[000:00:00;00] sees carefully look at the photo of mykola roslov, he has light blond hair and green eyes, he looks like a 17-18-year-old boy , if anyone has seen him or knows where he might be, do not delay and call us on the hotline of the magnolia children's search service at the short number 116 000,000 calls from any mobile operator for free. i would also like to remind you that the search for eight-year-old margarita mityunina, who disappeared on october 5 on a weekday in the uncontrolled territory of the kherson region, has been going on for the fourth month. it so happened that the girl's parents they live separately, mother in vinnytsia region and father in kherson region, and before the war, margarita lived with her father or went to school there. her father took her for a vacation , then he took them back to school, and at the beginning of the war he took her back. so the war started, and my mother was in

she could not come to the vinnytsia region , as she had a newborn and a three-month-old baby. so the girl ended up in the occupied territory of the kherson region , and it was there that she met the war. she lived with her father in the boryslav district in the village of red mayak. there, margarita met a girl of the same age, and the mother of this girl, as it turned out, supported the russians and participated in the pseudo-referendum. and when the occupiers talked about fleeing from the right bank of the kherson region, the woman also decided to go to the crimea and took with her not only her child, but also margarita, the referendum, and the woman participated in the referendum when our armed forces began to approach this village, she decided to flee from this village and took her younger daughter and margarita with her very recently, we talked with margarita's mother and she told that the other day a girl who looks like her daughter was seen in the crimea, while all the details are being clarified , i want to note that there are never many details

, so i am appealing to the inhabitants of the peninsula who may see this program on social networks , remember the face of margarita mityunina , the girl looks like her 8 years old light blond hair if you know the fate of the girl if anyone has seen her or knows where she might be now call the short number 116 000 from any ukrainian mobile operator calls are free if there is no way to call, write to the chatbot of the child tracing service in telegram . greetings, dear viewers, on the air of the espresso tv channel, the studio program, the event , we will analyze the most important events, of course , we are talking about the key decision of the event on the allocation of heavy armored vehicles in ukraine, this is

a story not only about leopard tanks, or abrams this is a story about the fact that the west is ready to cross a certain security rubicon . james, a british political scientist, and mark fagin, a figure in the russian opposition in emigration, will analyze the situation now on our air james sher, senior researcher at the institute of security and defense, british political scientist, slava ukraine p. sher. welcome to the broadcast of the espresso tv channel . the key story is, of course, collective permission and collective agreement to supply us with western tanks. before that there was an extremely interesting , albeit hidden backstage discussion, whether to give tanks to ukraine or not. what do you think happened before the green tank

missile was given, you started with the words glory to ukraine so glory to the heroes. good day, i hope you are doing well. this is the first time i am giving an interview during a massive missile attack. it is so important to understand why this important decision was taken for so long. i would say there are three reasons , mainly german but partly american. the first is a huge psychological force . image that has passed through generations , namely, german tanks that fought in the soviet union against those who were considered russians, of course our viewers understand that to a large extent these german tanks fought against ukrainians and yet do not perceive it so deeply in

in my country, for example, there are people who continue to believe that the scots were once the english in europe. unfortunately, there are still many people who believe that ukraine was part of russia until recently, so there is a certain psychological barrier and moral stigma. germany was very thorough and in the end created a fear of all the military. angela merkel said that in the midst of hostilities there is no such thing as a military solution, this is all very convincingly related to this an idea that is also shared by part of the biden administration that all wars end with negotiations, so not all wars end in this way, especially when

it comes to a war with russia, and the third reason is that there are people in olaf scholz's party and in other parties who still do not can let go of the iron curtain, not believing in european security without russia, so all these largely psychological factors had to be overcome, and the main role in this was played by shame, because not only in ukraine, but in europe and the united states, it became obvious that this indecision causes huge damage to the reputation of germany. in your opinion, this has happened. are there any prospects for the restoration of the so-called minsk-istanbul negotiation format ? how do you see the prospects of the backstage negotiation process regarding the negotiation channels that you mentioned

