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[000:00:00;00] and i think that this is very good, so say the signs of a good sign, and now , let's wait, if putin even means to announce a package of nabilization. the loose position that is now in russia is being given away in ukraine a-a i think that even then the second wave of russians can say that and the third wave of russians can already say that and take it to heart . that is, here i am today. for now, what are these things? большого ото сказать э-э плескат российский э-э граджиии оны замечается на можей день i thank you very much for joining, thank you for your comments vakhtang my save georgian expert doctor of political science about е-е russification of the georgian government despite the fact that we understand that the georgian people
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support ukraine and this is a fact we remember the mass rallies that gathered in tbilisi, we know that georgian volunteers are fighting as part of the country's defense force against russian barbarians on the territory of our state a lot of support, we know how we met these russians who ran not because they did not want russia to fight for ukraine, they ran so that they would not die in this war, that is why their attitude was normal well, but we see that the ruling is not the ruling political elite except of the president of georgia, well, again, let's say partially, the president of georgia also doesn't, uh, i don't want to allow, let's say, the ombudsman to saakashvili, but there is such a problem and such a problem is all the more so because we understand that georgia is a country that borders russia and a country that has already experienced a war with the russian federation in 2008, the so-called eight-day war, which ended with negotiations and a certain peace when tanks came to tbilisi , and then we remember that parts of georgia were seized by the russian federation, and that's how this war ended but georgia is beautiful, the war is decreasing, the war may repeat itself, and here
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the question is that georgia, the official government of georgia, refuses to transfer this or that equipment to ukraine, although we will remember again that during yushchenko's presidency in 2008, georgia was given, for example, hail missiles that were used to shoot down russian planes and president yushchenko, together with the presidents of poland and lithuania , to valdava dankos and dankosumi then er forgot who will be the president of poland at that time. they flew to tbilisi and actually stood in the center of tbilisi then when russian tanks went to the trinity this was the story well, now the story is a bit different and mr. vakhtang told us about it now there will be a short pause after which we will return and continue our telethon and listen to people suffering from rheumatism but arthrosis is impossible to get used to, it doesn’t allow you to move. i tried everything. and at the pharmacy, i bought a yellow dolgit cream. it saves me from pain in rheumatism, reduces swelling
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you that my name is vasyl zima. on the live broadcast of the espresso tv channel, and now we are joining yevhen tsibulenko , professor of international law from estonia, to the conversation yevhen, i congratulate you. good day. glory to the heroes . i am glad to see you and hear. first of all, i would like to talk about the support of some kind tony is giving ukraine in this war, if you take it from the gdp of the country, then estonia should give the member the largest support of all the countries that , well, relative to the level of gdp , and among all the countries that support ukraine today, this is the last decision that estonia transfers all the howitzers to ukraine what does it have in its arsenal after that there was such a reaction from the russian federation was not very good, almost to the point that they put it, i answered only whether they sent sent in the studio or only limited themselves with some kind of invective. please tell me about estonia's proposal and whether estonia is affected by dissatisfaction and even anger on
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the part of the russian federation. ah, well, it 's true. ukraine actually provides the most aid in the world. if you count it as a percentage of gdp, it's more than 1%, and it's actually a single country. in the world, which provides more than 1% of aid to gdp , as regards both general aid and direct military aid, now ukrainian military aid in ukraine is already about half of estonia's defense budget. it is true that estonia provided all its howitzers but it should be noted here that a towed howitzer or a towed howitzer, that is, it is not a profiga at all, is necessarily an artillery installation, which estonia will not transfer to ukraine, that is , it is impossible to say that we will be completely without weapons, but as for the involved howitzers, this is actually the case
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it was really such a very powerful step. by the way, estonia helped ukraine at the very beginning, in the 14th year, in general, estonia and lifak were the first countries that provided air assistance, that is, if the viewers remember at the training stage of the war nobody provided air assistance in spain to ukraine. and although it was a rather symbolic step at the time, the latter handed over the pistols to the prime minister, but the matter was, in principle, exactly on the date of lazy assistance , if we look at this year that i already betrayed the large-scale invasion of tonya javeline at that time, estonia provided ukraine with the second aid in the world, even if we count it in absolute numbers militarily and the second after the united states - this is actually impressive because estonia's population is about a third of pre-war kyiv
