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[000:00:00;00] maybe someone took something wrong that everything related to the country's budget has decreased, it should be sacred in every country , no matter how anti-corruption we are. for example, if we are talking about sweden, which has 200 years of experience there, every penny is used through a card. thank god that now there is an opportunity because, for example, after the status of a people's deputy there, it was very difficult for me to open a card in any bank, because this requires a double check, moreover, everyone who has a surname in the family is there, even the father's father, who is not with us lives a lot of years, but what am i leading to? when we start to show what is earned, how we spend, and now there are a lot of people. i count conscious, adequate people who are in the armed forces, who help the armed forces, there are no other categories of people in ukraine, well , at least there are none that is, we have to understand that we have to show transparency in the use of funds and partners expect that the funds they receive, including those that form the budget from the taxes of ukrainians, this is
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one basket of the budget. it must be very clear what these funds are used for, because i know that now there are communities and even today i had a call from one head of the community that there is a problem that, for example, the funds are there from now . well, it happened because of the war. if lviv polytechnic was once number one in the field of personal income tax, now it is the 24th brigade, the 80th brigade that is, it is our military armed forces of ukraine that have a salary, it is a deduction, and it turns out that in the lviv region there is a system where one community deducts from all trio deductions. and now we know that all territorial ones are also on the front line and this is a shock. why, because in fact it should be even, because the community is conditionally located in another district, there are seven districts of the lviv region, and 43 communities are large . well, they have to gather their soldiers , that is, each of us has a brother or son-in-law from the family there is there anyone else who went to the army? and it is necessary to understand
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that these funds should fall on the shoulders, according to their wages, should remain in those communities. i think that there should be a review of all this because it turns out that it is very unfair that during the war they still feel very strongly people who are here they remain, it is injustice to something, so it is the failure to make some decisions that are correct, or they see this lack of transparency, and as you have seen, scandals from time to time arrange their places , there is a return to, let’s say, to some uh-uh law that it can’t be done like that, but here it must be very fast reaction because we have time, we talked to you at the beginning that time is limited in all this and correcting mistakes can cost lives today and in this context, i would really like the government to review certain things, for example, underpayment budget, because we understand what fills the budget, what what, on the other hand, to understand what war is, to understand that someone who tries to live here, pay taxes and work, sometimes breaking even without receiving even an income
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of some element-profit, or rather, that is, some kind of income that simply covers these expenses then in that context it is necessary to consider very clearly because i believe that there are these fronts and fronts that relate to the filling of the economy by ukrainians who live here and the work of businesses, this is just as key because calculating will it give us partners will give that amount or not, it is very difficult , although even ours , even this work in the framework of the search for reparations , the return of the funds of the oligarchs who destroyed ukraine to ukraine. languages that know the legislation, you correctly note that each country has its own legislative system and it will require different approaches, that is, there will not be a unified system here, but at least it will be fixed. no one will do this work for us except us ukrainians who are interested in first of all, they promised to talk to you about the international issue, but i got a little sidetracked by our medical problems, because the ukrainian stories and, so to speak, the american
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auditors , how serious will this story be? in general, what do audits of a similar plan look like, and look, i think that they clearly understand the funds that enter the country and how they are used, there is a system, there is a law, i can boast of my law, which adopted our european integration committee of the 8th convocation is a law on cross-border inter-regional cooperation where the funds of international technical assistance and international aid have a clear system of how they are distributed and what they were good for these systems and this law because we saw from the semi-financing conditional , for example, the state a country that can co-finance certain projects, and on the other hand, how these funds are used , and they are, well, they are interesting because they are transparent and it is very difficult to apply systems to them in any other way or habit
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use they didn’t work or then simply no one took advantage and they were surprised that very often they were able to use such funds why because in fact they were so transparent and how complicated the reporting system was that someone just realized that as they say elementary nothing will happen here in terms of involvement, that's why we're not interested because we have to report for it , that's why this audit is good, because in fact it's everyone's task. and it seems to me that the system in ukraine is not necessary come up with some bodies, there are a lot of bodies, and the special anti-corruption prosecutor's office and others that should work. i think that we even came up with too many bodies that were controlling, now they should just include this one to work. and i even saw the statement of the vice-prime minister for euro-atlantic integration, european integration about the fact that before this there is attention that the head will be changed , let there be a change of heads let them perform their functions and we must understand that these structures that are controlling have their own set
