and let the british be the first to give and the british say we will give but we will give

a few and so on. blood yes that is, well, we understand what kind of battles are currently taking place in the east of our country. so, to igor, the germans, leopard 2 and the german air force, the situation in principle does not seem so sad, yes, with german military support , in fact, regarding the leopard 2, it’s just resolved now, eh, i think there there will be no delay, it will be necessary, it will be necessary, it will be necessary to train the ukrainian tankers , they will come to work on them, yes, and nothing else, there will be no special delays, from the first, second, tracks to other countries, so the permission was given a long time ago at the same time with the permission for stands from germany on the german proist and i hope that most of the people would be very outraged that he would not be supplying leopards, he has all the chances to put teleopards in front of

what is called ahead in germany yes , what will you shoot in germany? there will be enough countries that there are many countries, i am spain , the netherlands, the other countries that want the czechs, the slovaks , they want to put the tarka, and i hope that they will put it on time. it's all how he spoke clearly. he spoke first, we will deliver, but not first, because what is called forward, fathers , that is, hell for americans, we did not have your account, and actually, as americans, they and the americans agreed that in fact it is simultaneously they will do so at the same time they did at the same time they announced the supply of tanks now from the usa, too , we are waiting, uh, we are also waiting for the teopechennye deliveries that they promised that there is no end to the planes here, in general , the germans’ position is absolutely if anyone will be they will deliver the plane, first of all, it’s the americans, because

they are the ones who are producing the most effective and effective ones, yes, i still don’t know the names of the military . like a pain about the ukrainian coalition , which, accordingly, is called another card in the hand . he will calm down his colleagues systematically, that when the position of the leopards was announced, there was an uproar from the opponents, that this is something strange, who says that it is not necessary for us to enter ukraine, and god forbid that we ourselves are a little confused here now, or something like that bad mature blah-blah-blah, those are the same. how would otkroynyy putinists, this is a revolution, they have 10 years of alternatives, everything is accurate, they just

say that in general, the type of putin's russia, in principle, is the rule. well, they are, but this is marginal. in general, the marginals are more disturbing to the party, there is probably such a version. yes, such extreme pacifism, in general, is extremely cowardly, that’s what god forbid we are here at all, there they are. you will remember what was said in the second world war, and in such and such a hysteria, the left and even the radicals are pacifists. some people from soltsa's party became democrats. how frankly fed up to go possoryotr. and yes, it's possible just like that. not that they are available, that's just cowardly, not only having lost an elementary one, i don't know , honor, courage, some kind of type, for example the former minister of defense, she is a true lady, he doesn’t trust integrity in general, but she very clearly did not want anything , well, he really tolerated all the requests to supply weapons. well, she is not some kind of putin’s klyvrenka or agent, and she is just like that

here, yes, in this capacity, you know a very pacifist thank you, thank you, mr. igor, stay in touch with us, it arrived, it arrived, literally fresh on the usual, interesting and important news, you need to read the twitter of the minister of defense of poland, mariusz blaszczak, in a timely manner, as they say already announced the creation of a coalition of partner countries that can provide ukraine with modern armored weapons on my initiative. well, i am now acting as the twitter of this mariusz blaszczak. on my initiative, we held negotiations among the countries that have leopard 2a4 tanks in order to jointly create a coalition of donors of modern armored weapons for ukraine mariusz blazhchak by the way, he did not specify which country it is about, although the leopard-2a4 is in service with many european countries

. he sat against the background of the flags talking about this tank history of spain, canada, sweden and turkey ms. oksana what do you think about the pace of readiness and in principle can we now consider poland one of the locomotives, so to speak, of certain processes on the european continent will be the co-chair of the friendship group according to mykola knychechki, we always said that ukraine used to treat poland so carelessly, but it is an important country from the point of view of a neighbor who is very aware of the threat to itself when estonia hands over everything it has. do you understand that even with a tank on our territory, pirates will not succeed , and this is now important for ukraine, so i am sure that such a coalition is another opportunity and a leadership position, and i absolutely support poland, because who else but our neighbors who will understand very well all these

the dangers that many accepted in the first days of the war and understand and know, and from the direct testimony of people, i do not agree with your expert on the gender claim, i can tell you that i know many women who have decisions in the european parliament and in the nato parliamentary assembly, and who are very resolute from the point of view of how and what to do quickly, like today, hanna gubko and many of my other colleagues are lobbying on various fronts now returning from london, that is , they are doing a lot of work from the point of view of strengthening the defense capabilities of our country, why are they important to us again, these weapons are important from the point of view because they are already ready and we need them to get to ukraine as quickly as possible, but i also want to emphasize the following that we will never know either the exact amount or by what means they are moving. even when our military receives it, it is exclusively closed information and only the military has it, and i can say that i wish everyone that no one has this information, it is not important information for

