[000:00:00;00] with intensively meets works for the electorate and this is for everyone and he was at that time in sochi or somewhere else or abroad resting and it could be several months in a row, then he returned there a new ogareva held some meetings something else and again so and so there was a lot maybe then he got so lazy that he decided that he could not sit at this table at all. let some other people sit , technology allows that, but right now your question is different, is it possible that if he dies like this and some day putin will sit and the environment needs to say something, the real putin is not a cover, because for the environment, putin is a person who balances

the relationship between them all, for the environment, putin is a person who gave them the opportunity to earn money, these are his signatures in various state-owned companies and in this other for him a double for those around him is a person who can promote one of them and remove another. that is, he has real functions. putin himself has real functions . now imagine that he is dead. god forbid , what can putin's double do? he can't do all this, he's just a doll that it can happen if he exists at all, i'm just saying well, let's assume that he exists . it doesn't matter. he can go out and say some words. they don't need words. they need the decisions of a person whom they all trust and who has gone through certain steps with them. she is connected with i apologize to them with blood, and the double, whether or not it is recognized for

them, can absolutely calmly say, let's go to kolya patrusheva dima medvedev, we will put the naked ones out in the frost and bathe them in water. none of this political empathy, so i am convinced that as soon as putin dies, all putin's doppelgängers will disappear in 24 hours as if they never existed. well, in principle , lenin stalin's doppelgangers were always walking on red square . nicholas ii took pictures with tourists, but that didn't mean that anyone was going to do anything. they are the leaders of the state, and here, too, two of them make sense only when the person himself is alive and acting. hitler was also said to have had some doubles. well, who was interested in hitler's doubles at the time when hitler died, hitler was a carrier of political charisma for those around

you, information , what is the matter with making important decisions for the reich? and what is a double? it’s just some kind of monkey in a cap . under modern medicine, i think that with the time of modern medicine, as a person who has been in high positions in a country like russia for 90 years, this does not mean that if a person does not have some fatal diseases, or he can die as a result of a mutiny, he can live less but if you imagine that vladimir putin is, in principle, a person without such deadly diseases and his own entourage will not oppose him, i want you very well that he still has at least 14 years of prosecutors in russia. 14 years is how much. to win earlier, we hope for this, does not mean that putin will remain the president of russia. but we will have more opportunities for influence of some kind. no, i think that if we win, it will simply be

a matter of cementing the russian regime post north korean principle, they will say that their territories are occupied by the west, that the west, that ukraine, which is an instrument of the west, stole russian territories, russian donbas and crimea, which are dying under the rule of the nazis, that of course they would very much like to use nuclear weapons, but they are afraid of the answer and that they do not will be applied to the topic, but they are afraid of the west’s answer as to how the north korean regime exists. he is absolutely sure and the residents of north korea are absolutely sure that south korea is occupied by the americans in in principle, the north korean troops were in seoul and they were knocked out from there by the troops of south korea and the americans, and they were un troops , and

what has north korea been doing since 1950? americans that all koreans have united in a happy life under the leadership of comrade kimny and before that who we are arsen why do you think that russia can't look like this here i am very important victory in the war and if they lose maybe they will want to electing putin will not matter what they want there because the other candidates will not be a decision or what they want, but putin's entourage will no longer perceive him as a strong letter. putin may believe that if putin loses, they will all lose, they can believe that they will not be able to maintain power without him , besides, again, what is considered a victory for russia, we believe that it is not not accepted russia denazified ukraine where they militarized ukraine no longer poses a threat to

russia because just as you remember that on the eve of this special operation, the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelensky, announced that they were developing a nuclear bomb at a conference in munich, biolaboratories were created , which were special bacteria that, if they got into the nose of a russian citizen, they created a terrible disease that led to his fattening by 155 kilos, he had and now all these biolaboratories have been destroyed, and ukraine will never be able to produce nuclear weapons either. because during the stay of the glorious russian troops in chernobyl, they destroyed all possibilities , all samples of nuclear weapons, listen to the interview with sergeant ivan petrov hello, i personally destroyed the nuclear bomb that vladimir zelensky assembled from plastic and special american parts before our arrival at the chernobyl station, and

this is a victory, but there is a problem with the russian as a result of our victory, the lands are controlled by the nazis, the russian people will accumulate resources in order to liberate these territories. that's who, only vladimir vladimirovych, you and i can already conduct this for 60 minutes instead of kabiye popov, you see how it turns out to learn this for 30 seconds. that's it. brilliant , as always, mrs. vitalya, we don't have much time left at the end, but there is a very interesting topic for conversation. regarding the inheritance that our commander-in-chief received, they found out zaluzhne from a-a american of ukrainian origin, whose name is hryhoriy stepanets. and i know, by the way, that he is from vinnytsia. and this is my