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of tasks and must perform, we always said that there should be trust in law enforcement agencies that follow the law and conduct their work qualitatively, because in fact each of us has to do this job well and the law is the same for everyone and we need to get used to it regardless of who is in power, who belongs to whom, who is friends with whom who is who, who is the best friend, or is there another way, the law is one for everyone , in wartime, the laws of war require a completely different system of such scrupulous execution of these laws that everyone understands and there is trust , trust in the country and effective implementation of this of the audit will guarantee us further cooperation, help to our victory, and further support in which we will still have a lot of homework and no one has canceled it, that is, in fact, now we understand by inertia what we have to run towards. but further we understand because
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it is very important, everyone asks and says what will happen after the victory. we cannot bring back what happened and it will not be the way it was. it will never be the way it was . in fact, too much has been paid. we even say that in ukraine there is a position or a place. changes a person, and that is, the earth changes even those who come here and he realizes his worthlessness or, on the contrary , becomes something extraordinary there, that is the situation today, uh , we have a system of uh, those checks, you should be happy and say that these auditors are paying attention to you this is your help to get help again, and not to look at it as someone who wants to check and not give us something , that is, we need to change the course, the point of view that this is bad, no, this is good, it will limit someone in some way, some kind of kleptocritical story, or stop it what could hinder us in in the future, it came from our friend, it is about boris johnson's ukraine, he will meet with republicans in washington to encourage them to continue supporting ukraine, the former
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british prime minister will have a corresponding meeting with american legislators and will speak before the private otaka republican club, that is the story, so to speak, there are discussions, that is if johnson is going to convince a part of the republicans, that is, we understand that this is really powerful lobbying, so this is a necessary story, but doubts may appear, that is i have certain circles that can say what. well, they can use certain scandals that happen in our country in a negative way . i always said that there is a lot there, even nato parliamentary assemblies, that are happening outside of official things, for sure what is official boris jones could not say when he was prime minister - as a minister, now he can do it more, i once had the opportunity to be in such a republican club, this is when breakfasts take place, and actually this breakfast, which was in the 18th year, was already under the leadership
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of the republican president trump at that time, and we met in this club. he is in washington, so you understand . a democrat can't enter this club, just like a republican can't enter a democrat's club. that is, there are two different clubs , which is a big thing. where can you come there ? there is also food and books and they negotiated. this is a very interesting thing because it is like this. you know how to go to someone 's house. when you are allowed to enter this house, it means that you have some kind of trust, that is, i think that the system that god chooses today to advocate for our country it is very good that we talked with you at the beginning these are the different fronts they are the formal situation in the system of their colors their symbols eh this is interesting i was not in the club of eh democrats but in the club of republicans it was several floors where i think i hope at some stage its british eh such outrageousness will help we still want to get what we want as a country , you know what i remembered when boris johnson became the prime minister of great britain , many people spent well, i don't know how
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accurate but there were parallels at the expense of his such an image and what is that which is similar to donald trump has a similar hairstyle in the plan, maybe some slogans or mannerisms. i don't know what was meant, but maybe that's what is being calculated, because really, there is a certain wing among the republicans that doubts a little more than others , for example, in some moments regarding ukraine , and maybe just johnson well, because he may seem mentally closer to them, because it is trump who will convince them. well, let's hope. well , if we already mentioned johnson before that, why not also mention bragg, so exactly two years ago, this event took place, well, with certain as a result, at first, everyone was extremely negative, so to speak, that britain left the european community, on the other hand, we understand that great britain received
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certain free trumps, so to speak. to celebrate the exit of great britain from the european union, a referendum on this issue was held back in 2016, but the path to the realization of the will of the british people was delayed for three and a half years, what will happen to the british economy, this the question most worried those who followed the unprecedented historical experiment. three years after brexit, the kingdom's economy is in a frankly bad state, inflation is hitting records , business activity is decreasing, and various goods disappear from the store once in a while. however, the purity of the experiment was violated by the coronavirus pandemic and russian aggression against ukraine and it is difficult to say what exactly became the main cause of the economic troubles, and the obvious negative consequence of brexit is the centrifugal processes
