[000:00:00;00] something, some director, who would be so interested in it, because well, i show it to my friends, they are all delighted. who are you idle and i think why is no one shooting this such a beautiful topic and literally two months came and dmytro called and said, wouldn't you like to make costumes for malanka yes that my work on the costumes for malanka probably started earlier because i was basically interested in this subject, because not everyone eh. well, there aren't many chances to see it in order to realize it. that's why you have to go specifically to the celebration in vashkivtsi every year. there is a really beautiful museum eh from a small costumes that you can always look at, but in general, such traditions are difficult to research, because they don’t exist all the time, this is a one-time event once a year where you can really see it live .

such broken bears that you are at the exhibition, for example, they are still preparing from there or we need to collect all this greenery, we dried it, it should have dried to such a special state from which you can already knit these bears, that is, all this the handiwork of the craftsmen in the village with whom we interacted and traveled, i was killed because these bears live there, they are killed only with other masks. that is, we did not invent anything here, we took a traditional costume from the chernivtsi region and made it, well, just with a different visual message, we changed it because they walk there in gas masks. and we have black and red bears, well, there is a film by dmytro suglydky samchuk, about which you mentioned the red malanka , a documentary, and it is already clear from it that these costumes need to be very hard to to make them is not halloween at all. although i was thinking about whether lightning can replace halloween. but i think that for several months people

will not be fed. tell me about possibly the most complicated costumes that you or you had to make for this costume or in principle that you researched how much they need time what should be done and what kind of costume is this well, it seems to me that, in general , these bears have the most complicated hay costumes, they are completely different, even in krasnogorsk itself , there are several types of them. they are in the form of more people say more similar to butterflies than to bears, there is just such a pile of hay. and in such a format as ours, they are not as difficult to manufacture as it seems to me for actors to wear, because it is quite heavy, and these hay costumes sometimes weigh up to 100 kg. that is, you you wear it on yourself and it's one thing when you wear it once a year and they are there in euphoria and it's a holiday, and it's another thing when you constantly wear it and take it off, so i can't say that something was difficult for us because well, we are so

excited - this is a topic that we like and that we like close to us, on the contrary, nothing is more difficult, it is more interesting to do it. but i think that it was quite difficult for an actor to play physically even in these straw suits, because it is quite difficult, simply for a person, it is necessary to have good physical training to play in this and we tried at least somehow to make it easier for them, that’s why they invented some other mounts, all kinds of things to make their task easier... in general. what do you think about malanka herself ... she can spread there to the whole of ukraine and somehow it can change but exist in all regions. is this a very local story after all which can become an attractive tourist destination over time, but still remain local and not spread to other territories, well, in my dreams, i would like to revive such traditions, because they actually existed in all regions, eh. just all these prohibitions and

well, a break in tradition in general, we have lost a lot of such holidays and traditions and customs that were previously mandatory, so i would like to believe that malanka will become one of those that will spread. and now i see that there is great interest in this among young people even this year in kyiv, there were a lot of malankars on the malanka, that is, we still have so many opportunities to see it done in other regions. i know that in odesa there are still many malankars in vinnytsia, and this tradition is slowly being adopted again by young people. it is very interesting because i have many friends, they call and ask for advice and ask how to better prepare, where were the masks, i see demand and interest in this . i think that it is possible not everywhere, of course, but in many regions we will be able to return it . well, i would like people to be more interested i'm sure that there are still old-timers who remember how

it happened and how it should have happened, so i think that this is quite a real film . the tape as an international audience reacts to seeing ukrainian traditions, and this is exactly what we will talk to the producer of this film . she told us about this reaction. and what exactly do foreigners want to see related to ukraine now, because in in fact, we have a lot of different gaps that we have to fill ourselves with the help of culture. well, fill these gaps in foreigners so that they do not consider us a country that is unknown there, what about countries with certain traditions, and here are these traditions, in particular, the paper

shows back, i do not agree cheers, if he's going to pay for everything, you'll do it, but i don't know, no one should know everything just once, if they're talking about this film, well, at least fellow film critics, then the first thing that stands out is this visually component analysis, such as the film extremely beautiful and not just beautiful there in such a primitive sense. it is interesting, beautiful, visually interesting . well, just every frame can be analyzed to see how cool it all is, except for this visual component, which is definitely attractive even at the level of the trailer, which panfir has chips to be able to highlight in this film such

