[000:00:00;00] pilen tuesday thursday at 11:40 a.m. and friday at 1:00 p.m. on the espresso tv channel about unbreakable cities and villages, decentralization and great ukrainians of small communities that are approaching victory in anna valevska 's self-government project, this war is ours with you , a civilizational choice of self-government with anna valevska on thursdays at 12:15 on espresso, i welcome the program of the ukrainian voice of america time, and i am its host, ostap yarysh, ukrainian tankers have arrived in great

britain for training on challenger 2 tanks . this was reported to the ministry of defense of the united kingdoms earlier, britain announced the transfer of 14 such tanks to ukraine in addition to the leopard and abrams tanks that other allies have pledged to provide. meanwhile , boris johnson, the former prime minister of great britain, said that vladimir putin hinted to him before the major invasion of ukraine about the possibility of a missile attack on britain, we will talk more about it with our european correspondent bohdan tsyupan , who joins the broadcast from london bohdan , i congratulate you, let's start with the tanks, and do you know anything more about these trainings in britain, how long will they possibly last and when can ukraine receive these tanks with trained crews on the ostap battlefield, as you said, we know that the ukrainians who will be trained on challenger 2 tanks in britain have already arrived over the weekend . the british ministry of defense submitted

photos of people who came from we know that every tank has a crew of four people, it is obvious that there will be more people preparing to work with british tanks in great britain, and by the way, there are questions about when they will be trained ukrainian tankers and when british tanks will be in ukraine, this was a question today to the british minister of defense, ben wallace. he said that he would not say when exactly it would be due to military secrecy, he said, but he allowed himself to say that it is about what because it is obvious that the ukrainian crews will be in ukraine until the summer , uh, he also said about may and he also said about uh, easter is a holiday

that falls on april, so it's spring, bohdana , i want to ask you also about boris johnson's statement, which we already mentioned about these threats of a missile strike from russia, and now it is being actively discussed in the media, why did the former british prime minister decide to mention it now and how, according to him, it was, well, it was not quite a statement, it is about the fact that with the approach of the anniversary of russia's february invasion of ukraine, now the mass media are actually already preparing documentary materials, and now on american television these days there are three syrian documentary tapes that trace how putin

, starting in 2014, started a war with ukraine, how he prepared the february invasion, and boris johnson, one of the heroes, so to speak, of this documentary tells how , by the way, in february 2022, literally a week or days before the start of the invasion, he spoke with putin in a long conversation , trying to dissuade him from to start a new invasion and a large-scale war in ukraine and boris johnson said that at one point russian president putin actually uttered a threat, he perceived it as a threat because in the words of boris johnson, putin said that if i'm telling the truth, boris, i don't want to do anything bad to you, but a missile is just

a moment, and it sounded like a serious threat to the british prime minister, in moscow, johnson was already accused of lying they say that these are false statements , this did not happen. but can we know exactly what state leaders are talking about in phone conversations, bohdane, as a rule, we do not know this, for example, again , returning to the conversation between boris johnson and putin, berezhong he says that when putin told him about the missile, on the one hand, it could be assumed that putin was joking , although it is obvious that for johnson it was not a very pleasant topic for such jokes about the exact content of conversations, we actually very rarely know in emergency situations. for example , we we found out about the transcript of the conversation between american president donald trump and

ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyi because of the scandal, and world leaders don't really like it when we know exactly what they're talking about, but sometimes they talk about it and, for example, recently he is one of the few western leaders who still talk to putin from time to time. german chancellor olaf scholz said the following about his conversation with putin in december. the cruelty that the russian president is capable of. we saw in chechnya where he actually destroyed more or less the whole country or in syria there was no restraint there, it must be said that what is happening does not correspond to the international laws of warfare but as i said, even though we have completely opposite views, i will continue to talk to

him because i long for the moment when there will be an opportunity to get out of this situation and it won't be if we don't talk that since the beginning of the war something has changed in what he says and what he wants to achieve but one thing that has remained unchanged is that he just wants to conquer a part of the ukrainian territory by force and this in my opinion, it is also very depressing that despite the fact of heavy losses on the russian side, it did not change anything these are the words of bohdan from allapashov thank you for your information and for your analysis, see you in the next broadcasts i will remind you that we were contacted by bohdan super on our european correspondent in direct contact from london after the announcement of the delivery of western tanks to ukraine , the calls to provide kyiv with modern fighter jets in response to this became louder polish prime minister we are also marovetski suggested the transfer of american -made f16 fighter jets to ukraine, at the same time he added that such