those who are in the rear and who are not military. but i can tell you to say next what is it that we know about the number only when it is already on the battlefield, everything else that concerns ideas and plans and numbers, and this is not all the information that every consumer of the information space can get today, because it is correct and it is from security point of view for of the military and for those people who take a direct part, there is a public story that is voiced and it is good because there are turning points, you will remember how a certain winger said with together with we remember that yes yes today some others already had another this year already statement, we understand that the fracture in the brains of those people who had such an attitude of appeasement in the peacemaking of the enemy absolutely understood today that moscow is the one with whom we must fight and, er, it is this federation today that is the aggressor against ukraine, er, russia is not

a state that has definitely become different states the prison of peoples must fall apart, therefore, in this coordinate system, it is necessary to understand that as of today, countries that want to defend themselves are countries that are close neighbors to ukraine, eh. will ride in them, i think they definitely do not understand that they would never want this theater of war to be on their territory, and today in ukraine we need to help because i already said at the beginning 100,000 for the number of tanks even low-quality and uncomfortable should prevail, at least a qualitative indicator from the point of view of what should be in ukraine. ukraine is a peaceful country that never prepared for any war, that cultivated its lands, there were many entrepreneurs , they studied, they learned languages, and as of today, this generation of young people has taken up arms

to protect this state, the land, and have future dreams of being in a democratic state , that's why there is a certain system of how we will be helped, will be helped when we are constantly a-a in this direction, each in his own way in the field on your front to receive these victories thank you thank you ms. oksano keep in touch with us igor eidman sociologist researcher of putinism who is in berlin igor i know that you understand very well the processes taking place now in the kremlin well, what woke you up? medvedev, the former president, so to speak, is now the deputy secretary of the russian security council and has promised the whole world now, to quote this putin snip, that if the third world war begins, it will not be

on tanks and not even on fighter jets then already you definitely understand everything at once in any incomprehensible situation putin and medvedev promise to erase everything into nuclear ash , what is going on in them heads, well, how about medvedev, here in the telegram channel of his ego, not only by the way, medvedev also has such a speaker from the house wet and they selflessly, too, a man, softly speaking, kadyrov. that's what they're called synchronously, they've been singing in three voices for the last few days. that's how this story just started with tanks, with the second coming and weapons . the conscious action of the russians is characteristic of those who ask in this way to scare the smell. that is, this is the mountain of these boys, yes , the boys are burning in italy. they know that’s why he sings precisely for the western audience, not even for the russian audience, because i now live in germany, read the german press, and see that

they are being followed. journalists public opinion according to the same medved what he writes there from his threat means this situation is sacrosanctly trivial yes that is a new demand for a new round of nuclear blackmail. at the beginning of autumn, he goes unofficially, the main one is not putin, but the main one is these telegram channels of russian political children , why is that? the fact is that when it was on the official level, in fact, it was sent sharply to the russian authorities, and the chinese elder brother gave it to everyone. stop, he directly said that it is not permissible, uh, talk about a nuclear coin , more fantasize, i use this weapon to smear a nuclear threat there, that this is not absolutely not permissible, and after that, the russian authorities shut up about it they began to issue the same threats on an unofficial line, on the line, as i already said, the telegram channel, this statement of people

is also called the second and the second round, yes, the second round of power, as for medvedev himself, his ego, as if a person in the world, that is, this means that the world will be wiped out, but we can see that in all his posts he writes in a state of alcoholic intoxication, when this drunkenness is about the same, yes, that is, this is an absolutely frivolous, absolutely comedic character and oppressive. the russian authorities in the west do not fully understand how this marionette is not a renegade and will take seriously the play of the storm, but it is not so tempting . you will not be able to do something if at the beginning of the war. god forbid and a little more and in a friend they will start talking about nuclear weapons , what is being said now, the majority of statements are the official clip for precisely that russia is not ready for

a nuclear war and that these stories are just an element of talk about it blackmail, demand, will force a request to refuse support to ukraine, that will certainly not happen, thank you very much, ihor igor, mr. sociologist, researcher of putinism, who is currently in berlin , 17:58, important news, poland is negotiating the creation of a tank coalition for ukraine, minister of defense marius blaszczak said. we have literally a minute of time left, ms. oksana . do you think the event has already decided on its irrevocable support for ukraine? defense of statehood cannot be done in one day, it is a constant struggle , just like life, and therefore our task , if the government did not change, we see good news from the czech republic. yes, we understand that this is a permanent state of democracy

when the government changes, but every one, no matter who comes to power in which european country must understand that today ukraine defends their democracy, their freedom, and they have the right to a peaceful existence only thanks to what ukraine is fighting, thank you oksana yurynets , people's deputy of the eighth convocation, head of the permanent delegation in the nato parliamentary assembly in 18-19 well, an important refutation from the air force arrived , there were no statements of such a plan, the spokesman of the air force hnat said about the message in the western media regarding the expectation of a batch of 24 fighters in this way, the spokesman yuriy ignat reacted to messages that spread his statements regarding the transfer of 24 f-16 aircraft to ukraine, ignat denied the information , assured that he did not make relevant statements, so do not look for information where it is not necessary, in any unclear situation open