[000:00:00;00] we saw hell, didn't we, the first igor talalay mariupol to leave wednesday 21:15 hello, today we will talk with igor kondratyuk tv producer tv host producer showman mr. igor i congratulate you good day it just doesn't matter here that in your previous interviews you talked about recent previous interviews' they said that at the moment you are not working anywhere, you are living on our savings, something has changed, nothing has changed at all, i, uh, i have a stand-by right now regarding the shooting of the second part of a part of the film with the funds of the state cinema, but there was only one knows when this second part will take place god bless my main characters actor

i work from this movie and my company received funds winning during i don't know when it can be now they planned to rewrite well we are rewriting uh they want doshkino that i sign the contract by the end of the 23rd year, i want to tell you and the meaning is that you will have the funds by the end of the 23rd year , and we have the second part to be filmed in the period of april er may that is already 24th year, uh, i don't know, i want to believe it but it's difficult. i think that in the next year, funds will be sought to film the second part from somewhere with the funds of foreign funds . well, i don't believe where the school is. that's why no one believes because all the money of this country goes

to the war for the staff war. they somehow they are swarming in my head, or until now i have never even been in show business, a producer, er, who wanted to be a producer and make a living from it , life forced me, after the winner of the project appeared, the chance to take care of young talented singers, singers and bands but it was me, i would say it by the barrel, the ukrainian word cannot be picked up, it is really by the barrel, that is, well, where should she be widowed and put it, they were live advertising for the next seasons of the project chance but the author is program television, that is, you actually performed some function that now perform products from the point of view of production, well, look, i have always been an independent producer of the channel. i have never been on the staff of any ukrainian channel for a single hour

, respectively, the bread was in the fact that i brought the idea of ​​the format or already on the cassette, the format and the channel bought or not bought, i stopped doing it a long time ago, i'll tell you honestly, i can cool down the television a little bit, maybe the last ideas were they weren't accepted that's for sure i know what i filmed we shot a couple of pilots they didn't pass well it was like that er, it was like that the error is statistical karaoke on the maidan worked a chance at one time it worked quite powerfully, i don’t have any big ideas about some breakthrough television project and it probably can’t be because, well, at the moment, my television group is myself after finishing karaoke on there are squares well, the group, of course, drank the champagne at the end and dispersed. it was interesting to see how you somehow leave this field, in fact, the same way you came in. i am interested in rewinding a little

and, er, you are from the kherson region , you studied in kyiv, you graduated from the physics department, and er, suddenly you find yourself in the world of television, well, not quite suddenly, of course, but you were engaged in science absolutely suddenly, there are no nuances. well, i have been at the university for the last two years together with my er, well, this is not my team, but we were a team it's called a studio of a shack, well, the physical faculty may have had days of physics, a new-born novosela who now lives in madrid saw her from kyiv for a long time from our club at the university and said, "let 's do evenings not only for the physical faculty, but also for the university, we them" they started doing it and it just so happened that we did this vechorilovych, some of these

evenings were called that sometimes back then. it was a very popular format . well, i studied from the 79th or the 84th year. this is , by the way, your question. why am i gradually withdrawing a little already ? tv is not for me a very relevant story uh and we did in the evening what where when and we once had a team from moscow from the tv club gods for all the youth of the soviet union come to us because they are intellectuals we met them we had such a creative evening the students asked them questions and they they liked it all, they became people like the front people of the company's body, the current game was good, come to us for filming . they then wrote a come to the club for the selection, i came as one of our team because they all traveled around the soviet union, there were some diversions to

zaporizhzhia. i went there alone. i was accepted into the club. why was i accepted at that time ? i don't understand. it's clear that i was i was quite an iorized guy, i was quite uh, hmm, active in the sense of my life position there , i was engaged in artistic activities, i played football , i studied well, i went to science, that is, it was somehow completely strange to me that i was selected , despite the fact that there were a lot of people at the casting which in my opinion had, well, physical books came, and i read one book, it was such a hobby in general , what where, when was it, and as entertainment, how was it absolutely a hobby? i kissed your questions, i finalized a little, maybe because i always liked to read books, well, i was an excellent student there . i don’t understand how it is possible to study for threes, but she has

to go to school, then you have to go there right away, uh, how i thought i was a tractor driver or anyone else, what's the point to learn is the point of wasting your pants or you learn to be nice, you don't learn at all, that's why for me it was somehow, well, logical from the point of view of the fact that well , some baggage of knowledge, we, uh, heads, then it was uh, and worldview well, i played with the same heads as i myself well, i was interested. many of them were much more erudite that i have friends like burda, like sasha, well, the ones you know for sure, and well, it was interesting , more interesting than well, i don't know than, by the way, i've never played there somewhere, you know in places it is a popular game, there the school plays and so on