a bright component that should attract the audience and somehow remain in history, if we talk about the visual component, then i want to thank the incredible men of the team for this our authors are dmytro solovkis stopchuk, screenwriter and director mykyta kuzmenko, director of photography and artist ivan mykhailovych roman, there are several who spent a lot of time developing every detail, went on expeditions, searched for and created this world that we could really believe in, the second strong point maybe i would even be the first to share it, this is the very story of panfir, no, we worked for a very long time and developed the script , because it tells about us , it tells about what we are like, and this is exactly what i want to convey in order for ukraine to had their own heroes, their own films, heroes on whom i would like to be somehow compared and that these non-heroes were understandable and interesting to the whole world , and this is what we received for the future, more valuable feedback, and when we show it now in

festivals around the world with the first that people come to us, they say, now we understand why the chinese fight so fiercely against an apparently superior enemy for their freedom, why is it so important to you that you have red lines that you do not allow anyone to cross, and the second is that how faithful is beautiful culture, everyday life, traditions, the nature of your country, and how you want to open it, and when we first started working on the film, uh , such a highlight for the film is the celebration of malanka, which is now part of the heritage of such a culture, also ukrainian. it is under the protection of international organizations and many ukrainians already had a tradition of going to bukovyna on vasyl and visiting the lightning, but many do not know this yet. i really hope that with our film , people will see this incredible holiday and will want to visit it, and this will also contribute to tourism and abroad because this is what i want to share and show. i wanted to ask specifically about the plot and about stereotypes and

what exist abroad. there is a story that ukrainians, if they were depicted in the past tense . remember the fargo series and the recent movie by guy ritchie. they threw out these scenes with ukrainian bandits, or they didn’t throw them out . and it’s not clear to the international audience, but in panfir, too, well, in fact, bandits , but not at all like fargo, not at all like stereotypical poplars, but still people who are engaged in contraband. what was the reaction of international foreign viewers to this? they have a certain stereotype that ukrainian bandits are generally some kind of territory. what about russians, what about the czech republic? i understand that they are equally owned by the bandit region. so how do bandits in bamfira differ from those stereotyped

bandits that could be seen in hollywood movies as well, well, our hero is not perceived as a bandit, but the hero is perceived precisely as a person who wants, and this is how we portrayed him, who wants to lead an honest way of life , and tries to apply everything for this efforts, but due to a coincidence of circumstances, due to the love of his family, he falls into a trap from which he can only get out of, well, by turning from the honest right of one path to such a-e path of smugglers, therefore , the audience had no questions about the hero, on the contrary, everyone understands that such a thing can happen and he as a man, as a father, er, as a son. he protects his family in all available ways , with methods in this regard. looked at the paper and maybe something has changed in them, well, there was more

of this, since we showed it to international audiences and they already show many ukrainian films, but maybe it’s not enough, there were many reviews that it was one of the first films that i wanted to see because of what was international territories in the press, there was a lot of talk about the film, there were many expectations , and now i definitely want to watch more ukrainian films, and regarding hacks, they asked why we have a war, why do we show the problems that we have on the territory, are they really like that or they really exist, how it happens is important for us well, problems exist, it is important to talk about them and it is important to fight them, and this is probably what distinguishes us is that we do not keep our problems silent, we look them straight in the face and deal with them, and that is why it is important to say that there was an image of a panfir bandit so that he was perceived that way, no, but in the border regions of every country , it is always like this, all together, certain

processes take place, so there was no such thing, what is it? if according to some national signs, what exactly is it ukrainians, no ukrainians, the film is perceived as the main character , as strong as he is, capable of making decisions, being responsible for his actions, taking responsibility for his family and risking everything for the sake of the future for his family, for his children, and this is exactly what is happening now with our society because that what we are doing now is the path we are taking, we understand that it is already our generation in a certain way if well, we were working now we were doing something and expected that now we would uh if we were to develop further already multiply what was happening but because of the war there are many processes destroyed and we understand that everything that is happening now is already what we are building for the future for our children, maybe we won't be able to if all of us see the results of our work as well as the heroes of panfir.

so that he and the child in his family have a bright future, well, that's right. i would like it to be so. because in our film industry, they have been talking about a national film hero for years, that we need a national film hero, we don't have one . more precisely, he is. i believe that the brightest among us and the hero today is vasyl holoborodko from the tv series of his people, because he is really such a folk hero who is like, er, how is it necessary , er, well, i would just like some more main characters of panfir whose name is panfir . i think he is absolutely capable of such heroes to become next to them became a hammer for other people maybe also will be a model for foreigners again eh who say we want to watch ukrainian cinema we want to learn about ukrainian culture very often talk about that and our cultural

diplomats also, so that we deal less with the topic of russian cinema , after all, we emphasize that we need to position ourselves and show ours . they want from us. i was recently at the american film academy xm evening held in london and there was such a table where , well, all the tops of the world industry were there . to be honest we don't know much about ukraine , so we expect to find out exactly what kind of country it is, what kind of people live there, what makes it special, what makes it different because, unfortunately, this is the train of the soviet union, where everyone was somehow one country and did not differ, that is, russia and other countries they

