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close to such by countries such as mongolia, algeria and zambia, what does this mean, we say in svoboda life , the ukrainian army will receive main battle western tanks in the coming months, they will give ukraine has three key advantages in the war, about this in a column for bloomberg, the retired admiral of the us navy, the former commander of nato's joint forces in europe james tauridis wrote , the first advantage is a powerful signal of transatlantic solidarity with ukraine , which putin did not count on, the second advantage is that tanks provide infantry support, the third advantage, as stavridis writes, tanks and armored personnel carriers can be used to strike russian front lines with tanks ukrainian troops could break through the positions of russian forces and go to the coast of the black sea, but now the question arises whether the western tanks will arrive before russia starts another offensive in this broadcast last friday

, the secretary of the national security and defense council oleksiy danilov said that russia can start a new large-scale offensive in donetsk and luhansk regions by february 24 of this year in less than a month, american abrams tanks as part of military aid from the united states will reach ukraine before the end of the 23rd or already in the 24th year , british defense minister ben wallace said for the washington post literally yesterday that the tank , like london, promises to hand over to ukraine, and this is a challenge 2 will be delivered to kyiv by the beginning of summer, germany, spain, poland, finland, the netherlands, norway agreed to hand over german leopard tanks to ukraine, but it will not happen tomorrow, for example , german defense minister boris pistorius said that berlin will hand over from kyiv leopards until the end of march. if we talk about the number of tanks that kyiv hopes to receive, then, so to speak , ukraine will receive up to 140 tanks

. updated in the first wave of contributions, the armed forces of ukraine receive from 120 to 140 units of modern tanks of western models , these are leopard-2 challenger, two m1 abrams, and we are very much counting on the stork whether the western tanks will make it to the next russian offensive and how they are able to turn the tide of the war, that's what we're talking about let's talk now, the chief editor of the defense express military portal, oleg katko, olezhe, joins the broadcast . my greetings. good day. thank you for the invitation. thank you for joining. calculated that officially the west will transfer, including the usa

, is going to transfer to ukraine 321 tanks tanks - this is definitely an advantage for the ukrainian army but now it looks like the transfer may take months without tanks, or how to understand it? well, obviously, because taking the time frame that the russian offensive is possible and the political offensive of the russian federation will begin in february, and just training according to western specialists tankists even experienced ukrainian tankers will last well, on average, they believe that the term is 8 weeks, that is, two months, and because this is already the shortest course possible, because the general standard course is now 5.5 months, in order to make a soldier a tanker, and for which, well a tank is already a common thing, and that's why the course has even been reduced by more than half, that is, to two months.

defense of great britain regarding the handover either in april or in may or in june, then it is about the fact that, most likely , not only tankers will be trained, but general training will be carried out. that is, the fact is that great britain announced the handover and not only the challenges of the second, there we are talking about a hundred bti, there is a set of artillery , which is measured up to 31 as. that is, a full-fledged self-propelled system, and most likely a corner of great britain will undergo full training weapons. in fact, this means the preparation of such a unit in great britain as a mechanized brigade , and this is an extremely positive thing. it is possible , even this is a more effective solution than preparing there in two weeks. a tank or mechanized brigade where they have to fight and interact with soviet machines like

64 or t-72 and bmp-1 bmp-2, that is, such a conceptual complex is not the approach of great britain, perhaps it is really better than more fast scenarios regarding the leopards, yes, the average terms are already named there, the end of march. that is, again, these are the terms of the transfer of these machines by machines and crews. and it must be understood that after the equipment arrives in ukraine, the units that will operate will also have to complete a full transition er, well, combat coordination . that is, it is also a procedure, it is also training, which is already taken into account in ukraine as part of, for example , the entire brigade there, and it is also time, that is, that is why such details as you are not just what was announced about the transfer must be understood that and this is a certain period of time from their actual arrival on the battlefield in ukraine, this is true , the devil hides in the details on the one hand for ukrainian diplomats, these agreements are

probably a victory, not probably, but this is obviously a victory, but if we talk about practical application tanks, after all , timing matters, it won't happen quickly, well, as we just showed, the minister of foreign affairs dmytro kuleba said that in the first wave, ukraine can count on a minimum of 120 tanks, a maximum of 140 tell me, where are these tanks most needed now, and should they appear so first of all, well, look, that is, they are obviously needed in the armed forces of ukraine, but it just seems to me that such things as the mikulitsy tanks will appear in what quantity, on which part of the front they have to be a surprise for the enemy and not an announcement. sorry, i understood you well. recently, the investigator khristos groziv and other military experts and more precisely international journalists there, referring to sources in the kremlin, talked about preparations for a protracted war and called the terms 2-3

