tv [untitled] January 28, 2023 7:30pm-8:01pm EET
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[000:00:00;00] or the lines of the inspector general of the united states and in ukrainian i will read them this is an important story read for our viewers and for you the united states is committed to supporting the ukrainian people during a war of aggression unleashed by russia, we must provide oversight of the use of funds and resources provided by american taxpayers to support ukraine is advised to confidentially report any suspicious activity related to a program or operations of the us department of defense to the us state department, including the us agency of global media and the us agency for international development on the respective state hotline is indicated below and there is even a qr-code of the inspector general of the state department of the united states , the united states department of defense
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, the american international intelligence agency, and here is what is written about corruption, sexual exploitation uh, fraud , waste of funds, abuse, improper management, human trafficking. i 'll tell you honestly, i see such a document, then i see such an offer. for the first time in my life, maybe it was in in other countries, even after many ten years of cooperation with radio freedom free europe , this ct organization exists at the expense of american taxpayers, i do not see such a proposal. i want to understand what it means in practice, and what should ukrainian citizens do when they read such proposals. i understood you correctly. that's what is written, it turns out to be corruption and other situations
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when they use this tool as needed or when there are some situations and in order for people to use honey or on themselves there a-a and this is a practice all over the world a-a so that this is not only a a and in ukraine or in others well, this is what i want to emphasize in this situation in ukraine because i know that many people are saying now a-a about what happened and corruption well, it's obvious that president zelensky is very serious about the fight against corruption, and it's very important, and i can say that with the help of the united states , which we give - and to ukraine, this is what a-and we don't see what uh-uh, what uh-uh we gave, or
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it concerns a-and i accept financing. eh, this will turn out to be humanitarian aid and eh, military aid, and eh, we don't see what it was to use eh, because eh , in addition to how it should be, and eh, we don't see what it is became a victim of corruption a-a so that uh-uh that the aid we gave uh-uh ukraine uses it yes yes we need to accept aid through the world bank and as they said find weeks in the white house and we see what is being done that's how it should be to be and we see that the military aid that we gave goes to the benefit of the ukrainian military and armed forces, and they are very
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they courageously use that help to protect their country, but we , in the usa, take it very seriously . when they say that there is corruption , when there are other problems. and we are ready to look at the situation and proceed further. well, i want to show you pure respect. i am a ukrainian citizen. i know that in some regional administration, some oblast, through some ministry, there is no надлежатьщей expenses е-е местов with the help of someone not wrong there on someone ruled that you got rich because of the help, i will report it to the inspector general's hotline .
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collects this information and er then looks at er indeed it exists something a-a er-er is not the one used the appointment that is necessary, what a-a they passed on this information well, again, i want to wait that er, we in the usa did not see and what that we a-a gave er direct assistance er commentary assistance military assistance a-a went no, where are you going, mr. andrean, first of all, i want to tell you that we noticed your absorption of its symbolism, thank you very much for that, secondly, regarding the plan of strategic supervision with the help of ukraine, how will it still be implemented
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, a certain mission will come to us from time to time, which will control help or how girl, well, it's unlikely to live. so why can't he get out of here? well , here 's our strategic plan. partners in ukraine and in ukraine to know what they need to successfully fight russian aggression and at the same time honest contact with our partners in the west is extremely important that we could help each other with cards and that we could hear often from our ukrainian partners what they need because the situation changes every day every week and a-a mmm and it is important
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to take into account these changes a-a when we think about how to move forward to help ukraine put an end to this war president biden is going to go to europe on the anniversary of this war and how do you see it? if this trip takes place, it will be a symbolic visit, or maybe there will be some important american publicizing initiatives in europe regarding further cooperation with the allies. well, there is no information about president biden’s trip yet. a-a in the white house er-e the secretary er-e told me yesterday that he has no information about it i know that er many of you are not a-a but we are all a-a in the guest apartment in the white house and others of the second government eh departments and we are planning how we will ottorgirovat on the anniversary of the war because it is 12 months - it is eh