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despite this, this help was very powerful and it was not only in terms of funds, but in terms of the fact that it was quite difficult to get permission to re-export these source lines because they usually had an end-user certificate and it was necessary to explain somehow by the united states to allow this rex export, but estonia coped with these, these sources were provided even before february 24, and the ukrainian military was met by russian tanks already, including, in particular, with the help of short javelin in relation to the diplomats there the situation is actually a bit more complicated. it was an initiative of estonia, that is, estonia decided that the number of diplomatic missions should be brought to parity. this is our case. the fact is that in almost all countries, estonia was not an exception to
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russian posts, they are more than the embassies of the respective countries. in moscow, spain decided that this should be finished and said that the russian embassy in estonia should be exactly the same size as the estonian embassy in moscow, that is, it should be uh-uh 8 diplomatic representatives and 15 others personnel and despite the fact that before that there were 21 diplomats and 23 other personnel, respectively, all these extra so-called diplomats are so-called because we all understand very well that the vast majority of the diplomatic corps of russia are agents of various russian special services. of course , they did not go home, but we must understand that this is not a high legal point of view, this is exactly when parity was introduced, there is a diplomatic representation and russia had to
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respond somehow, of course they did not like this step very much, but estonia directly said that if in response, you will start expelling our diplomats, we will also further strengthen yours. well, that's why they decided to simply lower the status of the embassy, ​​that is, they really recalled their ambassador, and instead of the ambassador , there will be a temporary and verified case. that is, now there will be no estonian ambassador in moscow , we were also supported by lapia in that step, and lithuania recalled the russian ambassador that before, that is, now no baltic country will have a russian ambassador, i will only be temporarily checked the case, respectively, where to go. go to the baltic countries in moscow, and in addition, our minister of law. how is urma trins doing, but he said that he will appeal to all his colleagues in
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the european union so that they do not also support this step, namely, bringing the number of diplomatic personnel to parity if other colleagues are also supported of course, it will be very good because the fewer russian special agents there are, the better it is for everyone to understand. and please tell me about russia's own uh- aggressive plans. it doesn't hide it, and nato also voices opinions about the fact that russia she does not want to limit herself to ukraine, if she managed to seize ukraine, of course she wants to restore the soviet union. well, lithuania , latvia , estonia, former republics of the soviet union, are also obviously an attractive target for putin. it is possible, and i am not talking about the actions that are currently being taken, about the actions and measures that are being taken now , because this is how i understand it, there are moments that
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it is not necessary to talk about on the air, but it is possible to talk about something, is there an understanding of that the most important thing is that russia can choose estonia as its target now. and you know what they say. we saw what happened in kyiv on the 24th of the 25th , when in two or three days, 100 km, the enemy invaded kyiv from the north, and actually on the 25th , the enemy was already standing near vyshhorod is right there, a few kilometers from the capital. so we simply understand that the same convoys can very quickly pass through the territory of estonia, a fairly small state, according to ukraine, and while nato is there, as they say, something will be done , putin will say, and i'm already here, that's it scary, but this is also a likely scenario, is this scenario being considered, and are there certain preparations to avoid such a development of events, all this is very well understood. estonia , even before the beginning of this still early large-scale invasion, had uh, 2% of gdp on the armed forces
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and by the way, for some time only four countries in nato fulfilled this norm of 2% of gdp. estonia was average, now it generally rises to three percent of gdp. that is, well, here, of course, both factors must be considered first. estonia is a member of nato, and nato supports estonia starting with in the 14th year, a contingent of allies was created here, that is, they are already here and it is now being settled on the basis of the british contingent, in addition, there are frenchmen, danes , animation, selected equipment, in addition, we have a military ideal at the vymari air base, and the rotation of anatolian fighters takes place. that is why i am constantly rescued , that is, there were actually planes from almost a nato country , that is, not only are they on duty here, but they are also working out the logistics, how do you fly here
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, how do you maintain everything, of course if there is it will be necessary, it will be possible to strengthen it very quickly, but estonia has never relied only on nato. it has its own army. well, of course, the country is small, so the army is also relatively small , but it is very well armed, it is very well trained, and they constantly conduct various exercises. in addition, in estonia has such an organization, keicelit, well, it can be called territorial defense, and by the way , when the territorial defense of ukraine was created , a lot was taken from the estonian concelit. well, unfortunately, not all, but still , some elements were used by the ukrainians.