? but if the russians have something serious to say, it is unlikely that they will do it through these channels, they will act discreetly through the appropriate people first through european representatives, and then through the americans, the russians use such channels to play their own games, and on their behalf, let's take turkey as an example, it is very important that it is a nato ally, and yet turkey is not a disinterested party in this conflict. it has its own interests that do not coincide with the interests of russia, turkey wants to preserve an integral and safe ukraine, but despite this, it has its own powerful interests that do not coincide with the national interests of ukraine, as they are interpreted in

kyiv and in many other places, so it does not you can have illusions about these forums and these mediators, i must say that ukraine must continue to be the main architect of its own victory , demonstrating to others every day that the greatest danger of escalation arises when the enemy's indecisive front is manifested, and ukraine must continue to convey this opinion to the west every day with our words and actions partners and friends in the west extremely clearly warned putin about the inadmissibility of using nuclear weapons and the inevitable consequences specifically for putin, on the other hand, we understand that the current trajectory points to various unconventional scenarios, which scenarios should we pay attention to now and what do you think , how can china react in the current situation , because china is also not happy with

putin's threats, in particular medvedev's mouth to use nuclear weapons you know the answer and you should ask this question every time he says anything everything he says about nuclear weapons on monday he will deny on wednesday lavrov says something else on thursday and on friday he will deny it exanthostein so we understand that all this communication on the part of russia is designed to confuse the interlocutor and establish where the lines of demarcation are between those who believe in this stupidity and who do not. as for china , i must repeat what i said about turkey, china is also not selfless as a player, china does not want russia to lose this war because the chinese understand that this will most likely lead

to the destabilization of russia itself. china needs russia to be a major power in the global system to help china appease the united states and therefore helped to lead them despite all the reservations and fears that the chinese might have about how the war started and in what way it will be waged in all public discussions and communications they very clearly place all responsibility for the war on nato, this does not change in any of their public statements, the chinese are playing in the same pear tree and the russians, where it is about disinformation of others and they succeed quite well, what is the value of their statements through some of their channels that it was they who restrained russia from using nuclear

weapons now such a statement is very beneficial for both russia and china, it firstly confirms the rumors that russia really intended to use nuclear weapons in this conflict although i am not the only person who does not see any evidence or grounds for this and secondly it is for the benefit of chinese interests to show the west that we are a mature, intelligent state that understands everything. in a broad perspective , you need good relations with us. if you want to rule russia, it seems that everything should have been clear to a child, but people continue take all this seriously, trusting influential chinese publications, to understand a lot of this, you need to understand chinese, fortunately, i have colleagues who understand it , so i emphasize that it is necessary to pay much

less attention to this kind of public statements like this, dear james. in general , we understand what the present moment wants from the world and from ukraine putin, and in addition to the continuation of the war and the seizure of our territories, and the killing of our civilians, which happens in particular on a daily basis, a year ago, we remember that putin completely an unprecedented senseless ultimatum, an ultimatum of the west, in particular, the euro-atlantic community, which was rejected for obvious reasons, now there is an understanding of what is happening in the kremlin so that they would like and is there an understanding of what resources they currently have at their disposal, so far we have seen that general gerasimov, the chief of the russian general staff, has been given back all his powers, and this means that the chief the general staff is not only a well-known theoretician, so to speak - it is

a person who can give orders indirectly, of course, that are appropriate from putin assign them to specific strategic units, but here the question is not only putin's er wishes. so here is the question of their capabilities and resources. i will repeat what i said in 2014. putin is determined to subjugate ukraine or destroy it. i have nothing to add except one more in 2014, and even earlier, he made it clear that he wanted a deep transformation of the broader security order in europe, and in general, when two draft treaties were presented to nato and the usa in december 2021, the reaction of the west was predictable and

universal. this is all absurd. we cannot to accept this, the russians knew that this would be the case, in these two documents they unabashedly outlined their ultimate goals to restructure nato in order to completely silence it and deprive it of any bones of heart and spirit , of course they did not believe that at that moment we would decide to accept it or be ready before any discussions, their vision was different, they said that after the war, after we destroy ukraine, then you will be ready to talk about it. so, the goals were formulated very clearly, and for russia, this war, as well as victory in it, is an indispensable prerequisite for change of a broad order in europe and to prevent what dmytro trenin called a sensitive blow, that is, a deep and painful blow to the west . this is how it all fits together. i don't see