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it is simple it is hard to believe that this war has already lasted so long a-a m-m and eh we will continue to show help and do everything possible to block russia's ability to continue its aggression against in ukraine, your colleague mrs. nuland, deputy secretary of state and one of the most experienced american diplomats , spoke at a congressional hearing, and she spoke in particular, and everyone noticed that there could be a relaxation of sanctions in the event that the russians leave the territory of russian ukraine, and i am interested these are just words and a motive in the polemic with the congressmen, is there any plan for what the easing of sanctions might look like in response to russia's readiness to stop aggression, she will clarify
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what she said she said what if russia will withdraw from ukraine if the russian army withdraws from ukraine and stops its aggression against ukraine then it is possible to look at the sanctions to savor the sanctions , but this does not mean that all the sanctions are simply not lifted a-a and when she when gossekkorya-nolland himself spoke eh in the congress they talked specifically about individual sanctions eh more than eh here are other sanctions a-a so, well, i also want to eh speak a little a počemu sanctions, uh, there are sanctions , сейчас установления, что изодействие и
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задействие челове ка и задействие страны и задействие компании и когда меняется это э-э эдэдэй тогда тогда можно смотреть э-э можно и-а will taste these sanctions or not also by the way, victoria nulan stated that the united states will most likely not have time america will provide ukraine with abrams tanks before the spring offensive . what is this connected with? andrea . maybe you can explain whether it is some kind of bureaucracy or unwillingness to transfer or logistics. - it's not just that one day we will a-and we can in one day er-er hand over these tanks , training is necessary. it is necessary to guarantee that a- er all the spare parts are er-a that it is possible to repair these tanks er-er when they are in ukraine and
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eh, and also here is the transfer so that it takes several months, but what the usa wants is that what is in ukraine, ukraine is in what is needed to fight aggression today tomorrow the day after tomorrow in the future and this means that if when will these tanks be in ukraine ? мы ожидаем мы мы so we assume that russia will start a-a offensive again and then they will help when a-a contour offensive e-e ukraine makes a contour offensive and helps ukraine a-a mmm e-e successfully takes a good position on the field battle and i also want to wait that er success on the battlefield does not depend on one
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a-a video weapons a-a and it is precisely because of this that it is important that er all the strange ones er meet as er in the so-called group rammstein it is important that we coordinate help and that there is a whole package a number of er aids that help the er ukrainian armed forces to fight so successfully with the russian er army and thank you very much ms. andre for taking the time to join our broadcast. andrea callan , the official representative of the us department of state , was with us on the link well, we move on to the next speaker and there were a finer , a political scientist, a head of a public organization , an open republic, in the end, congratulations, good evening. so, the first question, it applies to estonia in general, if they are against, it's such
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a small country, but such a large number aid, if you take into account the military budget, the number of e-e weapons that were provided in general, financial, financial, expression , how do you understand it ? do you understand that this is a political decision, or is estonia simply helping ukraine , understanding that it ensures its own security? well, on the one hand, we naturally feel solidarity with the birthplace of ukraine, because , first of all, estonia remembers very well its tragic history of occupation by the soviet union. the parties understand very well that the goals of the perestroika regime of putin's russian federation could also be the goal of the stories, and not to help the ukrainians, but for the estonian people, the majority of the estonian people are completely unthinkable. because they are very good, we represent ourselves very well. in a situation where we could also remain
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here one on one with these superior er superior military forces and that's why ah that's probably why we have er this feeling is enough - the feeling of solidarity is strong enough. but there is also a pragmatic consideration, of course, and that is, if we now have two ways, either ukraine will win, or europe will again be somewhere in the state of the 40s. i would not like it, therefore, we understand very well that the fate of the future of europe in the future is приключение мереме меня сельчая поколеный решается сейчас на бейфоле ех восточной украине by the way, interestingly , we will have to defend ourselves in the niva, we have to leave everything just in case, because in the armory in estonia
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, they think completely differently in our country the historical context is different from what he feels and how he perceives this situation in germany, first of all, we know russia a little better, and maybe it’s too optimistic, of course, we will sound confident, but in fact, despite the fact that ah germany in general, traditional historical a-a appeared beautifully very much interesting studied intel e-e there they all married each other and all fought yes that is, they are the leaders of the species a and accordingly and how would it be considered that the germans have a good expertise in russia but i'm afraid i'm afraid the baltic states and ukraine, by the way, too, it is much better, and the feeling that russia represents itself today is not why we are not deceiving as much as our german colleagues who read that russia can be simply flooded with money.