somehow they didn't have such a face for the world. well, for them, unfortunately, all countries were one. well, now it 's a discovery that the ukrainian language is a wonderful other language, that ukrainian culture, ukrainian songs , ukrainian heroes are our ukrainian heroes. songs and traditions, everyday life, that everything is different, that's why the west is to find out what ukraine is, what its history is, what defines us , what our heroes are, and there was a very notable case. artists, people, and it was a discovery for them that the song they sing every christmas was actually written by a ukrainian composer, that is, they want to know about what we have there mr. helicopter what did he know means they want to know

about us about our heroes about our history and what is not worth showing because this is again such a long topic about the fact that we have a lot of patriotic cinema which, well, many, especially from critics, consider it very bad, it shows weak heroes who constantly die and this should bring tears to our viewers and sympathize with how bad things are for everyone. and what does it show? maybe a certain number of ukrainians like it there, but if we show such films abroad, we will have a weak image, on the contrary, and many of these films are well what is called a sharovary, they are quite old-fashioned. well, in general, there is a certain discussion about which films should be perceived abroad . and these are not always companies that will be perceived by the domestic audience, so here is a question specifically for the producer. what should be shown abroad from what is filmed here in order

to form this kind of interesting image because , for example, i will say that people were outraged by the film of the tribe of boryslav sloboshpytskyi at the time and said that such films cannot be shown abroad because they disgrace ukraine that they show us from the bottom of the good side i do not agree with this and the success of the tribe and the fact that ukraine and the ukrainian film industry are known thanks to the work of myroslav slaboshpytskyi , there are a lot of film critics, i think that this is a big plus for ukrainians the film industry to create such a film that was seen by many people and received many awards around the world. as for which films, i do not divide films into patriotic or genre films or any other. there are films of good quality and films of high quality.

insufficient maybe if we talk about the fact that it does not travel well around the world, well, comedies usually do not travel well, because humor can really be very local, it is difficult to translate it, and well, it is possible, but not because it is bad, it should be shown simply because people from other countries countries, it is very often difficult to understand the humor of other countries, as for all other projects and films, etc. if it is a quality film, then it will travel and the world will see it. vampire is a film shot in ukraine by a ukrainian team on ukrainian territories without there is no foreign element and this is a film in which six countries participated in the production and financing was provided 10 that is, it would destroy this stereotype that doing something in a co-production is interesting only when there is an actor from europe or t- the filming took place partly in europe no, the main thing is history if we talk about patriotism, right now the whole world is amazed by what is happening in ukraine, how the armed forces of ukraine, how the ordinary

people of ukraine united and how they showed the whole world in this situation what to fight for one's country, what is it to fight for one's freedom and that is why the world is interesting in these stories, to see what kind of people these are, from whom no one expected this, who have been resisting for almost a year now, and as it seemed to the strongest army in the world, how do they manage not only to resist and also to win, to win back one's own, therefore, should we make films about the war , like the ukrainian war, they should be expected and there is a demand for this and many are being developed, do they have to be of good quality, of course, if they are of poor quality, then this topic is very well after there two or three not very good films. it will probably not be so interesting to watch on this topic, so it is a big responsibility on every author and every producer to make sure that those who work on this topic understand what they have, well, it should

be films in such a world-class quality. it is interesting to see uh and in general, if we talk about any movie, i think that if a movie is interesting in the world, what if it talks about ukraine and carries it? it is already patriotic because it conveys ukrainian well , any topic does not have patriotic themes, even if she is problematic, it is important and you see problems, i say once again to look them in the face, this is what makes us strong, what distinguishes us is that we do not silence them. because such movies are created specifically for big screens and not for laptops or computers, even if you do it, watching the movie later is legal uh , that's all i have, i traditionally wish you

a peaceful evening good night and see you on espresso, cinema, television, port, music, education, free people have a choice, choose what you want, on megogo, art in the country of war, a series of documentaries, each of which will tell about one of the ukrainian artists , artists who have not left abroad and continue their creative path in ukraine, well , such an impression that the story just entered now, but at some such moment , where everything just gathered in it, like a linear one, that's what happened there, what we remember then, there was a kind of drag, but now it's like it's all in one moment, and we see that well, that's all all it is repeated, however, as the place and meaning of the artist and his work change