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within britain itself, scotland where the majority voted against leaving the eu, the demand for a new referendum on independence is getting louder, and the situation around northern ireland remains uncertain , the part of the kingdom where the customs rules of the european union continue to apply, prime minister boris johnson, who was perhaps the most vocal supporter of britain's exit from the eu, left after a series of scandals in his resignation his next statement and thoughts allows for a review of the decision i voted for brexit i believe in brexit i know that brexit can bring and already brings huge benefits and opportunities for the country, britain can now have proper control over our borders and freely conclude trade agreements with the economies of the world. which are developing the fastest in the eu , british problems are observed with sarcasm . no, we have changed europe, it is no longer what it was 5 years ago, it is more conscious and sovereign, it
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has become stronger, we are convinced that all those gossipers who said that brexit was only at the beginning of the collapse of the eu , they say that other countries will also leave, they were mistaken , this indicates that our democratic model works and our multilateralism is effective. the international arena , as evidenced by the support of ukraine, for example , thanks to brexit, the kingdom now does not need to coordinate sanctions packages against russia and with putin's friend viktor orbán, so if we talk about orbán , we can't help but mention neighboring austria . so, the collective in quotation marks appeared, of course , i'm ironic about the austro-hungarian decision not to supply us with weapons, so the minister of defense
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of hungary and the minister of defense of austria announced the same. in our studio, oksana evrenets, a professor at the national university of lviv polytechnic, ex-head of the ukrainian delegation in the nato parliamentary assembly in 18-19 years , a member of the national interests protection network ants well, we join our on the air now oleksandra kraieva, expert of the council of foreign policy, ukrainian prism, glory to ukraine, oleksandr, we congratulate you as a hero, glory, congratulations, well, we can't, we can't, we're already talking about britain, we're talking about the great international community, because the great international community - this is not about abstract theories, but about very concrete decisions, in particular about tanks, airplanes , etc. maybe, so to speak, boris johnson finally said what, so to speak, in quotation marks, putin's success in negotiations, any incomprehensible
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situation, according to johnson, what does putin say er promises to use an unauthorized missile, but if er, to remember johnson’s words verbatim, putin putin told him you will suffer, but not for long. so to speak, for one minute. well, i’m probolizing the sand , putin’s sprinkler, the spokesman denied the whole thing 10 times, saying that this is a lie lie lie lie untrue this has never happened mr. oleksandr well actually the situation is quite comical with how russia is reacting to it because if we look at how the russians reacted to it at those moments when the british, first of all, it was always the british who exposed the true methods of their diplomacy, the true methods of their highest level of communication, it was always exactly such words, exactly such an approach, exactly such threats , i.e. russia is unchanged in this respect but russia is unchanged not only in terms of threats, russia is unchanged and in terms of response, if we recall that
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britain should once again return to the situation around sozberig, when literally several subjects of his majesty tried to poison, some of them died and in fact the situation was catastrophic, this is this a direct threat to the national security of britain and what we see later, we see that russia even at this moment threatened the british that any disclosure of information also provokes the launch of one or two missiles, therefore, in fact , the russians do not change and you know them like that , the infantile answer that no no no it is not us it has never been washed, it also does not change at all, which basically tells us about the absolute degradation of russian diplomacy as such uhu, well, on the other hand, we understand that america also has something to answer, yes, the head of the pentagon said that if north korea too aggressive or active, the united states deploys both conventional and non-conventional weapons and even called nuclear
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weapons tools, so to speak, we understand that north korea is now not just a satellite in the military plan of the russian federation. we understand it, and accordingly it is now supplying the russians with heavy and light weapons, and it is possible that there is some smuggling, some smuggling is going from china through the dprk, the dprk plays the role of such a large international political structure it is impossible to directly help russia, but in china there is the dprk, the dprk is internationally recognized as a ally of the dprk and a country that is already under all possible sanctions, and it is in principle impossible from an international legal point of view to put more pressure on the dprk, and that is why we understand that china , with the help of north korea, can by all available measures to give the russians the necessary equipment, the necessary weapons