compatriot. i am also from vinnytsia, and vitaliy they said that you know something and you know even this person personally, it’s true i don’t know this person personally, it’s a great pity that i found out about the existence of mr. stepanets already when mr. stepanets was dead and well, he was not alive, but he was just working on his will and friends of mr. hryhoriy stepanets they turned to me as a journalist because mr. hryhoriy himself and then after his death these friends and lawyers of his had questions of a purely logistical nature, as strange as it sounds . how do you want to bequeath money, large sums of money to the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, how do you do it, go to the press service, write a letter well, it is possible, but it is also a matter of trust, you want to talk to

people who will definitely be able to carry out this will , to know for sure who these are people who represent the interests let's just say that i was not an intermediary. i simply helped these people who carried out the last will of mr. grigoriy to find the contacts of those people and organizations to whom this specified inheritance was assigned. why exactly in this way did he decide not to help the ukrainian army, he did not have the means to record to help the ukrainian army, he simply trusted mr. valery zaluzhny, he made such a conclusion , valery zaluzhny was a person of his trust, and i think that he justified this trust. this is absolutely it's obvious, but by the way, many people are leveling the reputation of the land that he should have done

it, send it to the account. well, it is so, as if it were understandable, but he did it anyway and thereby confirmed his relations with valery, no one forced him to make it public the money, this money was sent, as far as i understood, the inheritance was to him, he was able to dispose of this money as he deemed necessary. i also believe that it is absolutely logical that something is considered necessary in this way. i think that his wishes and the wishes of mr. hryhoriy stepanets are with er coincided and it is very important because you know this is such an example of er virtue because mr. grigory he had already made great scientific progress in soviet science, he was a pitiful man at the age of four or five . it was in the year 38 he is 85 years old this year

it was, but he achieved great success in soviet science, but since he had honest political views that were not soviet , he was essentially deprived of the opportunity to work in his profession, he was forced to leave the soviet union and the united states, he proved his high qualification as a scientist and after that, he decided that here is a part of his inheritance in the last days of his life, and since i understand that he was very concerned about what was happening with ukraine, his last years were spent there on these trials i said ukrainian even in the last months, we imagined and imagine what a person would say there, they understand that she is leaving this world and sees what her native country is, that it is being torn apart , and she wants to do something for

the development of this country. of the ukrainian catholic university of luzh, and the ukrainian kyiv-mohyla academy also received funds . well, as an organization, as an organization, this also says that he thought about the development of such a modern modern ukrainian education, and that too it is absolutely logical for a scientist, because we understand very well that ukraine needs not only to protect but also to develop the army, science is the pillar for this country to develop, so my participation in this was minimal. i think that for me to apply simply they knew that i existed as a journalist in ukrainian, they could turn to any other ukrainian journalist. i am glad that there is trust in me as a journalist. but i believe that many of my colleagues also deserve trust.

complete set no, i'm just saying that i really have a reality - this was committed by mr. zaluznoy, mr. stepanets, not three, you know. you don't need to compare these real things with the journalistic function, we always. maybe you also donated , as it were. this is another story. if i believe that in this case a million should have been given to the commander-in-chief of the armed forces on a journalist, agree to these under these conditions. so i just think that everything happened fairly and i am very glad that just became a witness to this important story, this, you know, such a dialogue in absentia between people who, unfortunately, will never meet each other again because mr. grigoriy died, but these mr. grigoryi, mr. valeriy showed us , you know, such an example of how you can treat your homeland even when you you haven't lived in your homeland for many years because mr. hryhoriy stepanets left

the soviet union in 1989. yes, it's always been three decades and i always said that the homeland is possible. i'm not saying that he's from the 50s years lived in moscow, that is, in fact, he lived for a few years in your native vinnytsia for about 15 years minus the evacuation. yes, but you see, this was enough . this is enough to keep it in my heart . that's why i remember it many times. and how do people perceive their countries and countries in which they don't live and don't visit? it's in such a mental connection that there are always israeli jews. why are people there, american citizens with israeli and jewish roots? they go there to fight in the israeli defense army. they are in they live in america. it's okay there is no war, and this is a mental connection with grigory er stepanets, there was an obvious

mental connection with ukraine, which only intensified. when the trials began , peter, it just happens, oh, in this country, there are some problems , troubles are better. and i live here in the united states, well, it's better to forget about it no and i really hope that this is an example of such a modern attitude towards his native land as valery, dependent in your opinion . vitaliy manages to keep this reputation of his and er not er join in some scandals that happen all the time anyway within ukrainian politics, i think that because valeriy is hard-working and keeps his reputation because he is not a participant in political processes, news takes time to learn, you understand, a person

