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[000:00:00;00] has now become the first country where in the presidential elections the ukrainian theme was one of the key factors in determining voter sympathy, not even the internal development of the czech republic on economic indicators, not some other things , ukraine helped general pavlo win well, i think that this trend will spread and this is really important because it ukraine is just civilization and freedom, which we strive for and a normal life. thank you for being with us. take care of yourself. tomorrow at 11:15 in my project, the outlook will be very interesting. don't miss it. dmytro chakalkin will be there. let's talk about ipso-russian well, literally in a few seconds you will receive a news release from my colleagues from the ukrainian editorial office of bbc news. good evening. we are from ukraine . i congratulate this. bbc news ukraine is working in the studio.
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told how putin threatened him before the invasion of ukraine, thousands of women were banned from traveling abroad and it is about women civil servants and deputies of councils of all levels, the government is changing the rules for crossing the border during martial law, we will give you, sir the owner of a military plant in iran, what is known about the events and the reaction to them, the president of ukraine , volodymyr zelenskyi, visited the mykolaiv region , there he met with the prime minister, data from medtefredriks, it was denmark that took charge of the reconstruction of mykolaiv, zelenskyi
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said that he discussed the operational situation in the south of ukraine as well as the consequences of hydron missile attacks, together with the danish prime minister , they visited wounded ukrainian defenders in one of the hospitals of mykolaiv , it is important, as zelensky wrote, that the soldiers were able to undergo not only physical but also psychological rehabilitation, the prime minister of denmark, medtefrederikson, said that at the meeting with president volodymyr zelenskyi , questions were raised , including about tanks for ukraine. britain said that putin threatened him with a missile strike , according to boris johnson, the russian president said this during a telephone conversation on the eve of russia's invasion of ukraine, and that he needed to carry out the attack quoting only 1 minute or something, all the details were collected in a bbc documentary on president putin's communication
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with world leaders , correspondent james landale will continue kyiv last february, a city in anticipation of war, borscht johnson then visited ukraine as a sign of support for president zelensky zelensky, who was still in a suit at the time and ties later he will change them to army camouflage along with other countries we are also preparing a package of sanctions and other measures johnson's public appeal to russia not to invade ukraine caused an unexpected reaction from president putin. i returned from kyiv and the next day i had a conversation with putin again. it was a very long and extremely strange call. he spoke very familiarly . johnson then remarked to putin that the invasion of ukraine would only lead to an increase in nato forces on the border with russia. he said to fight, you say that ukraine is not going to join nato in the near future, and in the near
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future, he said in english, but what do you mean when you say in the near future, i answered well she won't join nato in the foreseeable future and then putin answered he loaded me and said boris i don't want to hurt you but with a missile it only takes a minute or so he said but i think from a very calm tone and a certain detachment he just playing along with my attempts to get him to enter into negotiations next week the british defense secretary visited moscow to meet with the russian military leadership, which he said lied about its plans for of ukraine i remember telling mr. sheik that they ukrainians will fight he said that my mother is ukrainian you know they won't he also said that the russians had no intention of bargaining and it would be in the early russian language in the early i believe that this is a kind of demonstration
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of bullying or strength which translates to i'll lie to you you know i'm lying i know you know i'm lying and i'll lie to you anyway it was a terrible and straight lie that they didn't mean to do it who thinks confirmed to me that they were going to do it and he was right, in a few days, a massive invasion began. russia launched a flurry of missile strikes across ukraine, and its tanks and troops rushed across the borders. correspondent james landale and this interview were filmed as part of the documentary putin's counter-defense . meanwhile, russian president dmitry peskov called it a lie. boris johnson's words about putin's threats, according to him, the russian president, in a conversation with johnson, noted that ukraine's attack on nato and the placement of missiles near the russian borders would mean that
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any missile will reach moscow in a matter of minutes, that is, according to the version of the kremlin representative, it was not about the possibility of a russian missile attack on britain, but about the threat to russia itself, and we continue this topic together with the military expert who is in touch with us serhiy grabsky mr. serhiy greetings thank you that joined, but we just listened to the interview and the british ex-prime minister and the defense minister say that they tried to convince putin to abandon the idea of ​​​​invading ukraine, but johnson says that he received a threat in response, did it even work then tactics of intimidation and good evening studio so definitely i literally remember that time for a minute what was happening in ukraine and around ukraine ukraine and definitely this tactic was the main calculation and such an emphasis was made when uh russians prefer to speak the enemy tried to break the defense and civilized education even before the start of such