you only have a television club somehow, well, it seemed to me that it was only there that you should play everywhere when and everything else is like that, that is, because i was an able-bodied guy, the company warms to me , the game company began to involve in the production of its other programs in addition to what where when which of "appeared at her place with the beginning of perestroika, they started filming all the episodes, but this is all the first tv format bought by the soviet union abroad, eh. and brenling is such and such a response. the soviet union was eh, in the 90th year, it began eh- and he started the branding ring probably already in in the 1991s, this is such a branch from when more than one team plays two teams against each other, we understand that it is possible for us to realize this now. but as of the 1990s , it is clear that the center was moscow after the 1990s. with such inertia and how i imagine it that you get into a big city in this center you get on

television where everything is raging because this is the heyday of television everything is cool and you are drawn in and you begin to acquire slightly different rhythms, so to speak, some other e- e characteristics of some features of skills or me i'm wrong about this, boom, you have this contrast when you returned to kyiv and felt oh , i've arrived, i know how it's done and now i'm here to do something cool . to some company and then over time they have a desire to start their own company. it didn't happen to me right away because i was engaged in science at the same time, that is , i didn't have this switch from the type of big tinsel, er, multi-million dollar moscow to kyiv, because i came from the plane and sat down in my laboratory, well, where i worked and did science, i had a plan

that i had to do. i didn’t have time, that is, in fact, i was there 24 hours a day, well, except for sleep, of course, i either flew to moscow or traveled by train, er, filmed a program and i was doing science here, well, from the point of view of staying, i didn’t care about living in moscow. i never wanted to live in moscow at all , because it seems to me that brains could only do business, everything else is bullshit . i live much better in ukraine. actually, that’s why i didn’t move here, although i was invited then the company played repeatedly, well, not at all, it was not at all, i don’t know how anyone was with you, i didn’t care. maybe because i dreamed of being an astronomer since childhood, and i understand that all the events take place in the sun, in the solar system, and not in some unfortunate moscow or to some unfortunate kiev, there in london, new york, on the drum in 1996, you defend your thesis, and somewhere then i understand that you are moving away from the idea of ​​doing science, after all, you are going to television, it was some

specific moment that changed, i clearly gave you understanding, i'm going there, don't look at the concrete uh, the point of transition from science to finally television was karaoke on the maidan, but it appeared in 1999, and i left science in 2000 , so as not to lie. 2000 was probably the second or third year in my employment book by the way, the record has disappeared there, by the way, now there are no more labor books, there are still some, they are simply already in electronic form, i want to, er, that is, i have scientific experience up to 17 or 18 years old. i am there in parallel, well, well, i am a fish and i think for a very long time, i did not want to completely tear up with science, besides, the scientific chief told me listen, don't be stupid to defend your dissertation. you've been working for 12 years, what do you have to defend? at least i defended my candidate's thesis. well, after that i realized that this is

probably the highest point of my, uh, trajectory in science, and i have to deal with it. to go because television attracted me, it gave me more money at the time, and then even more, and accordingly. well, i do n’t have time. i didn't want to spend the night any shorter all such a story led to the fact that i was engaged in television, and maybe because from the very beginning of my stay in the country, when i went there, i played 1 channel in 1985. karaoke on the maidan

, who graduated, i don't know , the postgraduate program of the television company plays there or the television called the voroshilov game academy and was already ready to work at that time. was the forerunner karaoke on the maidan, it was called toys for the street, and karaoke on the arabat was all in 2006 or the seventh, i don't remember the episodic 13 programs in the fall, which we filmed at the request of the tv center, because then he went to the tv center after he graduated to work at inter as a general producer and he was at inter and there he was one of the producers of the tv channel tv center in moscow ryashinova here he talked with kozlov's co-author and the producer and director of that program in moscow and well i said let's shoot it suddenly it will go well, for some reason it didn't work for them, you can say why, well, in principle, no, it didn't play a big role for me at that time

, because at that time i had karaoke on the maidan a chance well, everything was like that, not even it's very simple the history of the time eyes toys on the street toys for the street on the street for toys for the street toys for the street i understand what this format was, and then you refined it together with the russian teleproducer, also andriy kozlov, co-authors karaoke on the maidan , look, it's essentially the same, only a little bit increased because there, too, the difference from karaoke on the maidan was that it was advertising and a game, a game, and it was just a game format, but the first and second tour finals were from the very beginning and fundraising in the distribution hat there is there is then more chickens were, like, an attribute for singers, people want the military, of course, and chickens appeared