years and are machines such as tanks able to destroy this strategy or are they able in principle to break the hit of war when we talk about the defense of equipment it is necessary to clearly understand that it can change something on the battlefield only when it comes to a certain number of machines, that is, we saw, for example, that even well, a small number of such systems as himers can change the situation on the battlefield in a positive way on the side of ukraine, but these machines are not on the front line . weapons are what came as a surprise to the russian army in general, they were not objectively ready for this, but they have already adapted to tanks during this time. so when we talk, for example , about 100 units of modern western tanks , this is actually the equivalent of a tank brigade, and a tank brigade can completely change the situation on the field in its framework well, let's say this section of the front, that is, not on the entire front

in general, which simply stretches for hundreds of thousands, hundreds of kilometers, if they are 1000 , yes, just on some certain section there in the area of ​​responsibility somewhere , the brigade can be used either for a breakthrough or for e. the types of techniques there are separate and in the complex of things, that is, that is why even now skype is a positive aspect such that our allies have begun to transmit complex solutions, that is, only the identified and announced packages, they are completely included, not just that it is there, for example 109 there are 50 bradley infantry fighting vehicles, there are 90 of them from sweden, or there are almost fifty mardars there. no, we are talking about the fact that these are kits that, in fact , for arming mechanized brigs there

, we add tanks to them. well, let’s say that there are tank battalions in this brigade. that is, complex things are created, and it is thanks to these complex solutions that it is possible to achieve advantages and, well, we need a new look. well, don't look for certain silver bullets, but they will hand over tanks to us tomorrow, and there will be victory, and we don't even have to to think about what is there tomorrow they will hand over the planes conditionally and the day after tomorrow the stars themselves will be loved separately there the white flag no, these are complex things that are interconnected and they are necessary in order to achieve an advantage on the battlefield and win in principle we will still talk about planes today but i still have one question about tanks , the washington post today wrote about the fact that well, first of all, the american abrams tank will be delivered no earlier than the end of the 23rd year, and secondly, it was reported that kiev

will be given a modern modification of this tank but they will not be removed from the us military stockpiles. they will be purchased separately and will be built without any secret armor. can you explain what the difference is? what does this mean? so, all that has been announced is the version of the m1a2 tank, but here you need to understand that it is just a branch, there are two branches. abrams m1a1 and m-12 is the difference well, for example, it 1 * 2, it first appeared in 92 , that is, it is fresher than the m1a1, but these two branches of tanks underwent separate modernizations. and , for example, the m1 a1 was modernized, well, the last times in 2000 in 2020 according to the principle of the m1a2, which was announced, it also underwent many modernizations, so it is difficult to say that any of them will be more modern , but it is known that these tanks will be supplied under the initiative promotion program in the country of import organizations

of ukraine in the shed of the so-called and this means that these tanks are ordered from the manufacturer in view of everything so really they have to be made or well not that from scratch because now in the usa they take older cars and simply carry out their modernization and yes of course he needs well let's say certain changes, including in relation to the reservation, in particular, the abrams tank for the city of the usa is used as special armor with elements from the oran collective, but this armor is secret and it is not intended for export in principle, even for example, for australia, a fairly close ally for the usa tanks abrams is supplied without this armor, er, that is , they simply remove it and replace it with another one, so that from the mined uranium, also with regard to ukraine , it is quite clear that it is possible that some automated control system will be removed

the troops that are assigned are excluded for the us army, that is, tanks must undergo certain changes that are related to the simple regime, which is presented not only for ukraine, but for any country that buys american equipment, including abrams , well, there will be other things the question is because the deadlines were really a little disappointing, because they expected that the tanks would be delivered to abrams a little earlier, and it is known, for example, the technological cycle of which modernizations, the throughput capacity of the general tracksystems plant, which conducts such works in the usa that is, let's say so, in any case, we are talking about the protests of one tank, not about hundreds of leopards, which , well , turned out to be much closer to the armed forces of ukraine than the abrams, thank you very much for the explanation. here in your answer, in fact, caviar is the question . why can't you just to take the american tanks that are in poland and transfer them to ukraine, they must be manufactured separately oleg katkov , the editor-in-chief of the defense express military portal