. in a country at war, watch the new tv series from the doctfield studio and babylon 13 association art in a country at war from january 16 on weekdays from monday to friday at 11:10 a.m. on espresso join to the community with a ukrainian view of the world , become a sponsor of the espresso youtube channel. and this is access to exclusive content, personal thanks, pinned comments, special icons there, the possibility of personal communication with the espresso team, click sponsor and become part of the community with a ukrainian point of view. welcome to the espresso channel. today in our military program we will talk about the peculiarities of the militant russian ideology, in which direction it is currently transforming and what remains unchanged in the conversation with our specialists, we

will understand putin's fear of announcing another wave mobilizations are connected with the demonstrative installation of these anti-aircraft missile complexes pancyr on the roofs of buildings in moscow and the digging of trenches in the regions adjacent to ukraine about try the military-political leadership of russia to form a new artificial early reality for its population in order to ensure simplified access to human mobilization resources under the slogan of such a new holy war that the russian federation is supposed to wage. front my name is serhii zgurets, i am the director of the information consulting company defense express, which , together with press channels, strives to highlight the most relevant trends and

events in the field of our security and defense. now we are in touch with vasyl pavlov, military historian, head of the non-governmental organization, the center of militia history , as well as the head of the expert group on internal communications, the director and information policy in the field of defense and strategic communications of the ministry of defense of ukraine, mr. vasylyu. greetings to you on the espresso channel. good day thank you for the invitation, but now the russian military leadership is trying to reformat the so-called special military operation into a much broader concept , the concept of such a new, large and patriotic sacred or not sacred war is unclear, but what is behind these aspirations and changes and why is it so important for the russian military-political leadership , here in principle the answer is quite simple , the question is that the format of a special military operation did not allow the russian military the political leadership to form

a public opinion that would be ready to accept large losses and to accept, let's say, significant er-e maintenance of one's own there are some limitations in life and for this there would be just the required format is the great homeland of the holy war, which was used in russia, let's say that during the last two hundred and 250 years of history , we can also recall the format of the patriotic war of 1812, the format of the sacred or second patriotic war of 1914-1916, and directly this is what is more our viewers are familiar with the format of the great patriotic war of 1941-45 and just the actions that are taking place in the last days, they are very demonstrative and they resemble, one might

say, even the elements of the chronicle there in 1941 year, this is the digging of trenches there on the near or far approaches to moscow, such a chronicle is well known there, this is the installation of armor tanks now on the roofs of e-e in the center of moscow, it can be compared with these well-known newsreel shots when ares balloons were being launched from anti-aircraft guns in the center of moscow and all this was used, let's say, for the formation of mobilization consciousness in russian or soviet society. they are trying. in my opinion, they are trying to do the same thing . we are talking about the fact that russia is trying to ensure by increasing the ambitious resource, then the main resource is actually the youth who do not remember the soviet union there, nor do you remember the patriotic war

in what way now then what factors should this mechanism work now it must be used by the enemy leadership in order to ensure some changes in the russian society's perception of combat operations on the front line, in fact, these prices, these factors, they have already been used quite a lot since the moment when they began to form in russia pseudo-patriotic youth movements similar to the youth army, in fact, there were investments in them. this is the ideology of sacrifice , the ideology of heroism, which can be drawn from the hands of the great patriotic war and all the measures that they take, let's say in our country, it is customary to call it within the limits of victory, they they invest in their opinion quite organically , here literally a couple of days ago, uh, the whole internet uh, uh, reposted uh, uh, footage of

the reconstruction of the battle of kursk in one of the educational institutions of russia, where cardboard models there soviet and german tanks , the students dressed in german and soviet uniforms imitated the iconic element of the battle of kursk , the battle of prokhorovka . it is the direct participants of the second world war. in such a way, in such a concept, it is as if there was no war, but right here, on the contrary, they moved away from this slogan , on the contrary, a lot of russian propagandists russian public opinion leaders, on the contrary, demand to call a special military operation a war and

to use all the mechanisms of even the leadership of society in the management of consciousness, which in russia are borrowed from the times of the soviet union. well, can we talk about what now this concept of the great patriotic war is new , it is not formed primarily around putin himself and around the ministry of defense as the center of crystallization of this new ideology , it is precisely around the ministry of defense that i i agree with you here that the ministry is the ministry of defense no, there are no private military companies that should become the personification of this state power, and here we should mention one more state institution that is rarely mentioned in our country, ah, the russian military historical society, which is managed directly by putin , and let’s say so is his activity, and his activity is managed by volodymyr medinskyi, and

this institution is entrusted with huge budgets, and it is entrusted with the processing of russian society on at all e-e levels and it is precisely the formation of this mobilization resource in different social and age groups, but what we are seeing now will be e-e formed around the e-e image of the ministry of defense, here the question will be well, in my opinion, whose image are they will they try to use the image of zhukov’s victory at any cost despite the losses ? let's say so