simply as, so to speak, well, if there are eggs, then there must be such a story somewhere. and we simply inflated this format in time . he appeared on inter for 30 minutes gave simply unreal indicators, and then when they came, they said, "blah, fly, how with such indicators, 30 minutes, give an hour . well, the indicators sat down, of course, because it's one thing to sit and watch for three minutes. our interview is all right. it's two hours. i want to have tea and go to the toilet. well, there was such a story, well, it was basically the same program, why am i asking like this because i am interested in how it happened in your head, in particular, because er, i see it as a process that can happen if you have certain traits if you have a certain inclination to that because what if put it on the timeline, that's the development there in general. ok, let it all happen in moscow. toys for the street . then you reformat it all as a co-author in karaoke on

the maidan. then try it on the arbat or not . then it's born out of a chance. it all turns into what you sit down. in the chair of the x-factor and ukraine has talent, i can see that you have a keen eye and you understand when something has been fired, because if you look at these projects over time, they are very relevant to the requests of the audience. it seems to me that when there was already a chance for karaoke on the maidan you want a chance to be addition to it, but it seemed to be exhausting itself, then came the era of these talent shows and it was relevant all over the world, and you also got into a trend with you. well, you feel this in yourself that you can, so to speak, see when it will shoot er, it’s s- you can write two completely different stories of my television, er, one story

can be called er, my happy incidents in television, and the second story can be called i am a brilliant television producer who knew what the audience needed at a certain time, and there will be two the absolutely true book would never have happened if the late yura minzyanov had not taken the tape that had been lying there for a year or a year and a half, and among all the tapes that were lying with various programs on the inter channel, he didn’t look at it, he didn’t say what it could possibly be and then we didn't know him, he somehow found me, i came and said, i watched your tape. let's try to do it. if he hadn't done it, because he hadn't done it before, tolik bondarenko, and everything wasn't done by someone else . was responsible for this

software product that's all the minzyanov factor is colossal but after that there was just karaoke on the maidan where they were killing that piatochok it was on time absolutely more than that instantly ours because there was no moscow either although i always had in the summer just a crowd of people on the old arbat when we filmed these toys there because it was different because we were different from everything that was on television before that, accordingly, everything that is different is interesting, then ukraine has talents appeared, it was different from everything you've seen although uh, i know for sure that we almost invented ukraine has a talent for submission of one girl well, they didn't make it , well, this kind of program, maybe there were 20 people, uh, that's why this story, well, it 's ambiguous, they can use it it is necessary to write a dry documentary, but it appeared, it went, it received a huge feedback from the audience, a rating, and then we went to the cities, there was also excitement and so on, but to say that if they had not taken it, then

i had not put this cassette in boxes, the day might not have happened or would have happened later a point entrance is also important because if karaoke on the maidan went now without a zero, you wouldn't understand it, you've already seen it, i'm not talking about a chance , it was a prime, it was prime in etalon , the first show, besides, it's nothing now. you know, if we are now talking with mogilevskaya, they started their puns. well, maybe they didn't come in. it was all evolutionary , so revolutionary, both for the audience and for the producers, while when it was a street show on the maidan, before that i was a specialist shot because i used a laptop alone to make e-e programs broadcasts for tomorrow well, yesterday i did a stupid thing called 5 + 1 er and well, it was a pre-study, but the program of broadcasts for tomorrow was here when there was still a fountain when there was no globe it was all evolution and to say that i knew when i needed to

well, no, what, when, when is it already going on? how many years has it been going on, uh, and it is still relevant, although it gives rating indicators. well, it is already some kind of uh, historical priority that has very cool indicators for a certain audience there, well, in in russia , it is not known exactly how outdated the transmission is probably because wikipedia has appeared a lot and you can already find any question and you don't need to be a sign to come up with an answer in a minute . you have been clearly articulating your position since 2014, since march, you have been condemning those ukrainians in ukraine who cooperated or are cooperating with russia, that is, there are no questions for you, you are constantly asked questions about work with marchenko in one project in one way or another in interviews

session, we see, you emphasize that it was exclusively a working relationship and it was all kinds of like that. maybe there is some kind of misunderstanding when you say that you don’t know if medvedchuk was financed by the owner, which i was never interested in. it’s a little strange, eh, because anyway when we talk about consciousness and where you are and what you are involved in , questions may arise . is that part of your life that is tangential in some way it is not important to russia. is it watching some kind of fascination with soviet films, or is it because i too, er , realized that i was brought up by post-soviet people , there is a lot of this in me, you have no aversion to the period of time when you worked in moscow

