[000:00:00;00] rather, for such an aircraft, in principle, it is not a problem, but uh, i would also like to explain that the matter is not only about whether or not it is about making a deep landing. and, for example , figures of aerobatics, because this complex is much wider that it is both individual and preparation for the combat use of this aircraft and their registration in a group and again the integration of this aviation capability into general tactics. that is, it is quite a wide complex, but it does not mean that one must do one after the other, that is, these things can be done by these in parallel, as well as the preparation of the technical staff and the maintenance of these planes, the preparation of the base itself for their operation

, the preparation of the control group of the planes, and in the end if we well, i think it is quite optimistic to talk about six months , because now there is no solution for this, but what is the added value of this? why do we do such things as the speed is high, precisely because of the importance of the aviation component, well , literally, one simple example , if heimers. km/h, that is, in order to, for example, move the himers installation, that is, from a combat position from which it can make a strike at 80 km , and it takes, for example, an hour, yes , the speed of the aircraft is 60 km, and at 16 even the minimum is

600 km/h, that is 10 grams more if it will be above the speed of sound, then it can be three times higher, that is, a shot at the same range . that is, this is extremely well, this is a completely different level of maneuver that is given to our military in a group. i want to draw a conclusion from what you said. may god give them to us. yes , in the end, and any weapon that we need in order to overcome the enemy, defeat him and throw him back to where he should be in his territory. thank you, mr. oleksiy, for participating in the program today. thank you for your professional answers. it was oleksiy melnyk, co- director of foreign policy and international security programs, coordinator of international

projects of the center. introduce my new guest with whom i will talk about the economy, the economic aspect of the war, i want to remind you to vote on youtube, those who watch on youtube vote and put likes, dislikes or comment like this , we already have 152 votes on youtube, unfortunately on this computer i don't i can tell you how many people are voting for whom, if my editor , my charming editor, tells me, i will tell you , but it doesn't matter, the main thing is that you can see it. well, i'm ready to introduce my next guest, ivan uz chief consultant of the national institute of strategic studies, candidate of economic sciences, mr. ivan slava to ukraine i congratulate you and thank you for joining i congratulate you, mr. yuryu, i congratulate all the tv viewers mr. ivan well , what’s wrong with you?

i don't want to call this anniversary in quotes an anniversary, but well, what are you going to do ? and this full-scale invasion, there were so many sanctions packages, nine tenths is being prepared. ivan as a professional economist tell please, the sanctions will be in effect for the next year. what can i say? i will say right away that the russian economy in 2021 was the 11th economy in the world, so it was not so easy to knock it down, however, there are 9 sanctions, nine packages of sanctions that we we have now, they remind me of the chinese strategy of a thousand small incisions, that is, it is unlikely that one of them will lead to the fact that the economy of the russian federation will collapse at the same time as it accumulates. and we see that with each package of sanctions, the pressure on russia becomes more and more

bigger bigger here is now the point where we are at the end of the first month of the current year, i will remind you that in a given week there will be another sanctions regarding russian oil products, at the end of december there were sanctions against oil for the russian federation, if you take its entire economy, it is just one figure hydrocarbon exports 2021 gave her 46% of foreign exchange revenue , and now the blow goes to almost this half. and if we add goods that, according to russian statistical data, are classified as unspecified goods, and there is 20%, then this is most likely oil and gas then we understand that two -thirds of the russian economy has been under attack since the end of december, let's say, since the fifth of december, and this is to dilute the fact that the indicators given by the russian e-e economy are getting worse and worse and worse and already russian experts on russian

television express the opinion that most likely this fund of national well-being that is in russia will not be enough until the end of 2023, it is very, very good what you said, but please tell me , is it possible to put russia on the shoulders with these sanctions or is it on the shoulders it won't work, but it's very strong, at least, i'm sorry, you can put it on the scapulars, you know, it's very difficult for me to imagine that it would be possible to put it on the shoulder blades, nevertheless, it's really the eyes, as i mentioned, the tactics of small incisions, they give a little bit , it's visible, and maybe we don't see it. that's the effect. no less, here are certain components, certain components there when we see what, for example , here is another figure that appeared literally last week is that the russian federation is now forced to change the expenses of its budget and

this is the optimization of the redirection of funds this leads to the fact that, for example, hospitals in the villages of russia this year receive 32% less funds for the purchase of medicines, i.e. imagine what it is like when a hospital actually reduces the possibility of obtaining medicines by a third, i.e. a hospital without medicines is something so terrible, nevertheless a- and this situation is now real. so, two thirds remain, but the dynamic we see is that more and more problems are created for the russian economy little by little, and they will accumulate because, again, new sanctions will be introduced. i still hope that by the anniversary of the war, the 10th package of sanctions. we still do not know what is there, but we understand that any package of sanctions complicates the normal economic life of russia and , most importantly, it deprives it of its future, and when a country is deprived of its future, it leads to the fact that