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military aggression, which is actually a normal tool, and these intimidation, these messages that sounded from the military leadership of the russian federation testified to the fact that they are already ancient well, everything was decided and they play with terms, sometimes they play with the situation in order to divert attention and inflict a sneaky blow on themselves well, nevertheless, 11 months of the war have already passed, i stopped being afraid, then you know, uh, i would say so, i talk about it very often that the west stopped being afraid of putin, march 2 is the date, you know, it is a bit conditional, but in fact, from the point of view of military analytics, march 2 is considered as the time when putin should have taken kyiv and announced the creation of a new moscow government
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this did not happen to ukraine, moreover, putin’s troops began to suffer systematic defeats . ukraine ’s will to fight was not destroyed. federation for this war, considering the fact that russia did not prepare for such a war as it received in ukraine, it unexpectedly encountered the desperate and stubborn resistance of the ukrainian defenders, the west realized that the war actually, putin lost and it is only a matter of time when they also receive a military defeat. thus, in fact, i would call march 2 as such, you know, the starting point of the fact that the west simply stopped being afraid and began to consolidate, i emphasize, only began to consolidate in the implementation of e selection of putin's aggression by helping ukraine, yes
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, of course, i also want to talk about the situation at the front, and here i want to quote the summary of the american institute for the study of war, and experts say that the delay of the event with providing ukraine with long-range weapons of air defense systems and tanks limited the ability of the ukrainian army to use the opportunities for a larger-scale counteroffensive, in particular, they believe that on the battlefield the russians had the initiative and led the offensive from the end of february to the beginning of july 22nd, but after that ukraine seized the initiative and left in the counteroffensive liberated the western part of kherson oblast, but since then there have been no major counteroffensives from the ukrainian side, and one of the reasons for this is the delay in providing military aid to ukraine this is what analysts say, the russians allegedly used these delays to restore forces and attack bakhmut and mr. serhiy, do you agree with
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the conclusions of american analysts, or is time really playing against the armed forces of ukraine with the conclusion that i can partially agree that the decrease in the pace of arms deliveries and military equipment, they objectively led to the fact that the ukrainian armed forces were forced to reduce the pace of the offensive and limited themselves to those positions in which they reached the end september until the end of october, the beginning of november 2020 , but i am categorically against the statement that time is now playing against ukraine. the equipment being repaired is going to support the defense forces of ukraine, of course it is about creating a qualitatively new shock fist that would help us continue
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the offensive, but it must be understood that the forces of the ukrainians the forces of ukrainian soldiers are dangerous, it is necessary to regroup, it is necessary to realize what has happened, to concentrate additional resources, and the very arrival of those resources that we are talking about has become one of those factors that have slightly delayed the offensive of the ukrainian defense forces to date, but i categorically do not agree that time is playing against ukraine as i already said that weapons are arriving and training is taking place, and recently ukrainian fighters have arrived in great britain, they are undergoing training there just like in other countries of the world. are preparing for battles. we are waiting for the equipment, we are studying this equipment in parallel, and we are already talking about the training of our tonicists , the training of our pilots, and we are relying on the collective support of the west, which is, well , practically limitless, at the same time, in russia , there is absolutely no time for that
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that, realizing the growing support of the ukrainian defense forces and ukraine in the world, russia at the same time cannot afford large-scale training and is losing time, it is losing resources. well , in fact, it is heading for the shameful defeat it has already received in this war, it must now just to formalize your own russian leadership is now committing a crime against its own population, forcing them to die mindlessly on the battlefields in ukraine without any hope of victory , so i agree with that. ugledara attacks, yes , in russia, the ministry of defense says that they have taken more advantageous positions, what is happening there, you know, yes, it is definitely known , you know, so they want and declare that are not concentrating on the ughledar attacks. this does not mean that this is the case in fact, because as a result of such a rather concentrated attack, the ukrainian troops
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retreated a little, but then they seized the initiative. similar to the scenario of soledar or bakhmut, the russians will definitely try to put pressure on vugledar as an extremely important point on the front line and which is a strategic object for both the armed forces of ukraine and the russian of the occupying forces e-e at the same time e-e if you compare the number and quality of the forces used against the ugledar and the ugledar and against bahmut , it is heaven and earth, that is, under the ugledar there are units of the marines, and let it be known by name, but in fact for the military it is the light infantry is armed with relatively light weapons that have an assault value. but this does not mean that they can , er, show, well, maintain a high pace of hostilities and carry out such offensives, so
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i would not compare them with bakhmut and talk about what is now in the coalface battles are going on that are equivalent to bahmut. i would also not become an enemy. in fact, he also put pressure on the ukrainian position in the zaporizhzhia direction. in the ugledar direction, where , in fact, for the third day , the side is in a relatively stable, stable position. let's talk about another high-profile topic of the explosion in iran at a factory that produces drones. today it became known that the ministry of foreign affairs of iran summoned a ukrainian