, was on radio freedom thank you for the last three days, russia has probably developed its reconnaissance attacks around the cities of pavlivka and vugledar in a more coordinated offensive this is reported by british intelligence, the russian command, according to the agency, aims to break a new axis of attack in donetsk region and distract ukrainian troops from the direction of bakhmut, where active fighting continues. ugledara and talked with the ukrainian military, his report continues . this night was calm. unfortunately, it was good for us because there was a fog so fog that you can see e-e 10-20 m foggy night - unfortunately or fortunately the military has an old man with a call sign i will ask later he is a pensioner at the observation point under the charcoal burner he is talking about his nine-year-old grandson with a smile well, but

for me he is small and even more so a grandson for me, the children are still small and they will be small because that one you have children is well that's why i have been small all my life with my son for 9 years vitaliy and vitaliy yes and if for him there would be no lunch if everyone in our family goes alone fight, then we will strangle them to the russian position at the range of a shot of this american machine gun, this machine gun repulsed the enemy, the previous few days on this part of the front, russian troops went on the offensive, machine gun cream, the enemy is acting according to the textbook, competently, the professional army is coming, that is, there is a large, powerful anti-terrorist attack, tanks are going very much, they are mators coming and we even think that it is not important . that is, the regular russian troops are coming and we knocked them out, we are holding them back today, the machine gun did not fire a single shot nearby

, waiting for a breakthrough, there is an lng bunker they want to go in in small groups because they went in first if a small group came in a small group will go more enemy power our task is not to miss small groups a camouflaged mortar can barely be seen his calculation is also waiting for the command to fire if you gain excitement then of course when he shoots as soon as you get into the rhythm they give you have a goal , and then they tell you how far to go, you will fall in the middle of the white and cold ukrainian military is counting the losses on this part of the front, there are prisoners, missing persons, however, the ukrainian military says a russian attack on this part of the front, it is currently choked after combat duty, the old man, preparing for rest, says that the enemy is waiting for the weather, they are also waiting for the ukrainian troops, you said today, unfortunately, it is fog, or maybe fortunately, yes, unfortunately or fortunately, well, unfortunately, because we have to win back our

lands, the aggressor country can sit back and lie down. and we have to take our lands, and so that this is all over, so that it is all ukraine , this was a report from the vicinity of ugledar well, in the meantime, the ministry of defense of russia declares that the russian forces captured blagodatne in donetsk region, the russian pvc wagner also announced the other day that its units allegedly took control of blagodatne. the ukrainian side is currently not commenting on this statement by moscow about the russian shelling of blagodatne in the direction of bakhmut. that the village of blagodatne was shelled. the village of blagodatne is located north of bakhmut, which , i will remind you, remains the main point on the front in the direction of bakhmut.

mercenaries of yevgena prigozhina's group continues since july 22. well, boris sachalko joins our broadcast. correspondents of the tv channel zivostvo vremya boris. my greetings. the seizure of which is reported by the russian side. good evening, colleagues, regarding bahmut, today it is known that in the city there are at least two dead , among them a child, and also at least four more wounded because the russian military artillery covered the local market, which, despite the frontline position of bahmut, the local market remained until today quite a crowded spot in bahmut, and the locals say that actually they are called exclusively such an act, an act of revenge or an act of intimidation with the side of the russian military , because there are no ukrainian positions nearby, they mention that there was several flights, and after the first break, people rushed to the opposite side , trying to hide, and it was precisely in their 14th year

that the 14-year-old boy who died tried to hide in a local kiosk and another middle-aged man didn't reach his car, so what's next to listen to what the eyewitnesses are talking about. here i am, i fell there, briefly, he came here, briefly, animals, briefly and that's it, look, look, look, what a hole, look, just excuse me well, it's very very very cruel. it's the only pharmacy that worked in our city. it's very cruel . i don't know why it's just a pharmacy . it's the only area where there was a market. where

could i even buy something? well, i don't know. why aren't there military ones, they don't exist without a sound, without anything , i'm going to the medics сейчас есть пожалуйста because a 14-year-old boy didn't even hear how this word was broken. this is a market. it is located on the outskirts of the city. in fact, literally next to it, the road passes, the last and only road, in fact, which is relatively safe to bakhmut, at least until today in bakhmut. are under the control of the ukrainian army, but under at least partial fire control of the russian

troops who are trying to bypass bakhmut from different and from different sides. and we just today tried to get to bakhmut along this third highway, in fact we arrived literally 10 minutes before the shelling of this very market in the very there is practically no place for people, the majority of people are hiding either in basements or in bomb shelters or at volunteer aid points, which are actually also located in some basements, locals say that such a chaotic and powerful barrage of bombardment. as today they have not seen and heard for a long time, the actual russian artillery today reached even those areas of the city where it had not been hit before. i ask you to listen to what the locals are saying loudly. and this is what i'm looking at, maybe wi-fi has arrived, it will calm the relatives, and it will call . they solved the situation in bakhmut by aggravating it, people from the surrounding villages and towns are trying