a step should be coordinated with nato countries , previously the possibility of providing f16 aircraft to ukraine was discussed in the netherlands according to data of the american media in the pentagon is also considering this possibility, the deputy radical for national security of the usa, don feiner, stated that the united states does not reject any military supplies to ukraine, including f-16 fighter jets, disinformation, fakes and manipulations, russia is waging a war in ukraine not only on the battlefield, but also in the information plane throughout the year , the russian leadership spread false information about the advance of troops, shelling of civilian objects and the true intentions, as they call it, of special operations about the role of the russian

disinformation in the war and why kremlin propaganda no longer works, maria yulianovskyi, vice-president of the center for information stability, nina yankovich, told about the role of russian disinformation in the war against ukraine and how it changed compared to 2014. of course, russian disinformation played a decisive role in the war against ukraine not only with at the time of the full-scale invasion and since 2014, although this role has changed somewhat, it is clear that in 2014 disinformation was a new phenomenon for the world , we saw it when many journalists visited crimea and donbas during the illegal annexation, they tried to present, so to speak, both sides of the conflict and interviewed small green men, polite people, as if they were legitimate commentators on the situation, journalists spoke to people whom they represented as local residents of crimea and donbas, but in fact they were people specially brought by the russians and parts of the information operation, in addition to this, we then

observed the use of trolls and bots on the internet, which artificially reinforced certain narratives that actually also came from by russians, and journalists quoted them as real people, now i hope we have become more reasonable, this has become much less and it is spread mainly by pro-russian media and experts . in general, i think that we have become more aware of the intentions of russia in ukraine, i have to say that in 2022 and now in 2023- why the russian information war in ukraine is practically failing the war in ukraine putin, he does not look neat, he sits hunched over his desk, his tie is twisted, he shouts at his generals, this is a striking contrast compared to how zelensky behaves and not only he, but also

the ukrainian government, society and ordinary people , they all speak from the heart, and that is why i believe we see such great support for ukraine, despite the fact that the war has been going on for so long, many people predicted fatigue from ukraine, but there is none, and i think it is due to the strength of ukrainian history and the sincerity of communication compared to the kremlin's a lie that simply cannot withstand criticism in this digital war. i believe that russia has become less modernized in spreading its disinformation because social networks have learned to counter botame trolls. therefore, now there is less of such an artificial strengthening of information whales, what we have observed especially since february is something like laundering of information, that is, putin or one of his high-ranking officials say that ukraine is a neo-nazi state, that they are committing genocide

against russians there, and then they pick it up, and it is somewhat different from the russian-friendly media from the direct strengthening of bots, which we have seen in the past and it is much more difficult for everyone to fight. but again, it is impossible because there is a ukrainian narrative about the protection of freedoms and the protection of democracy, and i believe that he will win in this case, in particular, and because there is an opening intelligence investigation based on open sources that show that in fact there is no genocide of russians, often when russia says that ukrainians are shelling their citizens, we can prove that in fact it is russia that organizes these shellings and attacks with false flags, and this is a peculiarity of this highly digitalized war that is constantly documented by civilians and soldiers, we can monitor events in real time and disprove false information to counter russian propaganda not long before the full-scale invasion in ukraine

they closed down pro-russian tv channels, now they are trying to reduce the influence of russian propaganda through the orthodox church, some say that this is the next freedom of speech, freedom of religion where is this balance between countering propaganda and democracy, i think that often when people look at events that ukraine used to counter disinformation or russian cultural influence, they forget that ukraine is at war, and therefore i believe that if these measures are taken in the context of war, they are justified at the same time. i hope that when ukraine wins, some of these restrictions will be lifted, not in order to allow russian influence to return into the country but realizing that this cannot be a permanent phenomenon in a democracy during war , it is accepted but it will be necessary to review some of these restrictions in the future when

ukraine will have protected borders and return sovereignty, but these problems are also a threat to democracy and in peacetime they precede war, for example, there is evidence of russian influence on the presidential elections in the united states, you can see the influence of russian bot farms on social networks , propaganda on television, is it justified to impose certain restrictions against this nation, we definitely need to fight against foreign disinformation, interference in elections, etc., but we need to be careful with how we do it, because, as i said, now we often see propaganda being laundered for example, through the show yes caracalson or sites like zone plays, such restrictions can mean suppression of freedom of speech and many americans will not like it, i do not think that the government should do this instead. i think people should be told about where these narratives come from and who they serve putin or its oligarchs in other countries have the false impression that the fight against information means suppression of freedom of speech