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, the necessary products that they cannot provide directly to the russians due to the threat of american sanctions. of course, this is actively used not only at the official level. we we also know that the adventurer wagner has a lot of weapons, there were even rumors, and even airplanes, even old tanks, he also ordered from north korea, that is, in fact, the situation is really as you say, but you have to understand that north korea is not for a year will give give give give and will constantly produce new things, in fact even if china tries to do something through north korea , the potential of this small state is still very limited, and considering the fact that its leaders are still convinced that any day a war with south korea can really happen any day, they will not be ready
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to give the wagnerites and the russians a lot in general, and it is obvious. it has been almost several months now, there is less and less information about new deliveries, so in fact even this firefighter in russia will begin to wait, if it is about china, then because of the nato secretary general and hans stoltenberg during during his visit to japan, he stated that china is closely monitoring the war of the russian federation against ukraine, and this is not just a european crisis, a challenge to the international order. beijing is watching carefully and is learning lessons that may affect its future decision. sometimes the probability of a conflict with china through taiwan in the congress, for example, is considered quite high, so what lessons are we talking about here if we still understand the question and ivaniv
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is really hanging in the air, but from the fact that the states are doing now, from the fact that, in general, the united west responds to the aggression of the russian federation and to provocations from north korea, it becomes obvious that the west is beginning to develop tougher and better tools. that is, we see that this is not the reaction of the 14th year work is fine with the sanctions regime well, at least it is moving, at least there are countries that are ready to sell it to the end, we see the adaptation of nato doctrines to the changing security situation. that is, we saw the madrid summit. we saw an increase the number of contingents both quantitatively and qualitatively on the eastern flank of nato. we have seen the formation of new alliances in the south china sea in general in the region of southeast asia, that is , china understands that, relatively speaking, after february 24, no one will give taiwan to him, and even if he tries to take
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it away with weapons in hand. it will be a very difficult and tiring war. relatively speaking, russia has become one big geopolitical experiment for china, which was primarily aimed at understanding how exactly it will react to the attempt of any country to change the borders of its small democratic neighbor, and obviously china draws that conclusion despite the aggressive rhetoric , regardless of the statements that they will take taiwan in this decade, we still see a fairly balanced i would say in some respects even cautious policy of beijing regarding this island, well already on the other hand, we understand that the tension around taiwan is, in particular, so to speak, sometimes very tough , china's policy. it can do something to increase the focus of the west's attention on the main
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, key issue for us, our security our survival under the conditions of, well, boundless russian aggression against us. well, accordingly, ms. oksano, how is it possible that we should somehow involve china now or, on the contrary , should we build our fundamentally different policy regarding the same east? yes, it is possible with the united states, it is possible with the european union, and see unequivocally, we must act exclusively in our national interests, if there is an idea that china is eternal and this is the art of war, then ukraine must have its own art of victory and in the context of what will be in our national interests, and it seems to me that the government is trying to balance all that, so it's not right...china is trying to help and is generally afraid and avoids the system. what i said, my colleague, is publicly some way to cooperate with russia, but it still exists and we understand it very well. taiwan is so small even through there, there is a network of organizations, an event of national interests, an advance already there, he knows 5 or 6 million has transferred to ukraine various
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aid in the form of systems there, as far as support is concerned, now it is generators of other things that are very necessary, medicines in medicine. why are they are very aware of the fact that there is a threat to them, as well as to those territories on which they may have their own separate conflict, of course i will tell you honestly if someone says that we really wanted the war in ukraine to end as soon as possible with the victory of ukraine and we thought about reconstruction, but we are very well aware that what has started now is directly or indirectly involved in almost all subjects of world politics . it seems to me that there are no countries that could stand as an island if we once worried and said that this is ukraine and tried to tell everyone about it now everyone knows who ukraine is and where it is located. and that it is definitely not russia . and that it is an aggressor. that is, we understand all this perfectly, but we understand those