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diplomat due to comments on a drone attack on a military factory. were attacked - the warehouses of the airbase and factories for the production of ammunition were attacked, the head of the office of the president of ukraine, mykhailo podolyak , reacted to the event and wrote on twitter that the war accounts for the authors and accomplices, mentioning that it is iran that helps russia in the war, so whether the situation with the explosions in iran can affect the course of the war in ukraine , let's try to figure it out together with an expert, and we are joined by the director of the center for middle eastern studies, ihor semy volos , mr. ihoru. i welcome you on the air. the events that happened last weekend, the explosions at the iranian bases, do you personally have an understanding of who is behind them? no, of course i have an understanding of who is behind them, but i
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cannot prove it, well, at least because the party which most likely carried out this rather serious operational maneuver. she refuses to take such responsibility that one of the parties has not taken responsibility so far . okay, in your opinion, what can follow these strikes on the iranian military objects and what do you think they can do again and how iran itself can respond yes, i think that there is a possibility of repeating these strikes because it is serious already now we can say yes it is planned hmm we can see the scenario of the development of these events
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serious statements on the part of the american anthony blinken, the secretary of state of the united states of america, who is currently meeting with the prime minister of israel, he is not a tanyagu, and just as they record that in no way, no matter what his circumstances are, israel and the united states the americans will not allow iran to get the opportunity to produce, well, or create a nuclear bomb and get the means to make an impact, that is , we are talking about missiles. so, it is obvious that this strike, which was carried out by a plow train on this military object, is rather a warning than a serious military strike and this is a pretty clear hint to the iranians that they still have time to choose . blinkin's speech was dedicated to this when he said that all cards are on the table, all
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solutions are now working including the military, and it depends on iran whether it will return to diplomacy, yes, that is, in the situation with iran. therefore, now , of course , they expect a response from iran. wait a few days and then something this is what they do. that is, it is mostly shelling with missiles like this. in february of the 22nd year, when israel also bombarded iranian territory with drones, or is it like during the murder of kass-mass magna, then the iranians also fired missiles at the territory of iraq and american
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military bases. it is quite possible that we we will have approximately the same scenario, the only question is where will these missiles be directed and if they are directed against the territory of israel itself, then without a doubt this is a huge escalation and it is obvious that there will be retaliatory strikes from israel, i.e. it is unlikely that iran is ready for this, and they say that iran can traditionally harass the israelis in the persian gulf or in the regular sea, that is, with tankers, they do it regularly, and this is probably all that they will be capable of, in any case, i think that it is worth waiting a few days and the answer will already be on the table for the iranians, it will be obvious that they are accused of supplying russia with a drone, yes. and now there is also information about negotiations between the tigran navy regarding
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the supply of ballistic missiles. it happened that iran turned into the main military ally of russia. how can this be changed? you know. it probably did not come from a good life for the russians . edit it seems to me that the answer here is very simple and the morning when i concluded the agreement with russia . let me remind you that it was in the summer of last year. the black swan will fly in in the form of er murders er maximum and the beginning of full headquarters protests which today are already spilling into a revolution because at least that is what
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the iranians themselves say and the political destabilization of the country is already obvious and it is not only on the street and it is also inside the political class where there is no unity, and contacts with russia and agreements with russia, they also split the iranian political class, the economic situation in connection with sanctions is quite difficult, and the only thing that actually held this regime was military power , and this military power that spread in the middle east and with the russians, because the russians paid the iranians a lot of money, and thanks to this, they allowed them to maintain a certain level of the poor population
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, which forms the basis, so to speak, of the regime. and this is a kind of a kind of boomerang to the very idea of ​​supplying uavs to russia, they will blow up the military stalemate soviet and it is obvious that the ira can hardly apply anything here or, let's say, offer an effective way in response stop this one therefore the americans and the israelis offer iran a real choice now or you move away from the russians and this is me answering the question of what to do with the missiles, i.e. transfer the missiles, do not refuse to cooperate with the russians regarding drones, and start negotiations with the americans, i.e. return to the mm- e format -e of the nuclear agreement but on the terms of the americans , that is, the end of expansion with security guarantees to neighbors, and with the termination of the actual
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policy of exporting the icelandic revolution and the like, that is, the situation for iran as on it got complicated for me, and it seems to me that despite all the good news from, let's say, high-ranking officials of iran, well, moscow, they feel the circumstances that they got into, well, you talked about the protests , and we were closely following the events in the fall , so at what stage is the public now protest in iran and actually , can these protest movements grow into something more, or is hope already lost, in short, if it is possible, you know, they can grow, i see now the institutionalization of these protests, this is very important, that is, organizations are being formed ideologies are being formed, structures are being formed, which are necessary simply so that in the future and i predict this future