, when you cooperated with these people, even i can understand how it is the same andriy kozlov, with whom you do not communicate now. how do you feel in general ? no, it is not disgusting, it is just uh, a huge surprise on the other hand, this is a surprise, well, i used to be like that, yes. surprise at i fell in love during the times of perestroika, when i read a lot of literature that appeared then about the history of ukraine, about why there is no statehood and about everything related to the russian empire, the soviet union, and since then i understood the value of russia so that it concerns, that is, well, it is called i don’t care, well, i just cross them out. i am a person who, in the event that it is uncomfortable for me to work with someone, or someone lets me down, or i just cross them out because i don’t see the point of wasting my nerves on this, well, russia died for me in march of 14 when did she, uh, when did this guy appear, well, take it, beet who gave an interview to your colleagues from

one of the channels, whether it's new or ictv, someone there took in front of the military unit of ukraine where he was standing, that's the moment russia died for me and i don't need to motivate there by the president's speeches or something else, she is an enemy and will be an unequivocal enemy until the end of my life. why didn't the russian people even write me a word of support because they are russian people? well, because we don't understand them, well, how can you not understand the papuans there ? and guinea well, you don't understand why russian people believe that this could be because many of them probably have left-wing consciences crying, well, they even texted me , my phone number has not changed, so i don’t know how long the last one has been for 20 years. it was obvious i had to say it many times and then we now don't understand

because of happiness i say yes many times marchenko remarked to me that i don't speak ukrainian with the russians who came for the x-factor well if it happened to my head oksana, because i don't remember what mykhailo michel was to my father, well, money, we did our job. i don't know what happened. my husband convinced me to recruit and i don't know how. and my neighbor, well , he recruited several juries. there's a story when berdyansky from channel 1+1 invited me to sit on the jury. ukraine has talent, as it turned out, he bought me ot tkachenko, according to the contract, the price was met and i broadcast karaoke on the maidan. well, i don't see it as a contract , but that's what they told me. things, who financed it? he worked there in a different role, he invited me to be a member of the jury of ukraine has talents , said that he wanted me to be a member of the jury

of the x-factor and he planned that i would be a producer of the x-factor, and if i were a representative of the factor, maybe sedova it wouldn't have been there i don't know, they chose this four, which was later well, the first four was our neighbor yolka seryog and i, er, there were no russians in my chance, she was never in many projects , deleted on other channels, there were always russian stars, they were me we were not needed lonely because this story is not for me why was i not interested in who finances the x-factor and ukraine has talent because look if i was interested in some things related to the larger television business i would probably be somewhere uh in the producers of channels uh and they are not interested yet, but i am interested in what i was interested in. this is probably my limitation, but it has a limitation that i made myself. well , when vlad left inter, i said, let me apply to the producer of the inter channel. i am honest, i am not interested

, he says why me i say well, you'll have to put on these russian series, which you now put on by dozens and he says yes , i say no, i’m not interested, he says, do you understand, but in ukrainian it means money yes, that ’s how it was, there was a story that he says look at me, or buy this one or shoot the same amount yourself and i would be satisfied. well, there was no money, i say, i understand everything . well, that's why i'm going to produce my own, here are some two stepsisters of the x-factor, the x-factor, god, it's not my trap at all. i'm there as an invited member of the jury, eh. then i have a question a it would be better for you if another russian was sitting instead of me, eh, i wouldn't mind better because i was not i am not the target audience it is i understand that ukraine has talent even if he says that he is not that audience that ukraine has talent because you understood that it affects the sun or the best ukrainians or singers or dancers

or a writer. it somehow forms a worldview, whatever you are from the society in which you live. this market as a hotel is a great social program for any country where it goes . in the end, i will only have time to ask you, did you say the words? that russian culture kills in there was a moment when you clearly realized this, ana, look, this moment comes when the russians come to our land and kill despite the fact that they are a product of russian culture. did he not take any of the ukrainian artists to produce, or on the contrary, he signed some sort of combine contract with a singer who was a douche and that is why she became such an anti-ukrainian, er , she actually kills and she actually killed all the eyes of the century, and i read about it again in

years of perestroika, but we all hope for the best , we are all citizens. i am not talking about politicians, politicians should be different, politicians should understand the situation better. they talked when they ate. they just chatted about stalin . it was just something else. i understood that it was his specific seryozha, a neighbor of a complex moscow journalist. they could be for him. on such a scale, they put together all the puzzles, and it turns out that everyone thought so, and we were a little shocked, and that's where it started, and that's why i say that russian culture kills, well, what can i say, because it is imperial at the moment when it stops being them, it will definitely stop killing, thank you mr. igor, thank you most of all for this conversation, i did not have enough intelligent thoughts that my children will fight for me, protect

yours when the light goes out everywhere, they continue to fight for life every day of every day every second during the war and hospitals became fortresses of light where they heal only the body through fatigue and pain they continue to protect the light of hope their reward is our smiles and hugs their joy another saved person they know this every life they keep the light inside us grateful to the doctors who continue to save people despite the darkness outside the window thank you i

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