people are leaving it, as shown in the third quarter of last year, people who left due to the so-called partial mobilization, they left with money , so the withdrawal of money from russia in the third quarter of last year was 26 times more than in the third quarter of 2021. a very powerful indicator that actually demonstrates that money is flowing out of russia and what will happen when there is no money, i would like to see what will happen there when there is no money ivan, before i ask you the next question to our viewers, i want to say that the charming lady editor told me that the question we asked on youtube: will iran stop giving drones to russia after the shelling, that's 60, how many 60 tell me, well, 61% say that it won't stop. well, to be honest, i voted the same way, ivan, look

now let's move on to europe, sanctions and europe, uh, repeatedly, some letters from some european states complain a lot about the fact that sanctions do not harm russia, but in general , they harm in europe, this is true, and because sanctions they cannot, let's say, harm one country and not to harm others, but it is possible to reduce the effect of these sanctions and what did europe do during 2022, despite its statements, it began to get rid of its dependence on russian hydrocarbons , it began to diversify this process and one found out that it can do it, there was an agreement with azerbaijan that azerbaijan will increase the delivery of natural gas from eight million cubic meters to what seems to be twenty, and an agreement with the state of boat projects with algeria, with nigeria, with norway, which is entering the eu, connecting the state of america, which in general became the largest supplier gas to the eu and that is, it turned out that the european union in

2022 devarsified sources of supply of carbohydrates, primarily natural gas, and now that is what russia was making money on, and the main kosh is all she earned money in europe, she can no longer earn, that is, in russia, uh, europe . yes, she suffered, but she found options to minimize her problem, how to find these sources, we all remember these crazy gas prices in europe, they were really very high but what we now have, you know, i compared the peak value of gas prices in europe at prices at the beginning of 2023. so it happened to me that the price fell somewhere. imagine if you take the average for a month, on average in august, gas in europe cost twice as much as in january that is, we we see how europe found ways out of the situation, carried out diversification and now europe has gas from asia. there are no funds that

it previously earned in europe, that is , the economic effect of this whole game of russia , that is, mr. ivan, did i understand correctly that if we talk about the complaints of certain european leaders, come on i will directly say, for example , the prime minister of hungary, viktor orbán, about how his poor hungary suffers from these sanctions, these are more political statements than real, and some negative consequences are real from sanctions for hungary, definitely. sometimes it seems to me that viktor gorban is playing some kind of cranky child who wants to get some discounts from the european union in exchange for the fact that he will give up his clearly pro-russian policy, because we understand that hungary is now almost the only one an eu country that is now considered rather as an ally of russia, while others increasingly distance themselves from russia, but this is partly

related to this word with pressure on the eu, and partly this already applies to other politicians of the european union who are still living in the unreal that existed until, let's say, 2022, when there really was dependence on russia and they don't notice that the eu just did something - it reduced this dependence, and the more politicians in europe understand that there is no such dependence, the more bold steps they take as an example that's why germany, remember the declared germany at the beginning of the war , they didn't want to give maxim anything at all , now it's the same for the politicians, they still say that they won't give, but also tanks they said that now they gave why because they they understand that this dependence they lived in, and in their heads sat the thought that how can we do without russia, this will be the end of our economy, now she understands that there will be no end, because i diversification italy, the first since

1974, had a week of shopping somewhere not a single drop of gas from russia is the best demonstration of the fact that even though they were used to receiving this gas without russia, they thought that it was impossible to live without it, and the more they will realize that there is no dependence in the person's head , the more daring these steps were. and if they will still find an opportunity to put pressure on mr. orbán to return to a unified european policy, in that this way of reminding hungary of 1956 , when they, let's say, at the cost of their lives, defended, as the then head of their radio said, not only themselves but also all of europe, and now ukraine, in fact, just like hungary in 1956, defends itself and this europe with its lives, so i think that hungary will also change its attitude, at least to budapest. i see how they demonstrate anti-russian sentiments. i hope that they extend to this country. i also really hope, mr. ivan, the last question to you is obviously

the most important for us, but how did the economy and financial sector of ukraine survive this year, do we still have a margin of safety, you know, yes, we definitely have a polyproblem. but unlike russia we have a lot of friends when we talk about the fact that ukraine supports, first of all, it is weapons, but let's not forget about the financial connection of the united states of america, which gave a lot of funds, and what is interesting, as a rule, these funds are grant grants do not need to be returned so we, when someone declares that ukraine will be in bondage, what kind of cables if we do not need to return this money, they simply gave us money to get our economy as far as the european union is concerned. so these are loans that must be returned, but i will remind you of the last agreement which appeared at the beginning of this year about the fact that a loan is given for 35 years after 35 years , well, you know, i am not ready to say what will happen because it is a very long period of time, but i am sure