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stronger players, such as china, who have their own policies and certain visions. i am very happy when we we see the statement of the new victory of the united states with china, that is, when they reduce some kind of tension between the two of them and how much it can be. we also saw the trips on this strip, what they looked like. that is, we understand the demonstration of strength by strong countries , but ukraine is also on the world map deserves special attention, a separate position from the point of view that not everyone can act the way ukrainians act and today in ukraine it means brave, it means someone who is able to defend himself and someone who believes in victory and in what he does. i think that we have in this context, we need to look for our own interests , be adults, make decisions only that will benefit our national interests, sometimes it is loud to say nothing, sometimes it is quiet, but very often it is important for us to remember
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that we should consult to provoke not what it's just that we have such moments when even when we make unexpected statements in our country, it is very important that i still quietly coordinate them with those on whom we depend for further great help and support. in this period of time when we really need it, then we work naturally well, we understand that and these countries that are making decisions today must always maintain these friendly relations with them and so that a vacuum does not appear, therefore , all the forces must be used for this, all the people who can help in this context, because in reality uh, we very often took things childishly and believed that someone owed us something, so no, everyone has his own uh, let's say, we have our current problems, we have our own citizens, there are regular or special elections, and every country lives with its national interests. and in this ukraine should enter the configuration as a very desirable and for the future business partner opportunities
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for investments and to improve the economy of other countries, thank you ms. oksana well, in the meantime , contact us oleksandr karaev, expert of the council of foreign aviation, ukrainian prisma and i wanted to give a few statistics, for russia, imports significantly increased by half in 2022, and most of all, of course, from china, the value of chip imports increased from one and 8 billion in january -september 21 to almost two and a half billion in the same period last year russia also imported drones and components, this was reported by elina rybakova, an economist at the institute of international finance , forbes writes about this. well, the support of china and hong kong is indicative in terms of the cost of supplies and the number of transactions, the export of chips to
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in russia, other countries such as the united states, germany , and great britain have reduced their spending. well, here is the question, mr. oleksandr. to clearly define our position because we need to work with china as cautiously as possible at the moment, it's great for us the last 5 years in africa have shown us great it's shown the last two years in latin america and to in the decade of chinese work in southeast asia, it is necessary to clearly distinguish between china those areas where we are ready to work with him and those areas where we are not ready to work with him, and this also applies to our cooperation with our other allies , primarily the united states. we must clearly show them how we see this cooperation with china, how we are ready to plan it together with them , why precisely in this formulation we need to understand that the world is going one way or another, and
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some of my colleagues will say that it has already reached a state of a new cold war between beijing and washington, and therefore, one way or another, sooner or later the question of camp will arise about who is related to whom and you will be related, and then the question of who with whom how much and i cooperated cooperated and will cooperate. that is, we see that the americans, for example, in china does not break economic relations, but at the same time, politically, we see mutual provocations , militarily, we see mutual build-up , preparation for the great war, geopolitically, from the point of view of ideology, from the point of view of positioning, they are already in our we are in a state of cold conflict, so we need to decide economically. okay, we cooperate with china in these areas, because here we do not replace each other politically . we have a kind of neutrality . how do we transfer such help from china, we need to be together with the americans, it is precisely the americans who are doing this with threats
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of sanctions and constant political and economic bargaining with china, and it is they who turn china away from such help from russia and therefore only through cooperation with the states we will be able to stop such help thank you mr. oleksandr or a sponsor of terrorism was decided very quickly expert of the council of foreign policy ukrainian prizma worked in the studio oksana yurynets professor of cond at the national university of lviv polytechnic as the head of the ukrainian delegation in the parliamentary of the nato assembly in 18-19 years, a member of the national interests network of ants well , my colleagues and i remind you that your best investment is your own security - this is help to our to the armed forces, i am iryna koval, mother, wife, host of the espresso tv channel, i am also a volunteer, our soldiers at the front need a lot of things every day, and that is why part of my life today
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is help to the armed forces of ukraine, and i am very grateful to my colleagues for supporting me in this, the war caught me at home in irpen, the alarming suitcase was packed, but it did not reduce the excitement, explosions every minute , the gostomel airfield is on fire, and i have a cold basement in my window, then i left irpen under shelling for a month, after being abandoned by my relatives, and in the end, i i ended up in lviv, returned to the airwaves and started volunteering together with my colleagues. we help our soldiers for a part of life. we
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