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, the situation will radically change over the course of a year, the american press writes that ukraine will receive abrams tanks only by the end of this year or the beginning of next year, this is in particular the data of the washington post edition , it is about 31 such tanks the delay will occur due to the fact that these tanks will not be taken out of the us military stockpiles and will be specially purchased for delivery to ukraine . also, the tanks will not be equipped with a special armor made of depleted uranium is a classified design and the usa does not want it to fall into the hands of russia. if the machines are captured on the battlefield, experts have repeatedly pointed out that the ukrainian army needs western tanks not only to repel a possible russian attack, but also just to reach to the crimea, this is an example, according to the american analyst general benhodges, in the past he was
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the commander of the us army in europe , and these tanks are not a silver bullet that will immediately solve all problems, usually there is no single system weapons as we know from our own history, the most effective way to fight is a combined military unit where there is infantry and artillery, there are engineers and tanks with the support of the air force that can help clear the way and restrain the enemy during the advance and of course everything depends not only on weapons, this requires training i think this is what the ukrainians are working on. over the next two or three months, we need to work on how to coordinate everything. also , tell me what is the strategic importance of crimea , help me understand why you are so if you look at the map of crimea, this is the place from where the russian fleet, if the russians still control crimea, will be able to prevent any trade that passes through odessa or the places where the dnieper flows, and
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obviously if they still hold crimea , they will continue to block access to the sea of ​​azov which they agreed to divide many years ago due to the occupation of crimea by russia, the economy of ukraine will never be able to confidently export other ships will not want to go there so this is a big problem with from an economic point of view, also if they receive crimea in a few years, when the west loses interest in it, they will be able to start a new attack on ukraine and eventually why is this war not only about ukraine , it is about respect for international law and sovereignty. i do not consider it acceptable to reward russia with crimea for her illegal actions - this is aggression and this is the illegal annexation of crimea , there is no deadlock the deadlock assumes that neither side can
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do anything when in fact the russians are stopped every day suffer huge losses, and the ukrainians realized that they can stop the russians even with what they have, which allows them to start training, and then if they have long-range, high-precision weapons with long-range weapons, they will be able to make crimea such that the russians themselves will not need it, and the point is to aim fire on sevastopol on the jankoya logistics center on the russian air base in saki these are the places where high-precision weapons can make it impossible for the russians to work from there and also of course guaranteeing that they will never be able to repair that kerch bridge, despite the war, constant shelling and deadly risks, ukrainians are returning to their hometowns of the estuary - this town in donbas was under russian occupation from may to october of last year . 13,000 people now live there, how they are rebuilding their lives, what they dream about, how they remember the months of occupation, the correspondent bbc andrew harding
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talks on the liberated lands of donbas among the ruins here in lyman people are learning to survive in the russian military retreated from here three months ago but they remain close ukrainian fighter jets are heading to bomb the line the front to which is 20 km from here. 73-year-old oleksandr lives here himself, he takes care of eight abandoned cats among those who returned to the city, mostly elderly and low-income people, now they are helped by free food, which is delivered here every day from safer places, younger townspeople also have to find ways to survive valeriy is in trouble himself, but he took care of a homeless dog, he named her princess diana. valeriy is a railway worker. but now his main task is to take care of the heating in his
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area, there is no central gas and water heating two, valery's wife, iryna, an accountant, a woman shows the basement in which they have been living for the past nine months, it is a labyrinth of tiny rooms, the electricity was recently restored here, new year's garlands are still hanging here, some of their neighbors openly supported russia, there were , of course, many pro-russian supporters, says iryna, but they all left together with the russian military when they were retreating, they were probably afraid of the possible consequences of the horrors of the last few months, no wonder they united this city before the war, there were people here and in other places that they sincerely supported russia, now that has changed, the mayor of liman is back to work and is fighting to establish services in the city, but given the damage that russian missiles are still causing, he is not sure that the city
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will be able to cope with a large number of residents, i am 100% sure that the russians will not capture the city again, says mayor oleksandr zhuravlyov , our military will not allow this, but still, it is too close to the front line, not only close, but also loudly, because both armies are preparing for a new offensive. andrew gardin from estuary and that's all for today, poems of history , search on our website bbc.ua and on our pages in social networks, on the air tomorrow at 9:00 p.m. all the best, movies,

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