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ani's volunteer structure is also very well trained , very highly motivated. of course, is it true that the russians will be able to reach talana in two days, he said well, if they even get there in two days, we will cut off all communications , they will all die in talana, they know about it and it is of course very strong, the russians were nervous, but it is true. the fact is that estonia has such a territory, not very tanks , well, quite similar. by the way, it is similar to the north of ukraine near kyiv, that is, the forests of the marshes are even more , that is, here if you work very actively on communications on the roads. mix the columns and the logistics of the occupiers here, it is possible to fight very successfully with relatively small forces , well, besides the latter, we are now purchasing
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for the exit to the armory. i gave it to ukraine, and this is a korean kade, now we are also purchasing highland, in fact, it has already been purchased. no, they have not arrived yet, but the americans have brought theirs so far. for now, the estonian one is being prepared, that is, the estancia can master this howitzer, it is a dream, it is a mega-horde, it is hai max's american until they arrive there already the estonian ones, now estonia has also ordered medium-range anti -ship missiles, anti-ship mines and other modern equipment, that is, the estonians are actively preparing and they believe in nato, that is, in the combination of the estonian rinat, in principle, the sun they understand that there is danger, but in principle they do not believe in the army in nato, so i think that a at this stage, the main thing is to support ukraine because we need to inflict a decisive
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defeat on russia and only then will we feel safe because if just this war in ukraine will end without a decisive defeat of russia, then of course it will just be such a small respite after a while the russians will go somewhere again, including possibly the lord's, so of course russia must be completely destroyed now and, well, in the best case, probably divided into several countries withdraw strong nuclear weapons, then it will only be possible to assume that the issue has been finally resolved, you know, but in your opinion, there is a consensus on this in nato, first of all in the european union. so yesterday, uh, the president, the fifth president of ukraine, uh, petro poroshenko said that he announced seven steps in order to introduce such sanctions against russia, specifically against putin and his entourage, which will make it impossible for russia to continue the aggressive war in ukraine, i
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will not go into this step, but i do i perfectly understand that there are still certain painful sanctions that could, well, significantly hit russia, because let's say, you know, there are sanctions from the other side, we will find out thanks to journalists , by the way, from the european union, to journalists who investigated what, say, from the netherlands , microcircuits are transferred through intermediary firms to to russia, then to iran , some components for their martyrs come from the american states, also through some third-hand intermediary firms, that is, all this continues to operate and helps the war, and certain schemes and certain businesses also continue to operate who also support the russian federation, therefore, in your opinion, is there a consensus regarding the future of russia, or will everything be decided on the battlefield, that is why now such active support of ukraine takes place, first of all, with technology ? axiom, it is only important that if earlier in
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the west they often said that we cannot let ukraine lose, now they already say that we cannot let ukraine lose and win on the territory that has changed a little and, of course, in different countries europe behaves a little differently, the usual baltic countries poland has always been one of the leaders, and in terms of supporting ukraine , they had the most powerful position, uh , some countries in europe have a more cautious position. they are openly playing on the side of things, well, that is, it is more known , that is, europe is not homogeneous, therefore, it cannot be completely generalized, but the fact that the opinion is changing is completely accurate, that is,
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in fact, if when was the first phase of the war from the 14th to the 22nd year well, really, a lot of people in europe did not understand what was happening at all, although even then, let alone the baltics and poland, and all of us scientists tried to explain what was happening, but very often they did not listen to us, and the baltic countries said what is it that you have some historical traumas , you should already draw this page of history and now western politicians, i'm already saying several even western prime ministers said that we should have listened to the baltic countries before because it is not much better to understand what is russia and what can be expected from it, well, this understanding has already come. well, it probably cannot be said that it is completely final, but the changes are drastic. well, we see it and the weapons, that is , they decided for a very long time, but still. well, if we say, at least about land weapons