, this is not always true. in fact , the research i conducted in central and eastern europe shows that countries which are most successful in fighting disinformation often invest in the education of their citizens and this is what, in my opinion, should be the basis of any anti -disinformation program along with the regulation of how social networks work and what advertising can be bought during political races and we continue with on other topics, i apologize at the beginning of the full-scale aggression of russia , the journalist petro shevchenko went to the front and

became a mortarman, he was sent to the donetsk direction, where some of the hottest battles are now taking place. pavlo spent seven months on at the front and you will see the media family for the first time at the end of 2022 about life on the front lines, he told ani kosyuchenko and pavlo suhodolsky for bucha for irpin for gostomel for vorzel a cozy evening in the family circle just two months ago, 37-year-old petr shevchenko seemed like a distant dream, this is mine my brother is even older and this is my sister and this is me. this is my mother and this is kotyk. he was a journalist before the full-scale

russian aggression . he worked in a financial publication until february 24th. once there they let us shoot with a machine gun. petro and his family live in the town of vorzel, kyiv region, which has been under russian occupation for more than a month since march 2022. he managed to get his wife and five-year-old daughter out of danger the day before the invasion , the family first went to ivano-frankivsk from there my husband sent his relatives to italy and went to the military commissariat himself. i realized that i wanted to join the army because well , i was angry and it was unpleasant for me that i lived, in principle, a very comfortable life in a comfortable small town, not zero everything i was satisfied with my favorite job there and so on. so here some people come, uh, mad, people start coming there to drive me out of my house and of course it was a certain

such, i guess, subjective motivation, of course everything would have been if so, well, very quickly emotions overwhelmed me very much, i called my editor-in-chief at work and said that anyway i’m not going to war, well, i expected to financially support my family from my own savings and was sincerely surprised when i found out that the soldiers of the armed forces of ukraine receive a salary. i went there only to protect my country, my country, my family , and i didn't even think about what was there. they have to pay a salary, and i think there are a lot of people there among mine, well, there were many people there near me there are some it people who earned a couple of thousand dollars a month there. they were also there. that is, we are the people in the first place. of course, this is the motivation of the people, this is a deep understanding of what you are doing. what are you protecting

your country from, uh, really some crazy people who decided it passport panel this it is not normal in the 21st century to attack another country to kill people to vote at first peter hoped that he would be appointed to the kyiv direction and he would be able to literally defend his own home but the military committee decided otherwise and this is how peter's journey to the donbas began. a small unit, my position is called chief sergeant, mortar commander , shot calculation, he mastered the craft of a mortarman, petro

is already on the battlefield together with other volunteers , he says that the motivation and pace of the war were so tall people who were learning literally on the go, at first they said that we were the living dead, and literally three months had passed there, maybe they were intercepting on the radio so that they would say among themselves that the anatolian troops had probably arrived because they were hitting very precisely at the positions, and then it was just like that so to speak, sweaty conditions filled the movement , constant shelling and sleepless nights . petro says there is no time to be sad at the front. day something you you can send i'm alive and there were moments when you, for example, go and understand

that i don't know only there it's just fate yes there you either choose now or you don't die if the shooting range you understand it just comes some kind of acceptance that you can die and it can happen now or a little later, but after 5 minutes , that's just what you're going through. it's in avdiiv the direction was on the girl at that time. it was one of the hot spots . well, in principle, she remains now. they constantly want to take an audio car for them. it’s going well. it’s fixed. how was it