to leave them urgently, here we are, for example, today visited in the middle of time, until recently it was considered such a rather backward city, but here is why the number of people willing to leave has increased. in some volunteer organizations , they even arrange such dispatch centers so that people can call to take a place, reserve a place for themselves and be guaranteed to leave for sure, please listen to how it works. yes, he will write you down. well, not your person, who, that is , there is no connection to the person here. well, there is still a rewrite. and you are leaving. yes, yes, yes, we invite you even more than 7,000 people were deported not last year, but during the fall and winter, so this is far

from the first time, this is from the donetsk region, before they used to leave en masse, now they mostly leave only when something happens, yes , we plan, when the time has come, check, yes , here you have already made up your mind. well, this is for this week. this is this. yes, this is this week . these are the last days . yes, yes, especially loudly . 4 bring a friend конечно очень глоков света не воды нет нет loud is not the right word conscience itself

necessary necessary necessary fire 4 much is lying under the table a dog a sailor refers to information about the capture of blagodatny by russian troops at the moment the ukrainian headquarters and really does not comment on it officially blagodatny it is necessary the northern city of the northern college of bakhmut for sure it is known that the russian troops tried to intensify the development of the direction towards blagodatny e-e in fact immediately after the capture of soledar and the first information the first data about the capture of soledar blessed appeared on russian telegram channels and in russian public last week, but immediately after that there was information that the russian troops were pushed back from there by the counter-successor of the ukrainian military. what is happening in blessed at the moment, i do not have accurate information, friends , the words of boris you showed very, very emotional shots from bakhmut, there are simply no words , borisachalka, the correspondent of the present time was on radio svoboda, thank you, ukraine is asking for

a fighter jet, france and poland are ready for think about it, and germany and the usa. so far, kyiv is seeking to receive modern f16 or f-15 fighters of the us air force, or their european counterparts, for example, the german tornado or the swedish green in the west. it seems that there is no unity on this issue, at least so far, the prime minister the minister of poland, mati osh muravelsky, did not rule out that his country could supply ukraine with f16 fighter jets if this decision is made in coordination with other nato countries , the head of the office of the ukrainian president called poland's position a positive signal, nothing is excluded in principle, french president manuel macron said in response to a question about the possibility of supplying fighter jets to kyiv, german chancellor olafsholz last weekend called such talks frivolous well, but here it is worth reminding that berlin's position regarding leopard tanks was also categorical, but it changed when, after

the western countries changed their positions allies and began to openly call on berlin to hand over tanks to kyiv, and the united states announced the delivery of abrams to ukraine on sunday , the american publication politico wrote that in the pentagon is in favor of sending combat aircraft to ukraine , but for now, at least publicly . convince allies to say yes instead of no pavlo klimkin joins the broadcast minister of foreign affairs of ukraine 14-19 years old my greetings, friends, i will be glad to be with you on

each other we are also glad to welcome you so what should be done to say that biden should tell me and yes or not it is a matter of time, it is not only a matter of him, although first of all his word will be decisive for the americans, the american administration depends on it, first of all, the strategic decision and assessment possible escalation, in addition to yesterday's words of biden, your american colleagues called me yesterday after they say that you are disappointed, mr. klimkin, i said yes and no, because i would like to hear that, of course, but i perfectly understand something happened with our connection i hope that a second second and we will redial it pavlo klimkin minister of foreign affairs of ukraine 14-19 years old well in ukraine how do you know and know exactly the problems with the connection and the problem with

the internet and sometimes this happens what we are forced to re-recruit and re-recruit our guests and there is also a reaction from the minister of defense of ukraine, mr. reznikov. he said about it oleksiy reznikov he said about the fact that this is a no from the united states regarding western aircraft , well now it should be understood as a refusal specifically, at this moment, but in the future, the ukrainian side hopes that this will not happen, because all the western heavy weapons that kiev expected from the western countries passed through these stages. well, i will remind you that on february 14 , the next meeting in the rammstein format was announced, and there were hopes for at least their expressed by the western media with reference to ukrainian and european officials that it is possible that the issue of fighter jets will be raised again at this meeting in the rammstein format so that it is not so possible that the westerners will not be so categorical western allies well, it is also worth reminding here that if

, after all, germany played the first violin in the matter of tanks , the united states of america will still play the first violin in the matter of fighters. well, kyiv's request to provide more modern weapons will to discuss at the level of the leaders of ukraine and the usa plans to talk without specifying . they do not specify yet. a high-ranking official from the usa writes that there have not yet been serious discussions at a high level regarding the supply of combat aircraft to ukraine , so the journalists conclude that yesterday's answer of the american president is not final . how is the issue of fighter jets progressing now? on the diplomatic front, the correspondent of radio svoboda in brussels, zoryana stepanenko , talked about this exclusively with the former secretary general of nato, who is now together with the head of the office of the ukrainian