that firstly we will be in the eu and secondly somehow our economy will definitely be able to generate this money and, therefore, return it , it is really thanks to our partners. dollars, that is, we see that the world is actually united with the goal of helping ukraine. this is good not only for ukraine, but for the whole world, and we will survive and win. thank you, mr. ivan, for participating in my program today. thank you for your professional answers. this was ivan uz, the chief consultant of the national institute of strategic studies, candidate of economic sciences, so before i introduce my last guest for today, i want to remind you that there is a poll waiting for you on youtube, uh, 270 votes have already voted - people voted, they

answered the question will it stop iran after the shelling give russia drones yes no your option 63% say it won't stop well that's how he is that iranian and by the way i voted exactly like that keep voting keep commenting because it's important to us and this important for the promotion of our program in the complex youtube algorithm. well, let's come to the final stage of today's program: politics, the year of war and politics, and i will talk about this with my guest, bohdan ferentz, an international expert, candidate of political sciences, mr. bohdane. congratulations , glory to ukraine. thank you for joining. congratulations. you are a hero. glory to the council always ah, come on, at first i wasn't going to ask you this question until yesterday, but what happened in iran happened. that's why i have to

ask you about iran, after all, on saturday evening there were a number of explosions as reported by international news agencies and here is the leadership of iran what do you think will be forced now after these explosions whoever did it whether israel or the united states of america together with israel or anyone or the leadership of the islamic republic will now be forced to think about it at least a should we give drones to russia if they can't defend themselves well , i think that if they don't have those drones anymore, then they will definitely think about it and, in principle, it is unlikely that they will be able to quickly resume their production, if indeed the targets were targeted, but i would like to point out that, first of all, it is worth considering these actions, i think from the side of israel, because the prime minister of renault kangoo stated that the increase in the level

of terrorist threats and security threats to israel will be reacted harshly and in this way, i think. well, it is clear to everyone, since israel and iran are eternal opponents and enemies, that is, the situation can be analyzed in principle as to why this happens, but i would not consider it only from the point of view of deepening cooperation. and early and russia, although one of these key factors as well . and this really needs to be harmed, and in principle, not many countries can do it effectively in the region, and how else did i consider this, given the threat that iran produces every day in the context of the external environment of all his actions in this way he refocuses attention on his internal political problems of protests that have been taking place for a long time , he is looking for an external enemy and thus wants

to mobilize his citizens again at the same time even more suppression of any protest sentiments, and i do not rule out that cooperation between the iranians and russia in the nuclear field has significantly deepened, and in my opinion , the most compelling argument for taking such radical actions is that i consider peace. just the situation with the desire to advance significantly in the context of uranium enrichment and in the context of the realization of one's long -standing dream of acquiring nuclear weapons, and this, first of all, directly threatens not only israel there , but also the global context in general, thank you

mr. bohdan and now let's talk about what i wanted to talk about with you from the very beginning, namely the political component of this war, which has been going on for a year of full-scale war in ukraine. last week, the president of the european council, charles michel, said that the next two three weeks can be very important and decisive for europe in general and ukraine in particular, bohdane, in your opinion, this kind of statement can be evidence that a united europe has decided and is ready to be with us until the end, because it finally understands understands unitedly understands that what this victory must be in ukraine and it will be, it will be a victory for europe , well, the proof of this is the concrete steps of the supply of heavy weapons, first of all, heavy tanks, how much it was debatable, an internal question, both within the european union, yes and there is the state nata, but we saw that the decision

was made and this means that, this time , i think our partners wanted to work a little ahead of time because, unfortunately , often in the past after a full-scale invasion, important decisions were made after the fact, which later helped us, of course, but did not give us the opportunity to act preemptively to protect, for example, our airspace to protect our soldiers on the front line so that russian missiles hit our infrastructure less, so in my opinion, consolidation is now of our western partners , it is taking place in unambiguously positive dynamics, and there may be certain disagreements in the context of the fact that the war is dragging on, they see it, they understand that this support is for us it is not that it is absolutely necessary, it is existential because

we are financially and economically dependent on our western partners in the military context, and this means that in order to oppose the kremlin again, we have to deepen this cooperation even more, we have to as soon as possible to make decisions more effectively, i now turn more to our european partners and , uh, work ahead of time so as not to give putin the tools for maneuvers, so to speak , for tactical actions that can significantly change, for example, in one dimension or another the configuration there on the battlefield, this is actually the main task for all of us for civilized countries. i hope that we will complete this task by now, maybe 12 points, mr. bohdan, look at hungary, i already spoke with my previous interlocutor, but we touched on the economic component. now let's with you, about hungary's political component, recently