can express himself. i'm just saying, what should you do? that 's how it is. that's how a person maintains authority. you know that there is a command of the armed forces of ukraine supported by the minister of defense of ukraine at the time of this story with these corrupt officials. well, he supported this position, he believed that the minister of defense was not involved in this story, what was the situation when in france , the armed forces supported this law for increasing the responsibility of military personnel, which was opposed by a large part of society, but this great suttustani began to talk about it's not zaluzhne. he lost our trust because a person has every right to his position, and he doesn't have to be perfect. you know, he always strives for perfection from politics. by the way, this seems to me to be a moment that can be said about them. they want to be liked all the time, so if

as soon as they see that someone doesn't like something, they immediately run after this locomotive, which i don't like it, and i take me as soon as society is even possible, it's wrong, it can and changes its position with this position, changes the position of politicians and leadership, i already this is what he said at the beginning of our conversation when he spoke about general de gaulle, it is possible and this is the defense of unpopular decisions of a politician, such a person can be wrong. but the most important thing is that he defends his position as the one he presents society is just a hard-working person, not a politician, but i say again that when it comes to such statements about such and such, people see that he has his own point of view and that he does not adapt to them, and i really hope that he will be this example someday a political example, you understand because we underestimate how western politicians are. they very often go against their own society. here are two styles. by the way

, president macron is the federal chancellor of the federal chancellor. that took into account the public interest, only now everyone is asking how effective this legacy was for germany now, and president macron has already spoken out many times against the position of his own society, and you see now these huge strikes and all this , it then leads to compromises, but if the country's leader does not comes up with unpopular solutions, then this country is waiting for him, he is not a leader, this country is just waiting for an economic collapse sooner or later, because we understand that people always want simple solutions to complex issues, i want more pensions, more salary more vacation more apartment and i want to leave and who doesn't want who wants less but there are situations when the state

has to make some unpopular decisions against our wishes, and that's why it's possible that society listens to such politicians here, but we're not talking about the political role now and about the role of the team or the armed forces of ukraine. i believe that this is the right position and he is brilliant not to participate in political disputes, but to be a person with his own clear position. so we can approach the end this is our dialogue, mr. vitaliy, for an interesting conversation as always vitaliy portnikov it was saturday's political club and then ulyana panasyuk with news don't miss it join the community with a ukrainian view of the world become a sponsor of the youtube channel espresso and this is access to exclusive content

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a project for intelligent and caring people in the evening , naspresso greetings to all. this is traditional, this cake and sports and the football team today will tell you everything that happened during the week. the captain of the carpathians and a person who at one time even simply did not take a penalty because they agreed with the referee's decision . good day. yes. and i also add to our studio our expert, that is, the expert andrii malinovskyi andriy hello you hello everyone hello sashka er hello denisa we are very glad to see you in the studio we have already invited you several times but training meetings matches and today we will finally talk together about ukrainian football about everything that is happening now in our national sports, well, this week did such a thing. it was andriy pavelko who called the press conference and at this press conference we expected that there would be something interesting, that there would be such pressing questions, that we would find out who

the coach would be, as far as we learned, in principle this we learned, but 2.5 hours could have been spent a little more effectively on me, well, we learned that we learned that we learned nothing because velikaya mira and now well, the first thing to note is that, in principle , andriy pavelko communicates, for example, well , remember the same thing anatolia konko, he never collected such briefings, not even grigory surkis, in the same way, so personified ina, if he gave her some mini-interviews, then yes, very, very, firstly, he rarely did this , and secondly, he singled out journalists too, e- is there were their own and foreign journalists as well, and now sports journalists are largely divided, and with this they are killing sports journalism in particular . why, because now there is pool, which supported andrii pavelka, and there were those who did not support and those who did not support tracks at all, now pool has appeared for itself , that is, they came to show that they are like that and hyped first of all in front of their colleagues in front of themselves in front of the community so that almost everything is printed now, that is, even

if someone did not watch online or record the conference there, it is simply possible now to read that she rested there well, what interest still remains, in principle , to andriy pavelkh kherson now, and it has not been revealed because, well, even if we start with those, even about acute questions, acute questions should be asked exactly those journalists are acute about which almost everyone knows about that they are always in earshot of the same person kosti andriyuk, why didn't they let him in? oleksandr levins of helevinsky says i didn't let him in. so, who are you, you're the secretary, that is, we need to start with that, or he doesn't have such powers, don't let him in someone, that is, according to the leaders, except for the president, who are a bunch of sheep presidents, and if one of them could not allow you there , conditionally speaking, and he does not have such powers , that is why it all started with the fact that he says , i decided not to let in andriyuk, and such are kandaryuk this is also our oleg yashchuk, who is just fighting now, our correspondent, it is possible that volodymyr kraman kramar well, now and all the others