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, almost everything is already what is possible, only aviation and e-missiles are left with the republic's range , we can say that ukraine will already have a full arsenal of western weapons. that is, it also shows that the situation has changed, and that most of the responsible politicians at least understand that russia must win, so i'll ask you a question right here, actually it will be the final one, but it's already very important, you talk about the provision of weapons and finances - it's very important, but it's also important that you can't hide that here are these corruption scandals that have arisen in ukraine yes, there were certain resignations, yes, there were voluntary resignations by certain people, but we understand that these are voluntary and forced resignations, and the leading european mass media wrote about it , and the american media in the united states
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also wrote about it, and the issue is not over here, and that is why i would like to ask if there is a risk that these corruption scandals can in one way or another affect the intensity and volume of the supply of weapons and financial aid to ukraine at this important moment. well, this is such a good question. well, the point is that i hope that after all in the west they understand that defeating the players is one issue . corruption is still a bit of a problem in ukraine. it's a different issue and you don't need to directly connect it. although , of course, it's less than the official level. of course, it all affects people on voters, therefore, in ukraine, of course, we must avoid such scandals , fight corruption more actively so that there are no such uh-huh cases, because of course it reduces motivation a little, but still, as i say, i hope that, after all, the responsible
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politicians understand that this is a slightly different question. and that you cannot let the archives win in any case. but i will say that it is definitely necessary to fight in ukraine . thank you very much for getting involved. and yevgen tsibulenko, a professor of international law from estonia, was in touch with us and now we have the material for your attention, and then we will be interested in discussing the corruption scandals of deputies' trips outside of ukraine . dmytro chakalkin will be with us, and we will also discuss historical topics today. it is the 105th anniversary of the battle of kruty, which took place in the 18th year , and we will talk about it with volodymyr vyatrovych , and now the personnel changes in naftogaz have finally received the supervisory board, this happened after a break of more than a year, when the previous meanwhile, the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office, together with detectives, continue to investigate the case of exorbitant bonuses
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at naftogaz, ex-chairman of the board andriy kobolev has already received more suspicion about the $10 million case and other students corruption scandals of the national company naftogaz , see our story above the anti-corruption court ultimately refused andrii kobolev the application of a preventive measure in the form of detention in relation to the ex-head of naftogaz, the senior insisted nabu detective and investigating judge oleg fedorov left the petition without satisfaction, rejecting the alternative of paying uah 365 million in bail. took up the investigation of exorbitant rewards in oil and gas
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, according to the law enforcement officers, they are nothing more than embezzlement of the state budget andriy kobolev, contrary to the law, in 2018 extracted almost 10 million dollars from naftogaz as a bonus. this is how the official assessed his merits in the case regarding the contract with russian gazprom when the ukrainian side won in the stockholm arbitration. as law enforcement officers established in 2017, kobolev had already written out a bonus for these extraordinary achievements . it amounted to 12.5 million hryvnias, but the head of the naku decided not to stop and rewarded himself again in the current equivalent , the amount of state losses for this episode alone is almost half a billion hryvnias since the 15th
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year, we tried to support this, in essence, the adventure and the way they dragged over naftogaz, it led to the oil sp the officials tried to hide the circumstances of the awarding and even blocked the investigation's access to the relevant documentation , and this is far from the first criminal case about embezzlement in oil and gas with the participation of andrii kobolev, last year in february, the investigators of the dbr conducted searches in the office of the joint-stock company ukrtransgaz, a number of private enterprises and the house of the former chairman of the board of nak naftogaz, according to the investigation, kobolev could be involved in the illegal removal of significant volumes of natural gas from state property for the benefit of fictitious companies. the investigators are conducting a pre-trial investigation regarding