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was it built on this? 20, the policy in relation to putin's regime was built and somehow well, domestication will not work, it will not work , this is the democratic, anti-democratic , anti-humane regime that putin's regime represents, it will not work simply for good money, now we see it to what extent can it be generally assumed that estonia, after becoming a member of nato, can feel at least more or less safe in the current situation. it can be said that there is a feeling of security, or is there a feeling that nato can be a certain moment a blow struck , you know этот вопрос он всегда for us it is interesting because it is impossible to answer it definitively without finding ourselves in a situation when we will need this help when we will need a-a to use
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the fifth article of the mouth of avata in order to the rest of the strange members of the north planetary alliance came to help in the event of some direct military conflict with some conditional enemy . the current situation when, in the greater part of the civilized world, a united front supports ukraine and defends its rights to defense and is ready to supply weapons , this increases optimism, including the state bordering the russian federation, and in the fact that they will also come to our aid in the event that we face a serious threat , that is why the countries of scandinavia , finland, sweden, and sweden have decided to join nato, that is, this
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it was impossible to imagine myself on february 24, 2022, because the entire history of these countries after the war, after the second world war, is evidence that they just adhered to the policy of neutrality. of diplomatic relations when the ambassador of estonia in russia and the ambassador of russia in estonia practically no longer fulfill their duties, this is on the initiative of estonia . his vision of the future of the future level of the land eh yes in general, one of the goals was naturally to indicate such positions on the other side, and too much staff of the embassy was in tallinn and it was not
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the staff of the embassy in russian tallinn increased more than twice the staff of the estonian embassy in moscow . to a large number of citizens of russia living in estonia, but the point is that russia has drastically reduced a-a, including the consular services that we provide here, for example, russia does not allow russian citizens to leave russian citizenship in estonia now, come speak to russia, especially men, of course, come to russia, get all the documents there, find all the documents, go to the military enlistment office, go to the military enlistment office , go to russia it is resisted in every way by them a-a m-m on the background of these e-e steps on the background of this general a-a nervous situation a-a and
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absolutely well absolutely too these e including in general technical issues of bilateral relations and consular of the consular services provided here, an estonian citizen at some point told me that it seems quite late, in fact, we could have done earlier that we should reduce your embassy and bring the number of diplomats to parity but i like the position of lithuania here, which already after eh immediately after being told that there is no eh they cannot allow the presence of their ambassadors in moscow and they do not want to see that by chance the assistant ambassador of russia is in vilnius and they demote on their own initiative diploma status matic relations with the temporary representative, but history did the same thing in latvia well, it's good that it would be fine, so we literally still have a minute left. let's talk about the fact that estonia has expressed the initiative to close the baltic sea, after all, for russia, and of course in the
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kremlin absolutely do not accept such statements . do you think they will do it anyway? and what does this mean in reality ? estonian border guards will check russian ships. the decision is well according to international maritime law , and the right of the littoral country just to accept this decision. now we have simply expanded the zone of our control and we are going to expand
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it. свое видения and a-and perhaps such a solution will indeed be accepted in this case, all vessels following through the gulf of finland in the direction of russia or from russia, eh, moving a-and to the west, they will undergo additional control from the side of estonia, further, there are territorial waters, they they can bypass the territorial waters of tolstoy through the territorial waters of finland if the republic of finland is still a premium, such a solution means that 100% of all sea cargo will simply be subjected to additional subject to control in principle, thank you for participating in the broadcast, it was wonderful to watch you also against the background of two flags , it is always symbolic and pleasant yevhene kryshtafovych, political scientist, head of a public organization, the open republic of estonia was with us on the direct line lifan ect chubarov , the heads of the inter-forest tatar people she now he will be the interlocutor. congratulations, mr. refate , congratulations, good evening, so let's start