are now of such and such a height, just such a degree, and they cannot give to a large extent what was proven by this conference where the alleged nuclear weapons were collected well, in fact, there these followed i really disliked her. what did they start telling me about who should behave and who should ask what questions? why are these questions to oleg yashchuk? why is he turning on from the front? well , how could he have done it differently, he is now in donetsk region. by the way you introduced denys as a legend to lucy karpat, and he is a legend of donetsk football and also of shakhtar. he has been in the shakhtar donetsk system for a long time. he is even called the donetsk joaquin of the donetsk bats in his time. defends his daughter-in-law, he simply could not physically be at this briefing at this conference, which was created by the association of our ukrainian football, so he thanked me because, in fact, oleg and i talk to andriy pavelko, and i know for sure that he is very, very strong andriy

pavelko and the uaf, i mean support the ukrainian army , ukraine does everything and even more, and oleg yashchuk , he communicates with almost all football players, clubs, representatives and officials, and he says that such support as bidual, well, for now that no one can provide, i spoke with oleg the day before, he said that it is categorically forbidden for him to include it. it is just a military secret, even it is not possible for security purposes, and he also said that it is strange to look at these meetings, uh, to the people there, well, to his military comrades because he says we think that you here in the rear will unite and decide something for the benefit of ukrainian football, but in fact everyone is just solving some of their own tasks and looks it's just ugly right to them like mr. serhiy, he's with you so m.m. well, there is that's right, we have a problem. for example, the cup of ukraine. why isn't the carpathians held? i think they played for fun and would like to fight for victory. well, of course, but we understand now what the situation is in the country, that's why there are probably

some uh questions somewhere, and in the organization, first of all, that's why it's not so easy to hold it now. i agree, but about the national team. well, after all, they gave us such a message that serhii rebrov will be the coach of the national team , well , most likely for now. up to the 30th year well, after all, as the example of putin lukashenko shows, being at the helm of something for a long time is not healthy mmm well, of course, i completely agree with you that but uh, it's not for us to decide in the first place but we have to to talk about what in fact 100% should say so and well, there is probably some kind of agreement among themselves, that's why andriy decided so, and you are in france, there was a similar situation where they extended the desham until 20 what was the 6th year and on the

26th the person who won the world cup brought the final of the world cup and they were told no, it was necessary on the 24th, the same was the final of the championship in europe, he was also from portugal, that's why, in fact, he has six majors there, all of them really successful. the fact is that journalists had to ask this question here too, and it doesn't look very sharp , but it is absolutely relevant. what about sports and a lot of changes, just like a trojan horse, they use their own mass media, and there are a lot of them now because they mostly use the internet. it is our football format that remains, all the others are either on youtube or, again, telegram channels now, eh. well, plus sites, that’s how the situation is now, and i think that sports journalism is once again entering a different plane , because in that form, we now have

well, again, well, they came to show off a lot now, and uh, the criticism was somehow not justified, and again, everything . oh, wow, then he replies in a personalized way , so it looks somehow. everyone, that is, one to the other, and as for serhii, i am a rib, the situation is that we have been waiting for serhii rebrov for the second year, the whole country is waiting for serhii rebrov why, because they decided this way, again , it was necessary to insert a question to the manager, and why rebrova in particular what is there in serhii rebrova, what is not, for example , yuriy vernydub, relatively speaking , now everyone will understand that this is the composition of the ukrainian national team. with such a composition, it is now necessary to get to all the forums, it was necessary to get to the world championship, now it is simply extremely necessary to go to the european championship because, uh, we play, uh, the backbone of the team plays in the upl and all the players are the leaders, zinchenko is now nvp and the leader of the english championship, mykolenko is constantly in

the leading roles, got good grades, mudryk immediately made his chelsea debut with a bright yes to the people there, ruslan malinovskyi roman yaremchuk andriy yarmolenko, the captain of the national team, is also an extravaganza, even in the emirates. nevertheless, we understand now that the defense is powerful there, and matvienko and the colorful popov, we understand that the goalkeepers are so hard-working, she is now the star generation, the change of generations has almost happened and now such a line-up is now calling for denys the bat, andriy tlumak has been inserted by london as a coach and we will go to the european championship, we will not read anyone. and so we have genres in march and we understand that we are waiting for rebrov, who will not lead until march most likely, he will not be kicked out of the club , his team will be prepared by the coaching staff . who is this spanish coaching staff? spanish vector who and why that 's how to change our football