any changes here, as for the question you ask about whether the russians have the resources to continue fighting, then for now that they manage to do it. yes, there are different answers to the question of how far they can go with what they are displaning and what else they could have, but as long as the situation is as it is, we must confront it, whatever the final questions are before us, for example, regarding crimea when it is about the attack and destruction of those assets, targets and objects in crimea that are used to wage war against ukraine, in the extreme, there should be no reservations here, another point is when it comes to those who have doubts about the feasibility of attacking crimea with the aim of its de facto rein corporation they are not part of ukraine, they are not afraid of the need

to eliminate all those threats to the assets of the objects and the weapons system that are used. poland, the lithuania-ukraine triangle, we understand that estonia , which in general took an unprecedented step by handing over all its trailer-mounted howitzers to ukraine, can join it, and now we understand that most of all , it can help us in a certain way within the lublin triangle. the so-called maybe small entente should first understand what it is about, we should not be distracted by the details of the architecture of the membership of the circle and carry geometric noise defect the fact is that

europe is divided between those countries and this it also applies to the usa, which does not have direct experience and direct knowledge of what it means to be part of the historical zone of influence of russia. they have never been occupied, and no matter how loyal and strong their feelings are, they understand all this quite abstractly. and there is another part of europe that shares deep historical experience not only with ukraine but also with russia intuitively understanding all its harmful influence and great britain is a very interesting exception because for a whole year between 1940 and 1941 when the blitzkrieg was launched and there were not just fears, but carefully developed plans for a german invasion of the british isles, the united kingdom remained a single soldier in the field without an ally, so such a deep psychological echo resonates and still has its influence

, the main point is that if the usa loses its spirit and abandons its of the current policy, then all of us , not only ukrainians, will be oh, how easy it is that the return of donald trump to the white house in 2024 can lead to this. a fatal blow and this is one of the reasons why i believe that joseph biden and his administration must understand in the national interest and in their own that we must do everything so that this war ends by the end of next year . who also did not want to enter into a great continental war on the european continent, but

gradually he was forced to support his friends from great britain and france and the russian empire, he de facto did not there was no choice, and here the situation is such that we understand that everything can lead to one thing after another , and accordingly, in the current situation , we should do the wisest thing for ukraine. the best contribution that ukraine should make is not to lose heart and continue to do what it is doing on the battlefield b7 in addition i think that some advisers of ukraine with good intentions, including military advisers in the west, need get rid of the habit of treating ukrainians and the ukrainian military as students, they are not

students . about how to fight it are unique in europe, so we should treat it with more respect and not be tempted to micromanage what the armed forces of ukraine are doing. i'm not saying that we should stop very close daily consultations in all public and less public forums we must continue because it is extremely important so we need to find the right balance because we must learn no less than teach nine lloyd george the british prime minister who bore the brunt of the first world war said at one time, an extremely important thing is moral rightness - this is extremely important, but the issue of resources is even more important

. that's the harsh truth. well, i would like to ask you at the event, you have already counted all your resources that will be ready to allocate to support us, in particular, it is about military resources , financial resources, and so on, and in general, what is the situation with russian resources that putin will be ready to use in the war against names, the outcome of the war is decided not by the ratio of gdp, but by the conversion of national attributes, both moral and material, into a useful force putin knows how to convert the attributes of russia into a useful force . he is so fixated on his goals in ukraine and against the west that he cannot refrain from saying that he may be ready

to destroy russia in order to achieve these goals. therefore , you should not underestimate the determination of this man and the people around him, but there will come a time when everything should not be done suddenly will give a crack russia is solid but not hardened therefore it can suddenly fall and when this happens god knows who and when will be able to gather it again because it will be the beginning of a completely different and deeply disturbing drama unfortunately we are nothing we can act on it because because of the military goals that russia has, because of its priorities and all its methodology, it has created a situation in which there are now only two options victory or defeat is not the west's business to worry about what will happen in russia after its defeat , it is the west's business to worry about

so that we do not lose this main thing. now , it is inherent in a collective event to be distracted by very interesting questions that are ultimately of secondary importance. in my opinion, we are at war, not only you, but we are also at war, so we have to focus on winning it for now and then let russia take care of itself as to how long they can continue to do what they are doing i don't know there are people more knowledgeable about the russian economy than i who also admit they don't really know but i suspect that when the changes