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with the fact that another country has joined the crimean platform, mr. refate, but in the conditions of war in your opinion, the crimean platform has strengthened. or, on the contrary, has it weakened because the context now concerns not only crimea , but also many regions of ukraine, which, unfortunately, are occupied by the russian federation ? in the crimean platform, the founding summit of which was held two years ago in 2021, there are now 60 countries . in response to your question, i want to say that the maximum united
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world community around the protection of ukraine and actually the protection of the entire human civilization, but at the same time to say that after february 24 , the significance of the crimean platform decreased. but what events will take place around the restoration of ukraine's sovereignty over the crimean peninsula, and it seems to me that the significance of the crimean platform is in the event that events in the world go in such a way that we will have to, let's say, look for an international support for crimean circles, and
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here the meaning of the crimean platform will be revealed. i say this to be clear that as a result of the russian-ukrainian war, tectonic changes will take place in world politics and new rules of guarantees will be established after the war e-e system and some e-e guarantee will be established regarding the security of the black sea and the mediterranean region, and of course this will all be connected with the future fate of crimea. in the west come to understand that without the deoccupation of crimea, the conflict simply will not be resolved, on the other hand, we understand that for putin and his entourage, the acquisition of crimea is a fundamental moment in this entire war, how
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will this story be resolved? i think that this is the position. seems to be consolidated by the western countries, at least by the leading western countries, that the format of the end of the russian-ukrainian war will take place according to the position of ukraine itself , and this position of our allies , partners, indicates that the first the next important thing will be our position, the position of the ukrainian state, i cannot allow myself that any of the ukrainian politicians can agree to such conditions, let's say the registration of the victory of the russian-ukrainian war, that it will be offered to give up
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a piece of paper, especially a peninsula like crimea i cannot allow this to happen to the ukrainian territory, no matter who is there. no matter what putin says, what importance do those who will come after putin give to crimea? and no matter who is there , he would talk about some scraps, all this is stupid . the main thing is that this is our ukrainian land and we we have to stand on this position and the world will not get anywhere because the light already agrees with this position in advance and almost the allocation of new packages of weapons in the last few days is already accompanied at some moments by the mention of the crimea, well , let's say that the long-range artillery to be received ukraine it can be applied and it can be used
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throughout the entire occupied territories of ukraine. this is crimea , these are the strategic clear ones, the crimean bridge, the black sea fleet, warships, but it is also the land of chongar, mariupol, rostock on the don. the russian occupiers there, after 11 months of war, there was hope that in the near future he could really be released, because before a full-scale invasion, in addition to belief, there was no reinforcement of reality. live in crimea as crimean tatars or ethnic ukrainians who remain loyal to the ukrainian state in those conditions of strict such strict control
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of persecutions and repressions a-a but eh-e now hope for such open protest actions or well some other actions that we would contribute to the rapprochement, or would we contribute without the liberation of crimea, well, it just doesn’t happen now, but we must not simply reject the behavior of a large number of citizens of ukraine in the occupied crimea . tatars and ethnic ukrainians in and these are hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people who are waiting for the return of ukraine to the restoration of ukrainian sovereignty, how will they behave when the armed forces of ukraine will already be standing on the chongar or will they join the
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yushu ni dzhanka? let's talk about it on the air right now, how close is the situation in crimea itself to the strengthening of such repressions that have been there for 9 years now, you can say how much the russian occupiers are now trying to intimidate the crimeans so that precisely because they are afraid or that they understand more and more in crimea no the reversibility of de-occupation well, look at the 24th , i'm just calling the extreme events that took place in the occupied crimea on january 24, uh , there were massive years of arrests and arrests in the houses of crimean tatars in the dzhankov district , the dzhankov district, it was already becoming so a military hub where weapons are stored, where the military is stationed, from there they are transported to the occupied districts
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