? well, with bahmut, how about this car? they’re already trying to take it first. last year and well, they really don’t work out in november. last year, after seven months at the front, petro returned home for a long vacation and finally met his family . he needed a beard. kateryna, petro’s wife, says when she found out that her husband was returning immediately i started packing my bags to go home. well, i just knew for sure that i would never miss the 5th for vacation, er, i even changed tickets there, and i didn't even wait for the documents , because we waited for the documents for seven months, er , the right to live there

for a year, and she stayed in line there. i just spat, took the tickets, and we flew home . five-year-old daughter nadia says kateryna became more serious because of the war. she missed her dad and wrote letters to him . year-old taras went to the front in december i went to war to protect my family, children, and ukraine. i enlisted at the beginning of the war, too, but he was called up. it was only now. he called me then, on february 24, three o'clock in the morning, and said there, peter, the war had begun. well, we met once when he was coming and we

my mother was just there and we were there together, the three of us, we could literally meet there for a day . peter volunteers for his brother, collects money and buys necessary equipment for the front, such as drones. the husband does not know how long the vacation will last, but he is happy to be able to return to family and favorite profession about his military memories petro has already started writing a book for his services to the homeland on august 24 he was awarded the order of courage of the third degree here anna kostyuchenko pavel sukhodolskyi for the voice of america from the kyiv region and finally we talk about universities ropes which accept ukrainian students according to a simplified procedure in at rankovera colleges , there are discounts for tuition fees for ukrainian immigrants, and

the volunteer organization of ukrainians helps students with their documents khrystyna shevchenko knows more about emigrants. 18-year-old rostyslav chechyn came to vancouver from kherson. he is going to enter the canadian college of technology and business in the spring at the department of interactive design. the guy says that his mustache made concessions to him because he is from ukraine. in general , international students need to pass is an international language test , but they offered me that if i pass their english test based on the university level, they will allow me to study in slavs, they agreed to change the payment process there the payment is every three months, they offered me to split the tuition amount into 12 months, so that i should pay that every month, because the funds are not very large, and i cannot pay at one time for four thousand

. sofia, an 18-year-old student from ternopil , is studying here. she is good. hospitality and management, the girl, like rostyslav, came to canada on the basis of the canadian-ukrainian emergency travel permit, which was introduced in ukraine for ukrainian refugees after the russian invasion. ukrainians, i pay e-e for education as canadians pay and not as international students pay, i.e. instead of almost 20 thousand dollars , sofia pays about 6,000, also the girl does not have to pay for medical insurance to find out about this opportunity applicants and students from ukraine are helped by the educational consulting organization solovei global education, which was founded by ukrainian -canadian emigrants, the volunteers of the project have been engaged in consulting applicants who want to enter universities

in canada and the world after russian for 12 years. the organization does all this on a volunteer basis, so the organization helped rostislav and sofia choose educational institutions and submit all the necessary documents, and of course, the war interrupted the plans to enter ukrainian higher education institutions, and these are usually confused teenagers who came to another country and where they stayed at home, whose friends stayed at home, their dreams about where they planned to study in ukraine, and we are very glad that we had such an opportunity to help such schoolchildren and not just provide free on the basis of consultations to select a program and also to look for opportunities for cheap options for education, the british columbia region with its center in vancouver adopted a recommendation to equalize tuition fees for

ukrainian students to the level of canadian students , that is, without the inflated price that all other international students pay prospects in canada miss ukraine, it is difficult, first of all, it is another country , then, first of all, it is a waste of language, all people speak another language, it is difficult, it is difficult to find someone who knows how to communicate with you in your native language so far i haven't found anyone and i don't have time at all i work i study mostly in ukraine i miss the fact that i didn't have time to finish graduation for the opportunity to say goodbye to all my friends for a normal graduation from school in the summer what i want for myself planned after leaving

school, well, i just miss my dad, according to the ministry of education, as of september 1 , more than 600,000 schoolchildren began studying in educational institutions outside ukraine khrystyna shevchenko dmytro savchuk vancouver for voice of america, download the voice of america mobile application, the application allows you to automatically bypass blocking thanks to the built-in vpn service, read the news, watch informative programs and videos, as well as listen to podcasts of the ukrainian voice of america service, and this is how we say goodbye. thank you for being with us throughout the broadcast. good night and

good morning . until we meet , we are looking for three missing children from the vlasov family. we are talking about two brothers, dmytro and artem, and their sister, sofia . their aunt told me about the disappearance of the children. she is in the photo with her children, mrs. olena has been living in spain for 10 years, but regularly maintains contact with her brother and nephews, the woman said that her relatives lived in the city of mariupol in a nine-story building at 61 kurchatova street and last contacted her during the day before the start of a full-scale war, we talked and everything