come, they will not be gradual, they will be sudden, very sharp and very unexpected. a senior researcher at the center for international security and defense, a well-known british sovietologist, and now our guest will be mark feigin, a member of the russian opposition in exile, a former member of the state duma , glory to ukraine, mark. congratulations, i greet all viewers of the express channel. well, we have been traveling for a long time. as if it was finalized , well, at least in its political and legal sense . yes, all that remained was to get this equipment in any case in russia , hysteria about this, mark, in your opinion, what happened the last straw in the case of the allocation of not only two leopards in the country, but also abrams, yes

. well, what would i like you to decipher now , so to speak, the voice is sick. these couple of hundred tanks, well, which are collected everywhere, and the understanding is even that this is only the beginning, further continuation, they themselves openly say that there is where, that there will be a thousand. well, and so on. the solution is the result of some kind of consensus, which primarily concerns the strategy, not the tools, and it was achieved precisely by the strategy, because you remember that throughout the entire history of the war, for 11 months , they talked about winning ukraine and not letting ukraine lose. yes, these are different things in principle, different ones, which lead to different consequences

, have different derivatives, and all of a sudden, how did it end? to lose its sovereignty and take it, namely to win and to win. this is multidimensional, this is what the concepts mean - this implies not only the actual exit to the borders of the year 91, but also the storage of the threat from imperial moscow to the neighbors. and this implies that the war must inevitably be the consequences will spill over to russia itself, because uh , put into such a war, it is certainly for putin's regime that this regime, both personal and collective, will have the most far-reaching consequences, and this understanding causes hysterical reaction among propaganda, they are the exponents of these moods. it is clear to them that it is possible that this is a public mission, but this is generally a consequence of the kremlin itself, from putin, because, to be honest, this

is the last statement. they sounded so that we must carry out a special operation , they were called this special operation, and it will deal with the threats that emanate from our historical predestination of our land, that is, you understand, that is, it is already about что всё что в поесе интересов москва кремля это от выпользовать от что быть от что быть исторический программы от производственный история и программы программы и программы. well, then, in finland, poland, the kingdom of poland must prepare. we understand because one country is already in nato and the second is in nato within five minutes. does this mean that there are no such intentions, there is no understanding of the picture of the world ? if you rewind even there

, i don’t know for five years, even for 10 years. well, five years later, such words were not heard, that is, the conversation is going on, and the lands of the northern part of the state, which moscow historically belongs to . in reality, there is no threat precisely from these historical people who consider themselves what they consider these winters to be, and this is definitely a sign of everything that the opponents of the kremlin ’s enemies were talking about in the west, that’s what they heard here. and now, what would be the concept of the victory of ukraine unconditionally? who would have said what they said would assume that after its defeat, moscow would have concerns for the next or 20-30, or even forty, to solve its internal problems by overcoming crises of power in turn, this will also fit into this one. in any case, there will be some terminal expiration of the period of interruption of putin's power

. what will happen to the system? what will happen to the economy? what will happen to the social sphere? beijing, without the possibility of appealing to some potential former alliance as a partner, as putin called it, that is, a minus request in everything , which means that russia does not have its own resources to withstand all these threats and cope with them independently , you know, and it would not be able to stand up to us the face of putin's russia to demonstrate the capabilities of the second army of the peace, this is the whole set, so that he would like the territory of the neighboring garden, if ukraine, because, well , everything broke down here, it was in ukraine that it broke down. well это значение, including throwing it back to russia , that moscow can't fix its internal problems on its own. let's now analyze how the current situation affects the situation inside russia itself. in particular, it's about what they're talking about in the regions. did putin manage

to convince his relatives, so to speak? those who died in ukraine are talking about the russian interventionists in that they were doing something useful for russia. well, and so on . of russia itself, but let's in principle classic, uh, i agree, let's see, we smoke her action, we see may day, in fact, uh, prigozhin's conflict. yes, how come new substances of power with its institutional parts, the general staff of the ministry of defense, uh, means for the administration of the president, if you they saw it and published it on youtube