, these are all the statements that are being made by the prime minister of this country, viktor horb, to the minister of foreign affairs, and the case of petter siyar , that the sanctions are harming hungary to think only about yourself, only about yourself, about your people and what will happen to her, er, we constantly talk about this at negotiations and with official brussels, this was all, but the last thing that really touched me er, well, it touched me so much. while peter siyar is still alive, the minister of foreign affairs said again about some oppression of the hungarians on the territory of ukrainian transcarpathia. please tell me. if we can put it all together. well , it is possible not to assert, but to suspect that there is a russian trojan horse on the territory of europe on the border with ukraine.

everything related to our bilateral relations with hungary. it is very sensitive, problematic, and also here. the factor of russian influence is always present. the first thing is how to change such a context. well, unfortunately, for now , the government in hungary is in a democratic way, and it will not change because, yes, hungary - these are the members of the european union to expect that the policy towards ukraine will be changed from, for example, the orban administration , unfortunately, it is not worth it, because it is the environment and the politician who is now especially using blackmail in the context of supporting ukraine the allocation of certain financial resources to their advantage in order to trade with brussels at the same time because hungary has a number of its own serious problems, especially in the context of the rule of law, ensuring access to mass media for all, for example

, political participants, and thus brussels is trying to somehow respond to that that is really why the european union was created to share common values ​​and principles and somehow function according to the same rules. and when one country or one political force wants directly level these principles and values ​​here, if you don't react, you as a union , yes, as an association, you will succumb to weakness , that's why orban actually uses the issue of ukraine at the expense of how they can extract even more from brussels for example, some concessions in the context of their relations, yes, budapest , the european union, a european official, therefore , carefully, again, more is needed with the help of our partners, and maybe even

through the same brussels, through another capital , to try to build a policy after all which would make it impossible for budapest to speculate on issues related to ukraine, ethnic minorities, language issues, because these are very sensitive topics , especially during the war, that is, from what you said, i personally understood that everything that what the leadership of hungary is doing now, the government of hungary are political maneuvers. in their game with brussels , that is, it is not worth talking about the russian trojan horse on the border with ukraine. well, in order to say that, i think that our special services should be involved, which are in have the first priority to take care of our security, to counteract various elements of sabotage that may occur because, well, even before the full-scale invasion of us

, there was such an aggravated situation on the border with hungary on several occasions, then certain problematic moments were filmed, visits, bilateral meetings took place, and this is, you know, a constant discussion e- is sometimes tense , which requires the building of relations after all, because it is a neighboring country, and in addition to being a neighbor, it is also a member of the eu and the chamber. to understand that it should not happen as it is now happening in sweden , for example, and in the context of the north atlantic alliance when turkey is still blocking sweden's entry into nato using its so-called veto right, it is not excluded that the hungarians will unfortunately use the same tool in the future so that it is possible for us in one or another context to hinder our

integration as well, but let's hope that there will be changes and the changes will be positive , let's hope mr. bohdan, the last question for you is about our northern neighbor which, unfortunately, also flirts with the aggressor country about belarus. please tell me that the european union has started preparing a package of sanctions against belarus, and according to the information i read, they say that this package and these sanctions will be little different from the introduced anti-russian sanctions. do you think it will be able to somehow, well, maybe well, not to influence. and i don’t know how to push lukashenka to make him think. to be honest, i ’m not sure that right now, the tools of sectional politics are super, let’s say

, they can change lukashenko’s position. and i’ll explain why because lukashenko is as independent as possible literally half a minute because time is running out lukashenko depends on the kremlin from putin directly and both in the context of the leader's country and physically in the context of his own security therefore , whatever he will be told from the kremlin, he will carry out further tries to balance further tries it is still possible to show the partial west that it does not want to be involved in the russian-ukrainian war as much as possible. but at the same time, we must understand that it made its choice. unfortunately, this choice is not on the benefit of the european union and western countries with their democracies, unfortunately, mr. bohdan. thank you very much for participating in my program . thank you for your professional answers. it was bohdan ferenc, an international expert, candidate of political sciences. what i was thinking about the three components of the war that has been going on for three ts of the full-scale war that has been going on for less than

three weeks one uh year well , i'm summing up i'm summing up first of all the voting that we arranged for you at least for those who watch us on youtube, will iran stop giving russia drones after the bombing yes no your option yes 60 well, i already forgot they told me but i was for 65% they said it will not stop and 442 votes right now we have 1959 people watching thank you what are you watching, put your likes or dislikes even though i don’t want it and continue to comment. well, i’m finishing the program world during the war and handing over the floor to my colleague from serhiy rudenko and in the program verdict serhiy continues thank you yura literally for a few