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the illegal expropriation of 35 million meters of natural gas by officials of ukrtransgaz naftogaz of ukraine with complicity with other persons is being investigated by the investigation information regarding the legality of naftogaz of ukraine returning a debt to commercial structures that arose more than 20 years ago. at the end of 1999, the private company ukrenergozbut transferred 418 million cubic meters of fuel to the state ukrtransgaz for transportation to its consumers . ukrtransgaz did not fulfill its obligations and 305 million cubic meters of gas simply disappeared over 10 years . questions the return of the resource was not resolved until suddenly at the end of 2020 the commercial court of the city of kyiv approves a settlement agreement between
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four companies behind ukrenergozbut pjsc ukrtransgaz and two unknown companies, the financial company finnvest and profigaz, the latter became the owner of five million cubic meters of natural gas , investigative journalists established that these companies were fictitious small businesses and constantly changed their registration addresses and managers. at that time, the director of profigas , anna burova, did not even know that suddenly became the heir to an astronomical resource, the value of which at the current exchange rate is over uah 3 billion, the former head of naftogaz is now a suspect in the case of bonuses andriy kobolev was a direct participant in the gas scheme, it was he who ordered the loan of 305 million cubic meters of state-owned fuel to the subsidiary company ukrtransgaz for transfer to a fictitious company, which legalized the arrangement, and it was after this order
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that the peace agreement was activated by the management of naftogaz. profigaz, which was not a party to the case at all, the fraudsters literally resold fuel stolen from the state in a few months and threw their ends into the water, the law enforcement officers investigated the case for more than a year, until in february 2022 they visited koboliv with searches, and this case has not yet been brought to court ; instead, the investigation was interested in other abuses by ex-heads of naftogaz, among which astronomical bonuses in the amount of the current exchange rate of almost half a billion hryvnias , so after the announcement of the suspicion, kobolev was forced to return from abroad back to ukraine during a court session in the higher anti-corruption court, a former top official stated that the suspicion against him was fabricated
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the suspicion itself, in my opinion, contains very fragmentary parts, from the suspicion it is clear that the testimony of certain people was taken into account, those who were inconvenient were not taken into account, and it is clear to me how in principle this can happen , especially when we are talking about the newly created body of the special anti-corruption prosecutor's office , the refusal of the investigating judge vaks arrested andriy kobolev, the prosecution did not agree , so the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office will appeal the decision in the appeals chamber. will understand because, as you saw the effective part of the announcement, and at the same time, as i understand it, our plants were not taken into account, and i believe that our petitions and the notification of suspicion are based on sufficient evidence, and it is important for the party to file an appeal and whether kobolev will be able to prove his on the involvement
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this time, when the law enforcement officers finally admitted that by declaring a loss of billions every year , the management of naftogaz could withdraw the same billions to fictitious companies and for exorbitant rewards, the incriminated article 191 according to the criminal code, embezzlement or possession of property by abuse of official position provides imprisonment for a term of up to 12 years such stories sign naftogaz by the way it is very interesting to read comments on youtube we have a stream on youtube by the way i encourage you to subscribe, like and share our broadcasts on youtube our page on youtube espresso er espresso here you just read people sometimes you think well how can such a thing get into people's heads well but ok let's not talk about that let's talk about good things, by the way, good comments, comments, too, but i will remind you through subscribe, comment on us in general on social networks twitter, facebook, telegram
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